And in 1956 The movie that killed John Wayne, director Dick Powell and around 80 or 90 more people that died from cancer was filmed in that area.. The movie was called The Conqueror.. And they were all told that the area was safe
John Wayne died from gastric cancer, a direct result of his years and years of smoking up to 4 packs of cigarettes a day and booze. It is extremely unlikely that radiation caused his cancer.
Hey, that's back when smoking was good for you...remember, "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette"... or, "Kent cigarettes. The one all the doctors are smoking." Must have been the Miconite filter...made of...asbestos. The 1950s were full of hazards nobody knew about. But, we've advanced past all that. Now we have people afraid of being hurt by words...
@@peachkopp1352yes it has, as has the attitude towards many things. Do you still see construction workers using asbestos or doctors smoking ext to their patient? Do they still conduct nuclear tests at all, let alone atmospheric tests? Their attitude towards nuclear testing back then was appealing to today's standards, but so was the attitude towards many things like smoking, asbestos, leaded gasoline, processing chemicals, pesticides in agriculture etc. etc. So in historical context the tests were conducted according to the safety standards of that era, and likely even more safely.
Not enough years had gone by to appreciate the soaring cancer and leukemia rates, so everything was considered OK. Imagine being so delusionally arrogant as to believe you could win a nuclear war?
@@badbotchdown9845 my parents had a Frigidaire refer, bought new in the late 50s, replaced it with a new, side-by-side in the mid-60s, the old one went to the rec room and ran flawlessly until my dad sold the house in 2002, he gave it to a neighbor who used it to make a beer refer with a keg and tap. From then on, I lost track of it.
There's nothing they don't know about the effects of this shit.. They keep it all secret..even from doctors..then blame the victims for bad diet and lifestyle
The John Wayne movie “The Conqueror” was filmed in the deserts near St George during test season. Most of the cast & crew years later died of various cancers, including John Wayne. I believe there had been cancer studies about St George, but as usual, the Us Govt denies any connection between the cancer rate & nuke testing.
I live a little further down wind in Kingman AZ and used to work in St George. There was a $100 million compensation fund setup in the 90s and it is known as Downwinders. Of course you have to jump through a bunch of fences to qualify. I also barely remember folks here around Kingman were trying to get covered 20 or so years ago but I don't remember the outcome. There was an increase in cancer, birth defects in the area...as to be expected. I also vaguely remember that it came out , that the AEC saw St George as a opportunity to study longterm radiation exposure on a small isolated group and it was one of things where the "common good" outweighed any common sense, decency and mortality. I'm sure if you were to Google it, it was "common knowledge" decades ago (not that the info ever gets out). BTW the numbers of deaths on the Conquer film are staggering. Have a nice day.
I am Looking for movie that I believe was banned about the effects of radiation. Downwinders. The movie was about a woman, the wife of a government worker who studied the effects of radiation, then husband was demoted and drugged and put into an institution when we searched for the effects it had on ranchers in Nevada. I remember the woman driving a long ways and the husband basket weaving, but not much else.
Four of family died of cancer ,we lived about 600 miles NE of Hanford Washington during the mid 40's to early 60's in SE B.C .Others of family have a degree of cancer. But it's okay, nobody had control over the MIC. People would say they were in the fifties to seventy years old .How many have died from these tests because of these so called tests. the late 40's to early 65.But we needed these tests to protect the people from others. I love watching these old programs. Just to bad they weren't showing during time they were produced to general public. Just a observation from a senior.
Atomic Cafe talks about all those people acting in this film dying of cancer from the fallout in St. George, the police officer, milk man. They call them down winders.
Scaring the way this USAF speaker says "all right in St George,its only a(patriotic) nuclear blast,not a (red) one"🤣 And Thats All Folks,remember contact USAF if you find in your ranch strange communist debris,communist corpses,Alien corpses or Communist Alien corpses"
@@harrietharlow9929 thankyou again for going an extra mile to send the link to the video. It means a lot . May you have all the happiness in the world and a righteous life. Thanks again for the wonderful movie scene.
My grand of father and my real father did worked at Aerojets to maked dry fuels missiles for submarines as the Polaris missiles and Standard missiles and too my gran of father worked on project NERVA too. They worked at Jackass Flats test area out there too.
Yeah...well, then there is the Dugway Proving Grounds and the dead livestock the government paid for from chemical weapons leaks. I guess living can be hazardous to your health...
What would be really interesting: how much did the government really know about the health effects of nuclear tests back then? I mean inside the top secret documents....
By the 1950s, the government certainly knew enough about the dangers of radioactivity. Muller received the Nobel prize in 1946 for his research in how radiation mutated genes and caused cancers. He had first began researching this in 1926.
@paleolithictech And I received 9600 rads (96 Sieverts) over 16 weeks at a rate of 180 rads (1.8 Sieverts) per day. So, there you go...sometimes radiation is good for you...
Speaking of Chernobyl, the "babushkas" live and have lived at that site for many years and are for the most part quite healthy and aged, say65 up to 88/89. They grow their own food and acquire water from nearby streams and wells. They are happy and carefree ladies & more than happy to show anyone who wishes, their environment.
Cows are perfectly safe, if you go to the supermarket and get a steak and if it talks to you or it asks you where are you taking me ?? Run out of the supermarket like if you're your pants are on fire - but don't worry it's probably the radiation on the beef.lol
Wait before I know did they really just let military guys sit in a trench in the nuke?omg if not I guess it makes sense for them to hear or feel it but like yk those guys died no way bro a nuke?
Duck and cover could be the difference between life and death if you are a few miles outside of ground zero. Especially if you can barricade yourself behind some books or other materials to limit radiation. Obviously if your right next to the epicenter your going to die. There was a Japanese American who was born in Hiroshima and was in the city during the bombing. He saw the air plane coming in as a little kid and his mom made him as his brother get down from where he was watching the plane just before the explosion. He moved to the US and I think he is still alive. One of his relatives did die of cancer resulting from radiation, but if he had not gotten down he would have certainly died.
Strange how other states got compensation from down winders but New Mexico still continues to get discriminated against but hey they did since before 1912 so it's the same discrimination on New Mexico citizens
Man, I wish we still had some of those Davy Crockett systems! A cute little tactical field nuke, a yield of only 20 tons of TNT -- it'd be fun to ship a few of those to the Ukrainian Army right about now. ;)
![Downwinders and the Radioactive West [FULL DOCUMENTARY]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/77gJtV13ouo/mqdefault.jpg)
I was a kid in the 50's in Minnesota. My mother would scold us for eating snow and licking icicles. She cautioned us about fallout. She was correct.
I live in northern MN and I still won't put an icicle in my drink. My mom said the same thing. I remember picking up chaff in my neighbor's field.
And in 1956 The movie that killed John Wayne, director Dick Powell and around 80 or 90 more people that died from cancer was filmed in that area.. The movie was called The Conqueror.. And they were all told that the area was safe
John Wayne died from gastric cancer, a direct result of his years and years of smoking up to 4 packs of cigarettes a day and booze. It is extremely unlikely that radiation caused his cancer.
The wind is bringing fallout your way...just stay inside for an hour you'll be fine...
That really was a good one 😀
Incredible to see the earlier attitude toward nuclear endeavors.
Hey, that's back when smoking was good for you...remember, "More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette"... or, "Kent cigarettes. The one all the doctors are smoking." Must have been the Miconite filter...made of...asbestos. The 1950s were full of hazards nobody knew about. But, we've advanced past all that. Now we have people afraid of being hurt by words...
Hasn't changed
It was.. Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine 💃 🕺
@@peachkopp1352yes it has, as has the attitude towards many things. Do you still see construction workers using asbestos or doctors smoking ext to their patient? Do they still conduct nuclear tests at all, let alone atmospheric tests?
Their attitude towards nuclear testing back then was appealing to today's standards, but so was the attitude towards many things like smoking, asbestos, leaded gasoline, processing chemicals, pesticides in agriculture etc. etc. So in historical context the tests were conducted according to the safety standards of that era, and likely even more safely.
Not enough years had gone by to appreciate the soaring cancer and leukemia rates, so everything was considered OK. Imagine being so delusionally arrogant as to believe you could win a nuclear war?
Ah, I see they are using an, “Electrolux,” vacuum cleaner, my mom used one for many years, the thing was bullet-proof.
Almost everything was built better back then. My mum had a Hoover for years and years, then she gave it to me and I had it for five or six years.
Atomic proof
And now it's the worst goods ever made except for luxury prices
@@badbotchdown9845 my parents had a Frigidaire refer, bought new in the late 50s, replaced it with a new, side-by-side in the mid-60s, the old one went to the rec room and ran flawlessly until my dad sold the house in 2002, he gave it to a neighbor who used it to make a beer refer with a keg and tap. From then on, I lost track of it.
"And in Las Vegas , a gambler throwing a winning dice toss is interrupted by the bombs shock wave."
Excellent your videos are a blast 💥 thanks for your work
Has there ever been a study of the cancer rate of the towns that were downwind of the tests?
There's nothing they don't know about the effects of this shit..
They keep it all secret..even from doctors..then blame the victims for bad diet and lifestyle
The John Wayne movie “The Conqueror” was filmed in the deserts near St George during test season.
Most of the cast & crew years later died of various cancers, including John Wayne.
I believe there had been cancer studies about St George, but as usual, the Us Govt denies any connection between the cancer rate & nuke testing.
I live a little further down wind in Kingman AZ and used to work in St George. There was a $100 million compensation fund setup in the 90s and it is known as Downwinders. Of course you have to jump through a bunch of fences to qualify. I also barely remember folks here around Kingman were trying to get covered 20 or so years ago but I don't remember the outcome. There was an increase in cancer, birth defects in the area...as to be expected.
I also vaguely remember that it came out , that the AEC saw St George as a opportunity to study longterm radiation exposure on a small isolated group and it was one of things where the "common good" outweighed any common sense, decency and mortality. I'm sure if you were to Google it, it was "common knowledge" decades ago (not that the info ever gets out). BTW the numbers of deaths on the Conquer film are staggering. Have a nice day.
@@densealloy thank you for the response, I will Definitely do more research on “downwinders” with Google
To learn what happened to St. George Utah, read the book: The Day We Bombed Utah...
I am Looking for movie that I believe was banned about the effects of radiation. Downwinders. The movie was about a woman, the wife of a government worker who studied the effects of radiation, then husband was demoted and drugged and put into an institution when we searched for the effects it had on ranchers in Nevada. I remember the woman driving a long ways and the husband basket weaving, but not much else.
Four of family died of cancer ,we lived about 600 miles NE of Hanford Washington during the mid 40's to early 60's in SE B.C .Others of family have a degree of cancer. But it's okay, nobody had control over the MIC. People would say they were in the fifties to seventy years old .How many have died from these tests because of these so called tests. the late 40's to early 65.But we needed these tests to protect the people from others. I love watching these old programs. Just to bad they weren't showing during time they were produced to general public. Just a observation from a senior.
Atomic Cafe talks about all those people acting in this film dying of cancer from the fallout in St. George, the police officer, milk man. They call them down winders.
😢
And remember that's when the military used to pass around cigarettes to soldiers - even the red cross used to pass around cigarettes,
"This radioactive fallout was not dangerous". To quote John Cena: "Are you sure about that?"
To quote John Wayne, "The hell it is!"
Did he say that in English, or Mandarin?
If the general population notices an ear or your nose falls of your face just take a deep breath and count to ten Lol
11:35
I never get tired of seeing that, so cool!
add all over the midwest kids were complaining of swollen throats or thyroid glands. . was it the Cesium or another isotope that caused cancers?
Scaring the way this USAF speaker says "all right in St George,its only a(patriotic) nuclear blast,not a (red) one"🤣
And Thats All Folks,remember contact USAF if you find in your ranch strange communist debris,communist corpses,Alien corpses or Communist Alien corpses"
Every cloud has a silver lining...and it's radioactive!
It’s pre-dawn, 5 in the morning.
Me: yep…
This reminds me of the movie where Indiana Jones finds himself on a nuclear test site and has to take shelter in a refrigerator. lol
Which movie
@@drtk6719 I believe the title is "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls".
@@harrietharlow9929 thanks
@@drtk6719 you're very welcome! Here is that scene:
th-cam.com/video/jn4Vhkmb4Lw/w-d-xo.html
@@harrietharlow9929 thankyou again for going an extra mile to send the link to the video. It means a lot .
May you have all the happiness in the world and a righteous life.
Thanks again for the wonderful movie scene.
My grand of father and my real father did worked at Aerojets to maked dry fuels missiles for submarines as the Polaris missiles and Standard missiles and too my gran of father worked on project NERVA too. They worked at Jackass Flats test area out there too.
Jackass flats! Slowly I turned! Oh, wait, that was Niagara Falls.
Would have been interesting to hear their stories.
A late 1957 blast devastated the Kaibito Indian Reservation in northern Arizona. 😢
45 years later - the NTS was VERY IMPRESSIVE!
I love the part of local livestock having eye and skin reactions but we're mild, below harmful amounts. Yet owners were compensated monetarily.
Yeah...well, then there is the Dugway Proving Grounds and the dead livestock the government paid for from chemical weapons leaks. I guess living can be hazardous to your health...
What would be really interesting: how much did the government really know about the health effects of nuclear tests back then? I mean inside the top secret documents....
By the 1950s, the government certainly knew enough about the dangers of radioactivity. Muller received the Nobel prize in 1946 for his research in how radiation mutated genes and caused cancers. He had first began researching this in 1926.
STILL PROPAGANDA When the govt, tells us something is good? beware
Two weeks to flatten the curve…safe and effective…
Brought to you by the Military Industrial Complex.
This propaganda makes me ill. No..... wait.... it's the fallout making me sick.
Very unecessary and wreckless for the US government to allow this..
Absolutely! And physicists knew this, they knew very well how dangerous the atom bomb and its effects were.
Poor pigs 🐷💣
not more than 3.6 Roentgen
Today, radiation exposure is measured in Sieverts. 107.19 Roentgens in a Sievert. One Sievert (1,000 mSv) can cause radiation sickness.
@paleolithictech And I received 9600 rads (96 Sieverts) over 16 weeks at a rate of 180 rads (1.8 Sieverts) per day. So, there you go...sometimes radiation is good for you...
@@buckhorncortez Yeah, look how you turned out. (LOL)
@paleolithictech😁
Speaking of Chernobyl, the "babushkas" live and have lived at that site for many years and are for the most part quite healthy and aged, say65 up to 88/89. They grow their own food and acquire water from nearby streams and wells. They are happy and carefree ladies & more than happy to show anyone who wishes, their environment.
Cows are perfectly safe, if you go to the supermarket and get a steak and if it talks to you or it asks you where are you taking me ?? Run out of the supermarket like if you're your pants are on fire - but don't worry it's probably the radiation on the beef.lol
We need to test to find out if... Oh who am I kidding, we like to blow shit up.
….yep, A-bombs are the ultimate fire crackers.
The last time I was this early to a Nuclear Test, I was just a toddler. (in the 1960s)
Atomic for peace 😊..
Every country should have it then.
It's advice for people to stay indoors for the next 60 years Lol
3.6 Roetgen, not great not terrible
Wait before I know did they really just let military guys sit in a trench in the nuke?omg if not I guess it makes sense for them to hear or feel it but like yk those guys died no way bro a nuke?
wow
Duck and cover.
Duck and cover could be the difference between life and death if you are a few miles outside of ground zero. Especially if you can barricade yourself behind some books or other materials to limit radiation. Obviously if your right next to the epicenter your going to die. There was a Japanese American who was born in Hiroshima and was in the city during the bombing. He saw the air plane coming in as a little kid and his mom made him as his brother get down from where he was watching the plane just before the explosion. He moved to the US and I think he is still alive. One of his relatives did die of cancer resulting from radiation, but if he had not gotten down he would have certainly died.
propaganda film! Everything’s just fine!
My...you're a sharp one. How long did it take for you to figure that out?
Strange how other states got compensation from down winders but New Mexico still continues to get discriminated against but hey they did since before 1912 so it's the same discrimination on New Mexico citizens
Have another pie 🤣🤣😂😂
@@rapman5363 🥧🍰 😋
If time ever came that nuclear weapons were abolished, be prepared for numerous sequels of WW2
Major lying about long range irradiation of livestock, crops, humans.
Calming propaganda
😂😂😂😂
Lights a 🚬💨
Man, I wish we still had some of those Davy Crockett systems! A cute little tactical field nuke, a yield of only 20 tons of TNT -- it'd be fun to ship a few of those to the Ukrainian Army right about now. ;)
Yes help nazis kill people and radiate more land you got a great heart
Davey Crockett was abandoned for good reason.
HEHE