Demon Hunter Got A Talent Revamp In 11.1 PTR! Havoc Loses MASTERY Scaling! | The War Within
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I wish blizzard would just add more choice talents instead of essentially removing an entire playstyle I've gotten used to and enjoy on my DH. Oh well, maybe the new talents will be more fun than what I'm doing now.
CoH is super weird now, honestly it solve a problem but feels like a bad patch that tries to maintain the idea/fantasy of a talent that probably has no place in the game right now because of how the fights are designed.
Also, they still don't address the biggest problem with DH that has been pointed out by the entire community at this point, the excess of micro damage windows that must be perfectly aligned in order to do decent damage.
The Demon Hunter tier set looks like the Garothi Worldbreaker from Antorus, the Burning Throne. At least we’re getting a cool tier set 🔥
I was trying to to find which fel engine exactly it was ty so much :D
This sounds like an extensive nerf to Havoc. Removing mastery from multiple talents and replacing it with a talent that is based on blade dance which is one talent that does not scale as the expansion goes on. Half of the abilities will be affected by removing, any means necessary
That set looks like Lord Zedd
Give me a third tree of a ranged throwing build.. Call it Glaive Lord and let me light my glaives on fire, or as they hit they drop sigil. idk Im just throwing shit out there. I feel like this class got left behind.
HELL NOOOO. GIVE ME A 2HD GLAIVE WIELDING MONSTROSITY HALF DEMON!!! Leaping back and forth, chunking ppl with a giant 2hd glaive, fire and destruction. Oh yeah.
Bro, that's legit what I want aswell xD exactly like that
When it comes to demon hunters, most I'm looking for, are glyphs for metamorphosis. I don't wanna look like illidan's daughter forever, why not become one of the spider demons or something? We have the wing glyph for them (tattered wings), why not the metamorphosis too?
Not everything is a revamp when two to three talents change..
The only thing ai hated was the mastery and any means nescessary removal/nerf, but the throw glaive talent was fun in DF, the rest Idc about, but realy going to miss the mastery+ talent
I wish they would just fire our dev his name is Realz and he's a real bozo
we're doomed DH mains. doomed. Illidan's eye beam on Xeera is NOTHING compared to this lol - we all wanted the T3 DH tier set effect to come back but ofc we have to lose AMN in the process... Considering how long Havoc's gone on PTR without updates it truly looks like we're going to be trash next szn which sucks cuz I have a feeling Undermined is going to be an all-time great patch/raid tier - i understand they have to remove things in order to "rebuild" but why do this right before a new raid tier -_-
I just wish they made their survival better or perhaps improvements in other areas. I understand PvP is not balanced around 1v1 or 2v2, but the fact that they are far worse, almost useless, in 1v1, compared to other classes is just downright depressing. Even their damage output is lackluster compared to others. PvE doesn't concern me so it's whatever in that department. Every class gets a chance to play, to try, but demon hunter seem to just drop dead.
But besides that it really sucks that they will be losing so much damage with the mastery talent gone, unless they add something that makes up for it, particularly single target.
these changes seemed like they were trying to give more uses for aldrachi reaver, but I’ve heard that screaming brutality’s throw glaive does not (currently) trigger the aldrachi reaver buff. so it seems like either a bug or an oversight.
removing AMN is such a terrible idea. we already don’t do that much damage, so why are we getting a damage nerf? all this does is make the class much weaker.
the only viable build I see so far is using cycle of hatred for the 20s eye beam CD by using the updated mobility abilities for the burst window. I don’t see what value screaming brutality brings if the glaives can’t trigger aldrachi reaver.
No. You don’t want BD triggering Aldrich’s reaver because you want to blade dance first after your reaver hit to maximize the reaver buff. But if reaver activated on your bd then you would be on bd cooldown and couldn’t optimize.
@ then what is the purpose of screaming brutality? it doesn’t synergize with either hero talent tree.
@@trevermckenzie4308 it doesn't directly, but aldrachi tends to grab more throw glaive based talents so that synergizes well with brutality. essentially, they both dip into the same sets of talents.
Nah that tier-set looks dog-shite I'm afraid, doesn't fit the theme at all.
Yeah. That’s what Demon Hunters want. A chest that hides their tattoos, so that a lot of opt to just hide the entire chest all together.
Go run Antorus, the set looks like the Garothi Worldbreaker. It fits the legion theme, and I think it’s very cool.
How many sets that are basically shirtless dudes with various horns on the head and shoulders do you need at this point?
@@cosmokramer7926 MORE
wtb new dh dev
um, the whole point of a DH is the movement.
This doesn’t sound great at all..
Where's the revamp? Just some changes, not a revamp at all ... This channel is just clickbait and 20+ min talk over changes that can be said in less than 2 min ...
If you dont main a DH, just say it, dont have to put down a channel because you dont understand the deep dive.
@@Safiel44I main DH and it’s not a revamp. Hunters, Shammies, priests, mw monks - they got revamps. DHs got very little. We got demon surge capped, lost AMN, and got brutality. Then the rest is bugged on PTR and the last two ptr iterations have provided 0 updates to both specs.
But go ahead, keep saying people don’t know the class…
@@lostpenguins DH main here. its totally a revamp. if youre not informed just say that. they removed the need to move as much as well as how stats affect abilities. absolutely a revamp. not a good one but oh well.
@ I am informed. "they removed the need to move as much" - you mean now instead of Immolate + fel rush you instead VR + FR or VR + FB? That's not a major rework. How's our rotation looking? Exactly the same. The rotation has not changed. In fact, the new tier set hurts it because you don't get BD/DS on procs anymore so it's so straightforward what you're pressing.
Oh and they nerfed Mastery into the ground... that's so "groundbreaking". I guess you haven't played DH for very long because, as far as most tiers go, mastery hasn't been a good stat for us. It was always Crit + Vers, or Crit + Haste with Mastery getting dumpstered. I liked that Mastery was our best trait this tier and that won't be the case anymore.
I guess it's really "what do you consider a revamp"? I look at the complete changes to Enh Shaman and MM that had total playstyle changes. Besides Immo + FR vs VR + FR/FB, what changes to our rotation has there been since... inception? You know, when we were doing BF into TG for TG bleed when the Emerald Nightmare raid first came out.
Again, compare this against other classes and tell me how different our rotation is compared to other classes since Legion which was 5 expansions ago?
@ The playstyle is a revamp off one talent alone, its not long in and out, in and out, like a fighter jet pilot. Its idol for 20 seconds, might as well made it a flat base buff, but thats TOO boring. Lol. It'll come back or it will become a dead talent.
bring back perma meta please.