I am a downwinder. Born in Cedar City, 5-1953, and raised 7 miles north in a small town called Summit. I very much remember the broadcasts from the local radio station KSUB about upcoming tests and warned parents to keep the kids in for a day or two. And YES I was diagnosed with AML, leukemia in September of 2020. I'm very sure it was due to all those bomb tests and the Nevada Test Site. The people who dispute the radiation danger to health and blind or paid a lot to say different!!!!! Edit: I had to have a Bone Marrow transplant and I am CLEAR as of April 2024. Praying for those who ware taken from us.
Years ago a Russian immigrant told me both governments hid the real dangers of nuclear testing from the people but the Russians having lived under Stalin did not trust what they were told. He said the Americans trusted too much. I pray you stay clear.
@dotorperiod very glad to hear you are clear. So many people have suffered worldwide because of nuclear testing, and it is a disgraceful chapter of modern history. All the best to you.
@@ryanrutherford884yes and all of James Fox’s UFO documentaries like “I know what I saw” “The Phenomenon” and “Moment of Contact” which I highly recommend.. even if you are a skeptical person like me.. Moment of Contact is mind boggling. It is free here on TH-cam
I was born and bred in South Australia. Maralinga was 1 of the nuclear sites from British Atomic testing in the 1950-1960. I was exposed to fallout along with 1000’s of others. My mother died of cancer my sister died of cancer and I have thyroid cancer. I feel your concerns and pain.
On this channel, you always ask for future video ideas. Can you please explain what was going on in Alaska, Western Canada, and, Washington during the cold War, yes, Cuba is close to Anerica, but Alaska is close to Russia. Were we not worried about being attacked from the northwest?
We need an Australian made, high quality, up to date documentary film about the deadly effects of the tests at Maralinga, the Marshall Islands (Bikini Atol), etc- widely distributed. The potentially deadly effects of nuclear power (whether for use in bombs or for power generation) seem to have been all but forgotten, given the current suggestions of introducing nuclear power generation in Australia. I'm sorry for your loss, and wish you all the best with your own health issues.
In the 90s I worked for a temp agency for a while. One of my assignments was working at a real estate seminar. One of the attendees was a Veteran that had been at Bikini Atole for the nuclear testing. He had cancer at the time and knew he had gotten it from the testing. Having had my own cancer battle, I can completely empathize with the Downwinders. 🕊️🕊️🕊️
50,000 was the population of Las Vegas during the height of the cold war? Oddly, that was the population of the tri-cities near Hanford Nuclear Reservation at the same time--the 3rd largest city in Washington State, now a permanent deadly waste site. Hanford was where the plutonium was produced for the nuclear arms race. Decades ago, it was officially recognized that Hanford employees and tri-city residents had a higher risk of developing cancer due to the enrichment process and radioactive waste The Atomic Energy Commission (later absorbed by the Dept of Energy) would legally drag its feet for years before paying restitution to the victims until (I believe it was the early 90's) a judge finally forced them to pay. The Government settled with the 5 people who remained...all 5 had cancer.
5 people remained? No, that's wrong. My mom & her siblings were down winders of the Hanford site. Her sister, my aunt, was involved in the lawsuit. She is still alive. She has had cancer. A few times.
My dad was at the Nevada Test Site during Operation Tumbler-Snapper. He was in the Army Signal Corp and set up all the communications equipment in preparation for atomic detonation. He spent 2-3 months on site and was involved in two nuclear tests. One of those soldiers you see crouching in a trench. He said they received high doses of radiation while all the military brass and distinguished guests watched the blasts at a safe distance in air conditioned buses. He was proud of his service, but bitter about being an expendable tool, not much different than the common farm animals tethered to posts out in the blast zone. He passed at the age of 55 from Lymphoma. The only known member of his side of the family to contract cancer.
I worked at Los Alamos for 8 years in the 1970's. I have cancer from my exposures there. I am receiving compensation, and the government is paying for my cancer care, but that would not have happened in the 50's or 60's.
@@Joey4rox Cheers. I was recently reading some employee testimonies about wildly unsafe practices at Santa Susana Field Laboratory / Rocketdyne. Open burn pits, just total disregard for employee and public safety. There are streets in Simi Valley where on one side you might find 3 of the same hyper-rare, one in 10 million cancers. Absolutely wild stuff. If you type FINAL FORMER EMPLOYEE INTERVIEW REPORT SANTA SUSANA FIELD LABORATORY SITE into google you’ll get a fascinating report. The low ranking ex-employees are quite candid. The high ranking ones refuse to comment, or say very little. One employee describes a technician routinely removing his dosimeter badge in order to run into the reactor pile and make an adjustment by kicking a piece with his foot because the robotic controls were finicky!
@@user-fi6qr8wb9u😂ok, it's the internet. My family worked several of the isotope energy projects out at the inl, and my grandfather before he died would tell you that him just like everyone else ended up with cancer or something similar if they made it to his age
My father died from cancer, my aunty died from cancer and so did several of my uncle's. How revolting this's. I was born in 1963 and was diagnosed with Hashimotos disease of my thyroid gland 30 years later
Both my parents died from cancer in 1986. Lived in Nebraska and Wyoming in the 50’s and 60’s. Fallout downwind was supposedly slight, but is there any “safe” dose?
John Wayne's absolute worst movie was "The Conqueror". Can you imagine him playing Genghis Khan in dark-face and scotch-tape-slanted eyes, with that cowboy accent? Yes, this ludicrous farce was produced by the then-turned-insane ex-aviator Howard Hughes. Filmed with horses kicking up the fallout-saturated red desert sands just west of St. George, Utah, downwind of the Nevada tests. Cast and crew ended up suffering from (I think) at least three times the cancer rate compared to the rest of the USA. Wayne, a very heavy smoker, died of (apparently unrelated) lung cancer. But most of the rest involved in the on-site making of "The Conqueror" died early deaths from leukemia. The government never warned them of the known radioactive danger; no one ever warned them or owned up to the responsibility of exposure.
The cast and crew of The Conqueror’s cancer and death rates were perfectly normal for their time and demographics. Who would have thought that smoking like a freight train and drinking like a fish was bad for your health? The newspaper story that started the myth accidentally got the death rates for non-smokers from an actuarial and used it and didn’t get the actual death rates for heavy smokers and/or drinkers which counted for most of the cast and crew of The Conqueror. There is some evidence that some of the cancer types were different than expected though.
The cast was hesitant to film once they learned of the tests. So John Wayne gave a “patriotic” speech and said “I called the agency to ask if it was safe, and if government tells us its safe, then damnit its safe!” He then said, “to prove it to you I brought a radiation detector here!” He turned it on and it immediately began to read an astonishingly high number of counts per minute. Everywhere he pointed it, the readings were as high as the scale would read. Wayne said “the damn thing must be broken.” And so they the kept filming.
Almost two decades ago I started collecting vintage watches which introduced me to the study of radioactivity and radioactive luminous compounds and while my scientific fascination with this entire subject continues to this day, The use of dogs and other animals in direct exposure to the bast makes me both angry and sick.
I was crying when I heard that about the dogs and animals. Absolutely no reason for that!! They already knew the effects of radiation from Japan!! No need to be sick and sadistic on innocent life!! 😢😢😢
PBSUtah you do good things by making documentaries such as this. It should be shown to as many people as possible as a reminder that as a species, we are often harmed by so-called "progress" and "technological advances". I find some of the minimisation and downplaying of the risks to be quite disturbing. I do wonder however about the ability, or rather the supposed lack of ability to determine causation. Some of the radioisotopes only exist as a result of nuclear fission, and perhaps these isotopes could be detected in human tissue, at least in the bodies of people alive during the periods of actual direct exposure, if not in their descendants. Anyway, thankyou for making this.
My parents went to school in Henderson Nevada and they made the children stand on the playground and watch the mushroom clouds and wait for the hot wind. When the hot wind hit them, the teachers recorded the time and the classes could go back inside. My aunts all have weird cancer and my father is dead.
I got a dose of the Utah radiation as a very young child. Then we moved to Washington. Grew up fairly close to Hanford. I don't have a thyroid any more.
2,590?...nuclear weapons tested since 1945, in space, in the outer atmosphere, in the sky, on the land, underground, above and under the sea..all that haf no effects on the environment or health of any creatures.
I have lived with this story my entire live. I also lived through cancer. How do we deal with any of this when the only goal of the government is to deny any responsibility. Shame on them. The end lies in God's hands.
The expert 5 minutes in recommends that claims be limited to the lifetime of the people who lived during the exposure. But for women their eggs were exposed and females conceived also naturally developed eggs that were exposed due to the exposure of the grandmother. So yes, these exposures can be expected to carry through at least 3 generations through female exposures.
This! Where can i get more information about this?! My mom is a down winder. Her siblings have had cancer. What has been passed to me? What did i pass to my kids?
People labour under the illusion that the radioactivity stays where it falls. Everyone everywhere is affected by these explosions. It's blown all around the globe.Hiroshima, Nagasaki,South Pacific, Chernobyl, depleted uranium from Iraq and Afghanistan,it all blows around. In southwest England we have an phenomenon most winters when desert sand from Saudi Arabia is deposited across the southwest. During the invasion of Iraq in 2003 within days of the bombing starting we had sensors at Aldermaston picking up depleted uranium. It's no coincidence that cancer rates all across the world have been rocketing up ever since WW2. We're all affected.
Never realized how much Peter Coyote's voice sounds like Kevin costner. I've watched numerous TH-cam documentaries and it's weird how many times it's Peter Coyote doing the narration😂
1000 tons or so I think. The first bombs were very large, heavy, and inefficient; they only burned say 2% of their fissile material. But the fallout actually got worse when they developed small high yield weapons because a much higher percentage of fairly stable material like P239 and U235 (fuel) was fissioned into highly radioactive daughter elements... Then with the thermonuclear testing you are talking many tons of material in a single device: shots like the Shrimp device used in the Castle Bravo test had a highly enriched uranium tamper that weighed over a ton all by itself, the design was immediately weaponized, and the bomb weighed 42,000 pounds US or 19 tonnes metric. This was typical of the weight of the first generations of U.S. and Soviet thermonuclear designs, the Mk-36 weighed 8 metric tonnes. All of these early, heavy, weapons, US, Russian, French, UK, yada yada were all atmospheric tested back in the 1950's.
At the very least, iodine tablets should have been distributed as a matter of course to the towns anywhere near the potential range of any fallout...but then that might have caused concern, further distrust, and panic, and we couldn't have that, could we?
When I was about 3and a half when I seen my first atomic blast at about 60 miles away. It was impressive. I viewed it like a firework display, and my reaction was: When I grow up I'am getting me some of those!
Many in my state of North Dakota of my age have had thyroid cancer in our 20’s, much childhood illness & other cancers in our later age. I have had cancer three times. Summertime Jet streams bring Nevada & Southwest air to our area. In the 1950’s drank unprocessed milk, the milk cows ate grass with radioactive fallout on it, while we were playing outdoors. Drank water from our well. Any question why we have been identified as a “Cancer Cell” population by the medical community up here? We were all exposed as wee children.
@marytompkins-bv2iw nuclear is only one nasty compound cows eat... Living downwind a pulp mill will get you sick... same for mine... or even just a highway! Can't stop progress tho... that's what's important...
If you haven't been completely disillusioned by the character of our government/military/intelligence activities over the past century I'm confident in saying you simply haven't been exposed to enough information yet.
In the late 70s, in a place called The Headbent Attic, I met a man who told me a story I could not validate until the internet was available. He said he was from Micronesia, an area of what is also knows as the Bikini Atoll. He told me his family's story. It made me ashamed to be an American. Over the years, I assumed that the reason we brought the testing home was not convenience nor preventing espionage, but pressure from our cold war enemy, the USSR. So leaks to Stalin (or later, Khrushchev), not espionage, may have been the concern.
Possibly. In the late 40's we had Project Mogul , sending up high altitude weather balloons with radiosonde's attached. They could detect nuclear activity in the higher atmosphere, giving us a clue if USSR was testing their own nukes.
What few Americans understand is that the US Constitution in NO Way mandates that the Fed Govt is responsible for the Welfare of The People. FDR tried to change this with his proposal for an Economic Bill of Rights in 1945. However, he died a few months later and his proposal died with him. Notice that all food banks are stocked from private contributions, not the Govt. All the Homeless & Hungry People on America's streets today, while our Fed Govt sends billions to Ukraine & Jizrael should be proof enough that our Fed Govt bears no reponsibility for its own People. Long story short, given the above, I'm not a bit surprised that the Fed Govt Does NOT Give A $HIT about the Downwinders.
I know John McStain didn't. He promised to look into getting Mohave County in Arizona downwinder funds, but nothing ever came of it. All surrounding Counties get it but not us. We're about 100 miles away from the test sites. Obviously I never liked him but that's one more reason I call him McStain.
@@phil20_20 If that were so, then FDR's Economic Bill of Rights would've been redundant. What you must understand is that when the Constitution says "We the people" that only includes the White Anglo-Saxon Protestants (WASP's) who first settled this nation. The Constitution sees the rest of us as expendable rubbish.
@@Audioobscure I never see that here in Northern California, nor did I see that in a food bank in Ft Worth TX when I was a volunteer there around 2007. ALL that I've ever seen are charitable donations by supermarket chains. And if you did see Govt Food at a Food Bank, then rest assured that the Govt was under NO Obligation to put it there. It's tough to admit Whatta Big $ucker that you've been all along but I'm certain that you'll feel much better after you do.
Radionuclides also blew up into Idaho. Emmett, ID about 10 miles NW of Boise and for whatever reason was a concentrator. One of the reasons I decided not to move there. Kinda silly as this whole area was likely exposed to some extent.
I don't know how many years ago it was but I saw a documentary here on TH-cam about all the people that suffered in Central Asia and Kazakhstan during the Russian nuclear testing.
33:45 is the headline: they only tested when the wind blew to the least populated area, southern utah. Not one word about the 50k residents 65 miles away in las vegas!
I’ve been a fan of Star Trek since I was a teen in the ‘80’s. It storyline says it took a 3rd world war & 1st contact with an alien civilization to eventually get humanity to unite as one people & quit fighting one another. I hope another global war doesn’t have to happen for humanity to come to its senses & stop destroying itself. We think we’re so modern & sophisticated but in reality we’re still barbarians with bigger sticks. It’s madness that we poison ourselves as we did with atomic weapons & still today with unlimited pollution. If there’s god out there, what must it think about how we’re so careless with this beautiful blue marble floating in the eternal blackness of the universe.
I think our repressive government knew all too well the dangers of radioactive fallout; they just wanted to avoid all responsibility. Unfortunately, they succeeded all too well.
We still operate under very similar criteria in more ways now. FDA CDC this was never a fair battle. My family lived in SD. Mom and sister born in late 40s both have had thyroid conditions. Parents both died of cancers on there 60s approximately 40 yrs after bombs.
Dugway Utah, was where My Mother was exposed 1952-53. She died of cancer in 1977😢. I don't know what kind. Dad was a nuclear chemist for the Army. We got? 🖕
IIRC Kodak notified the government after their film stock got contaminated by the airborne radiation. Henceforth Kodak was notified when testing was to be conducted so Kodak could suspend production.
Probably not anymore. It's been more than 60 years since the last atmospheric test and the remaining material has mostly decayed to something non radioactive or settled somewhere. The soil seems to capture a lot of the radioactive compounds, reducing the contamination that people get exposed to.
at the time yes and that's what this program is about, but now its unlikely that any radioactive particles are still around most likely in the sea now and there half lifes passed i have a bit of trinitite from the test area and its not very radioactive now barely above back ground levels
Born in 1960. Calgary Alberta. The bombs that gave me thyroid cancer were tested in 1962. My exposure came from the fresh milk, my mother gave to me.......
@@cmayo5659 No, the Hanford radiation releases stayed close to the ground, and did not make is to Canada. We got exposed to radiation from above ground bomb tests
Des pill given to millions of pregnant women to prevent miscarriage ( to protect from fallout????). Well, a long list of live changing, hard to endure illnesses followed the women, their offspring for 2 generations, and the worst of it 😢😢😢😢😢😢 it didn't even prevent miscarriage, nA long list of LIFE changing consequences.Iodine feed to cows had a list of illnesses as well❤❤❤May God have Mercy and Grace on us all. Father Son Holy Spirit Amen
remember the era of cattle mutilations?? those were military studies to determine the extent of damage to the u.s. population thru the largest source of protein for the nation. it also provided data to determine the amount of damages to be paid out thru the RECA program, which by the way ended this year. renewal of this program is stalled in congress.
As this very interesting, and well-made, documentary describes elevated bomb-test cancer victims, it’s rather ironic that one of the treatments for cancer* is radiation. (*i’m no expert, so don’t know if radiation treatment is useable in all cancers). On another note, it is alarming and sad when there are discoveries in ice cores where there delineation of before and after nuclear tests. The Anthropogenic Epoch is our legacy
Imagine if our innovation of that time had not been in defensive or War minded intention. Imagine if we had used that time and knowledge for something that would have sealed mankind's survival certian,rather then demise.
As far as the testing goes it was half-hazard and irresponsible even by what was realized at the time. As far as it's use to influence the early end of the war, that was the better of much more deadly options for all concerned and you'd have to familiarize yourself with that point of history to understand what an invasion of Kyushu would bring as consequences, as well As a total Naval blockade. It wasn't the worst weapon. Either of the aforementioned options would have been infinitely worse. And the carnage from the use of those weapons pales in comparison to the wider carnage in the Asian-Pacific theater of the war, particularly in the countries directly affected by Japan's occupation. Those are the verifiable facts by any measure.
Learning the truth of America's history leaves nothing to be proud of and that's really saddening. You'd think humanity could do better but, the few accomplishments get buried in immorality.
Not just the Pacific - every ocean in the world. Now it's mostly tritium from power reactors, but there's a few hotspots here and there from reprocessing facilities in Europe, old testing sites in the Marshall Islands, etc.
In Washington State the Government in 1947 sprayed iodine 131 from Granger Washington to Mabton Washington. All my aunts and uncles who were in that path all had thyroids troubles. In 2012 eleven years after my mother died her law suite with the government was settled. She was awarded $1,600. Lawyers took no money from the judgement because their fees would of been more than the awarded judgement.
In snowflakes az, we have so many down wind cancer victims, my sister was one, dozens of friends died of cancer having never smoked, worked with hazardous metals tec
We need to take a longer harder look at the entire area around oak ridge tennessee as well. My great uncle had a secret job at martin Marietta and died of multiple cancers at age 66. My mother died of multiple myeloma - extremely rare for women. We know oak ridge was careless with waste for decades - and has never been fully forthcoming about it
It is to hope that knowing all this, despiste the fact that there may be nuclear attacks similar to those that already happened against Japan, governors will be aware of the destruction to be caused and consider saving life and not only destroying an enemy. Isn't it so, that listening to dramatic and even tragic information like this we cherish what we've been given even more, and may choose to enjoy our blessings without hesitation or delay?! Be blessed! ✨🕊️🕯️🌿🌄
I read a German research paper, dated 1933 I believe, on radiation exposure. Most of the rabbits exposed to radioactivity died. The exception was those rabbits given an extract from Aloe. Aloe extract had antimicrobials. The evidence was there, people chose not to believe it. There is still a bias against biologists in academia. I know, I experienced it personally.
Antimicrobials have nothing to do w radiation. Radiation is not an organism, so aloe or any of it’s products would be useless just like your unsubstantiated comment.
We should have listened to Patton and taken care of Russia at that time. He was a maniac but he did get that USSR was going to be a problem 100% correct
@@wapartist We were on a time schedule with an upcoming invasion of Kyushu Japan to do (which two nuclear weapons played a big part in rendering unnecessary. ) Don't know if they even knew nuclear weapons worked when Patton said that. It's why we didn't go into Berlin. We didn't have the time or the manpower to spare. They were on the way to the Pacific lock, stock and barrel upon Germany's surrender. Had the invasion of Kyushu been necessary it would have taken all our resources and there was no guarantee that a war weary American public would have tolerated the attrition just of that. No way we could've taken on both. Hell we had a whole separate massive Lend Lease to the Soviet Union just for them to invade Manchuria and that also played a part in Japan's unconditional surrender. General Eighsenhower had a comprehensive world view and understood logistical realities that determine what's possible from what's not. Let's just say that General Patton did not.
@ i appreciate that response and very well written! Im not on expert on that stage of the war at all. Had just read that in a few places and agreed that would have been disastrous to even attempt to continue such a brutal global ordeal
I was born in 1954 in Farmington NM. I was born with extra rows of teeth and protruding lower jaw and scales instead of skin. We used to play in the beautiful glowing purple, red,yellow, or green snow. I was supposed to stay inside, but I snuck out to play in the snow and my skin was burning.
I have and my sister have Thyroid issues . I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 5 years ago . Thyroid pills are a joke too . We were downwinders of Hanford in Washington State . We were born in the 40 s and 50 s near Hanford
Bravo.........the trueth is that the fall out went all the way across america........ny.........ever one should personal testing device........u can use ur phone get app......
Poor "disenchanted" Oppenheimer. He designed the weapon that will very likely end civilization, and then had the audacity to name the first explosion after Christian poetry. Satan has nothing on him and his ilk.
The effects present years to decades later, and can affect future generations. The fallout gets in the groundwater and soil, and alters the environment for generations. Think about Chernobyl and what was needed to be done. Currently, is the Fukushima nuclear plant which was irreparably damaged during the 2011 earthquake. The cleanup requires robots today and it is known it will be hundreds of years before the area is "safe" again. A paper mill can be dismantled with fewer, if any, future ramifications.
Good point - living downwind of a paper mill has real implications. Paper mills are owned and operated by private corporations - a big difference. The US government conducted nuclear testing at home and abroad. The Marshall Islands continue to deal with the impacts in their homeland. The surrounding landscape suffers, beyond illness affecting human beings.
@49LivingtheDream I get that, I guess I was thinking that there's a lot more people exposed to pulp mill nastynest then nuclear fall out... and yes they are ALL sick and fighting against illness their whole lives... can't stop progress
Nobody heard of cancer before that,correct? People who want to hold all the power,seem to jump through hoops to prove that they have huge balls(egos) and make hasty decisions,just to prove their worth,I know that I have been put in that position(small scale compared to this stuff) but people really need to think long and hard,reach into their hearts and souls; and truly ask themselves...Is this of benefit to everyone,or just to my ego's climb to success...these questions are getting more and more substantial every day...are you as a human,willing to commit such atrocities on our earth,our country,our town - just to support an egomaniac with a score to settle with the world,because he felt unloved as a child? I truly hope the mistakes of the past,can remain in the past... Not relive it in a worse scenario...
I would say,that earth workers disturbing the inherent radiation that is lying dormant(or less active,because it is deeper in the ground- just might be at a bit higher risk.) I am not sure,but it seems like over time,the radiation would seep deeper into the soil,and with wind erosion,and the evaporation(humidity) and the condensation effect elsewhere(rain storms down wind,of which the entire eastern 2/3 of the country,is at risk...and it even may affect your gardens,your lawns,your water sources...so how is it possible,that killing generations of your own population; can be less important,than flexing your testosterone with some. nut bag across the world? Is it really that important,that we are overlords of the planet,or is it more important ; that we do what those assholes will not do- take care of humanity?
I am a downwinder. Born in Cedar City, 5-1953, and raised 7 miles north in a small town called Summit. I very much remember the broadcasts from the local radio station KSUB about upcoming tests and warned parents to keep the kids in for a day or two. And YES I was diagnosed with AML, leukemia in September of 2020. I'm very sure it was due to all those bomb tests and the Nevada Test Site. The people who dispute the radiation danger to health and blind or paid a lot to say different!!!!!
Edit: I had to have a Bone Marrow transplant and I am CLEAR as of April 2024. Praying for those who ware taken from us.
Did they not drop biological agents, in Cedar rapids?
Trixie dust? Repto Verde prototype?
I'm so sorry.
Years ago a Russian immigrant told me both governments hid the real dangers of nuclear testing from the people but the Russians having lived under Stalin did not trust what they were told. He said the Americans trusted too much. I pray you stay clear.
@dotorperiod very glad to hear you are clear.
So many people have suffered worldwide because of nuclear testing, and it is a disgraceful chapter of modern history.
All the best to you.
Peter Coyote is the best narrator EVER!!! 🤗
Sounds old.
@@donkeyslayer9879 82yo....so what?, haha.
Is this the guy from a lot of the Ken Burns Series?
@@ryanrutherford884yes and all of James Fox’s UFO documentaries like “I know what I saw” “The Phenomenon” and “Moment of Contact” which I highly recommend.. even if you are a skeptical person like me.. Moment of Contact is mind boggling.
It is free here on TH-cam
I thought it was Ken Burns, am i ever an idiot
I was born and bred in South Australia. Maralinga was 1 of the nuclear sites from British Atomic testing in the 1950-1960. I was exposed to fallout along with 1000’s of others. My mother died of cancer my sister died of cancer and I have thyroid cancer. I feel your concerns and pain.
Thank you for taking time to share your words. Very sorry to hear about this losses in your family. Take care.
Woomera.......
Dust storms were the worst.....
On this channel, you always ask for future video ideas. Can you please explain what was going on in Alaska, Western Canada, and, Washington during the cold War, yes, Cuba is close to Anerica, but Alaska is close to Russia. Were we not worried about being attacked from the northwest?
We need an Australian made, high quality, up to date documentary film about the deadly effects of the tests at Maralinga, the Marshall Islands (Bikini Atol), etc- widely distributed.
The potentially deadly effects of nuclear power (whether for use in bombs or for power generation) seem to have been all but forgotten, given the current suggestions of introducing nuclear power generation in Australia.
I'm sorry for your loss, and wish you all the best with your own health issues.
In the 90s I worked for a temp agency for a while. One of my assignments was working at a real estate seminar. One of the attendees was a Veteran that had been at Bikini Atole for the nuclear testing. He had cancer at the time and knew he had gotten it from the testing. Having had my own cancer battle, I can completely empathize with the Downwinders. 🕊️🕊️🕊️
50,000 was the population of Las Vegas during the height of the cold
war? Oddly, that was the population of the tri-cities near Hanford Nuclear Reservation at the same time--the 3rd largest city in Washington State, now a permanent deadly waste site. Hanford was where the plutonium was produced for the nuclear arms race. Decades ago, it was officially recognized that Hanford employees and tri-city residents had a higher risk of developing cancer due to the enrichment process and radioactive waste
The Atomic Energy Commission (later absorbed by the Dept of Energy) would legally drag its feet for years before paying restitution to the victims until (I believe it was the early 90's) a judge finally forced them to pay. The Government settled with the 5 people who remained...all 5 had cancer.
5 people remained? No, that's wrong. My mom & her siblings were down winders of the Hanford site. Her sister, my aunt, was involved in the lawsuit. She is still alive. She has had cancer. A few times.
@@lp88088 We in North Dakota have received nothing but more cancer. We were excluded from the Hanford ruling.
My dad was at the Nevada Test Site during Operation Tumbler-Snapper. He was in the Army Signal Corp and set up all the communications equipment in preparation for atomic detonation. He spent 2-3 months on site and was involved in two nuclear tests. One of those soldiers you see crouching in a trench. He said they received high doses of radiation while all the military brass and distinguished guests watched the blasts at a safe distance in air conditioned buses.
He was proud of his service, but bitter about being an expendable tool, not much different than the common farm animals tethered to posts out in the blast zone.
He passed at the age of 55 from Lymphoma. The only known member of his side of the family to contract cancer.
They sacrificed him.
I worked at Los Alamos for 8 years in the 1970's. I have cancer from my exposures there. I am receiving compensation, and the government is paying for my cancer care, but that would not have happened in the 50's or 60's.
What was your role at Los Alamos?
@@conzmoleman I was a staff member (scientist) and worked on radioactive waste isolation and geothermal energy.
@@Joey4rox Cheers. I was recently reading some employee testimonies about wildly unsafe practices at Santa Susana Field Laboratory / Rocketdyne. Open burn pits, just total disregard for employee and public safety. There are streets in Simi Valley where on one side you might find 3 of the same hyper-rare, one in 10 million cancers. Absolutely wild stuff.
If you type FINAL FORMER EMPLOYEE INTERVIEW REPORT SANTA SUSANA FIELD LABORATORY SITE into google you’ll get a fascinating report. The low ranking ex-employees are quite candid. The high ranking ones refuse to comment, or say very little.
One employee describes a technician routinely removing his dosimeter badge in order to run into the reactor pile and make an adjustment by kicking a piece with his foot because the robotic controls were finicky!
Sounds unbelievable @@Joey4rox
@@user-fi6qr8wb9u😂ok, it's the internet. My family worked several of the isotope energy projects out at the inl, and my grandfather before he died would tell you that him just like everyone else ended up with cancer or something similar if they made it to his age
My father died from cancer, my aunty died from cancer and so did several of my uncle's. How revolting this's. I was born in 1963 and was diagnosed with Hashimotos disease of my thyroid gland 30 years later
Both my parents died from cancer in 1986. Lived in Nebraska and Wyoming in the 50’s and 60’s. Fallout downwind was supposedly slight, but is there any “safe” dose?
@roslynweidemann9487 my mom was born in South Dakota in later 1940s she also got hashimotos thyroiditis.
@@pedrow9816no no no no no I know did I say no there's no level of safe nuclear fallout😢😢
@@roslynweidemann9487 me too
I wear a wig too. Mine fell out though
John Wayne's absolute worst movie was "The Conqueror". Can you imagine him playing Genghis Khan in dark-face and scotch-tape-slanted eyes, with that cowboy accent? Yes, this ludicrous farce was produced by the then-turned-insane ex-aviator Howard Hughes. Filmed with horses kicking up the fallout-saturated red desert sands just west of St. George, Utah, downwind of the Nevada tests. Cast and crew ended up suffering from (I think) at least three times the cancer rate compared to the rest of the USA. Wayne, a very heavy smoker, died of (apparently unrelated) lung cancer. But most of the rest involved in the on-site making of "The Conqueror" died early deaths from leukemia. The government never warned them of the known radioactive danger; no one ever warned them or owned up to the responsibility of exposure.
The cast and crew of The Conqueror’s cancer and death rates were perfectly normal for their time and demographics. Who would have thought that smoking like a freight train and drinking like a fish was bad for your health? The newspaper story that started the myth accidentally got the death rates for non-smokers from an actuarial and used it and didn’t get the actual death rates for heavy smokers and/or drinkers which counted for most of the cast and crew of The Conqueror. There is some evidence that some of the cancer types were different than expected though.
The cast was hesitant to film once they learned of the tests. So John Wayne gave a “patriotic” speech and said “I called the agency to ask if it was safe, and if government tells us its safe, then damnit its safe!”
He then said, “to prove it to you I brought a radiation detector here!” He turned it on and it immediately began to read an astonishingly high number of counts per minute. Everywhere he pointed it, the readings were as high as the scale would read.
Wayne said “the damn thing must be broken.” And so they the kept filming.
@@conzmoleman Who would accept the word of "John Wayne" on anything?
Almost two decades ago I started collecting vintage watches which introduced me to the study of radioactivity and radioactive luminous compounds and while my scientific fascination with this entire subject continues to this day, The use of dogs and other animals in direct exposure to the bast makes me both angry and sick.
Interesting, I wore a souvenir Russian watch that used to cause a burning sensation
I was crying when I heard that about the dogs and animals. Absolutely no reason for that!! They already knew the effects of radiation from Japan!! No need to be sick and sadistic on innocent life!! 😢😢😢
Wow!
PBSUtah you do good things by making documentaries such as this. It should be shown to as many people as possible as a reminder that as a species, we are often harmed by so-called "progress" and "technological advances".
I find some of the minimisation and downplaying of the risks to be quite disturbing.
I do wonder however about the ability, or rather the supposed lack of ability to determine causation. Some of the radioisotopes only exist as a result of nuclear fission, and perhaps these isotopes could be detected in human tissue, at least in the bodies of people alive during the periods of actual direct exposure, if not in their descendants.
Anyway, thankyou for making this.
My parents went to school in Henderson Nevada and they made the children stand on the playground and watch the mushroom clouds and wait for the hot wind. When the hot wind hit them, the teachers recorded the time and the classes could go back inside. My aunts all have weird cancer and my father is dead.
What a horrid thing to do to innocent children
I got a dose of the Utah radiation as a very young child. Then we moved to Washington. Grew up fairly close to Hanford. I don't have a thyroid any more.
@@steverelaford48 Nor do I. It was removed due to thyroid cancer before 32.
Excellent video, thank you for uploading the video
2,590?...nuclear weapons tested since 1945, in space, in the outer atmosphere, in the sky, on the land, underground, above and under the sea..all that haf no effects on the environment or health of any creatures.
I have lived with this story my entire live. I also lived through cancer. How do we deal with any of this when the only goal of the government is to deny any responsibility. Shame on them. The end lies in God's hands.
Thanks for share
The expert 5 minutes in recommends that claims be limited to the lifetime of the people who lived during the exposure. But for women their eggs were exposed and females conceived also naturally developed eggs that were exposed due to the exposure of the grandmother. So yes, these exposures can be expected to carry through at least 3 generations through female exposures.
This! Where can i get more information about this?!
My mom is a down winder. Her siblings have had cancer.
What has been passed to me?
What did i pass to my kids?
Bruce Church is either living in an absurd denial or he has been paid to deny the consequences.
Moving testing to the lower 48 was due to cost more than anything. Testing in the pacific was extremely expensive.
Well… we detonated almost *a thousand* nukes in Americas western deserts. Did we really believe there wouldn’t be health consequences?
HIM HAU ALL YOU WANT! PEOPLE WERE EXPOSED AND PEOPLE ARE STILL AFFECTED AND HARMED BY THE TEST!!!!
People labour under the illusion that the radioactivity stays where it falls. Everyone everywhere is affected by these explosions. It's blown all around the globe.Hiroshima, Nagasaki,South Pacific, Chernobyl, depleted uranium from Iraq and Afghanistan,it all blows around. In southwest England we have an phenomenon most winters when desert sand from Saudi Arabia is deposited across the southwest. During the invasion of Iraq in 2003 within days of the bombing starting we had sensors at Aldermaston picking up depleted uranium. It's no coincidence that cancer rates all across the world have been rocketing up ever since WW2. We're all affected.
Him Hau? What does that mean? Why all caps?
Don't forget to "Duck and Cover"
Even in first grade I knew that was a farce.
Really?
Dang, Peter Coyote knows EVERYTHING!
My father was a solder in a test during the 50s and had a claim with government and multiple cancers
So sorry to hear this. PBS Utah thanks your father very much for his service.
Never realized how much Peter Coyote's voice sounds like Kevin costner. I've watched numerous TH-cam documentaries and it's weird how many times it's Peter Coyote doing the narration😂
So true!
@@PBSUtah Costner is more nasally
How many tonnes of dust of radioactive heavy metals were spread in the environment ?!
100+ ?!
You'll need a very big + there
1000 tons or so I think. The first bombs were very large, heavy, and inefficient; they only burned say 2% of their fissile material. But the fallout actually got worse when they developed small high yield weapons because a much higher percentage of fairly stable material like P239 and U235 (fuel) was fissioned into highly radioactive daughter elements... Then with the thermonuclear testing you are talking many tons of material in a single device: shots like the Shrimp device used in the Castle Bravo test had a highly enriched uranium tamper that weighed over a ton all by itself, the design was immediately weaponized, and the bomb weighed 42,000 pounds US or 19 tonnes metric. This was typical of the weight of the first generations of U.S. and Soviet thermonuclear designs, the Mk-36 weighed 8 metric tonnes. All of these early, heavy, weapons, US, Russian, French, UK, yada yada were all atmospheric tested back in the 1950's.
These bombs polluted the whole world.
I been looking everywhere for this documentary lol I fell asleep watching it many years ago and always wanted to finish it
Glad you found it again! Best to you.
Man is his own worst enemy 😔 government is everyone's worst enemy 😉
At the very least, iodine tablets should have been distributed as a matter of course to the towns anywhere near the potential range of any fallout...but then that might have caused concern, further distrust, and panic, and we couldn't have that, could we?
When I was about 3and a half when I seen my first atomic blast at about 60 miles away. It was impressive. I viewed it like a firework display, and my reaction was: When I grow up I'am getting me some of those!
Wow, that's very interesting! Through the eyes of a child:).
Many in my state of North Dakota of my age have had thyroid cancer in our 20’s, much childhood illness & other cancers in our later age.
I have had cancer three times. Summertime Jet streams bring Nevada & Southwest air to our area. In the 1950’s drank unprocessed milk, the milk cows ate grass with radioactive fallout on it, while we were playing outdoors. Drank water from our well.
Any question why we have been identified as a “Cancer Cell” population by the medical community up here?
We were all exposed as wee children.
@marytompkins-bv2iw nuclear is only one nasty compound cows eat...
Living downwind a pulp mill will get you sick... same for mine... or even just a highway!
Can't stop progress tho... that's what's important...
If you haven't been completely disillusioned by the character of our government/military/intelligence activities over the past century I'm confident in saying you simply haven't been exposed to enough information yet.
In the late 70s, in a place called The Headbent Attic, I met a man who told me a story I could not validate until the internet was available. He said he was from Micronesia, an area of what is also knows as the Bikini Atoll. He told me his family's story. It made me ashamed to be an American.
Over the years, I assumed that the reason we brought the testing home was not convenience nor preventing espionage, but pressure from our cold war enemy, the USSR. So leaks to Stalin (or later, Khrushchev), not espionage, may have been the concern.
Possibly. In the late 40's we had Project Mogul , sending up high altitude weather balloons with radiosonde's attached. They could detect nuclear activity in the higher atmosphere, giving us a clue if USSR was testing their own nukes.
What few Americans understand is that the US Constitution in NO Way mandates that the Fed Govt is responsible for the Welfare of The People. FDR tried to change this with his proposal for an Economic Bill of Rights in 1945. However, he died a few months later and his proposal died with him. Notice that all food banks are stocked from private contributions, not the Govt. All the Homeless & Hungry People on America's streets today, while our Fed Govt sends billions to Ukraine & Jizrael should be proof enough that our Fed Govt bears no reponsibility for its own People. Long story short, given the above, I'm not a bit surprised that the Fed Govt Does NOT Give A $HIT about the Downwinders.
I know John McStain didn't. He promised to look into getting Mohave County in Arizona downwinder funds, but nothing ever came of it. All surrounding Counties get it but not us. We're about 100 miles away from the test sites. Obviously I never liked him but that's one more reason I call him McStain.
The welfare of the people is in the document itself.
Food banks are stocked with food from the us government!! Nuts, meat, dried or frozen fruit, so much else that i can't remember right now.
@@phil20_20 If that were so, then FDR's Economic Bill of Rights would've been redundant. What you must understand is that when the Constitution says "We the people" that only includes the White Anglo-Saxon Protestants (WASP's) who first settled this nation. The Constitution sees the rest of us as expendable rubbish.
@@Audioobscure I never see that here in Northern California, nor did I see that in a food bank in Ft Worth TX when I was a volunteer there around 2007. ALL that I've ever seen are charitable donations by supermarket chains. And if you did see Govt Food at a Food Bank, then rest assured that the Govt was under NO Obligation to put it there. It's tough to admit Whatta Big $ucker that you've been all along but I'm certain that you'll feel much better after you do.
Radionuclides also blew up into Idaho. Emmett, ID about 10 miles NW of Boise and for whatever reason was a concentrator. One of the reasons I decided not to move there. Kinda silly as this whole area was likely exposed to some extent.
I don't know how many years ago it was but I saw a documentary here on TH-cam about all the people that suffered in Central Asia and Kazakhstan during the Russian nuclear testing.
Links? Or Search terms. TY
@@ecouturehandmades5166 USSR nuclear bomb testing
The silent war on the citizen.
33:45 is the headline: they only tested when the wind blew to the least populated area, southern utah. Not one word about the 50k residents 65 miles away in las vegas!
Yeah, they didn’t test if the wind was blowing toward Vegas or LA.
@@sigsin1😂
Deplorable.
My uncle died of cancer after serving in the US Army with nuclear testing.
I’ve been a fan of Star Trek since I was a teen in the ‘80’s. It storyline says it took a 3rd world war & 1st contact with an alien civilization to eventually get humanity to unite as one people & quit fighting one another. I hope another global war doesn’t have to happen for humanity to come to its senses & stop destroying itself. We think we’re so modern & sophisticated but in reality we’re still barbarians with bigger sticks.
It’s madness that we poison ourselves as we did with atomic weapons & still today with unlimited pollution.
If there’s god out there, what must it think about how we’re so careless with this beautiful blue marble floating in the eternal blackness of the universe.
"I have become death. The destroyer of worlds."
Take a shower, maybe?
There is a lot they did not know then. Didn't seem to stop the process or bother anyone in power very much. Scary thought, though!
I think our repressive government knew all too well the dangers of radioactive fallout; they just wanted to avoid all responsibility. Unfortunately, they succeeded all too well.
We still operate under very similar criteria in more ways now. FDA CDC this was never a fair battle. My family lived in SD. Mom and sister born in late 40s both have had thyroid conditions. Parents both died of cancers on there 60s approximately 40 yrs after bombs.
Dugway Utah, was where My Mother was exposed 1952-53. She died of cancer in 1977😢. I don't know what kind. Dad was a nuclear chemist for the Army. We got? 🖕
Dugway
There is a book about the St George fallout called The Day We Bombed Utah by John G Fuller
We never did.
I came to the comments to see if anyone else remembered that book.
Kodak in Rochester new York was given heads up about secret tests. Ruined their x ray film production
IIRC Kodak notified the government after their film stock got contaminated by the airborne radiation.
Henceforth Kodak was notified when testing was to be conducted so Kodak could suspend production.
One snowy day Kodak measured something like 25x normal radiation levels. My grandparents were kids then and likely threw some radiation snowballs
Oppenheimer's hat was for fallout protection.
He died of throat cancer in 1967. Most likely due to the corrosive effects of chain smoking Chesterfields.
Is it dangerous to live in Las Vegas and the surrounding area? Only 65 miles away is scary.
no
@@reillydougherty2166yes it’s the most radiated place on earth
Over 100 nuclear blasts happened there
Why do you care?
Probably not anymore. It's been more than 60 years since the last atmospheric test and the remaining material has mostly decayed to something non radioactive or settled somewhere. The soil seems to capture a lot of the radioactive compounds, reducing the contamination that people get exposed to.
at the time yes and that's what this program is about, but now its unlikely that any radioactive particles are still around most likely in the sea now and there half lifes passed i have a bit of trinitite from the test area and its not very radioactive now barely above back ground levels
Unbelievable that "officials" from that time are still denying any culpability.
These men who talk like oh it is not harmful at all, have no bloody conscience to speak of.
Everyone worried about carbon footprint and really needs to worry about are chemical footprint 😢
Born in 1960. Calgary Alberta. The bombs that gave me thyroid cancer were tested in 1962. My exposure came from the fresh milk, my mother gave to me.......
Fall out from Washington State?
@@cmayo5659 No, the Hanford radiation releases stayed close to the ground, and did not make is to Canada. We got exposed to radiation from above ground bomb tests
Des pill given to millions of pregnant women to prevent miscarriage ( to protect from fallout????). Well, a long list of live changing, hard to endure illnesses followed the women, their offspring for 2 generations, and the worst of it 😢😢😢😢😢😢 it didn't even prevent miscarriage, nA long list of LIFE changing consequences.Iodine feed to cows had a list of illnesses as well❤❤❤May God have Mercy and Grace on us all. Father Son Holy Spirit Amen
remember the era of cattle mutilations?? those were military studies to determine the extent of damage to the u.s. population thru the largest source of protein for the nation. it also provided data to determine the amount of damages to be paid out thru the RECA program, which by the way ended this year. renewal of this program is stalled in congress.
As this very interesting, and well-made, documentary describes elevated bomb-test cancer victims, it’s rather ironic that one of the treatments for cancer* is radiation. (*i’m no expert, so don’t know if radiation treatment is useable in all cancers). On another note, it is alarming and sad when there are discoveries in ice cores where there delineation of before and after nuclear tests. The Anthropogenic Epoch is our legacy
Imagine if our innovation of that time had not been in defensive or War minded intention. Imagine if we had used that time and knowledge for something that would have sealed mankind's survival certian,rather then demise.
I like your way of thinking!
As far as the testing goes it was half-hazard and irresponsible even by what was realized at the time. As far as it's use to influence the early end of the war, that was the better of much more deadly options for all concerned and you'd have to familiarize yourself with that point of history to understand what an invasion of Kyushu would bring as consequences, as well As a total Naval blockade. It wasn't the worst weapon. Either of the aforementioned options would have been infinitely worse. And the carnage from the use of those weapons pales in comparison to the wider carnage in the Asian-Pacific theater of the war, particularly in the countries directly affected by Japan's occupation. Those are the verifiable facts by any measure.
Manifesting thier Destiny all over Earth🔥☢️💀
The USA opened the wrong can of worms
When 'experts' say there is no evidence what they are invariably saying is no court of law has made a relevant determination.
Learning the truth of America's history leaves nothing to be proud of and that's really saddening. You'd think humanity could do better but, the few accomplishments get buried in immorality.
At 31:33. Kennedy was elected in November 1960 and became president on Inauguration Day in January 1961.
Think of the Ocean itself. All of the pacific ocean has been the substrate for this self-destruction
Not just the Pacific - every ocean in the world. Now it's mostly tritium from power reactors, but there's a few hotspots here and there from reprocessing facilities in Europe, old testing sites in the Marshall Islands, etc.
It explains why Godzilla is so angry with us, doesn't it?
Yes. Exactly. This documentary of these human victims correlates directly to the oceans.... eyeroll
Ok......that's the above ground.......they did hundreds of under ground stuff......
In Washington State the Government in 1947 sprayed iodine 131 from Granger Washington to Mabton Washington. All my aunts and uncles who were in that path all had thyroids troubles. In 2012 eleven years after my mother died her law suite with the government was settled. She was awarded $1,600. Lawyers took no money from the judgement because their fees would of been more than the awarded judgement.
In snowflakes az, we have so many down wind cancer victims, my sister was one, dozens of friends died of cancer having never smoked, worked with hazardous metals tec
We need to take a longer harder look at the entire area around oak ridge tennessee as well. My great uncle had a secret job at martin Marietta and died of multiple cancers at age 66. My mother died of multiple myeloma - extremely rare for women. We know oak ridge was careless with waste for decades - and has never been fully forthcoming about it
It is to hope that knowing all this, despiste the fact that there may be nuclear attacks similar to those that already happened against Japan, governors will be aware of the destruction to be caused and consider saving life and not only destroying an enemy.
Isn't it so, that listening to dramatic and even tragic information like this we cherish what we've been given even more, and may choose to enjoy our blessings without hesitation or delay?!
Be blessed! ✨🕊️🕯️🌿🌄
I read a German research paper, dated 1933 I believe, on radiation exposure. Most of the rabbits exposed to radioactivity died. The exception was those rabbits given an extract from Aloe. Aloe extract had antimicrobials.
The evidence was there, people chose not to believe it. There is still a bias against biologists in academia. I know, I experienced it personally.
How was this given? Thank you.
Antimicrobials have nothing to do w radiation. Radiation is not an organism, so aloe or any of it’s products would be useless just like your unsubstantiated comment.
Move the testing to Bikini Atol ---problem solved. The Pacific Islanders no longer have their home but problem solved.
We should have listened to Patton and taken care of Russia at that time. He was a maniac but he did get that USSR was going to be a problem 100% correct
@@wapartist We were on a time schedule with an upcoming invasion of Kyushu Japan to do (which two nuclear weapons played a big part in rendering unnecessary. ) Don't know if they even knew nuclear weapons worked when Patton said that. It's why we didn't go into Berlin. We didn't have the time or the manpower to spare. They were on the way to the Pacific lock, stock and barrel upon Germany's surrender. Had the invasion of Kyushu been necessary it would have taken all our resources and there was no guarantee that a war weary American public would have tolerated the attrition just of that. No way we could've taken on both. Hell we had a whole separate massive Lend Lease to the Soviet Union just for them to invade Manchuria and that also played a part in Japan's unconditional surrender. General Eighsenhower had a comprehensive world view and understood logistical realities that determine what's possible from what's not. Let's just say that General Patton did not.
@ i appreciate that response and very well written! Im not on expert on that stage of the war at all. Had just read that in a few places and agreed that would have been disastrous to even attempt to continue such a brutal global ordeal
Very sad. 1990? I didn't know.😢😢😢😢
I was born in 1954 in Farmington NM. I was born with extra rows of teeth and protruding lower jaw and scales instead of skin. We used to play in the beautiful glowing purple, red,yellow, or green snow. I was supposed to stay inside, but I snuck out to play in the snow and my skin was burning.
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Dat's good acid
I worked on Trinity my job was to polish the subcritical Plutonium239 assembly.
I have and my sister have Thyroid issues . I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's about 5 years ago . Thyroid pills are a joke too . We were downwinders of Hanford in Washington State . We were born in the 40 s and 50 s near Hanford
Thank you for sharing your story.
The creation of the nuclear weapon stands as one of the human race’s darkest and most shameful hours.
annoying loud music
Bravo.........the trueth is that the fall out went all the way across america........ny.........ever one should personal testing device........u can use ur phone get app......
What? Lol. Are you saying there is an app for detecting radiation?
@@ArmedVapor yep.......they use the camera .......it's a tec school who invited it...........or just buy cheap detctor .....
I agree...
They found some real idiots to interview. Won’t blame nuclear radiation for anything!?!? Really??
Poor "disenchanted" Oppenheimer. He designed the weapon that will very likely end civilization, and then had the audacity to name the first explosion after Christian poetry. Satan has nothing on him and his ilk.
John Wayne making a movie in the desert there.
Same goes for living downwind of a paper mill... what so special about nuclear fall out specifically...
The effects present years to decades later, and can affect future generations. The fallout gets in the groundwater and soil, and alters the environment for generations. Think about Chernobyl and what was needed to be done. Currently, is the Fukushima nuclear plant which was irreparably damaged during the 2011 earthquake. The cleanup requires robots today and it is known it will be hundreds of years before the area is "safe" again. A paper mill can be dismantled with fewer, if any, future ramifications.
Good point - living downwind of a paper mill has real implications. Paper mills are owned and operated by private corporations - a big difference.
The US government conducted nuclear testing at home and abroad. The Marshall Islands continue to deal with the impacts in their homeland. The surrounding landscape suffers, beyond illness affecting human beings.
@49LivingtheDream I get that, I guess I was thinking that there's a lot more people exposed to pulp mill nastynest then nuclear fall out... and yes they are ALL sick and fighting against illness their whole lives... can't stop progress
there ain't no such thing " looke it up
I Thought They Started Testing In Late 44 - Early 1945?
(New Mexico)
It is extremely likely that you and I would not be here had we not taken the course that we did after world war II.
Don't let the liberals fool you.
Crimes against humanity. An American tradition.
St. George
👀👀👀👀👀Fool us once..... SHAME on YOU. Fool us twice SHAME on Us👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
Yes. If only we were speaking German now. Then we would have gladness in our selfish hearts
???????? what do you mean?
...and bratwurst up our butts....
The war in Europe was already over when the Americans dropped their nuclear bombs. Hitler was dead.
True, but people are still brainwashed about WWII.
The usual spuspects destroying everything they touch.
it's DESPICABLE how they are ALLOWED to get away with this.
Nobody heard of cancer before that,correct? People who want to hold all the power,seem to jump through hoops to prove that they have huge balls(egos) and make hasty decisions,just to prove their worth,I know that I have been put in that position(small scale compared to this stuff) but people really need to think long and hard,reach into their hearts and souls; and truly ask themselves...Is this of benefit to everyone,or just to my ego's climb to success...these questions are getting more and more substantial every day...are you as a human,willing to commit such atrocities on our earth,our country,our town - just to support an egomaniac with a score to settle with the world,because he felt unloved as a child? I truly hope the mistakes of the past,can remain in the past... Not relive it in a worse scenario...
I would say,that earth workers disturbing the inherent radiation that is lying dormant(or less active,because it is deeper in the ground- just might be at a bit higher risk.) I am not sure,but it seems like over time,the radiation would seep deeper into the soil,and with wind erosion,and the evaporation(humidity) and the condensation effect elsewhere(rain storms down wind,of which the entire eastern 2/3 of the country,is at risk...and it even may affect your gardens,your lawns,your water sources...so how is it possible,that killing generations of your own population; can be less important,than flexing your testosterone with some. nut bag across the world? Is it really that important,that we are overlords of the planet,or is it more important ; that we do what those assholes will not do- take care of humanity?
and they will do it again to us all.
Our government is disgusting! I’m embarrassed!
oh get a grip of yourself
those subtitles....... DISLIKED
Utah is gone have less cancer cause the LDS wont even let you drink coffee
but god bless america
22:27 Israel
thats why crazy is so prevalent ... i was wondering... america aint u proud
Tell em all bahh. They'll know what you mean.