Bad Gear - Roland TB-3 - A Touchscreen TB-303 Nightmare???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- In this episode of Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools, we are going to grab a bottle of water and step onto the dancefloor with the Roland TB-3. Are touchscreens any good for raving? Will the preset nightmare ever end?
❤Thanks to Luis for the Behringer TD-3❤
![Behringer TD 3 - Unboxing, erster Test und 303 Talk [deutsch]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e31b5nFFyw4/mqdefault.jpg)
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It's fun to revisit this video two years later, knowing how integral the TB-3 has become to the jams on the show!
😀😀😀
Literally came here for the same reason... :D
Yep, every new video makes me wonder if I too need a TB-3.
@@maxjohn6012 me too 🙂
Yeah this is a piece of history now :))
Man, you are just knocking these videos out at an incredible speed given your production value
Thanks! Sleep is the enemy ;)
And he has like the best attitude also, love it
Don't forget to clap for the unsung team behind the scenes!
@@AudioPilz Sell your bed. Problem solved :)
Get more of the other people on screen! And have them talk too
This is basically a love letter to the TB-3. I hate you, but you're so wonderful.
A tale of Shakespearean proportions... 😂
As a bathroom synth I can recommend the Roland MC101, runs on batteries.
Have a nice sit/weekend.
Digital bubblebath ;)
@@AudioPilz Analogue Modeling Bubblebath
That's not what bathroom means guys
@@southpole76 whay is this, a gay club? How did I end up here?
4:18 - I'm instantly playing Tekken.
Matrix shootout scene, anyone? ;)
That jam is DOPE lol now I'm going to go make some crazy early 2000s breakbeat
@@AudioPilz Runs up wall in bullet time.
i cannot believe that you're putting out so many good videos in such a short span of time
incredible. amazing. please never stop.
Thanks!
A year later and the Roland product line still doesn't seem anywhere near exhausted! :D
I mean, you should stop at regular intervals for rest and balance but, yeah sure. 😀
Mine is definitely in the "never ever sell" category for me.
It's a keeper for me too!!!
I'm pretty sure this channel is gonna hit a million by this year
Thanks!
Even if you might not like the sound, it makes a WONDERFUL sequencer for things like modular gear. It's hard finding other sequencers where you can tie steps together to get that 303 sound.
True, great sequencer!
Or one that can do any pattern length from 1-32 steps. I have a TD-3 and TB-3 combo and I mostly use the TB-3 as the second 303 sound or for weird sounds (banks C and D are just amazing).
People who are having difficulties with the touchscreen, should try to re-calibrate it. Mine had a problem with the touchscreen from factory (I bought it brand new). A part of the screen had to be pressed damn hard to get activated. After re-calibration it works now like a charm.
..it's still digital nonsense..🤪
I’ll be the lone decenter, I love the TB-3. It’s easy to get crazy results, granted not easy to get something specific, but that’s the point. Go wild and get a wild outcome.
That's the spirit
I love mine too!
I had to read this several times before I deciphered ‘dissenter’ 😄
Man...look for the vst editors. They busts the tb3 WIDE open. Roland ABSOLUTELY dropped the ball. The TB3 has so much potential under the hood. Seriously.
Yeah, TB3 unleashed!
Can't wait to get my TB-3. Should arrive next week. My first ever hardware synth. I was so inspired by this video.
It really grew on me, one of my go to synths now
“Filthy like a remote control in a 3 star hotel room” 🤢🤣
The most germ-infested objects in the universe
You hit the nail on the head with this analysis. While it has its design flaws and limitations, I think it still makes a fantastic preset synth and is a quick and dirty way to add some great sounds to just about anything. The TB-3 is my worst piece of gear, and yet, I love it and always find use for it.
It will most probably stay in my live setup forever ;)
@@AudioPilz It cuts through the mix superbly.
Mine has just arrived, so though I should pay my respects to the video and creator who instigated the decision! :D
Nice! I was thinking about getting a secone one;)
The TB-3 is a crowd pleaser, I frequently play live EDM music for my friends an when I feel I'm losing them with fancy music ideas and advanced synthesis, I just press play on the synced TB-3 with a 4 on the floor beat and 16th note hihats and its acid party time!
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
I feel like it would be worthwhile to do a follow-up video on the TB-3! This video is almost outdated now, we know how much you love the TB-3 these days 😉
Great idea, thanks!!!
@@AudioPilz The TB-3 deserves some justice! I got mine yesterday after seeing it so much in your (recent) video's. But then we have this .. Time for some rectifications! :)
Bad Gear is my favorite Synth show! In 2007 I thought that by now (2020!) touchscreens would have completely taken over, just like Velcro did away with shoelaces. I'm using a physical keyboard right now and I still use paper for lists and calendars. And I suppose we are not quite at "Alexa- twiddle LFO, then drop the beat." Thank God. But I'll bet it's coming to a Roland near you.
Thank you so much!
More Roland stuff:
th-cam.com/video/pPUYGK80yc0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/oi5qo6NMcb0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/NgLAsMMfPIY/w-d-xo.html
Korg electribe 2 sampler. its a disaster zone. www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=104509 and this change.org www.change.org/p/please-help-make-continued-software-updates-for-the-new-electribes-a-priority-for-korg-inc its all a long and painful story, Its so so so noisy and of course if you sample you multiply the noise. The sampler i love to hate and hate to love.
i bought a tb3 last week - its awesome - i have a td3 also - they are both good but tb3 is MUCH more fun...
I own a MX-1, TR-8, System-1m and the TB-3 and it's easily the least favourite of the four to me. Still, it's fun, in some odd, quirky way. I wouldn't recommend buying it, but I also wouldn't recommend selling it ;D Some minor addenda: When in scatter mode, the y axis affects how strong the scatter is applied to the source signal, not like scatter depth more like a 'mix' control. Also when you press and hold the keyboard button and then touch any note 'field', the TB-3 enters a kind of transpose mode (keyboard button blinks) where a playing (chain of) pattern can be transposed in real-time.
Just came back to this video to rewatch your verdict after noting that you are using this little demon in what seems like literally every jam ever since.
I am actually guilty of underestimating its appeal myself as it is the only gear ever that I bought, returned and repurchased after a deep regret.
DEICIDE Yeah! *headbang*
Thanks for that pun and the video!:)
The crab dancing was wonderful.
Thanks!
Land of the fat style :)
your edit game is becoming masterful, fully expecting this channel to blow up soon, great work
Thanks! It means a lot to me!
At this point you've cover half my setup in your videos.
Great minds...
“Full on Margaret Thatcher” 🤣😂
Those were the 80s;)
Man I know you didn't like it but MT - that's a bit ruff.
I love my tb-3 now. I wasn't impressed straight away . Then I ran it stereo into the mixer and the sound really opens up , the delay/reverb FX start to make sense . The more you all hate on it now the bigger the cult following it will have in a decade or two :)
Already started hoarding them;)
So, I am right again. Roland only makes money with Legend status. They never release anything modern that's useful.
All gear is useful. The great thing is that if you don't like something you really don't have to buy it 😜
Love the TB3 and I have a TT too.
@LukeTB3 its great to play, has an awesome accent/slide/octave morph randomizer which can jam live then fall back to original seq - combined with transpose - its top!! 😜👍
That big beat track was ACE!
Thanks!
With the Easter eggs, hackability, and vast control of this unit via software, Roland continues the tradition of quietly producing what will be a sought after piece. They thought this one out... Great review, as always!
the tb3 is absolute nice, i love mine 🥰
It really grew on me!
The back-handed comment at the end is so spot on. Great video!
Thanks!
I don't know why these manufactures around this time insist upon touchpads that light up, but are dark before you touch them. It looks like you can at least have it display a keys.
Like the Kaosillator. Its just a black pad and you had better hope your fat finger lands where you want it to. WHY?!?!?! At LEAST make a lit grid line option on it or...I don't know allow you to play the thing with a MIDI controller without having to be an engineer to do it. This era of touchpad devices are like the early 90's were for menu driven LCD instruments. They haven't figured out what is REALLY intuitive. Like my Roland W-30 from 1989, its all menu page after page because they wanted it to look "Modern" and took away all the buttons.
Same crap went on with touchscreens. I am glad to see the buttons, faders, switches coming back again.
Insert younger commenters calling me old because I want a knob for every...single...option regardless if it is analog or digital. I want to perform with my gear, not program it and hit play. What then? I guess I can set an unplugged mixer next to it to play with and look cool.
Well, it looks nice in promo vids
@@AudioPilz I am applying to R&D for Roland!
Major product innovation #1: Add a "Tradeshow" preset that makes it look cool and the lights flash. It will be like "Demo Mode" on car stereos all over again!
Brian Renfro The Kaoss Pad Quad Touchscreen was perfect.
The Kaoscillator is brilliant. The clue is in the name..jus feel it, listen and touch - generate random beautiful performances. Wiggle that finger and tap.
Much better than TB3 application.
I love my TB-3. I've used it damn near every day since I bought it. Great sound, intuitive interface, perfect for techno and beyond.
It totally grew on me. Still not a big fan of the touchpad & preset interface
I too hate the touchscreen, but using it with a Midi controller as a sound module really opens it up! I'm glad I gave mine a 2nd chance, because using it this way has completely flipped my perspective on the Tb-3.
Yeah, midi controllers really opened up the Microkorg for me, as well th-cam.com/video/qOJNXbjgWHU/w-d-xo.html
I might be one of a few people who owns one and absolutely loves it. I agree it doesn't quite sound like an original or a x0xb0x even, but I've had mine for 2 1/2 years and have been able to do quite a bit with it. If you look at it as purely a 303 clone, you're going to be disappointed. However, there is a great deal of sysex based customizations that make it a very versatile piece of gear. I have that VST and I would love to see what you can do with it to learn new stuff.
Which editor are you using?
@@AudioPilz the one you shared in the video. I can't remember the name.
I love my TB-3, I use it on pretty much every track. The sequencer has a great randomisation feature on it and I can use the sequencer to sequence other synths in my set up. It’s like a modern 303 with all the FX, the sonic capabilities blow the original 303 out of the water. Incidentally I use both.
Never had the honor of playing a real 303
Dancing Thatcher plus TB3.... its new fodder for my nightmares. Another brilliant video thanks
Thanks!
I loved this synth, I can’t believe this is on here
You are talking in past tense ;)
I ended up trading it and 60$ for a Roland TD-10 drum module. I bought it for 140$ used off of letgo 2 years ago. I’m pretty sure the person I bought it from was selling it for drugs. They messaged me about 10 times to make sure I was coming to buy it. When I got his house, he looked rough like he hadn’t sleep in a few days.
We need more Behringer on this channel.
I have to talk to my lawyers about that;)
I blacked out during that filthy section and when I came to I had hacked a gibson.
That's completely natural
I had a dream where I was rollerblading and hooking up my 40 lb laptop to payphones and when I woke up the whole city was in a blackout.
Gibson's Opcodes hacked my Oberheim!
Another bad gear I purchased after watching Bad Gear. So fun to rewatch these old bad gear episodes!
Nice!!! Thanks!!!
If you happen to have one but don't use it; you can also use it as a monophonic sequencer for other synths through midi. I've been using it to sequence the System 1 and love it. It also does sound pretty good on it's own.
True! Powerful sequencer!
I like this thing for the sounds and features in a tactile form.
Same here!
AH yes, the mid 90s early 2000s period where break beats were incorporated nicely as film score, and new metal sounded badass.
Have you recently listened to Nu Metal? Limp Bizkit and stuff? 😂
That stuff is rad.
@@AudioPilz Nu metal aged pretty bad. Britney spears did better.
Great video. Watched it after your DX7 video. I have to admit though that I love my TB3. Or rather BOTH my TB3’s. They seem to be either loved or hated, but I’m definitely hanging on to my ones.
Thanks! True that!
Thank god Behringer came to the rescue and actually released a REAL 303 substitute.
Behringer has become more Roland than Roland
@@AudioPilz Oh god sooooo true!!!
More than true which is kinda sad if you think about what sort of legacy the company holds. I've said all that while awaiting the JU-06a boutique 🌝 Ahh Danny boy...
@@AudioPilz Nowadays if you want a Juno, you get a Deepmind 12 :D
As someone from 1989 I find this video extremely funny... Thank you!
Thanks for watching
This is what makes me tear my hair out with Roland. Multiple forgettable and weak emulations of their "glory years" while even Behringer are making more faithful recreations. No company is in a better position to get a genuine TB-303 into the market and it's clear as daylight that there's a demand for one. Boggles the mind.
Behringer has become more Roland than Roland
@@AudioPilz Now if Behringer would tackle cloning some of the cooler members of the GR guitar synth family :D
You’re wicked geeza 🤣🤣🤣 some of the most entertaining synth content out there
Thanks!
I was gonna get the TD3 but delivery was so delayed I ended up canceling my order and got the TB3 in stead second hand for 125e. I was also not impressed at first but after using it on one track I started using it on almost everything. It's very easy to apply it within any flavor of elecronic music.. sits nicely between the lead and the sub.
Yeah, it grew on me, as well!
I had a fit of mid-life crisis and bought almost all of the AIRA line (TB-3, TR-8, MX-1, System-1). If I rub them vigorously with a dry cloth every few days, they do a wonderful job keeping the dust under control in the studio. Beyond that, I have not found a real use for any of them (the System-1 makes a pretty decent MIDI controller though). I almost didn't buy the MC-707 because my heart had been broken so many times by new Roland gear, but I finally did and I love it. The MC-707 is technically in the AIRA series but it's a totally different animal and can do everything the other boxes can do (and lots more) without taking up the entire desk.
The MC-707 seems to be a modern classic
The problem for me is that those synths are ultra expensive VST's inside of a hardware, For the best I'll buy a small portable pc and work with free vst's that can for sure sound much better
Probably use the TB3 as an audio interface and controller for the VSTs;)
@@WHIPTY I think that's basically how everyone feels about them haha. You hit the nail right on the head
Great video covering the TB-3 and I appreciate the punchy solid base lines in the beginning of the vid.
Thanks!
Touch screen synths were the nu-metal of synth marketing, so it makes sense that Roland put it on their Aira (read: disappointing throwback). The whole design of that lineup is straight out of The Matrix, X-Files, and anything else with an X for !Xtreme! That being said. I love the Aira line for their functionality. Tried the other 303 clones, and since I've had my fill of B-ringers, the TB3 is by default my fav for workflow. A01 or A02 run through comp and any fx of choice is not just good enough but all I need. The subsequent Boss stompbox modeled sounds are great for that X-factor too.
Now do the Korg Kaossilator Pro+
The Kaossillators came up quite often recently
It you do Kaoscillator, dont forget the original portable. Still my favourite model. (really good bad gear).
Love the flashback to Future Music, a warning of the coming mee-to
Yeah, those attractive people were completely out of context ;)
I still like the TB-3 more than the TB-03 sound wise.. all of the TB-3’s parameters can be accessed with midi CC. I wholly agree about the slim sweet spot
Yeah, not really tweakable
you know you love it now... it's in every video
I certainly do!
Flexing hard with that stained S-950...
If the 3,5" disk drive could talk...
You actually made me like the TB-3 now...
Never thought it would become one of my favorite synths
I keep seeing this device show up again and again in your later videos and it always sounds great. Is it possible this is secretly good gear that you just took a while to warm up to?
It is a highly underrated, very good piece of gear
My wife bought me one for a birthday and it took about 5 years for it to grow on me, now I love using it..
@@Grant82gc That's the true spirit of the TB-303: being hated in the beginning and loved later on.
@@rorz999 I agree.
I just looove the way you approached this one.
Thanks!
Pressing like just for Flat Eric. +1
Flat Eric for president
bawa bawa, bawa bawa, babababa, bawa bawa
This guy needs to blow up. I was shocked and had to rub my eyes when I saw you only had 10k subs??? wtf why
Thanks! Had 1k a month ago;)
I want to love the TB3....Even considered buying one.... I just can't bring myself to do it. Maybe I'll just get a second Behringer TD3 instead.... They're cheaper than a used TB3 new anyway. HA!
It's a tough competition
Still seems perfect for dark clubs! Would love to see a 'good gear' special!
Yeah, great for dark environments!
Yet another bit of bad gear that I own 😂 i do like it for its ability to allow simple acid lines to be programmed very quickly.
But yes it can be quite limiting and awkward. The non 303 sounds are pretty much a waste of time too
the non 303 sounds are awersome you just need to know how to use them, I hooked a distortion pedal to the thing and it really came alive
Nah man the D bank of sound hits different, by different I mean: only when you and the homies are unbelievably high and coincidentally the speakers are on
Liked the non-303 sounds but they are not super-tweakable
I was listening to Cirrus's "Stop and Panic" just now and was reminded of this. You made a legit old-school acid track.
Thank you!!!
That CS2X is hot. The woman is too, I guess 😁
Party like it's 1999...
I have the CS1X. A few years ago, I left my fan heater on all night and I kicked it in my sleep. After becoming aWOKEn (/s), I realised that my CS1X was so hot that the entire left side of the keyboard melted and became deformed in a way that is actually pretty aesthetically pleasing. It still works too. I don't use it though because I have VSTs and Reason.
On my TB-3, half of the touchscreen simply doesn't work. That means you can't program patterns with it, which means the only way to use it is to let it generate its own random patterns.* Now THAT'S the true spirit of the 303! ;)
*It just wants some creative input and has firm boundaries, which I respect.
That's actually a feature;)
Idk if it’s Bad Gear material or not, but the Jupiter-80 was very disliked when I was more active on synth forums.
Great suggestion, THX!
Really enjoying your videos. Nice to see a new spin on synth reviews! Keep them coming!!!
Thanks!
Awesome idea with these series. The gear choice for these videos is spot on. Helps people stay away from fails and rip offs instead of being influenced by fake TH-cam reviews. Still regret spending money on fails like kaossilator pro + really hate that f-ing thing. Can be a new star of your bad gear videos actually.
Thanks! The Kaossillators are on top of my list
It's doing the opposite to me, I got the Gaia SH-01 and now I want a TB3, and I have 3 Pocket Operators and very soon the Korg DS10 lol. I like them way more than any of the multitudes of Moogs, Jupiters and so on that I've had my hands on, they just sound right to me...
The dancing crab really sold it for me~
Thanks!
Hoping the Behringer TD3 won’t make an appearance on these videos as I’ve just brought one 🙃
I am just waiting on my Yellow one and Behringer is now saying OCTOBER for the USA! GAAAHHHHHHHH
I placed it in this video as a bait. Depends on the response from my beloved Bad Gearheads ;)
the td3 is killer
Brian Renfro the yellow one is the one I’ve literally just received 2 days ago 😊😊
AudioPilz ohh you little devil you lol 😂 😇😂😂
Yes! You also went full AcIIIId colorscheme on the TD3. Nice one ;l)
Thanks!
I purchased a Korg Kaossilator Pro Plus, sold it after realising "Pro" and "Plus" didn't save bpm,
it defaulted to 120bpm,, WTF!
And there were just 9 phrase memories, with titles limited to 1 - 9, WTF!
The Kaossilators came up quite often recently. Interesting!
Keep it up this is the best one so far
Thanks!
Bought one a few days ago! It surely doesn't sound like a 303... but expands on it! I think it's a much better interface implementation of the old Step Rec/edit, add accents, add slides from the old TB-303.
Also, I'm a little biased because i'm pairing it with a System-1 and a TR-8... which are also hated as well for their green aira color schemes, and being an "emulator" box of sorts. I still think that these sound amazingly good together.
Yeah, the TB-3 has become one of my go to synths!
and yet another epic episode of "bad gear"
congrats to your 10k+ subs
please never stop making great content!
Thanks, T!
Yeah, I've had a Kaossilator Pro and KP3 for 10 years now. They haven't aged well in looks nor do their touchscreens work as responsively. By the time this thing came out touch screens of this nature felt out dated. Really questionable decisions with the whole Aira line not least of which is their cheap LED Gamer Approved® design.
Never understood the idea behind the whole AIRA range
@@AudioPilz btw just finished the video wtf was that beat at the end dude that was dope
I HAVE ALL THREE... LMAO.
one of your best vids yet man. A+
Thanks!
Doesn't matter what anyone uses to make their music as long as it sounds good that's all that matters.
Well, it shouldn't keep one from finishing records due to bad UI, either (but yeah, that's secodary to sounding good)
Pushing buttons and twisting knobs. That’s a killer name for a TH-cam channel!
I feel sad, It's like you know all my gear... & it's bad. lol
Great minds just think alike ;)
its one guys opinion lol. gibson people hate fender ....
Great video man. I have the behringer Td3 and love it.
It has become one of my go to synths
wait arnt you in love with this thing? didnt come across like that in this video
Indeed, I only came to this video after seeing how much he used this in the Roland Aira J-6 video. Maybe this deserves revisit.
It's complicated;)
@@AudioPilzhonestly I think old mate is right you need to do a revisit, even if its a horizontal one
Another great video and funny, too! What is interesting about the TB-3 is that it actually sounds pretty good. What frustrates me about Roland is that occasionally they will hide terrific sound engine(s) packaged within a UI experience from hell (see also,...Roland JD-Xi, Jupiter Xm).
Thanks!
No joke I watch this series for the memes
Thanks!
Wow! You usually find something to like about most of the "Bad Gear" you review.
I think I'll be keeping my Behringer.
Why not both?;)
@@AudioPilz That would my usual answer. :)
sorry man TB3 is awesome! much better than the pathetic TB03 anachronistic remake.
It really grew on me. It's one of my go to synths now
LOL rebirth im Hintergrund....damit hat bei mir alles angefangen 😎👍
Same here😍
Meine Einstiegsdroge war D-lusions "Creator", ein PC-Modtracker von 1991... Zum Thema: Die haben dann später auch Rubberduck gemacht, ein super 303-inspiriertes Standalone-Ding für PC, mit 2 Beatloops usw., macht bis heute Spaß, gibt's mittlerweile für lau: www.d-lusion.com/ProductsRubberduck.html
Musikkeller stimmt jetzt wo du es sagst...da war erst noch protracker auf dem Amiga 1200.🤦🏻♂️😂😂👍
Tactile feedback is for old people
I AM OLD 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess im old!
When we had s*x within 2 meters :P
Thanks, I didn't know I needed this until I saw the video. The distorted sounds are fantastic.
Yeah, I was sceptical in the beginning but it's one of my go to synth now
Sorry but I don't agree. Tb3 is a real live instrument. Many people don't know how to use it, that's the problem. Check it out on my channel. Regards ✌🏻✌🏻
The whole AIRA line gets unwarranted hate. They are Live instruments. Great for jamming.
@@bakihanma644 the only one I haven't used is the System-1. All the other products in the Aira line I've used and they are great. I think the synth-owner NPCs have finally come around to realising that the TR-8 is a classic, I think that in time the TB-3 may develop a better reputation too. I don't hear people talk about the MX-1 much but it's a great digital mixer and almost an instrument in its own right
The TB-3 is a great audio card with a touch-pad sequencer thrown in for added value.
Will probably cover that in another episode
So THIS is what 303's look like in Austria???
No, this is what a 303 looks like in Austria en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail%C3%BCfterl
@@AudioPilz COOL. It looks big to me but is probably small to you and your father, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I always feel better about life in general after watching your videos! Nice conclusion and summation of thoughts to end this one! 👍
Thanks!
I'm sick of plastic machines by Roland.
Yeah, a lot of people waiting for the real deal from Roland
I came back! I bought one! Do the update review everyone is asking for. Thanks!
Yeah, really gotta do that one!!!
Fantastic big-beat montage!
Thank you so much!
lol I think this is the 3rd piece of gear of mine you've done a review on! I have to watch them so I can sit and nod & agree...... but I still love them. Great vids!
Thanks!