I've read/heard that the hole in the centers of bagels and donuts is there because the dough in the center would often be still uncooked, and cooking them long enough to ensure the center was cooked all the way through would lead to the outside getting overcooked/burned.
There's an Ess-a-Bagel place near me that opens at 630 AM daily. Once I saw a line at 5 AM waiting for the store to open! I often go about 3 pm just before closing to both avoid lines and get them at a sale price. Sometimes us latecomers are unlucky because they sell out by lunchtime!
You got a couple of things wrong about Jewish hand washing before bread: 1) washing or not washing does not make the bread kosher or not kosher. They're completely separate requirements. Kosher has absolutely nothing to do with blessings either. 2) the hand washing is to remove spiritual impurity, not for physical cleanliness. This, boiling the bread would have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not you need to wash
You got up to the bagel union and I'm kind of disappointed no one in the comments made a Kramer reference...😅 (And as a native NYer I'm very wary about eating bagels when I travel...)
The native New Yorker in me cringed when you got to Lender's. I will never forget how disgusted I was when I was visiting family in California and was offered one.
I tried them once as a kid and was not impressed... but around 30, after "Plan A, B, & C saw me working my down the alphabet I ended up working overnights at a Hotel... one of my duties was to set up the AM 'Continental breakfast" for the guests... part of the lay out was Bagels and cream cheese... after a long night and the boss's newly applied rule of not being able to have Pizza behind the desk, leaving me Famished with a 20 mile drive into the sun rise (Never again) I broke down and did some 'Quality Control... about a month later we came to a Mutual agreement about the future of my employment (or lack there of) but I was hooked... I ate more bagels and cream cheese in the next five years than i would have thought humanly possible...
An early Alan Menken song called “Pink Fish on a Stale Donut” is about a visitor to NYC being confronted with smoked salmon on a bagel and not knowing what to make of it.
In my childhood bagels were featured in Al Capp's comics as tooth-destroying bread. My parents remembered them from their childhood in San Francisco and New York but we were in Alabama in the 1950s and they were unknown. Decades later, I was in an auto shop in the District of Columbia during a snowstorm. One of the employees had gone across the street to get donuts for the staff. When he returned a little kid looked at the tray of donuts and said, "Look, mommy, bagels." The child was Black and it was at that moment that I knew that bagels were no longer Jewish but quite mainstream. BTW, the Québec language office suggests the spelling of "baguel" for those delicious treats. And in England you will probably see "beigel" with the first syllable sounding like "bye."
@@Zeyev I guess it could sound a bit like byegel in a very exaggerated cockney accent. But the standard English pronunciation is the same as the American version. People would look at you a bit strange if you asked for a byegel.
@@Zeyev as for spelling, you might see "Beigel" used in some places, particularly smaller shops with European links, but that would probably be considered more of an 'untranslated' version, with the standard being bagel. In a supermarket it would always be a bagel.
Many new Jewish immigrants to the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s, even observant ones, would work and shop on Shabbat. Unfortunately, most of them struggled to make a life for themselves here between language barriers and having sold everything they owned in the old country just to afford the tickets to get here.
4:37 Boiled and baked... İts been cooking in Istanbul and in Turkey for centuries. 6:27 İf its origin it looks like what we call simit and gevrek in Balkans.
On Larchmont in LA,CA, they are made by Mexicans😅😂🎉. They are Definitely Delicious, though you have to eat them with in 8 hours, if not they become hard to eat.
I'm sure someone's beaten me to this but: just like religious Jews don't cook on the sabbath, they also don't spend money (or open their stores or shop at stores that aren't kosher which likely means they'd be run by other Jews and would likely be closed on the sabbath). They would've had to pick up the food the day before.
Utterly Disgusting! _'There were similarities between the narration of a historical event and our article',_ says the person reporting on historical events with a clear timeline and unchanging sequence of events... Didn't realize historical reporting worked on the _first dibs_ principal >_>
I dunno but I'm the inverse. When I go on my annual trip to Atlanta from NYC (for a convention) I would never get a bagel but I make sure to get grits.
I'm a Montreal Jew so I obviously pronounce them baygulls but my partner is from southern Ontario and pronounces them Baguls and it makes me laugh every time. Also Montreal poppy seed bagels straight from the oven is the best bagel. Fight me. Actually don't fight me. Have a nosh. 🥯✡️🕎🇨🇦
Here is another photo, it used to be and still is the poor people's food (for farmers and slaves in the city back in the day) the Egyptian name is "Si-meat" or سميط i0.wp.com/maeloma.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/FB_IMG_1656515215484.jpg?resize=386%2C430&ssl=1
Im high af and im watching a video on bagles. This is a freakin awesome day
Dude, same!
That's why the birds on his shirt keep moving...
I am watching this video because I am eating a bagel
I've read/heard that the hole in the centers of bagels and donuts is there because the dough in the center would often be still uncooked, and cooking them long enough to ensure the center was cooked all the way through would lead to the outside getting overcooked/burned.
There's an Ess-a-Bagel place near me that opens at 630 AM daily. Once I saw a line at 5 AM waiting for the store to open! I often go about 3 pm just before closing to both avoid lines and get them at a sale price. Sometimes us latecomers are unlucky because they sell out by lunchtime!
You got a couple of things wrong about Jewish hand washing before bread:
1) washing or not washing does not make the bread kosher or not kosher. They're completely separate requirements. Kosher has absolutely nothing to do with blessings either.
2) the hand washing is to remove spiritual impurity, not for physical cleanliness. This, boiling the bread would have no bearing whatsoever on whether or not you need to wash
Was scrolling through my TH-cam feed looking for a video to watch while eating my bagel. Perfect.
My parents owned a bagel shop once. They sold it years before the pandemic.
You got up to the bagel union and I'm kind of disappointed no one in the comments made a Kramer reference...😅
(And as a native NYer I'm very wary about eating bagels when I travel...)
Bagels and pizza!!!! No one makes them like New York!!
@CrystalWilliamsoncoach eeehm Italy does Pizza very well..
The average person consumes 37.8 bagels a year? Dude, that's a two week supply for me. What are people even eating if not bagels?
FUN FOOD FACT: In some Jewish circles, the word bagel refers to a twelve - hour night's sleep. (July 26- National Bagelfest Day).
The native New Yorker in me cringed when you got to Lender's. I will never forget how disgusted I was when I was visiting family in California and was offered one.
I tried them once as a kid and was not impressed... but around 30, after "Plan A, B, & C saw me working my down the alphabet I ended up working overnights at a Hotel... one of my duties was to set up the AM 'Continental breakfast" for the guests... part of the lay out was Bagels and cream cheese... after a long night and the boss's newly applied rule of not being able to have Pizza behind the desk, leaving me Famished with a 20 mile drive into the sun rise (Never again) I broke down and did some 'Quality Control... about a month later we came to a Mutual agreement about the future of my employment (or lack there of) but I was hooked... I ate more bagels and cream cheese in the next five years than i would have thought humanly possible...
Great and informative episode!
An early Alan Menken song called “Pink Fish on a Stale Donut” is about a visitor to NYC being confronted with smoked salmon on a bagel and not knowing what to make of it.
I didn’t agree with a lot of your food history videos, but this is a well-researched video. Great job on this one!!
best thing to get at panera bread are the morning souffles
Bagels with cream cheese and lox and the Sunday NY DAILY NEWS...that was my childhood
Good stuff
6:15 want this!
In my childhood bagels were featured in Al Capp's comics as tooth-destroying bread. My parents remembered them from their childhood in San Francisco and New York but we were in Alabama in the 1950s and they were unknown. Decades later, I was in an auto shop in the District of Columbia during a snowstorm. One of the employees had gone across the street to get donuts for the staff. When he returned a little kid looked at the tray of donuts and said, "Look, mommy, bagels." The child was Black and it was at that moment that I knew that bagels were no longer Jewish but quite mainstream.
BTW, the Québec language office suggests the spelling of "baguel" for those delicious treats. And in England you will probably see "beigel" with the first syllable sounding like "bye."
In three UK we spell it bagel and definitely don't pronounce it "bye"gel
@@TessaAvonlea Now you can see why I'm confused. Are you from London or elsewhere in England or in the UK?
@@Zeyev I guess it could sound a bit like byegel in a very exaggerated cockney accent. But the standard English pronunciation is the same as the American version. People would look at you a bit strange if you asked for a byegel.
@@Zeyev as for spelling, you might see "Beigel" used in some places, particularly smaller shops with European links, but that would probably be considered more of an 'untranslated' version, with the standard being bagel. In a supermarket it would always be a bagel.
@@TessaAvonlea Beigel Bake and Beigel Shop are two well known 'beigel' shops on Brick Lane in London.
Another fact check here: yes, you can't cook food on Shabbat, but no, you cannot buy food (or anything) on Shabbat either.
Many new Jewish immigrants to the US in the late 1800s and early 1900s, even observant ones, would work and shop on Shabbat. Unfortunately, most of them struggled to make a life for themselves here between language barriers and having sold everything they owned in the old country just to afford the tickets to get here.
Right, but those people were probably also cooking on Shabbat.
MONTREAL! *shakes fist at sky*
4:37 Boiled and baked... İts been cooking in Istanbul and in Turkey for centuries. 6:27 İf its origin it looks like what we call simit and gevrek in Balkans.
Simit tastes very different to a bagel also the texture is very different. Bagels are very dense and chewy.
Taylor Ham, egg and cheese on an everything SPK for me!
On Larchmont in LA,CA, they are made by Mexicans😅😂🎉. They are Definitely Delicious, though you have to eat them with in 8 hours, if not they become hard to eat.
I'm sure someone's beaten me to this but: just like religious Jews don't cook on the sabbath, they also don't spend money (or open their stores or shop at stores that aren't kosher which likely means they'd be run by other Jews and would likely be closed on the sabbath). They would've had to pick up the food the day before.
I consume about 2 per year
Where does a bialy fit into this history?
I heckin' love a good bialy!
🎶 When pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza anytime! 🎶
bagels are dipped in caustic water (lye) before baking,
That's pretzels.
@@Plotatothewondercat boiling bagels in lye is also a thing, although it's a lot less common than it used to be
Britta would say, "baggle." She lived in New York.
Man I don't think I'll ever get used to the way Americans pronounce "Montreal"
Ya'll had better not copystrike Internet Historian again. That was not cool.
Update: THEY DID IT AGAIN! Disgusting.
Utterly Disgusting!
_'There were similarities between the narration of a historical event and our article',_ says the person reporting on historical events with a clear timeline and unchanging sequence of events... Didn't realize historical reporting worked on the _first dibs_ principal >_>
Then maybe he should stop plagiarizing.
I'm pretty sure the proper pronunciation is [BAG-gle]..
B-roll @10:08 ... Rude to make this guy wear a hair net!
You can get hard crust on bread by coating the dough with an egg wash too
How the fuck are grits (corn sand) comparable to a bagel?
I dunno but I'm the inverse. When I go on my annual trip to Atlanta from NYC (for a convention) I would never get a bagel but I make sure to get grits.
That background music is SO ANNOYING!
You can't pronounce pecan correct either
Thank you for pointing that out. It's puh-kahn not pee-can! 🤠
Montreal Style Bagels > New York Style Bagels
Wrong
Montreal bagels are handmade, and better too
Not better
Bagels are gross. Donuts are far superior.
Wrong
@@greenmachine5600 right
I'm a Montreal Jew so I obviously pronounce them baygulls but my partner is from southern Ontario and pronounces them Baguls and it makes me laugh every time.
Also Montreal poppy seed bagels straight from the oven is the best bagel. Fight me. Actually don't fight me. Have a nosh. 🥯✡️🕎🇨🇦
I did not understand the comparison between NYC pizza and midwestern cheese casserole. 🫤🤔🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
Here is another photo, it used to be and still is the poor people's food (for farmers and slaves in the city back in the day) the Egyptian name is "Si-meat" or
سميط
i0.wp.com/maeloma.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/FB_IMG_1656515215484.jpg?resize=386%2C430&ssl=1
Haven't had a bagel in at least a year, until thirty minutes ago 🥯
Synchronicity
And so it goes.