This looks okay. Viewing video history looks a bit tedious. I really like the Nest app timeline and I’m looking for an alternative to use with wyze cams. I have Frigate set up from a few days ago and it’s solid when it comes to motion recording and playback (up to 16x speed). I just wish it had Nest style timeline. The closest I’ve seen is Scrypted NVR but I’m not ready to join an additional subscription service.
you could use a cron job or scheduled task on windows to delete any video passed a data and time you can also back them up to another server and have the same thing happen but longer but warning if you have lots of files every day with or with out backups think of your drive type and the read write degradation
You can indeed do this on any OS, but the average user doesn't know how to setup a cron job, nor what cron is. So to me a more complete system would have a simple GUI option to say when to get rid of older videos. Either by number of days old, or by how much drive space remains.
Interesting piece of software. I didn't understand what "Path to the camera stream" I have to set in the config file. I was using an Android smartphone with the app IP Camera installed on it to test this software. Thanks
Might be tricky to figure out the stream from an android app, generally commercial cams will have a stream URL or protocol you can use like RSTP or RTMP which have standard layouts where you just plug stuff in like IP and credentials
I use Nextcloud constantly. I set it up the way I want, and leave it alone other than the regular updates they push out. Jellyfin is a must have for me and my family. Navidrome for music streaming, vaultwarden for password management, and openwrt for my networking, and authentik to tie as much of it to SSO as I can.
I didn't specifically look for that so I don't know, but I know in one of their examples it showed an mjpeg option with a path that might be for usb hardware vs an IP.
There is likely a way, if you check the project page they list a variety of softwars and subtools included in the system that can be called up with the right configuration
That’s a question I can’t answer for you. It depends on what you need and want from an NVR? Object detection? Triggers recording? Great live feed but no recording? It’s all about you identifying which option I present as the best for you. I use Shinobi to record, and one that I’m about to cover for live viewing.
@AwesomeOpenSource which one you are using for live view? I have frigate at the moment for recording, but I hate the fact that I was no able to use it for just stream, I have some cams that I don't need to record, just for viewing. I am using an old installation of blueiris for viewing and I want to get out of it for good!
ZoneMinder is powerful, and a really cool project, but in my testing it was definitely all over the place with setting up my cameras, a lot of the features just wouldn't work (like audio), and recording was hit or miss. I definitely think Shinobi, Frigate, and others are a bit easier for a newb to get into. Someone with more knowledge of the IP Camera space would probably do just fine with ZoneMinder.
would you choose this or frigate if you had to? currently running frigate but its pretty heavy on cpu if you dont have a coral tpu. but viseron kinda looks a bit unpolished to me (especially the live view part of it)
I would choose Frigate over this one today, only because frigate provides the ability to auto-remove recordings after x days, which I really like as a feature.
you can use openvivo with frigate now. dont need a coral anymore. viseron is seriously lacking in the UI department. making it extremely difficult to figure out when something happened. or if anything did happen... what are you supposed to do, review all these recordings everyday??? with frigate you can sort by who was near the door, or who opened the mailbox...
From my observation with 2 cameras attached and using only the sub stream for it. The CPU and RAM usage was minimal. It didn’t seem to really make the CPU spike at all. As you add more cameras, and use the main stream vs the sub stream I expect it would increase. Thatt said you would need to configure both streams in the config separately, then only set the main stream for recording and try to only view live streaming with the sub-stream.
Shinobi has a ton more features, and IMO, is much easier to get cameras added and running on out of the gate. It does use a bit more CPU / RAM to run though.
I'd say it's extremely similar to Frigate. They both do a pretty good job with person and object detection, ay be using the same underlying libraries for that, but I don't know that for sure.
@@AwesomeOpenSource I've found Viseron easier to tune than frigate but it could just be bias as frigate was one of the first I tried during the self-hosting journey
Totally understand. If you like the rest of the app, then a request on their github page might be worthwhile. That's the great thing about Open Source, you can always ask for, and suggest improvements / changes.
Shinobi doesn't require file config editing, nor does iSpy Agent, ZoneMinder, and they are all open source as well. I think if Blue Iris works for you, then use it to it's fullest. I'm just trying to provide open source options for those who are looking.
TY for reviewing this.
My pleasure.
This looks okay. Viewing video history looks a bit tedious. I really like the Nest app timeline and I’m looking for an alternative to use with wyze cams. I have Frigate set up from a few days ago and it’s solid when it comes to motion recording and playback (up to 16x speed). I just wish it had Nest style timeline. The closest I’ve seen is Scrypted NVR but I’m not ready to join an additional subscription service.
You can always post a request for the timeline feature to the github project for Frigate. It sounds like a totally reasonable request.
you could use a cron job or scheduled task on windows to delete any video passed a data and time you can also back them up to another server and have the same thing happen but longer but warning if you have lots of files every day with or with out backups think of your drive type and the read write degradation
You can indeed do this on any OS, but the average user doesn't know how to setup a cron job, nor what cron is. So to me a more complete system would have a simple GUI option to say when to get rid of older videos. Either by number of days old, or by how much drive space remains.
Hey quick question, is there an open source(or closed) nvr that uses AI to detect what a person is doing and logs that?
I don't know. Certainly wouldn't know about closed source.
Interesting piece of software. I didn't understand what "Path to the camera stream" I have to set in the config file. I was using an Android smartphone with the app IP Camera installed on it to test this software. Thanks
Might be tricky to figure out the stream from an android app, generally commercial cams will have a stream URL or protocol you can use like RSTP or RTMP which have standard layouts where you just plug stuff in like IP and credentials
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Thank you for this video. It's a great review and walkthrough. Which OSS alternative(s) would you recommend for 2024?
I use Nextcloud constantly. I set it up the way I want, and leave it alone other than the regular updates they push out. Jellyfin is a must have for me and my family. Navidrome for music streaming, vaultwarden for password management, and openwrt for my networking, and authentik to tie as much of it to SSO as I can.
@@AwesomeOpenSource Heey thanks so much for your kind answer. Will check those out.
I saw nothing in the documentation that talked about configuring a USB camera. Does Viseron have that capability?
I didn't specifically look for that so I don't know, but I know in one of their examples it showed an mjpeg option with a path that might be for usb hardware vs an IP.
if it doesn't you might be able to do it hackily by finding a program that creates an rtsp stream from /dev/video1 or whatever...
There is likely a way, if you check the project page they list a variety of softwars and subtools included in the system that can be called up with the right configuration
but which one is the best! you keep on showing me different NVRs but which one should I get.
That’s a question I can’t answer for you. It depends on what you need and want from an NVR? Object detection? Triggers recording? Great live feed but no recording? It’s all about you identifying which option I present as the best for you. I use Shinobi to record, and one that I’m about to cover for live viewing.
@AwesomeOpenSource which one you are using for live view?
I have frigate at the moment for recording, but I hate the fact that I was no able to use it for just stream, I have some cams that I don't need to record, just for viewing.
I am using an old installation of blueiris for viewing and I want to get out of it for good!
I know I asked this question a long time ago. but I need it for recording and streaming.
Thanks for the nice video , does it have any android clients ?
Not that I know of
@@AwesomeOpenSource frigate have android client
Does viseron have a mobile/android/apple app?
Not that I'm aware of.
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My pleasure.
Cool thanks you..
Welcome!
Does it support ONVIF protocol?
It does. That's how I got it to find my cameras initially.
What do you think about Zoneminder?
ZoneMinder is powerful, and a really cool project, but in my testing it was definitely all over the place with setting up my cameras, a lot of the features just wouldn't work (like audio), and recording was hit or miss. I definitely think Shinobi, Frigate, and others are a bit easier for a newb to get into. Someone with more knowledge of the IP Camera space would probably do just fine with ZoneMinder.
@@AwesomeOpenSource Thanks for answering. I will take a look into the other projects in the future.
@@AwesomeOpenSource Offtopic
Do you have a suggestion for affordable coreboot Hardware to host opnsense on it?
would you choose this or frigate if you had to? currently running frigate but its pretty heavy on cpu if you dont have a coral tpu. but viseron kinda looks a bit unpolished to me (especially the live view part of it)
I would choose Frigate over this one today, only because frigate provides the ability to auto-remove recordings after x days, which I really like as a feature.
you can use openvivo with frigate now. dont need a coral anymore.
viseron is seriously lacking in the UI department. making it extremely difficult to figure out when something happened. or if anything did happen...
what are you supposed to do, review all these recordings everyday???
with frigate you can sort by who was near the door, or who opened the mailbox...
@@AwesomeOpenSource do you still have the same opinion today? Because I think viseron now supports the auto-remove functionality
@@swever826 haven’t tested it in a while. I need to do a 2024 round up on all these systems at some point.
@@AwesomeOpenSource That would be awesome!! Thanks for the reply
Docker only?
That is the only instruction I saw, but there may be a more manual way documented somewhere.
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Ok.
How does this compare to other apps you have tested as far as resource consumption (e.g. CPU and memory usage)?
From my observation with 2 cameras attached and using only the sub stream for it. The CPU and RAM usage was minimal. It didn’t seem to really make the CPU spike at all. As you add more cameras, and use the main stream vs the sub stream I expect it would increase. Thatt said you would need to configure both streams in the config separately, then only set the main stream for recording and try to only view live streaming with the sub-stream.
How about compared yo Shinobicctv?
Shinobi has a ton more features, and IMO, is much easier to get cameras added and running on out of the gate. It does use a bit more CPU / RAM to run though.
Better than frigate?
can achieve coral USB like results without the module using AI, and gets even better once you do loop in tools like the coral
I'd say it's extremely similar to Frigate. They both do a pretty good job with person and object detection, ay be using the same underlying libraries for that, but I don't know that for sure.
@@AwesomeOpenSource I've found Viseron easier to tune than frigate but it could just be bias as frigate was one of the first I tried during the self-hosting journey
no onvif support? thanks but no thanks
Totally understand. If you like the rest of the app, then a request on their github page might be worthwhile. That's the great thing about Open Source, you can always ask for, and suggest improvements / changes.
All these alternatives seem pretty iffy compared to Blue Iris that is simply reliable and works. No need for direct configuration file editing
Shinobi doesn't require file config editing, nor does iSpy Agent, ZoneMinder, and they are all open source as well. I think if Blue Iris works for you, then use it to it's fullest. I'm just trying to provide open source options for those who are looking.
Blue Iris is for me what is Ukraine for Vladimir Putin
First!
First indeed.