Long term Tundra owner; currently own a 21’ TRD pro in Lunarock. I love this truck, I purchased it brand new and haven’t had a single issue. It’s not perfect but it does everything I need it to and more . Gen 2.5 for me, all around great trucks.
I’ve got the same truck in a double cab with magnetic Gray and 100% agree with you best truck I have ever owned. I actually picked my truck up from the dealership because I ordered it on the exact same day they announced the new tundra, and I remember everybody in the dealership was around one large television watching the announcement and I was standing there with them. After everyone saw the new truck one of the sales guy said “ That thing is damn ugly” and he said to me “you made the right choice not waiting”. Everyone then agreed.
07 Tundra sr5 4x4 has 310k . Everything works. I haul everything with it. I two track all day with it. It never stranded. I do all the maintenance. Best money I ever spent!!!
As good as that one sounds get a tundra with a Trd dual exhaust and you won’t even wanna run the radio you’ll just wanna listen to the sound of the greatest truck ever.
The 5.7 has issues. Cam issues and head gasket problems. The car care nut who specializes in Toyota and Lexus goes over this. The v6 isn’t blowing up because of an engineering flaw. It’s a manufacturing issue and is being handled. And there are quite a few tundras running around with over 200k with no issues. This isn’t the first Toyota to have problems and it won’t be the last.
Head gasket issues can show up on the 5.7. Comes down to maintenance though, some people think antifreeze never needs changed. That leads to the Head gasket issues
@@jmard24 Virtually none of the 5.7 have those problems, they only occur when u don't do the proper maintenance. Just like the Car Care Nut Said, a car breaking because you don't do maintenance will happen to any vehicle. 5.7 is now also a million mile engine.
I’m curious, everyone comments on how old Toyota’s 5.7 V8 was prior to moving to the turbo V6. They used this amazing motor from 2008-2021. That’s 14 years. But I’ve never heard anyone comment about GM/Chevy having out dated motors. GM is still using their 5.3 V8 that came out in 1999 and their 6.2 that came out in 2007! For the 5.3, that’s 26 years!!! And all they’ve done is tweak it to make it less reliable through active fuel management, which has in turn led to an active class action lawsuit against GM because of how unreliable they’ve become. So dumb!
I'm rocking my 1993 T100 with 743,211 miles forever. When I saw they changed the name to Tundra I said no way pal, I wish they'd bring back the T100, it just worked and never broke down! I am gonna have to change the oil soon though.
To clarify some misinformation you presented, that v8 Tundra is the 2.5 Gen (2014-2021).. They updated the interior and made minor changes to Frontend and body panels. *Those wheels are Tundra T Force 20”, designed by Fuel Wheels and only available on the TSS edition (only sold in the gulf states!)… *The walrus Frontend you mentioned was only on 07-09, they improved it on 2010-2013 making it look better..(Gen 2). Unfortunately, though Toyota has decided to destroy its reputation of quality, longevity and reliability. What a disappointment the Gen 3 has become even after 4 years. Broken drivers seat plastic, broken volume knobs, rattling interior parts, a plastic bed they call Composite to make it sound strong (composite is Plastic fyi). Failing turbos and now 100k recalled engines that will likely increase to include the 2024’s. It’s sad and Toyota has basically screwed their base, their loyal repeat customers. To not offer the v8 as an option is ridiculous when when other companies offer a v8… The 3rd Gen is imploding and ruining the Tundra brand. In closing, the Tundra was equipped with the 4.7 and 5.7 v8’s Both have done a Million Miles!!! Show us a turbo gas engine that has done a million miles on its original turbo(s).
@@DoneDeal2 That emission standard you mention doesn’t mean they have to stop building the v8, many people are misinformed regarding that. Manufacturers will have to build a certain amount of vehicles with ultra low or no emissions like EV’s to continue to receive government subsidies credits etc. That’s why other manufacturers still offer the v8. Toyota could’ve done the same but chose not to. It’s a misunderstood regulation that will be reversed with the new administration because the EPA has too much power.
The tacoma is the same, too. I had a Gen 3 trans went out at 62k, and they wouldn't even give me any assistance. 7k to fix the transmission. I traded for a 24 Ranger Raptor.
As a owner of 6 Toyota tundra trucks i like things about the new one vs the old one. I have a 2024 tundra trd pro with a pano roof. I love the power but not a fan of the sound. It's not a very good looking truck but i do like the technology vs last one. It's very cheap feeling inside and has wind noise inside at speed. The back bump is totally worthless when the tailgate is down. I gave the truck to my wife and got a new Silverado zr2 1500. Can't believe the gm is a much better truck then the new Toyota.
I heard from a Lexus mechanic that Toyota is coming out with a turbo 5 liter v8 in ‘26😁. We’ll see. I have a base ‘08 5.7 4x4 that I bought in ‘23 and the first real 0-60 run I did in it I did 5.6, so I think the previous owner did upgraded cams. After putting 35” K02’s and a 3” Icon lift it did 7.8 seconds and I can shred the 12.5” wide tires
I have a supercharged 2013 trd single cab tundra 5.7l. ~515 hp ~550 ftlbstq. This combo in this truck will never be bested, and only fanboys huffing the copium will try to argue that the new tundras are better.
I drove my 2023 TRD Offroad for 30k miles before i sold it never had any issues. Towed better, way faster, better mpg, and it had an actual rear locker. The 2nd gen v8 sounds better but my TTV6 sounded awesome with the Carven cut and clamp muffler and that 10 speed made those shifts so crisp!
Agree on the locker...but a new truck would be 20-30k out of pocket...f/r e-lockers and regearing for my 2018 w 35s will be about 6k. That leaves 20k for guns, motorcycles, boats, quads, hookers, blow etc
I still own my 2011 crewmax 4x4 base model, no bells or whistles other than 4wheel drive and I freakin love that truck Bought it for 34thou brand new, to go out and pay double that, crazy! I never hear anybody complain about sitting in the back, leg room for days and the seat can be adjusted forward back and tilt
This is why I am riding my 2020 Tundra TRD Pro till the wheels fall off. I just hit 90K on it this past week. The other thing you failed to mention is the huge price increase from the last gen to the current. For some long time Tundra owners you may have priced them out. Or at the very least gave them a reason to hold off a bit longer.
I had a 2020 - and I have a 2024. the 2024 has a better ride... and better steering, and better tech (but basically useless once your 1 year free connective subscription runs out), and better seats,, and a better bed and tailgate... but the 2020 had a better engine, longer range with the 36 gallon tank (range is more important to me than 2 MPG difference), and a better feeling engine (I miss my revs) and More rugged feeling materials. the 2020's back seat was limousine sized. Both came from factory with puny tires. Both lane departure and radar cruise is average at best (same tech as my middling Lexus has). Both have crappy 4WD systems (no auto), and both were TRD Offloads that could only diff lock in 4WL... all in all, I wish I wouldn't have traded in my $49K sticker 2020 for the $62K sticker 2024 (SR5 TRD Offroad) - I wish I would have kept the 2020 and moved in 2025 to another V8 (probably Chevy Trail Boss with the 6.2 or a tremor with the coyote)... My 2024 hasn't been recalled yet, but I expect it to be... I would think about a new Tundra, with the same chassis, 1.5 inch more lift, true 35 inch tires, and a 5.7L V8 with port and direct injection and the 10 speed. That engine would be almost 500HP and 450 FT/LB or torque. A monster.
I have the 2020 SR5 which is my 2nd tundra. I found a few add-ons on Xtreme terrain. It also came with Rino liner as well as a 38 gallon fuel tank which you didn't mention in your review. I also put under seat storage from Xtreme terrain. Drivers seat is powered and I added power tailgate lock and remote start from Start X. Everything added was plug and play
Still love my 2019 CM SR5. The issues with the new truck have me glad I never thought about trading it in. I don't need all the toys in the new truck, and the fuel economy savings aren't enough to convince me to make that change.
I love my 24 off road . Also I thought the second gen had issues as well in the beginning. And as far as frames on the Tacoma yes they fixed but they were sued first lol
Own a 3rd Gen and it has been a great truck. Super comfortable ride with plenty of power. It’s not perfect but overall the pros outweigh the cons throughout nearly two years of ownership. Not thrilled about the engine issues but appreciate that Toyota is taking responsibility for the problem with the recall. Among all the new full size trucks out there I don’t think any particular brand is much more reliable than the next when it comes to the gas powered options. Could make an argument for the Titan but that is no longer being produced.
21 voodoo blue limited trd off road. Love it has a little bit of modern features like apple carplay but still reliable. Had a 23 limited trd also and still prefer the 2.5 gen.
I traded in my 2014 Toyota Tundra for a new 2024 Tundra in hopes of better fuel economy. I am surprised it is barely any better. It does have more power but I do not need the power, I want the fuel economy to be better. It is also making a funny noise from the engine compartment and I hope it does not need a engine replacement like the 2023 models.
I own a 2021 TRD Off Road like you tested and love the truck. As you said never a hiccup with this or my prior Tundra. If I had to replace it today, I would buy a 2025 model equipped the same way. What I find interesting is just a guess, but if you add up camera minutes/seconds for each vehicle tested in your video, the older model won by a landslide. I think that is just a subconscious thing on your part validating how much you all really like the old model. 😁
The only thing I would say differently about their recommendations is I would recommend the hybrid if you plan on towing. The hybrid motor makes it great gap filler and pretty much gives you the same feel as a diesel when towing.
I love the Tundra. My father had a first generation he ran for over 200k miles and that was on the original timming belt. He was very sick at the time of owning it in the final years and he just never bothered to have the belt changed due to no money (cancer). It never broke down on him, the V8 had plenty of power, it drove great, it was not too big, and it looked great. I have always wanted a Tundra of that year because it reminds me of my father, but they're hard to find with lower miles and for a good price. The ones with low miles are way too much and I would rather put that money down on a newer Tundra or even a brand new one. I am in the market later this coming summer, maybe sooner. The Tundra is high up on the list, but the last generation is what I'd rather have for the V8 alone. However, I am more than willing to look at the new generation and seriously consider it.
Toyota rarely factors in tall people into there vehicles and the older version might be reliable but I found your fuel bill can easily match or out do a possible major repair bill depending on where you live and the fuel prices.
I own a 2018 Limited Crewmax 4wd with the TRD off road package. 80,000 Trouble free miles. Tows my 31ft camper well and everything else I ask it to do.
Here's the thing, Toyota may fix the engine problem so they're not detonating with 10,000 miles on the motor, however, these motors will almost certainly never reach the longevity and reliability as the previous generation. People that know engines will all tell you the old saying that everyone is sick of hearing, "there's no replacement for displacement". Well guess what? It's actually true.
Ive had 2 @ 5.7 tundras. They are solid trucks tnat tow well, but get crap for fuel mileage (18hwy and 9tow). Bad mileage is due to the truck being so huge and super low gearing (4.1 or 4.3?) I now have a tuned cc 4x4 23 f150 with the 3.5 eb. Its now my favorite truck (5200 lbs) with about 550 whp and high 3s to 60 and 25 mpg hwy (11ish mpg towing 7k camp trailer) . I know that I should probably get rid of it before 100k though. Turbo vehicles are generally very easy and cheap to get lots of extra power vs 10k+ to supercharge a v8 the right way. Ive owned tuned diesels and every half ton (except the nissan) in the last 10 years. I actually considered the new turbo tundra when I bought the ford.
Great review! I would get the previous generation tundra with its 4:30 rear end and V8. Current gen tundra’s turning radius is worse. I wouldn’t mind getting one but I’m waiting to see how the turbos hold up. Toyota needs to give it to that guy that has 2 previous gen tundras with a million miles so he can try and get those turbos to a million miles.
My only issue is the new gen Tundra is they are butt ugly. I've tried to like it, and some that have been modified a little with wheels and tires have made me take another look, but overall I hate how it looks. I also felt that way about older Tundras too though at first. I have a 1st gen now and love it so much, but I kinda need something that'll tow better. Been looking for a 2020 or 21, but having a hard time finding exactly what I'm after. I had a really nice Ecoboost F150 and really loved how it towed and everything, but had to sell it during the pandemic and bought the Tundra for what I got out of it. Had issues with the cam phasers though.
Oh, I've seen them, but they're gone before I can get to them. I want a Double Cab, don't want that 5.5' bed and I don't need a big back seat. The DC seem to be really hard to find.
Sorry They’re not ugly and you’re way off base imo when I’ve seen them in person and drove in one for 2 weeks on vacation. It was a 2022 moded Silver Capstone with a wrap and lifted with bigger tires. It was my buddies truck. I believe we had at least 8 or 9 individuals come up and commented how it was one of the best looking trucks they’ve ever seen. My buddy said he’s easily had over 50 people tell him that and it’s almost embarrassing. Also if they’re so ugly why are they selling better than they ever have especially with all the reliability issues they been having? Because they’re not ugly and the majority of potential new buyers like the way they look.
I believe the downward spiral for Toyota Tundra trucks began with the refresh in 2014, and this 3rd generation truck has only made matters worse. I have two 2002 4.7L Tundra, one 2006 4.7L vvti Sequoia and a 2007 5.7L Tundra. All 4 are excellent rust free vehicles and the only one that has had major issues is the '07 5.7L, one or all three of the previous owners failed to change the oil & filter ever 5k and they also failed to flush the cooling system ever 5 years or 50k, this resulted in a blown head gasket and cylinder wall scoring at 315,000. It's back on the road with a refreshed low mileage used 3UR-FE
The only things I dont like on my 18 Dbl Cab SR5 are the MPG and no factory available locker. Any new truck, same version, would cost 20k-30k out of pocket after trade in...would never even consider it.
@@andrewsavagetrapana3850 The n/a truck is tuned, it has a free flowing cat-back that actually increases tq & hp a bit and the motor is a low mileage 3UR-FE that has been refreshed. Weighing in at just shy of 5,000 lbs, it's also the lightest 5.7L Tundra ever made and the 4.30 gear in the rear launches it quickly.
Bro you're a big guy we get it. If you're somewhat comfortable that's a win for Toyota. The majority of humans on earth are not 6 foot 3 and weigh 300 lbs. You my friend are a minority in this department.
The generation two Tundra has a better engine. It has better build quality. The transmission has proven reliable. It’s overall a simpler design that’s proven reliable over the long haul. What other gasoline truck has gone over one million miles on the original transmission and engine? What’s more important in a pickup truck, performance at the drag strip or knowing that it’s more than likely to last year after year without spending thousands on major repairs. A little problem with the motor? Really? What do you call a major problem? I’ve seen a new Tundra with the cab off at a dealer. Didn’t look that minor!😂
‘I prefer the one that is least reliable due to widespread catastrophic engine failure issues’. Good lord you guys are everything that’s wrong with the modern truck market.
Here’s what makes no sense in the truck world. Nissan titan. Super reliable v8 they have used forever. I get 20mpg. In my 2021 titan. It just doesn’t have any cult following. Guys go buy a titan sv for 40-45 grand and have a much nicer truck than the older tundra
No, they should just select a range that is broader for more individuals. The current gen tundra and Tacoma have the range for taller and shorter drivers. It’s just a choice that Toyota didn’t make in previous generations.
NO RATTLES @ 5 YEARS OLD!!! Really, it has 53k miles and it's been in the south, it better not have rattles! I bought my 2009 GMC Sierra SLT Crew cab in 2017 with 58K on it, so 8 years old, and it had NO RATTLES, and I'm from Michigan, the pothole capital of the world! Now to be honest, I bought it 4 .5 hours from my house in a town on the border of Iowa/ Illinois , but still in the rust belt and pothole alley!
My 2007 FJ Cruiser is sitting at 150,000 miles, its mainly used as an offroad trail rig constantly blasting over washboard roads and boulder bashing. No rattles. Old Toyota build quality is naturally rattle free but the new gen Tundra rattles off driving off the showroom floor and if you dont believe me, go test drive a couple of them.
My 21 has been bulletproof . BUT ! Theres been known issues with the v8. Head gasket failing specifically coolant passageway , timing chain tensioner issues, emissions air pump failing. All which can be thousands in repairs. Knock on wood 🪵
that dude is just looking for something bad to say against the older tundra.....wa wa wa.....rear doors too big, front driver seat seating not big enough......quit complaining. Not everyone is a giant like u
I’m keeping my 2019 Tundra 1794 Edition till the wheels fall off! Simply can’t beat the V8 and this new 2022 or newer is an absolute abortion! POS! Toyota should be ashamed of themselves for releasing that and Mike Sweers should be fired for designing an ugly embarrassment to Toyota. had a perfectly good engine and fucked it up!
These guys 0-60 should have run tow haul button on both tundras, which they didn't. Showed up on my youtube algorithm and watched this poor review. You only get one shot with me. Blocked as not interested in this channel.
Just for reference, we test off camera all drive modes (including tow haul) and present the best number in the episode. Which is what we did here. Tow/Haul just wasn’t the fastest way to 60 with these trucks. Thanks for watching and commenting.
The tundra is the truck for guys who dont know anything about trucks but just thinks he needs a truck and wants a Toyota because his wife drives a camry. Toyota really just copied Ford on the first 2 generations and made everything bigger to make men feel more manly, but the interiors have always been a lot cheaper and lower quality. The previous Tundras weren't very good but they were reliable, the new Tundra isnt good period.
I grew up with Fords in my family, rebuilt many 302's, 351 clevland, 460's and my dads 428CJ Mach 1, I know my way around a vehicle's. I currently own 2018 Tundra 5.7 since new, it's been a solid vehicle with no issues. The reason I bought it was it didn't have all the fancy bells and whistles like the competitors have, pulls and hulls what I need it to do, its reliable and built in the USA. Also I'm not worried about being manly, I grew out of that stage when I was in my 20's, how old are you?
I actually like the new Tundra. It's the first one where Toyota, acts like Toyota, and quits trying to be some wannabe poser trying to out American an American. Be yourself. You can San Antonio it up all you want, but you're a Japanese company. Tundra was like B-rad from Malibu's most wanted. Be yourself B-rad. Your rep is built on being practical, economical, affordable, reliable, efficient. These kinds of terms. Not muscle car, V8, NASCAR, smokey burnoff, mud boggin in my Z71. That's Merika chit. Nobody wants a Furd Fiesta, that's Japanese kind of stuff. Look I want V8 in my American truck, but in my Japanese truck I want sub-8 cylinders with bewst's. The new V6 is stout, especially in the IForce Max, and the 10 speed seems good, and from what I've seen is it's MPG's while not super great, is way better than GEN2's. It rides nice, is refined, looks good with the 20" TRD wheels, they made it unique with things like a left side exhaust exit, I dig the composite bed, etc. The lack of recovery hooks was boneheaded, and for the $ you ask 4A should be included, but my biggest beef with the new Tundra is that things got a transmission hump in the back seat that would make the ones in a Foxbody or Fbody jealous. It's like straddling the transmission on a 8N or something. LMAO, WTF? This is the end of 2024, and these are expensive trucks, that are supposed to be spacious, comfortable, and practical enough for being a family hauler. That rear hump needs to be minimal, if not flat. Otherwise I like the GEN3 Tundra much more than the GEN2 Tundra.
I read everything you said and all I can think of is how there's either no proof of what you said, or how there is proof of the opposite of what you've said lol.
Long term Tundra owner; currently own a 21’ TRD pro in Lunarock. I love this truck, I purchased it brand new and haven’t had a single issue. It’s not perfect but it does everything I need it to and more . Gen 2.5 for me, all around great trucks.
I’ve got the same truck in a double cab with magnetic Gray and 100% agree with you best truck I have ever owned.
I actually picked my truck up from the dealership because I ordered it on the exact same day they announced the new tundra, and I remember everybody in the dealership was around one large television watching the announcement and I was standing there with them. After everyone saw the new truck one of the sales guy said “ That thing is damn ugly” and he said to me “you made the right choice not waiting”. Everyone then agreed.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Hell yeah you made the right choice! Never sell it.
07 Tundra sr5 4x4 has 310k . Everything works. I haul everything with it. I two track all day with it. It never stranded. I do all the maintenance. Best money I ever spent!!!
I own the V6 Tundra and it pulls really hard. But the V8 sounds SOOO much better!
Amen all around!
Hopefully you got the extended warranty when it has to be pulled back to the dealer with a blown engine..
I just dropped the TRD dual exhaust on my ‘21 Tundra Platinum, oh my the sound is righteous, esp when you get on it😊
As good as that one sounds get a tundra with a Trd dual exhaust and you won’t even wanna run the radio you’ll just wanna listen to the sound of the greatest truck ever.
Thanks captain
Twin turbo V-6 blowing up.
V-8 providing bulletproof naturally aspirated quality, reliability and longevity
The 5.7 has issues. Cam issues and head gasket problems. The car care nut who specializes in Toyota and Lexus goes over this. The v6 isn’t blowing up because of an engineering flaw. It’s a manufacturing issue and is being handled. And there are quite a few tundras running around with over 200k with no issues. This isn’t the first Toyota to have problems and it won’t be the last.
@@jmard24 Cope...
Love the v8 just wish Toyota would have tried to improve mpg.
Head gasket issues can show up on the 5.7. Comes down to maintenance though, some people think antifreeze never needs changed. That leads to the Head gasket issues
@@jmard24 Virtually none of the 5.7 have those problems, they only occur when u don't do the proper maintenance. Just like the Car Care Nut Said, a car breaking because you don't do maintenance will happen to any vehicle. 5.7 is now also a million mile engine.
I’m curious, everyone comments on how old Toyota’s 5.7 V8 was prior to moving to the turbo V6. They used this amazing motor from 2008-2021. That’s 14 years.
But I’ve never heard anyone comment about GM/Chevy having out dated motors. GM is still using their 5.3 V8 that came out in 1999 and their 6.2 that came out in 2007! For the 5.3, that’s 26 years!!! And all they’ve done is tweak it to make it less reliable through active fuel management, which has in turn led to an active class action lawsuit against GM because of how unreliable they’ve become.
So dumb!
Well said.
I'm rocking my 1993 T100 with 743,211 miles forever. When I saw they changed the name to Tundra I said no way pal, I wish they'd bring back the T100, it just worked and never broke down!
I am gonna have to change the oil soon though.
I owned 2 of those. Zero problems. Did everything. Looked good. Never broke. Led to me getting my 2018
To clarify some misinformation you presented, that v8 Tundra is the 2.5 Gen (2014-2021)..
They updated the interior and made minor changes to Frontend and body panels.
*Those wheels are Tundra T Force 20”, designed by Fuel Wheels and only available on the TSS edition (only sold in the gulf states!)…
*The walrus Frontend you mentioned was only on 07-09, they improved it on 2010-2013 making it look better..(Gen 2).
Unfortunately, though Toyota has decided to destroy its reputation of quality, longevity and reliability. What a disappointment the Gen 3 has become even after 4 years. Broken drivers seat plastic, broken volume knobs, rattling interior parts, a plastic bed they call Composite to make it sound strong (composite is Plastic fyi). Failing turbos and now 100k recalled engines that will likely increase to include the 2024’s. It’s sad and Toyota has basically screwed their base, their loyal repeat customers. To not offer the v8 as an option is ridiculous when when other companies offer a v8… The 3rd Gen is imploding and ruining the Tundra brand. In closing, the Tundra was equipped with the 4.7 and 5.7 v8’s Both have done a Million Miles!!! Show us a turbo gas engine that has done a million miles on its original turbo(s).
Very, very well stated regarding the genesis of Tundra…it is unfortunate that Toyota has ruined the Tundra brand w/ this 3rd gen garbage!!
It's the government's emissions standards causing Toyota to move in this direction. All other manufacturers will soon follow without a V8 option
@@DoneDeal2 That emission standard you mention doesn’t mean they have to stop building the v8, many people are misinformed regarding that. Manufacturers will have to build a certain amount of vehicles with ultra low or no emissions like EV’s to continue to receive government subsidies credits etc. That’s why other manufacturers still offer the v8. Toyota could’ve done the same but chose not to. It’s a misunderstood regulation that will be reversed with the new administration because the EPA has too much power.
The tacoma is the same, too. I had a Gen 3 trans went out at 62k, and they wouldn't even give me any assistance. 7k to fix the transmission. I traded for a 24 Ranger Raptor.
Composite isn't just regular plastic you chooch. They've been putting composite beds in the Tacoma's for 20 years without any issues. It's solid
V8 tundra all day
I have really liked my 2019 tundra, had it since new
I’d get my ‘21 Platinum, which is what I did several months ago - absolutely love it!!
As a owner of 6 Toyota tundra trucks i like things about the new one vs the old one. I have a 2024 tundra trd pro with a pano roof. I love the power but not a fan of the sound. It's not a very good looking truck but i do like the technology vs last one. It's very cheap feeling inside and has wind noise inside at speed. The back bump is totally worthless when the tailgate is down. I gave the truck to my wife and got a new Silverado zr2 1500. Can't believe the gm is a much better truck then the new Toyota.
I heard from a Lexus mechanic that Toyota is coming out with a turbo 5 liter v8 in ‘26😁. We’ll see. I have a base ‘08 5.7 4x4 that I bought in ‘23 and the first real 0-60 run I did in it I did 5.6, so I think the previous owner did upgraded cams. After putting 35” K02’s and a 3” Icon lift it did 7.8 seconds and I can shred the 12.5” wide tires
I have a supercharged 2013 trd single cab tundra 5.7l. ~515 hp ~550 ftlbstq. This combo in this truck will never be bested, and only fanboys huffing the copium will try to argue that the new tundras are better.
Been thinking about supercharging my 21. Wondering about longevity of engine though.
@@warg333 Have had the supercharger since I got the truck. It is now closing in on 100k miles, has only ever needed normal maint.
I drove my 2023 TRD Offroad for 30k miles before i sold it never had any issues. Towed better, way faster, better mpg, and it had an actual rear locker. The 2nd gen v8 sounds better but my TTV6 sounded awesome with the Carven cut and clamp muffler and that 10 speed made those shifts so crisp!
Agree on the locker...but a new truck would be 20-30k out of pocket...f/r e-lockers and regearing for my 2018 w 35s will be about 6k. That leaves 20k for guns, motorcycles, boats, quads, hookers, blow etc
I still own my 2011 crewmax 4x4 base model, no bells or whistles other than 4wheel drive and I freakin love that truck
Bought it for 34thou brand new, to go out and pay double that, crazy! I never hear anybody complain about sitting in the back, leg room for days and the seat can be adjusted forward back and tilt
This is why I am riding my 2020 Tundra TRD Pro till the wheels fall off. I just hit 90K on it this past week. The other thing you failed to mention is the huge price increase from the last gen to the current. For some long time Tundra owners you may have priced them out. Or at the very least gave them a reason to hold off a bit longer.
I had a 2017 tundra, sold it when I bought a 2020 4Runner ORP. Wish I kept the tundra too
I had a 2020 - and I have a 2024. the 2024 has a better ride... and better steering, and better tech (but basically useless once your 1 year free connective subscription runs out), and better seats,, and a better bed and tailgate... but the 2020 had a better engine, longer range with the 36 gallon tank (range is more important to me than 2 MPG difference), and a better feeling engine (I miss my revs) and More rugged feeling materials. the 2020's back seat was limousine sized. Both came from factory with puny tires. Both lane departure and radar cruise is average at best (same tech as my middling Lexus has). Both have crappy 4WD systems (no auto), and both were TRD Offloads that could only diff lock in 4WL... all in all, I wish I wouldn't have traded in my $49K sticker 2020 for the $62K sticker 2024 (SR5 TRD Offroad) - I wish I would have kept the 2020 and moved in 2025 to another V8 (probably Chevy Trail Boss with the 6.2 or a tremor with the coyote)... My 2024 hasn't been recalled yet, but I expect it to be... I would think about a new Tundra, with the same chassis, 1.5 inch more lift, true 35 inch tires, and a 5.7L V8 with port and direct injection and the 10 speed. That engine would be almost 500HP and 450 FT/LB or torque. A monster.
I have the 2020 SR5 which is my 2nd tundra. I found a few add-ons on Xtreme terrain. It also came with Rino liner as well as a 38 gallon fuel tank which you didn't mention in your review. I also put under seat storage from Xtreme terrain. Drivers seat is powered and I added power tailgate lock and remote start from Start X. Everything added was plug and play
I just put a LASFIT bed liner in my TRX. The thing is legit and was not expensive. It's much better than I expected, good products.
Hello guy's I have a 2020 tundra V8 is been loyal big time maintenance every 5,000 miles no problem at all!!!!
The old Tundra with the 5.7L I-Force V8 is a very well made truck
You should do 0 to 60 in tow haul mode with the 5.7.
Hah T/H (equivalent to a car using "sport mode" throttle and transmission mapping) makes the MPG go from bad to worse ...but totally worth it.
Still love my 2019 CM SR5. The issues with the new truck have me glad I never thought about trading it in. I don't need all the toys in the new truck, and the fuel economy savings aren't enough to convince me to make that change.
My o4 yukon has 260k runs great, never had any major repairs, just basic maintenance
I love my 24 off road . Also I thought the second gen had issues as well in the beginning. And as far as frames on the Tacoma yes they fixed but they were sued first lol
Own a 3rd Gen and it has been a great truck. Super comfortable ride with plenty of power. It’s not perfect but overall the pros outweigh the cons throughout nearly two years of ownership. Not thrilled about the engine issues but appreciate that Toyota is taking responsibility for the problem with the recall. Among all the new full size trucks out there I don’t think any particular brand is much more reliable than the next when it comes to the gas powered options. Could make an argument for the Titan but that is no longer being produced.
21 voodoo blue limited trd off road. Love it has a little bit of modern features like apple carplay but still reliable. Had a 23 limited trd also and still prefer the 2.5 gen.
I traded in my 2014 Toyota Tundra for a new 2024 Tundra in hopes of better fuel economy. I am surprised it is barely any better. It does have more power but I do not need the power, I want the fuel economy to be better. It is also making a funny noise from the engine compartment and I hope it does not need a engine replacement like the 2023 models.
I own a 2021 TRD Off Road like you tested and love the truck. As you said never a hiccup with this or my prior Tundra. If I had to replace it today, I would buy a 2025 model equipped the same way. What I find interesting is just a guess, but if you add up camera minutes/seconds for each vehicle tested in your video, the older model won by a landslide. I think that is just a subconscious thing on your part validating how much you all really like the old model. 😁
The only thing I would say differently about their recommendations is I would recommend the hybrid if you plan on towing. The hybrid motor makes it great gap filler and pretty much gives you the same feel as a diesel when towing.
I love the Tundra. My father had a first generation he ran for over 200k miles and that was on the original timming belt. He was very sick at the time of owning it in the final years and he just never bothered to have the belt changed due to no money (cancer). It never broke down on him, the V8 had plenty of power, it drove great, it was not too big, and it looked great. I have always wanted a Tundra of that year because it reminds me of my father, but they're hard to find with lower miles and for a good price. The ones with low miles are way too much and I would rather put that money down on a newer Tundra or even a brand new one.
I am in the market later this coming summer, maybe sooner. The Tundra is high up on the list, but the last generation is what I'd rather have for the V8 alone. However, I am more than willing to look at the new generation and seriously consider it.
Toyota rarely factors in tall people into there vehicles and the older version might be reliable but I found your fuel bill can easily match or out do a possible major repair bill depending on where you live and the fuel prices.
I own a 2019 1794 and will not ever buy another tundra, only thing wrong is Toyota's poor decisions on the transmission oil cooler delete. Bad move.
I own a 2018 Limited Crewmax 4wd with the TRD off road package. 80,000 Trouble free miles. Tows my 31ft camper well and everything else I ask it to do.
Here's the thing, Toyota may fix the engine problem so they're not detonating with 10,000 miles on the motor, however, these motors will almost certainly never reach the longevity and reliability as the previous generation. People that know engines will all tell you the old saying that everyone is sick of hearing, "there's no replacement for displacement". Well guess what? It's actually true.
Ive had 2 @ 5.7 tundras. They are solid trucks tnat tow well, but get crap for fuel mileage (18hwy and 9tow). Bad mileage is due to the truck being so huge and super low gearing (4.1 or 4.3?)
I now have a tuned cc 4x4 23 f150 with the 3.5 eb. Its now my favorite truck (5200 lbs) with about 550 whp and high 3s to 60 and 25 mpg hwy (11ish mpg towing 7k camp trailer) . I know that I should probably get rid of it before 100k though. Turbo vehicles are generally very easy and cheap to get lots of extra power vs 10k+ to supercharge a v8 the right way.
Ive owned tuned diesels and every half ton (except the nissan) in the last 10 years.
I actually considered the new turbo tundra when I bought the ford.
Love a good comparison! great video!
Thank you for this vedio, we need more comparisons
Great review! I would get the previous generation tundra with its 4:30 rear end and V8. Current gen tundra’s turning radius is worse. I wouldn’t mind getting one but I’m waiting to see how the turbos hold up. Toyota needs to give it to that guy that has 2 previous gen tundras with a million miles so he can try and get those turbos to a million miles.
@@fouUili684 Toyota won’t do that because they know it won’t get anywhere close to a million miles…
@@spinfish1434I believe they bought his older gen and gave him a 3rd gen
Buyers actually pay $400.00 extra for Black Out Edition 😅😂🤣
My only issue is the new gen Tundra is they are butt ugly. I've tried to like it, and some that have been modified a little with wheels and tires have made me take another look, but overall I hate how it looks. I also felt that way about older Tundras too though at first. I have a 1st gen now and love it so much, but I kinda need something that'll tow better. Been looking for a 2020 or 21, but having a hard time finding exactly what I'm after. I had a really nice Ecoboost F150 and really loved how it towed and everything, but had to sell it during the pandemic and bought the Tundra for what I got out of it. Had issues with the cam phasers though.
Literally "butt" ugly
Keep searching for that 20-21 Tundra, they’re available..
They are out there for sure, found a one owner low mileage, exceptionally clean, wind chill pearl, ‘21 Platinum in Wichita Falls.
Oh, I've seen them, but they're gone before I can get to them. I want a Double Cab, don't want that 5.5' bed and I don't need a big back seat. The DC seem to be really hard to find.
Sorry They’re not ugly and you’re way off base imo when I’ve seen them in person and drove in one for 2 weeks on vacation. It was a 2022 moded Silver Capstone with a wrap and lifted with bigger tires. It was my buddies truck. I believe we had at least 8 or 9 individuals come up and commented how it was one of the best looking trucks they’ve ever seen. My buddy said he’s easily had over 50 people tell him that and it’s almost embarrassing. Also if they’re so ugly why are they selling better than they ever have especially with all the reliability issues they been having? Because they’re not ugly and the majority of potential new buyers like the way they look.
I believe the downward spiral for Toyota Tundra trucks began with the refresh in 2014, and this 3rd generation truck has only made matters worse. I have two 2002 4.7L Tundra, one 2006 4.7L vvti Sequoia and a 2007 5.7L Tundra. All 4 are excellent rust free vehicles and the only one that has had major issues is the '07 5.7L, one or all three of the previous owners failed to change the oil & filter ever 5k and they also failed to flush the cooling system ever 5 years or 50k, this resulted in a blown head gasket and cylinder wall scoring at 315,000. It's back on the road with a refreshed low mileage used 3UR-FE
Am I crazy? I've never seen those wheels stock on any tundra
Those are in fact aftermarket wheels installed by Gulf States Toyota along with other adders like the sprayed on bed liner.
@TXAG81 gotcha that makes more sense. I don't see too many tss tundras
Love my V8. not sure if I will buy a V6
The only things I dont like on my 18 Dbl Cab SR5 are the MPG and no factory available locker. Any new truck, same version, would cost 20k-30k out of pocket after trade in...would never even consider it.
Should have turn on tow haul mode and turned off traction control for the 0 to 60.
We did.
I immediately traded my 2020 for a 2022 when they came out and hated the new model so much, I’m in a ford now.
What did you hate about it
Am going to take flak for this, but the now dead nissan titan
My 5.7L RWD 2007 regular cab short bed SR5 will consistently reach 60 mph in less than 6 seconds, and I would not buy a 3rd generation Tundra.
Best 0 to 60 is only 6.3 so I doubt it's pulling faster then that after 17 years but still a fast truck stock👌
@@andrewsavagetrapana3850 The n/a truck is tuned, it has a free flowing cat-back that actually increases tq & hp a bit and the motor is a low mileage 3UR-FE that has been refreshed. Weighing in at just shy of 5,000 lbs, it's also the lightest 5.7L Tundra ever made and the 4.30 gear in the rear launches it quickly.
2021 tundra TRD. CrewMax
Only 15.000 miles 😊.. my baby 👶
Curious as to why you don’t like the hybrids. I’ve been in both and the hybrid pulls WAY harder.
I get my tundra 5.7 to hit low 5 seconds with town haill on
Can you please 2nd gen sequoia vs 3rd gen sequoia?
V8 still the best option in the Toyota world
Stick with weather tech An American company
Bro you're a big guy we get it. If you're somewhat comfortable that's a win for Toyota. The majority of humans on earth are not 6 foot 3 and weigh 300 lbs. You my friend are a minority in this department.
The V8 lasts a long time, still haven't worn mine out. The V6 hasn't been proven yet.
Engine noise is simulated and piped into the cabin.
The generation two Tundra has a better engine. It has better build quality. The transmission has proven reliable. It’s overall a simpler design that’s proven reliable over the long haul. What other gasoline truck has gone over one million miles on the original transmission and engine? What’s more important in a pickup truck, performance at the drag strip or knowing that it’s more than likely to last year after year without spending thousands on major repairs. A little problem with the motor? Really? What do you call a major problem? I’ve seen a new Tundra with the cab off at a dealer. Didn’t look that minor!😂
If you get 200,000 out of the twin turbo v6 engine, you will be lucky
I’ll take the V8 over the turbos all day long.
3:51 Those are definitely aftermarket wheels
@@dubstylee444 Wrong, those are Tundra T Force 20’s (only available in the gulf state’s specifically for the TSS model)…
V8 all the way no compare for long term reliability
Can you shift here in Australia the tundra
‘I prefer the one that is least reliable due to widespread catastrophic engine failure issues’.
Good lord you guys are everything that’s wrong with the modern truck market.
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Toyota is replacing the engine and sales are through the roof. It’s not just these guys.
How many engines out of the 400,000 sold have failed, I though it wasn't many?
Here’s what makes no sense in the truck world. Nissan titan. Super reliable v8 they have used forever. I get 20mpg. In my 2021 titan. It just doesn’t have any cult following. Guys go buy a titan sv for 40-45 grand and have a much nicer truck than the older tundra
I'll take the v8
New generation is better than my previous tundras in every way. Old ones were good, new one is better
Lasfit does not make floor mats for the the 2007-2013 Tundra. Fail.
Biggest complaint about the older models and it’s kinda any one of them the cruise control is complete garbage .
My 2020 Platinum model has adaptive cruise control and it works great.
Buying a tundra after 2020 is REAL dumb
So the 6’4 guy is complaining stuff isnt made to fit him lol
Totally. 6-4 guy also feels like a full size truck should fit him.
So, should Toyota invest billions in producing a variety of trucks suitable for large and tall individuals?
No, they should just select a range that is broader for more individuals. The current gen tundra and Tacoma have the range for taller and shorter drivers. It’s just a choice that Toyota didn’t make in previous generations.
@ They are for the average person’s height and weight.
NO RATTLES @ 5 YEARS OLD!!! Really, it has 53k miles and it's been in the south, it better not have rattles! I bought my 2009 GMC Sierra SLT Crew cab in 2017 with 58K on it, so 8 years old, and it had NO RATTLES, and I'm from Michigan, the pothole capital of the world! Now to be honest, I bought it 4 .5 hours from my house in a town on the border of Iowa/ Illinois , but still in the rust belt and pothole alley!
My 2007 FJ Cruiser is sitting at 150,000 miles, its mainly used as an offroad trail rig constantly blasting over washboard roads and boulder bashing. No rattles. Old Toyota build quality is naturally rattle free but the new gen Tundra rattles off driving off the showroom floor and if you dont believe me, go test drive a couple of them.
Comparing 2.5 Gen to 3 gen in the same trim. 3 Gen interior isn't better.
My 21 has been bulletproof . BUT ! Theres been known issues with the v8. Head gasket failing specifically coolant passageway , timing chain tensioner issues, emissions air pump failing. All which can be thousands in repairs. Knock on wood 🪵
3rd gen all days!!!!
This 23 minutes video should be 4 or 5 minutes. What a bore.
that dude is just looking for something bad to say against the older tundra.....wa wa wa.....rear doors too big, front driver seat seating not big enough......quit complaining. Not everyone is a giant like u
Fyi Toyota "legendary reliability " is a myth.
Sounds like the interior was made for tiny Asians...imagine that
I’m keeping my 2019 Tundra 1794 Edition till the wheels fall off! Simply can’t beat the V8 and this new 2022 or newer is an absolute abortion! POS! Toyota should be ashamed of themselves for releasing that and Mike Sweers should be fired for designing an ugly embarrassment to Toyota. had a perfectly good engine and fucked it up!
I've owned both, the new one is a better overall truck. It's not perfect, hopefully they've fixed the engine issue.
They fucked up with that v6 BS
Talks too fast ...... can't understand most of what he says.
These guys 0-60 should have run tow haul button on both tundras, which they didn't. Showed up on my youtube algorithm and watched this poor review. You only get one shot with me. Blocked as not interested in this channel.
Just for reference, we test off camera all drive modes (including tow haul) and present the best number in the episode. Which is what we did here. Tow/Haul just wasn’t the fastest way to 60 with these trucks.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
You'll be missed.
The tundra is the truck for guys who dont know anything about trucks but just thinks he needs a truck and wants a Toyota because his wife drives a camry. Toyota really just copied Ford on the first 2 generations and made everything bigger to make men feel more manly, but the interiors have always been a lot cheaper and lower quality. The previous Tundras weren't very good but they were reliable, the new Tundra isnt good period.
Hot take from Ford fan boy
I grew up with Fords in my family, rebuilt many 302's, 351 clevland, 460's and my dads 428CJ Mach 1, I know my way around a vehicle's. I currently own 2018 Tundra 5.7 since new, it's been a solid vehicle with no issues. The reason I bought it was it didn't have all the fancy bells and whistles like the competitors have, pulls and hulls what I need it to do, its reliable and built in the USA. Also I'm not worried about being manly, I grew out of that stage when I was in my 20's, how old are you?
I actually like the new Tundra. It's the first one where Toyota, acts like Toyota, and quits trying to be some wannabe poser trying to out American an American. Be yourself. You can San Antonio it up all you want, but you're a Japanese company. Tundra was like B-rad from Malibu's most wanted. Be yourself B-rad. Your rep is built on being practical, economical, affordable, reliable, efficient. These kinds of terms. Not muscle car, V8, NASCAR, smokey burnoff, mud boggin in my Z71. That's Merika chit. Nobody wants a Furd Fiesta, that's Japanese kind of stuff. Look I want V8 in my American truck, but in my Japanese truck I want sub-8 cylinders with bewst's. The new V6 is stout, especially in the IForce Max, and the 10 speed seems good, and from what I've seen is it's MPG's while not super great, is way better than GEN2's. It rides nice, is refined, looks good with the 20" TRD wheels, they made it unique with things like a left side exhaust exit, I dig the composite bed, etc. The lack of recovery hooks was boneheaded, and for the $ you ask 4A should be included, but my biggest beef with the new Tundra is that things got a transmission hump in the back seat that would make the ones in a Foxbody or Fbody jealous. It's like straddling the transmission on a 8N or something. LMAO, WTF? This is the end of 2024, and these are expensive trucks, that are supposed to be spacious, comfortable, and practical enough for being a family hauler. That rear hump needs to be minimal, if not flat. Otherwise I like the GEN3 Tundra much more than the GEN2 Tundra.
I read everything you said and all I can think of is how there's either no proof of what you said, or how there is proof of the opposite of what you've said lol.
5.0 fords are complete junk, have fun with that pile of shit. 👌🏻