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I like how you handled China during WW2. The Nationalists did bear the brunt of the Japanese before the USA entered in. How much actual contribution did the Communist did when working with the Nationalists for a brief time is very debatable since alot of their claims are somewhat disputed and revised after the war with Japan. Nevertheless, the consequence by the Nationalists after WW2 is an over-stretched and exhausted faction combined with questionable actions that resulted in the alienation of its citizens led to an overwhelming Communist victory in 1946.
I find it interesting that conflict between Japan and China started in 1931 because the Japanese army in Korea quite literally went rogue. It would be like if the US army randomly attacked and occupied Chihuahua without any orders to do so from the Federal Government.
So glad this theater is being more recognized. This theater tends to be sidelined just like the African theater. I would recommend reading the "Forgotten Ally by Rana Mutter" it discusses China's role in WW2 on the nationalist and communists side especially the collaborationists. One thing that's for certain no matter your opinion Chiang Kai Shek has at least fought off the Japanese for a long time and they did help in many ways.
@@WorldWarTwo I would caution you about the sources regarding Chang Kai Shek. There's a lot of propaganda about him written by the CCP that was largely accepted as true until relatively recently. Although to be honest I'd say you'll struggle for many sources at all regarding the Chinese Theatre from 37-45
@@SEAZNDragon ironically enough after Chiang Kai Shek tried to destroy the communist at it's weakest. The Communists themselves were close to destroying the nationalist at their weakest after fighting the Japanese for almost 8 years. And while I have no love for the communist government I have to admire the fact that kept their promises.
@@zacherybarger6591 At the risk of being oversimplifying, I found in case where Communist revolutionaries were successful (China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba) the Communist may have infighting but remain committed to overthrowing their rivals. The non-Communists tend to allow their infighting to weaken them.
Seems more akin to a journalist than a historian though. I'm not a fan of the appeals to emotion they do like that. Present the information let the viewer decide how they want to feel about it. Pushing righteous zeal on the viewer always seems contrived and fake.
@@Madhattersinjeans very late i know but the series is called war against humanity. Its open with the fact its an oped. Just curious whyd you leave this comment in a video detailing japanese war crimes
@@x999uuu1 Because the speakers style is open to comment also. I'm just curious why you feel compelled to challenge his right to comment. Oh, that's right. Because it's an open forum. So glad you agree.
Another outstanding episode. For Americans, the Asian wars are largely unknown despite their scope and fundamental significance to the world struggle. Thank you.
I came across this War Against Humanity series just today when the episode on the French Resistance appeared in my recommended list. After watching it, I not only subscribed but also went to your channel, binge watched the entire series to date and am now looking forward to the next episode. As a major history buff I have to say you do fantastic work!
Are you going to cover more specific war crimes in China, since you have covered the Nanjing Massacre, or is that hard to come by? Also, are you going to cover resistance in Korea anytime soon since you mentioned it? Either way, pretty excellent presentation. Edit: By more specific, I mean akin to coverage in Poland in 2018 with content available for war crimes every week which could fit in one video. I know these are the two countries suffering the most under occupation right now as of this day.
We have made a Between Two Wars episode about the Second Sino-Japanese War in which we talk about Unit 731 briefly -> th-cam.com/video/_3vPGpamtDI/w-d-xo.html we'll cover other war crimes in china in later War Against Humanity episodes
@@WorldWarTwo Given Imperial Japan's use of Biological & Chemical Weapons against Civilians, the Japanese People were very, very lucky they were not Completely Exterminated. After all this is exactly what Imperial Japan would have eventually done to the Chinese if Imperial Japan had been successful... As far as using the Atom Bomb on Japan, this was done to prevent Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night, the use of Bubonic Plague on San Diego, San Francisco, etc by suicide planes launched from an I-400 Carrier Submarine. This would have killed between 1/4 of the population of the West Coast of the US and 1/4 of the World Population... Granted I would have chosen different targets had I been POTUS, as Tokyo Imperial Palace & Unit 731 in occupied China would have been much more appropriate. If the Chinese were informed that they needed to kill everyone injured by the destruction of Unit 731, and to create a permanent no go zone surrounded by a ring buckthorn Trees, Millions of Chinese would not have died from the Biological Weapons that were hastily dumped by Imperial Japan. And lastly, everyone involved in planning the & executing war: Emperor Hirohito & staff, all Japanese Officers implicated in War Crimes, etc. deserved their own "Nuremberg Trials" and Public Execution, instead of the limited trials that took place...
Soon, we will have to archive all these videos for actual education and not religate them to the niche corners of TH-cam. I hope Sparty and Indy get the recognition they deserve for their more in-depth coverage of the wars then you get in most history books in school.
So the atrocities of Japanese army against Chinese civilians ironically helped to create a unified resistance spirit in Chinese people. Much similar to what happened in German occupation of Russia
Chinese ( especially Han Chinese) were never know to be warlike . They were always dominated militarily and politically by more warlike Non Han people like Mongols , Manchu ( who founded Qing dynasty) and Japanese . These groups were much smaller numerically than Han Chinese but always dominated the much larger populous Han Chinese in every Military conflict throughout Chinese history . Even the last dynasty of China ( Qing dynasty) was not Han but Manchu ethnicity . Manchu are a warlike people who live in Northern China . Han Chinese and Koreans were more of Farmers and did not make good soldiers .
@@bobfaam5215simply wrong. Six out of eight major unified Chinese dynasty were han through and through. Yuan(the mongol empire) was a peculiar case as it simutanously conquered the majority of europe and asia at the time, but by the end of yuan their entire culture has been througly sinized. Qing was not particularly strong, and had arguably inferior army compared to Ming dynasty. It only took control of China because of a series of popular rebellion overthrew the central government, leaving a chaotic and fractured China at its weakest. Your notion of the "han" race constantly living under foreign occupation is erronous at best, racist argument at worst.
Military History Visualized had an interesting podcast where one of the problems with the Japanese military in China is that their military personnel who would bring up these plans for Tokyo to stamp for clearance wasn't their generals... but from colonels and majors - ranks of officers who had no business in grand strategy planning.
They say the Spanish republicans who had fled defeat in Spain were the ones who kickstarted French resistance since they had the experience. Read this - libcom.org/history/1939-1945-spanish-resistance-in-france
Although Nanjing is in fact spelled that way in pinyin (it means "Southern Capital" btw) Wade Gilles transliteration has it as "Nanching". Somehow it was transliterated most frequently as Nanking (possibly because of Cantonese?) so if you wish to research this particular war crime with mass rape and mass murder you should look for the keyword NANKING as in "Rape of Nanking" which btw was why the U.S. introduced the oil and steel embargo which led in turn to Japan's attack on the USA and Indonesia (they were out to steal steel and oil rubber too).
Am I the only one with 3 extra GoogleMaps tabs open on their browsers and pausing the video every 10 seconds to find these locations? I'm not complaining - I'm like Bilbo - I love maps!
Well done as always Spartacus! Always happy to see more videos on the largely overlooked Chinese front! If at all possible, I hope you can devote a video to interwar/wartime Shanghai which has a fascinating history as a spy center and the unique position of Jewish refugees in the city under Japanese occupation.
Sparty and crew, I must say you guys have done an excellent job in this episode on the War Against Humanity for China. Your presentation pretty much matches what my English parents saw in Shanghai (their base and eldest sister's birthplace in August, 1937 during a Japanese bombing raid, my mother's birthplace in 1914) during their residence there in the 1920's through Dec. 1941 (yes they escaped the Japanese to San Francisco between April, 1941 my mother and November, 1941 , my dad. Thank goodness they lived in "The International Settlement" Cheers for the SF Bay Area
My heart and love 💕 goes o the people of China and what they went though in this war, the fact they recovered as a people or nation at call is a miracle.
David Hollenshead or perhaps the victim of battery rationing... could also be turned off.., or broken, who knows, it’s caught in the fog of war and nothing is what it seems anymore.
Last January I went with my high school on an excursion to the Fort of Breendonk combined with a visit to the Dossin base in Mechelen. The disgust I felt while in the museum was silencing. The amount of stories that were told by the guides made you feel so close to the war against humanity that happened in those places. This is one of the reasons why it felt several degrees colder around and in the fort. I recommend those places for a future war against humanity episode. Are there simular systems like the fort and the base?
We know what you're talking about - when we were filming on the Maginot Line in April last year and when we visited Dachau Concentration Camp in November we experienced it as well. Spartacus grew in France in a time when even more of the installations were still around, both as ruins and just abandoned fortifications. That was part his inspiration as a child to start learning about the war. Above ground forts like Breendonk that were actually used defensively in WWII are quite rare. From WWI there were more of them, but they were heavily destroyed in The Great War and are mostly in ruins, or gone - a very, very emotional experience is to visit the Verdun Fort Douaumont, which was at the center off the extremely bloody 10 month Battle of Verdun in 1916, and saw further action in the war. In total over 700,000 people died on both sides around that fort. Douaumont was originally in the same style as Breendonk, but has been kept in the bombed out state it stood in by November 1918. Most of the fortifications of WWII were more bunker style, underground fortresses.
In its role as Nazi Prison Camp it was unfortunately only one of many. Several of the prisons, concentration, and death camps, a number fo which have been preserved as memorials - Dachau, Mathausen, and Auschwitz are now major museums, there are also several smaller museum in the old incarceration installations all over what was German occupied land. On the other side there are also incarceration centers used by the USSR in places like L'Viv that have been turned into museums after the collapse of the USSR - these stand witness to horrors perpetrated by the NKVD in the name off Communism that were not as much spoken of for decades after the war, as the Soviet Union refused to acknowledge them, and these places were then under Soviet control.
@@WorldWarTwo Did not see your 2nd comment 'm sorry but this is the info I found for you. On 10 May 1940 at 8.30am, King Léopold III, the Commander in Chief, arrived at Breendonk. He had been preceded by the first rank of the GHQ and the General Chief of Staff. It was from here that the King delivered his national proclamation on 10. May. It was also here that he received the commanders of the Seventh French army, placed on the right, and the British forces on the left, as well as General Billotte, the commander of the Group of Northern Armies to which the Belgian army reported as of 12. May. On 16. May, General Billotte ordered the abandonment of the Antwerp-Namur line, which had become untenable since the capture of Sedan. On 16 May at midnight, the General Chief of Staff left the fort; in the afternoon of the 17th, the whole GHQ was moved to the Ghent region. The SS Camp On september 20th 1940 Sturmbannführer Philip Schmitt brought his first victims to Breendonk. The Fort officially became the Auffanglager Breendonk, a transit camp; a major centre for the Sicherheitspolizei-Sicherheitsdienst (SIPO/SD), the german political police. During the first year of the Occupation, the Jews made up half of the prisoners. From 1942 onwards and the creation of the « vezammelkamp » (reception camp) at the Dossin barracks where the Jews were assembled before their departure towards the east and the extermination camps, most of the Jews disappeared from Breendonk, which gradually became a camp for political prisoners and members of the Resistance.
On the 22nd of September 1941, a first convoy of Belgian political prisoners was transferred from Breendonk and from the citadel of Huy to the concentration camp of Neuengamme close to Hamburg. Other convoys were to follow … Prisoners stayed on average three months at the fortress before being deported towards the concentration camps in Germany, Austria or Poland. The regime set up here by the Nazis hardly differed from that of an official concentration camp. The undernourishment and the forced labour wore down the body and mind. The ever-present physical cruelty sometimes caused the death of prisoners. Initially, the camp was only guarded by a few German SS and a detachment of the Wehrmacht. In September 1941, the Wachtgruppe of the SD arrived as back up. This time, these were no longer German SS but mainly Flemings. In total, around 3500 persons, including around thirty women, were subjected to the “Hell of Breendonk”, as Franz Fischer calls it in his memoirs. Around half of these 3500 did not come back from the camps alive. source:www.breendonk.be/EN/index.asp?ID=History I would reccomend it to use it in a special episode where you follow the steps of the Jews and recistance fighters to concentration camps.
Thanks for a well done video Sparticus. While watching I started looking at the pictures in the background and was surprised to see the White Rose Resistance there. I doubt if many people today have even heard of them but their story needs to be told and inspire other generations. (hopefully without the same results they had)
I'll cover them all right - a bit early now. Hans is in the Wehrmacht, serving as medic. He returned a few months ago from the campaign in France. He's currently reading books on pacifism, and philosophy while listening to Thomas Mann's clandestine radio broadcast calling for passive resistance. All of which is forming his path towards resistance. Sophie just turned 20 and is currently enrolled in the Reichsarbeitsdienst, where she is making the direct experiences with Naziism that will lead to her decision to join her brother and rally their friends into the Weiße Rose a year from now. They are to me and should be to all of us unforgettable. Why I also keep their photo in the set, together with Hans Oster who I will soon cover in a bio special that we recorded last shooting session.
@@spartacus-olsson I read an article about them 25-30 years ago and that is the only time I have ever heard about them but I guess the article left a bigger impression on me than I realized at the time because I recognized the picture immediately, so for me I guess they are unforgettable to me as well. Keep up the good work.
@@korbell1089 there's a really good German movie about Sophie's last days from 2005 - highly recommended if you're up to watching German with subtitles. Trailer here th-cam.com/video/x14U3R3-dFE/w-d-xo.html You can see if you can get it in your region on Amazon at imdb www.imdb.com/title/tt0426578/
Even some of the collaborationist units and militia units that were supposed to fight the Chinese guerrilla units ended up rebelling against the Japanese formations
Some units were used to fight local rebel groups or to support anti partisan operations but that was rare and the IJA kept them poorly armed to keep them from being too independent and due to shortages
Also, it's not placing personal interest over the whole if you don't see yourself as part of a "whole". A sense of national unity doesn't exist naturally, it has to be created or grow. If it's the same to you if the Japanese foreigners or some foreigners from Southern China occupy your region, then there's no intrinsic reason to prefer one over the other.
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Chiang's impotence is partly responsible for the mass collaboration after the outbreak of second Sino-Japanese War. His unification of whole country by late 1920s was nominal (at best), as those warlords were only pacified by the might of Chiang's German trained/equipped central army. Once those forces had been summarily expended in the brutal Battle of Shanghai, there was nothing left at Chiang's disposal to bound these warlords who had more loyalty towards money/regional power than the Generalissimo himself, and they started collaboration w/ Japanese soon afterwards.
@ I'm not denying Chiang's vision (He's certainly more insightful than the collaborative Wang Jingwei by setting communists than the Japanese as the archenemy), but the contradiction between his indulgence in power and his weakness in domestic (which improved after he fled to Taiwan) and diplomatic affairs makes him a leader vulnerable to attacks. Just to make a point.
The "Iron Edelweiss on blue band" awarded for "bravely educating history to the people on the oher side of the internet from the mountainous region of Bavaria" 😎
Well, thanks. This was the greatest mystery of this episode for me. I thought it being either a mini-Pour-le-Merit or better, a eight legged Chaos Star. Both equally badass. Anyways, get well soon Spartacus...
The "Strategic Hamlets" sound pretty much identical to what the US did in Nam. No surprise given that they were basically facing the same task, the pacification of an enemy guerrilla force with either potential or realized popular support in local areas.
The "Strategic Hamlets" strategy was successful during the Malayan Emergency tho, communist activity fizzles after the British colonial authorities put the Malayan Chinese community into these hamlets to prevent them from supporting the communists. Over the next decades, these hamlets developed into thriving prosperous communities that locals called 新村 or new villages.
on the one hand, I want somebody to fix Sparty's glasses (just behind the ear you know, if you bow that a bit, it'll stay) on the other hand, it wouldn't be Sparty without pushing the glasses up once in a while (from one Brillenträger to another, just casual stuff) besides this: thank you for showing the war on all it's front, also on the ones that are overlooked easily. you and the whole TimeGhost / WW2 team are doing a great job!
Thank you! I think I've tried everything with my glasses, but somehow my nose and ears are physiologically incapable of cooperating... and in any case, by now it's become a thing I do to gather my thoughts or emotions (not just on camera).
Just a small point you might find interesting; you gave the western pronunciation of the Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek's name. I spent three months in mainland China on business several years ago and became close with Hua, my interpreter. While discussing WWII history I mentioned Chiang Kai-shek and he had no idea who I was talking about. Thinking the communist regime had simply eliminated him from history, I began explaining. It took only a few seconds before the light went on in his eyes and he said "Oh! You mean (phonetically) Shak Ah She!" As I said, I just thought you might find that interesting.
@@randomclouds4404 That's why I added (phonetically) to the comment. I used an English spelling that would mimic Huas' pronunciation rather than a textbook spelling. Since the Chinese pronounce certain letters/syllables different than we do, there is a very good chance we are both right. Thanks for the additional info.
@@tomjustis7237 It depends on what part of China they were from. Jiang Jieshi is the standard mandarin pronunciation that you'd hear in Beijing or Chengdu.
@@matthewreinert9358 Quite true. China is so vast that there are several dialects with major differences in pronunciation. While I spent a few days in Beijing when both entering and leaving the country, the majority of my time was in Shenyang (formerly Muckden) in Manchuria not far (by Chinese standards of distance) from the North Korean border. Beijing is much farther south and Chengdu is even more so, which may account for the difference. I'm impressed by your knowledge of China. Are you just a student of the country or have you also had the opportunity to visit?
Interesting is how so much of this is reminiscent of the Vietnam war. The Republic of Vietnam with help from the US set up strategic hamlets in certain areas of the South Vietnam. With the key difference being US troops and allies did not _systematically_ mistreat people. Though we let far too many people off easy for thinks like the My Lai massacre. That difference is shown in the fact that _to this day_ Japan largely denies or minimizes any wrong doing during the war in China.
Thanks Timeghost team! Your coverage of the war in China is very much appreciated and I hope you'll be covering the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong in a future episode. My grandfather lived in Hong Kong during the occupation and I was told that he would often hide girls in his restaurant when the Japanese soldiers came looking for women. I'm so grateful that I've never had to live through times like this. It's often easy to forget the personal cost of war but you do a pretty good job of conveying it in these episodes.
And too be clear there is still a level of resentment towards the Japanese because of the behaviour of them during their occupations, mostly coming from the lack of contrition
Very informative and well researched. I enjoy all the series your team produces and look forward to viewing them every week. Please pronounce guerrilla correctly. It’s not “go rill e ah”.
The standard English pronunciation is indeed gur-ill-ah, the original Spanish is gu-e-rill-ya, as is the French, and German pronunciation. I'm bilingual English and Swedish by birth, but I grew up in France, and I'm a naturalized German of 20 years - between the four languages I tend to mix up words at times. Afraid that won't change after 52 years. Actually as far as I understand it applies to all bilingual native speakers to some degree (It bothered me being corrected in 'my own languages' when I was younger, so I spent a whole bunch of time researching language acquisition). You should hear us here at home - we do something linguists call code switching, which entails changing language without noticing in mid sentence to say things that are better expressed in 'the other' language. When we were kids, my brother and I would switch between English, French and Swedish that way - which drove our parents nuts as they don't speak French and really didn't understand what the hell we were trying to tell them (yes we did that on purpose at times just to bug them).
Just as a question I was wondering if you will ever cover the Slovene resistance group TIGR which was the first to resiste aginst foreign occupation in 1922 against Mussolini in the Slovenian Litterol. Keep up the good work.
Soviets occupied outer Mongolia (claimed by China) and Tannu Tuva (claimed by China), even before the Japanese occupied Manchuria (also claimed by China).
Good point on this forgotten history. Despite the mess, the West continued to recognize the ROC as a single entity of 11.5 million sq km. Western maps made from this time generally depicted the official claim of the ROC of 11.5m sq km. SU did not annex Tannu Tuva until 1941 and did not recognize Mongolian independence until 1945 Regrettably, since around Y2K, we have lots of Internet-based Anglo-American amateur maps showing all kinds of omissions to suit the neo-con imagination. If high level of self governance implied official independence, the history of many nations, possibly the US, would have to be rewritten.
Recommended viewing: Chinese movie on the resistance during WW2. The 2000 movie "Devils on the Doorstep" (English title). Starring and directed by Wen Jiang. Who played Baze Malbus in "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story".
Good recommendation. The movie caused controversy in the mainland as it depicted older villagers hesitating on how to handle the Japanese troops. The movie was accused of implying older villagers were Japanese-friendly. The historical reality was that many of the youngsters had fled, leaving the oldies behind. While the youngsters resisted, the oldies simply could not do so.
Ann Onymous the images i saw weren‘t so dramatic actually...some heads, some hanging people, some japanese soldiers, some dead chinese people laying on the ground...
It is interesting to note that not only did the Germans own up to their war crimes and tried to make amends but to this day the world will not leave it be As for Japan not only do they not admit to any war crimes ever having been carried out by IJA but the world seems to conspire with the japanese to keep such activities under wraps
The Japanese don’t recognize any war crimes? Do you have a reliable source on that? I could swear there is a super long wiki page about Japanese apologies and acknowledgements (including the issues with some of them of course) but I have never seen anyone back up the no acknowledgement argument
@@bingobongo1615 oh japan recognizes their war crimes, except that their high leaders continue to deny them on record. and no only do those people not get fired, they get promoted. the actual current prime minster had actually said things like their war criminals are not criminals under japanese law, as though that makes it okay. hes also gone on record to suggest that sex slaves were not a thing and those women were volunteers. former governor of Tokyo openly stated, and I quote "people say that the Japanese made a holocaust but that is not true. It is a story made up by the Chinese. It has tarnished the image of Japan, but it is a lie." This guy was not force to leave office. imagine for a minute that the leader of germany said the holocaust did not happen then kept his/her job after that statement. How hollow is their so called "apology" and "acknowledgement" when they deny said apologies and acknowledgements practically everyday, by not individuals but high ranking member of government? who continue to be in government and even promoted later(like current prime minister)Abe?
Look here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_military_equipment_in_World_War_II#Submachine_guns_and_automatic_pistols "The M1921 was commercially imported from the United States and thereafter locally produced in China since the 1920s. Several tens of thousands were made in the arsenals of Shanxi, Taiyuan and Sichuan.[27] ~4,700 guns were also made in 7.63mm in the 21st Arms Weapons Depot.[28] Later in the war, M1928A1 wartime models were supplied to the X Force in Burma, with some also going to the Y Force, by the Unites States.[29] The M1 was also supplied to SACO units.[30]"
Wrong at 12:33 you said that the Second United Front broke down in 1940 which isn't true. The Second United Front actually continue until 1945 at the end of WW2, when the talks of unification broke down between both sides. The only nationalist troop that the communist fought, were the nationalist troop led by Wang Jing Wei. Here is more info for the First and Second United Front: www.britannica.com/topic/United-Front-Chinese-history-1937-1945
We're n0t speaking of the official agreements, but the practical situation - in 1940 they are fighting each other, This changes again, but in 1940 recurring conflict is the case.
I see. Well during the Second Sino Japanese War, the KMT were also divided, there were two KMT leader; one as we knew it was rule by Chiang Kai Shek who will side with Mao and oppose Japan. While the other KMT was rule by the traitor Wang Jing Wei, who defected to Japan so he could eliminate both the communist and his political foe Chiang in the process. It’s possible that the communist were fighting the KMT soldiers who were loyal to Wang Jing Wei.
@@WorldWarTwo Is it possible if you could do an episode on the neutral micronations of WW2? Litterly nobody talks about them. I only know San Marino which had a facist party of it's own. What did they do in the wars?
What's that star around our esteemed Spartacus' neck? If that not spoken for already, I proclaim it as the star of the Knight Commander of the Order of Clio!
Like the Japanese in China, the US tried setting up strategic hamlets in South Vietnam. Not a good sign when you're copying the failed techniques used by a Fascist imperial regime.
Like all armies it was a host of individual reasons. Many of the commanding officers were warlord so many would have fought for them out of longstanding loyalties. Others would have joined for simple economic reasons.
The photo should be taken at much later time, those Thomson sub-machine guns were obviously Lend-Lease materials (earlier, much more famous "Tommy gun" version were with drum magazine).
Yeah, I noticed him also. I thought, "a Caucasian helping out in the Chinese resistance movement in 1932... that must have been one hell of an adventurous life!"
4:55 you contradict yourself. If there were no local support, Japanese had no reason to uproot local villagers and force them to live in fortified settlements.
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I like how you handled China during WW2. The Nationalists did bear the brunt of the Japanese before the USA entered in. How much actual contribution did the Communist did when working with the Nationalists for a brief time is very debatable since alot of their claims are somewhat disputed and revised after the war with Japan. Nevertheless, the consequence by the Nationalists after WW2 is an over-stretched and exhausted faction combined with questionable actions that resulted in the alienation of its citizens led to an overwhelming Communist victory in 1946.
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I find it interesting that conflict between Japan and China started in 1931 because the Japanese army in Korea quite literally went rogue. It would be like if the US army randomly attacked and occupied Chihuahua without any orders to do so from the Federal Government.
Don't give them ideas!
Does Chihuaha have oil?
Asking for a friend......in the US army
@@fredoberg I don't think so, but they make lots of beer.
@@fredoberg Luckily the US is an oil exporter today!
@@fredoberg Chihuahua does indeed have oil.
So glad this theater is being more recognized. This theater tends to be sidelined just like the African theater. I would recommend reading the "Forgotten Ally by Rana Mutter" it discusses China's role in WW2 on the nationalist and communists side especially the collaborationists. One thing that's for certain no matter your opinion Chiang Kai Shek has at least fought off the Japanese for a long time and they did help in many ways.
We know it! Cheers!
@@WorldWarTwo I would caution you about the sources regarding Chang Kai Shek. There's a lot of propaganda about him written by the CCP that was largely accepted as true until relatively recently. Although to be honest I'd say you'll struggle for many sources at all regarding the Chinese Theatre from 37-45
Further ironic considering how China was constantly promoted as an oppressed ally. No doubt the Communist revolution in 1949 helped in the revision.
@@SEAZNDragon ironically enough after Chiang Kai Shek tried to destroy the communist at it's weakest. The Communists themselves were close to destroying the nationalist at their weakest after fighting the Japanese for almost 8 years. And while I have no love for the communist government I have to admire the fact that kept their promises.
@@zacherybarger6591 At the risk of being oversimplifying, I found in case where Communist revolutionaries were successful (China, Russia, Vietnam, Cuba) the Communist may have infighting but remain committed to overthrowing their rivals. The non-Communists tend to allow their infighting to weaken them.
Sparty ramped the intensity up to 11 at the very end. I love how passionate the production team is about history.
Seems more akin to a journalist than a historian though.
I'm not a fan of the appeals to emotion they do like that. Present the information let the viewer decide how they want to feel about it.
Pushing righteous zeal on the viewer always seems contrived and fake.
@@Madhattersinjeans very late i know but the series is called war against humanity.
Its open with the fact its an oped. Just curious whyd you leave this comment in a video detailing japanese war crimes
@@x999uuu1 Because the speakers style is open to comment also. I'm just curious why you feel compelled to challenge his right to comment. Oh, that's right. Because it's an open forum. So glad you agree.
So glad that you're also focusing on lesser known aspects and theaters of the war (for a Western audience) keep up the good work!
Another outstanding episode. For Americans, the Asian wars are largely unknown despite their scope and fundamental significance to the world struggle. Thank you.
I came across this War Against Humanity series just today when the episode on the French Resistance appeared in my recommended list. After watching it, I not only subscribed but also went to your channel, binge watched the entire series to date and am now looking forward to the next episode. As a major history buff I have to say you do fantastic work!
Are you going to cover more specific war crimes in China, since you have covered the Nanjing Massacre, or is that hard to come by? Also, are you going to cover resistance in Korea anytime soon since you mentioned it? Either way, pretty excellent presentation.
Edit: By more specific, I mean akin to coverage in Poland in 2018 with content available for war crimes every week which could fit in one video. I know these are the two countries suffering the most under occupation right now as of this day.
I do hope they'll cover Unit 731 and other such facilities.
Was it covered in a between two wars episode?
They might have made one, or will make one
@@Lttlemoi Unit 731 boy that would really upset youtube.
We have made a Between Two Wars episode about the Second Sino-Japanese War in which we talk about Unit 731 briefly -> th-cam.com/video/_3vPGpamtDI/w-d-xo.html
we'll cover other war crimes in china in later War Against Humanity episodes
@@WorldWarTwo Given Imperial Japan's use of Biological & Chemical Weapons against Civilians, the Japanese People were very, very lucky they were not Completely Exterminated. After all this is exactly what Imperial Japan would have eventually done to the Chinese if Imperial Japan had been successful...
As far as using the Atom Bomb on Japan, this was done to prevent Operation Cherry Blossoms at Night, the use of Bubonic Plague on San Diego, San Francisco, etc by suicide planes launched from an I-400 Carrier Submarine. This would have killed between 1/4 of the population of the West Coast of the US and 1/4 of the World Population...
Granted I would have chosen different targets had I been POTUS, as Tokyo Imperial Palace & Unit 731 in occupied China would have been much more appropriate. If the Chinese were informed that they needed to kill everyone injured by the destruction of Unit 731, and to create a permanent no go zone surrounded by a ring buckthorn Trees, Millions of Chinese would not have died from the Biological Weapons that were hastily dumped by Imperial Japan.
And lastly, everyone involved in planning the & executing war: Emperor Hirohito & staff, all Japanese Officers implicated in War Crimes, etc. deserved their own "Nuremberg Trials" and Public Execution, instead of the limited trials that took place...
Soon, we will have to archive all these videos for actual education and not religate them to the niche corners of TH-cam. I hope Sparty and Indy get the recognition they deserve for their more in-depth coverage of the wars then you get in most history books in school.
Thank you - very kind words.
So the atrocities of Japanese army against Chinese civilians ironically helped to create a unified resistance spirit in Chinese people. Much similar to what happened in German occupation of Russia
Chinese ( especially Han Chinese) were never know to be warlike .
They were always dominated militarily and politically by more warlike Non Han people like Mongols , Manchu ( who founded Qing dynasty) and Japanese .
These groups were much smaller numerically than Han Chinese but always dominated the much larger populous Han Chinese in every Military conflict throughout Chinese history .
Even the last dynasty of China ( Qing dynasty) was not Han but Manchu ethnicity .
Manchu are a warlike people who live in Northern China .
Han Chinese and Koreans were more of Farmers and did not make good soldiers .
@@bobfaam5215simply wrong. Six out of eight major unified Chinese dynasty were han through and through. Yuan(the mongol empire) was a peculiar case as it simutanously conquered the majority of europe and asia at the time, but by the end of yuan their entire culture has been througly sinized. Qing was not particularly strong, and had arguably inferior army compared to Ming dynasty. It only took control of China because of a series of popular rebellion overthrew the central government, leaving a chaotic and fractured China at its weakest. Your notion of the "han" race constantly living under foreign occupation is erronous at best, racist argument at worst.
Did you know that the minute hand on your clock is not working?
The unpredictable effects of war...
Batteries are being rationed for the war effort
iOlce99
It is probably mechanical :-)
I think maybe it was pointed at 15 minutes to midnight intentionally
@@plapbandit _accidentally_ is a word that does not come in mind for Astrid's sets.
Great video, keep it up Spartacus!
Thank you - I will try my best!
Military History Visualized had an interesting podcast where one of the problems with the Japanese military in China is that their military personnel who would bring up these plans for Tokyo to stamp for clearance wasn't their generals... but from colonels and majors - ranks of officers who had no business in grand strategy planning.
a true grassroots military!
"Guerillias?" Is that a type of flower? :D
They hide between the other flowers..
Arioch IV I though it was the band...
Like hearing someone ask for a tortilia at chipolte
Clearly the ones who sang Clint eastwood
The lack of technologies such as radios also contributed to the lack of resistance. The French used the British radio stations to issue orders etc.
They say the Spanish republicans who had fled defeat in Spain were the ones who kickstarted French resistance since they had the experience. Read this - libcom.org/history/1939-1945-spanish-resistance-in-france
The Chinese people: who are we fighting?
The Chinese government’s: yes
@@canman5060 Yes
Although Nanjing is in fact spelled that way in pinyin (it means "Southern Capital" btw) Wade Gilles transliteration has it as "Nanching". Somehow it was transliterated most frequently as Nanking (possibly because of Cantonese?) so if you wish to research this particular war crime with mass rape and mass murder you should look for the keyword NANKING as in "Rape of Nanking" which btw was why the U.S. introduced the oil and steel embargo which led in turn to Japan's attack on the USA and Indonesia (they were out to steal steel and oil rubber too).
"Nanking" came from the Postal Romanization during the Qing Dynasty.
@@nightflyer3242 thank you!
like i said I am gonna need a copy of the Chinese telegraph code and a big bottle of baijiu to get through this
And if people don’t understand japan is not know for their oil. Even now this is the numbers
“99.7 percent of Japan's oil is imported”
Am I the only one with 3 extra GoogleMaps tabs open on their browsers and pausing the video every 10 seconds to find these locations? I'm not complaining - I'm like Bilbo - I love maps!
Same
Well done as always Spartacus! Always happy to see more videos on the largely overlooked Chinese front! If at all possible, I hope you can devote a video to interwar/wartime Shanghai which has a fascinating history as a spy center and the unique position of Jewish refugees in the city under Japanese occupation.
that mustache is glorious
@Thorne The recommendation was for proper sealing of face masks. Certain styles are better than others.
@Thorne go clean shave so you can fit a gas mask nicely
Sparty and crew, I must say you guys have done an excellent job in this episode on the War Against Humanity for China. Your presentation pretty much matches what my English parents saw in Shanghai (their base and eldest sister's birthplace in August, 1937 during a Japanese bombing raid, my mother's birthplace in 1914) during their residence there in the 1920's through Dec. 1941 (yes they escaped the Japanese to San Francisco between April, 1941 my mother and November, 1941 , my dad. Thank goodness they lived in "The International Settlement" Cheers for the SF Bay Area
Thank you - best wishes from Bavaria!
Great segment as usually, keep up the good work.
Good vid, informative, many thanks.
Great comment, appreciative, thanks too!
@@WorldWarTwo That exchange induced such a belly-laugh that I think something was herniated !
My heart and love 💕 goes o the people of China and what they went though in this war, the fact they recovered as a people or nation at call is a miracle.
Your clock's stopped
The unpredictable effects of war...
Spartacus Olsson
Perhaps the clock is sat on a quarter to twelve to signify the greater war is about to start?
@@spartacus-olsson You mean that it is broken ???
David Hollenshead or perhaps the victim of battery rationing... could also be turned off.., or broken, who knows, it’s caught in the fog of war and nothing is what it seems anymore.
Last January I went with my high school on an excursion to the Fort of Breendonk combined with a visit to the Dossin base in Mechelen. The disgust I felt while in the museum was silencing. The amount of stories that were told by the guides made you feel so close to the war against humanity that happened in those places. This is one of the reasons why it felt several degrees colder around and in the fort. I recommend those places for a future war against humanity episode. Are there simular systems like the fort and the base?
We know what you're talking about - when we were filming on the Maginot Line in April last year and when we visited Dachau Concentration Camp in November we experienced it as well. Spartacus grew in France in a time when even more of the installations were still around, both as ruins and just abandoned fortifications. That was part his inspiration as a child to start learning about the war.
Above ground forts like Breendonk that were actually used defensively in WWII are quite rare. From WWI there were more of them, but they were heavily destroyed in The Great War and are mostly in ruins, or gone - a very, very emotional experience is to visit the Verdun Fort Douaumont, which was at the center off the extremely bloody 10 month Battle of Verdun in 1916, and saw further action in the war. In total over 700,000 people died on both sides around that fort. Douaumont was originally in the same style as Breendonk, but has been kept in the bombed out state it stood in by November 1918. Most of the fortifications of WWII were more bunker style, underground fortresses.
In its role as Nazi Prison Camp it was unfortunately only one of many. Several of the prisons, concentration, and death camps, a number fo which have been preserved as memorials - Dachau, Mathausen, and Auschwitz are now major museums, there are also several smaller museum in the old incarceration installations all over what was German occupied land. On the other side there are also incarceration centers used by the USSR in places like L'Viv that have been turned into museums after the collapse of the USSR - these stand witness to horrors perpetrated by the NKVD in the name off Communism that were not as much spoken of for decades after the war, as the Soviet Union refused to acknowledge them, and these places were then under Soviet control.
@@WorldWarTwo Did not see your 2nd comment 'm sorry but this is the info I found for you.
On 10 May 1940 at 8.30am, King Léopold III, the Commander in Chief, arrived at Breendonk. He had been preceded by the first rank of the GHQ and the General Chief of Staff. It was from here that the King delivered his national proclamation on 10. May. It was also here that he received the commanders of the Seventh French army, placed on the right, and the British forces on the left, as well as General Billotte, the commander of the Group of Northern Armies to which the Belgian army reported as of 12. May.
On 16. May, General Billotte ordered the abandonment of the Antwerp-Namur line, which had become untenable since the capture of Sedan. On 16 May at midnight, the General Chief of Staff left the fort; in the afternoon of the 17th, the whole GHQ was moved to the Ghent region.
The SS Camp
On september 20th 1940 Sturmbannführer Philip Schmitt brought his first victims to Breendonk. The Fort officially became the Auffanglager Breendonk, a transit camp; a major centre for the Sicherheitspolizei-Sicherheitsdienst (SIPO/SD), the german political police.
During the first year of the Occupation, the Jews made up half of the prisoners. From 1942 onwards and the creation of the « vezammelkamp » (reception camp) at the Dossin barracks where the Jews were assembled before their departure towards the east and the extermination camps, most of the Jews disappeared from Breendonk, which gradually became a camp for political prisoners and members of the Resistance.
On the 22nd of September 1941, a first convoy of Belgian political prisoners was transferred from Breendonk and from the citadel of Huy to the concentration camp of Neuengamme close to Hamburg. Other convoys were to follow …
Prisoners stayed on average three months at the fortress before being deported towards the concentration camps in Germany, Austria or Poland.
The regime set up here by the Nazis hardly differed from that of an official concentration camp. The undernourishment and the forced labour wore down the body and mind. The ever-present physical cruelty sometimes caused the death of prisoners.
Initially, the camp was only guarded by a few German SS and a detachment of the Wehrmacht. In September 1941, the Wachtgruppe of the SD arrived as back up. This time, these were no longer German SS but mainly Flemings.
In total, around 3500 persons, including around thirty women, were subjected to the “Hell of Breendonk”, as Franz Fischer calls it in his memoirs.
Around half of these 3500 did not come back from the camps alive. source:www.breendonk.be/EN/index.asp?ID=History
I would reccomend it to use it in a special episode where you follow the steps of the Jews and recistance fighters to concentration camps.
Thanks for a well done video Sparticus. While watching I started looking at the pictures in the background and was surprised to see the White Rose Resistance there. I doubt if many people today have even heard of them but their story needs to be told and inspire other generations. (hopefully without the same results they had)
I'll cover them all right - a bit early now. Hans is in the Wehrmacht, serving as medic. He returned a few months ago from the campaign in France. He's currently reading books on pacifism, and philosophy while listening to Thomas Mann's clandestine radio broadcast calling for passive resistance. All of which is forming his path towards resistance. Sophie just turned 20 and is currently enrolled in the Reichsarbeitsdienst, where she is making the direct experiences with Naziism that will lead to her decision to join her brother and rally their friends into the Weiße Rose a year from now. They are to me and should be to all of us unforgettable. Why I also keep their photo in the set, together with Hans Oster who I will soon cover in a bio special that we recorded last shooting session.
@@spartacus-olsson I read an article about them 25-30 years ago and that is the only time I have ever heard about them but I guess the article left a bigger impression on me than I realized at the time because I recognized the picture immediately, so for me I guess they are unforgettable to me as well. Keep up the good work.
@@korbell1089 there's a really good German movie about Sophie's last days from 2005 - highly recommended if you're up to watching German with subtitles. Trailer here th-cam.com/video/x14U3R3-dFE/w-d-xo.html
You can see if you can get it in your region on Amazon at imdb www.imdb.com/title/tt0426578/
This guys name fits to his mustache as his mustache fits to a history channel, I love his style
Even some of the collaborationist units and militia units that were supposed to fight the Chinese guerrilla units ended up rebelling against the Japanese formations
hence japan never actually trusted any of them, and gave them nothing more than police duties with the army close by if they tried anything funny.
Some units were used to fight local rebel groups or to support anti partisan operations but that was rare and the IJA kept them poorly armed to keep them from being too independent and due to shortages
It’s weird how the Japanese still had collaborators and the Chinese continued to fight one another after all those atrocities.
Never underestimate the human desire for survival and personal/sectional interest over the whole.
Also, it's not placing personal interest over the whole if you don't see yourself as part of a "whole". A sense of national unity doesn't exist naturally, it has to be created or grow. If it's the same to you if the Japanese foreigners or some foreigners from Southern China occupy your region, then there's no intrinsic reason to prefer one over the other.
@@canman5060 Japan kept Taiwan out of the war until 1944. They didn't draft them until that year and only had a few thousand serve as translators.
@@porksterbob I don’t know about that. Many of the soldiers who invaded Singapore and formed the occupying force in 1942 were Taiwanese.
@@MagSnapShots The Taiwanese soldiers were less than 100,000 until the end of 1944.
Absolutely love this video things like this are so me thank you! 😁I am subscribing for sure!. I loveeeee your room too! What a fantastic backdrop. I will have to try and convince my kind lady to let me have a room like that in our house! 😀.
I think it’s absolutely brilliant that all sides of history including the lesser known stories can be so easily accessed for the youth now like myself due to kind and wise folk like yourself! It’s so so priceless! Thank you sir! These things are so important to me😊
Very kind words - thank you!
13:53
They have their own personality...
Keep up the good work guys!
Chiang's impotence is partly responsible for the mass collaboration after the outbreak of second Sino-Japanese War. His unification of whole country by late 1920s was nominal (at best), as those warlords were only pacified by the might of Chiang's German trained/equipped central army. Once those forces had been summarily expended in the brutal Battle of Shanghai, there was nothing left at Chiang's disposal to bound these warlords who had more loyalty towards money/regional power than the Generalissimo himself, and they started collaboration w/ Japanese soon afterwards.
@ I'm not denying Chiang's vision (He's certainly more insightful than the collaborative Wang Jingwei by setting communists than the Japanese as the archenemy), but the contradiction between his indulgence in power and his weakness in domestic (which improved after he fled to Taiwan) and diplomatic affairs makes him a leader vulnerable to attacks. Just to make a point.
I wonder what's that medal-like thing thats draped on Spartacus' neck.
It's a back support that shouldn't have been visible ;-) he had a back ache that day.
The "Iron Edelweiss on blue band" awarded for "bravely educating history to the people on the oher side of the internet from the mountainous region of Bavaria" 😎
Well, thanks. This was the greatest mystery of this episode for me. I thought it being either a mini-Pour-le-Merit or better, a eight legged Chaos Star. Both equally badass. Anyways, get well soon Spartacus...
@@WorldWarTwo If it's a back support, why's it on his front??
Chinese civilian resistances behind Japanese occupied territory make great Chinese drama and movie.
You mean "The Disguiser" ?
There’s many more. But “The Disguiser”, is a good one too.
I literally don't want to see Chinese kung fu master ripping Japanese soldier into half and throwing grenade to a japanese war plane
@@archravenineteenseventeen then that’s your own problem.
"Lust Caution" is a great one - no kung fu, but brutal, with a sado-masochistic sub-theme. Not for the kids.
*STARING AT THE CLOCK LIKE I ALWAYS DO*
Oml i have a bday today and this episode is like a gift to me
kyo_ koko05 - Mine is too, happy birthday. You’re right, when you learn something new it is very much a gift
Cromagnon Man happy birthday to you too!!! :)
Congrats!
And from me too - best wishes on your birthday! I'm honored to be a small part of your celebrations.
Spartacus Olsson thats sweet
The "Strategic Hamlets" sound pretty much identical to what the US did in Nam. No surprise given that they were basically facing the same task, the pacification of an enemy guerrilla force with either potential or realized popular support in local areas.
The "Strategic Hamlets" strategy was successful during the Malayan Emergency tho, communist activity fizzles after the British colonial authorities put the Malayan Chinese community into these hamlets to prevent them from supporting the communists. Over the next decades, these hamlets developed into thriving prosperous communities that locals called 新村 or new villages.
Great vid!
Thanks!
Last time i was this early, france was not occupied yet.
on the one hand, I want somebody to fix Sparty's glasses (just behind the ear you know, if you bow that a bit, it'll stay)
on the other hand, it wouldn't be Sparty without pushing the glasses up once in a while
(from one Brillenträger to another, just casual stuff)
besides this: thank you for showing the war on all it's front, also on the ones that are overlooked easily. you and the whole TimeGhost / WW2 team are doing a great job!
Thank you! I think I've tried everything with my glasses, but somehow my nose and ears are physiologically incapable of cooperating... and in any case, by now it's become a thing I do to gather my thoughts or emotions (not just on camera).
@@spartacus-olsson I know that so well! It becomes a ritual after a while... strange but satisfying :) keep up the great work!
That's one hot French resistance fighter
That final was fierce!
Just a small point you might find interesting; you gave the western pronunciation of the Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek's name. I spent three months in mainland China on business several years ago and became close with Hua, my interpreter. While discussing WWII history I mentioned Chiang Kai-shek and he had no idea who I was talking about. Thinking the communist regime had simply eliminated him from history, I began explaining. It took only a few seconds before the light went on in his eyes and he said "Oh! You mean (phonetically) Shak Ah She!" As I said, I just thought you might find that interesting.
I find that VERY interesting. Thank you for sharing that. Noted.
I thought they called him Jiang Jieshi but alright.
@@randomclouds4404 That's why I added (phonetically) to the comment. I used an English spelling that would mimic Huas' pronunciation rather than a textbook spelling. Since the Chinese pronounce certain letters/syllables different than we do, there is a very good chance we are both right. Thanks for the additional info.
@@tomjustis7237 It depends on what part of China they were from. Jiang Jieshi is the standard mandarin pronunciation that you'd hear in Beijing or Chengdu.
@@matthewreinert9358 Quite true. China is so vast that there are several dialects with major differences in pronunciation. While I spent a few days in Beijing when both entering and leaving the country, the majority of my time was in Shenyang (formerly Muckden) in Manchuria not far (by Chinese standards of distance) from the North Korean border. Beijing is much farther south and Chengdu is even more so, which may account for the difference. I'm impressed by your knowledge of China. Are you just a student of the country or have you also had the opportunity to visit?
The French got tons more weapons aid than China. Yet China held on longer.
i like that clock and phone ... very cool set decorations
Everybody gangster till Spartacus adjusts his glasses
Good video
Interesting is how so much of this is reminiscent of the Vietnam war. The Republic of Vietnam with help from the US set up strategic hamlets in certain areas of the South Vietnam. With the key difference being US troops and allies did not _systematically_ mistreat people. Though we let far too many people off easy for thinks like the My Lai massacre. That difference is shown in the fact that _to this day_ Japan largely denies or minimizes any wrong doing during the war in China.
Those things aren't unique to Vietnam or to China. Similar tactics were used, for example, by Britain from South Africa to Malaysia.
The US probably got the idea from the British forces in Malaya
Thanks Timeghost team! Your coverage of the war in China is very much appreciated and I hope you'll be covering the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong in a future episode.
My grandfather lived in Hong Kong during the occupation and I was told that he would often hide girls in his restaurant when the Japanese soldiers came looking for women. I'm so grateful that I've never had to live through times like this.
It's often easy to forget the personal cost of war but you do a pretty good job of conveying it in these episodes.
And its Thanks to you Sparty and all there why we have truly factual and entertaining Historical Education thats unbiased pretty much
And too be clear there is still a level of resentment towards the Japanese because of the behaviour of them during their occupations, mostly coming from the lack of contrition
Very informative and well researched. I enjoy all the series your team produces and look forward to viewing them every week. Please pronounce guerrilla correctly. It’s not “go rill e ah”.
The standard English pronunciation is indeed gur-ill-ah, the original Spanish is gu-e-rill-ya, as is the French, and German pronunciation. I'm bilingual English and Swedish by birth, but I grew up in France, and I'm a naturalized German of 20 years - between the four languages I tend to mix up words at times. Afraid that won't change after 52 years. Actually as far as I understand it applies to all bilingual native speakers to some degree (It bothered me being corrected in 'my own languages' when I was younger, so I spent a whole bunch of time researching language acquisition). You should hear us here at home - we do something linguists call code switching, which entails changing language without noticing in mid sentence to say things that are better expressed in 'the other' language. When we were kids, my brother and I would switch between English, French and Swedish that way - which drove our parents nuts as they don't speak French and really didn't understand what the hell we were trying to tell them (yes we did that on purpose at times just to bug them).
Just as a question I was wondering if you will ever cover the Slovene resistance group TIGR which was the first to resiste aginst foreign occupation in 1922 against Mussolini in the Slovenian Litterol. Keep up the good work.
Not in this series, as we stay within the confinements of World War Two here.
@@WorldWarTwo Ok, but I think it at least deserves an honorable mention if you will ever cover the Yugoslavian resistance as it was the first.
We will definitely cover the Yugoslavian resistance groups and if any pre-war groups are relevant for that we'll mention those too.
Off topic, I couldn't help but notice your clock is only right twice a day.
What is the medal or medallion Spartacus wears?
An edelweiss
Soviets occupied outer Mongolia (claimed by China) and Tannu Tuva (claimed by China), even before the Japanese occupied Manchuria (also claimed by China).
Good point on this forgotten history. Despite the mess, the West continued to recognize the ROC as a single entity of 11.5 million sq km. Western maps made from this time generally depicted the official claim of the ROC of 11.5m sq km.
SU did not annex Tannu Tuva until 1941 and did not recognize Mongolian independence until 1945
Regrettably, since around Y2K, we have lots of Internet-based Anglo-American amateur maps showing all kinds of omissions to suit the neo-con imagination. If high level of self governance implied official independence, the history of many nations, possibly the US, would have to be rewritten.
Recommended viewing: Chinese movie on the resistance during WW2. The 2000 movie "Devils on the Doorstep" (English title). Starring and directed by Wen Jiang. Who played Baze Malbus in "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story".
Good recommendation. The movie caused controversy in the mainland as it depicted older villagers hesitating on how to handle the Japanese troops. The movie was accused of implying older villagers were Japanese-friendly.
The historical reality was that many of the youngsters had fled, leaving the oldies behind. While the youngsters resisted, the oldies simply could not do so.
What is this? A War Against Humanity video that isn't auto age-restricted?! TH-cam, you're off your game today.
Don't jinx it...
Dam this dude got intense at the end
google images of "rape of nanking" and then get back to me about intense
Ann Onymous the images i saw weren‘t so dramatic actually...some heads, some hanging people, some japanese soldiers, some dead chinese people laying on the ground...
Lols
@@mennit4959
but you're german dengdengdenge de!
@@mennit4959 the NERVE of some people they really get under my skin the pricks they make me so sick with anger i can barely breathe!
thank you!
It is interesting to note that not only did the Germans own up to their war crimes and tried to make amends but to this day the world will not leave it be As for Japan not only do they not admit to any war crimes ever having been carried out by IJA but the world seems to conspire with the japanese to keep such activities under wraps
There is no conspiracy to keep such crimes under wraps, maybe the western countries don't really care about Japanese war crimes in China.
The Japanese don’t recognize any war crimes? Do you have a reliable source on that?
I could swear there is a super long wiki page about Japanese apologies and acknowledgements (including the issues with some of them of course) but I have never seen anyone back up the no acknowledgement argument
@@bingobongo1615 oh japan recognizes their war crimes, except that their high leaders continue to deny them on record. and no only do those people not get fired, they get promoted. the actual current prime minster had actually said things like their war criminals are not criminals under japanese law, as though that makes it okay. hes also gone on record to suggest that sex slaves were not a thing and those women were volunteers. former governor of Tokyo openly stated, and I quote "people say that the Japanese made a holocaust but that is not true. It is a story made up by the Chinese. It has tarnished the image of Japan, but it is a lie." This guy was not force to leave office.
imagine for a minute that the leader of germany said the holocaust did not happen then kept his/her job after that statement.
How hollow is their so called "apology" and "acknowledgement" when they deny said apologies and acknowledgements practically everyday, by not individuals but high ranking member of government? who continue to be in government and even promoted later(like current prime minister)Abe?
Insurgents, moving people to different locations and manpower shortages. Does this sound familiar.Truly history repeats itself.
I like the Tango Truce
Really didnt need to see that man's arm bending like that
Ayyy is that Hans Oster in the back ? Such a handsome fella :)
Do you have plans to cover the yugoslav resistance?
yes
I'm gonna need a copy of the Chinese Telegraph Code and a bottle of baijiu to get through this.
When will Indy have a majestic mustache like Sparty?
You have to be called Spartacus, or Mackensen to get a license for one of those things... Indianas get cool vests an outrageous ties.
World War Two ahahahaha! Brilliant 😂✌️
2:55 how do you say "can't catch me coppers, see" in chinese
Sparty your clock is broken. It's on time only twice a day.
2:54 Who sold them Thompsons?
Look here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_military_equipment_in_World_War_II#Submachine_guns_and_automatic_pistols "The M1921 was commercially imported from the United States and thereafter locally produced in China since the 1920s. Several tens of thousands were made in the arsenals of Shanxi, Taiyuan and Sichuan.[27] ~4,700 guns were also made in 7.63mm in the 21st Arms Weapons Depot.[28] Later in the war, M1928A1 wartime models were supplied to the X Force in Burma, with some also going to the Y Force, by the Unites States.[29] The M1 was also supplied to SACO units.[30]"
At 13:51, foreshadowing Pearl Harbour
Lol every time he pronounces guerrilla as Goo-rihl-eeuh it drives me crazy.
Anyone，greeting from China.
Hey Spartacus, did we have any biology hw today?
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@@WorldWarTwo it was a joke:(
In our words “中国人民站起来了。” Chinese people final stand up.
Wow! As soon as I need to go to school. Wow!
Richard Sorge special episode please! 8]
We very likely will!
Are you fucking kidding me I get 3 ads in a 14 minute video and yet this video is probably demonetized
Wrong at 12:33 you said that the Second United Front broke down in 1940 which isn't true. The Second United Front actually continue until 1945 at the end of WW2, when the talks of unification broke down between both sides. The only nationalist troop that the communist fought, were the nationalist troop led by Wang Jing Wei.
Here is more info for the First and Second United Front: www.britannica.com/topic/United-Front-Chinese-history-1937-1945
We're n0t speaking of the official agreements, but the practical situation - in 1940 they are fighting each other, This changes again, but in 1940 recurring conflict is the case.
I see. Well during the Second Sino Japanese War, the KMT were also divided, there were two KMT leader; one as we knew it was rule by Chiang Kai Shek who will side with Mao and oppose Japan. While the other KMT was rule by the traitor Wang Jing Wei, who defected to Japan so he could eliminate both the communist and his political foe Chiang in the process.
It’s possible that the communist were fighting the KMT soldiers who were loyal to Wang Jing Wei.
I have a sneaking suspension that the lag on the links in the video is deliberate and its own meme :)
No it's not - we can't help it. TH-cam only gives you a limited time for the endscreen and we always have too much to say in the Call to Action.
Very informative.
May I suggest better fitting glasses?
Colder lights would help... we're working on that.
@@WorldWarTwo Is it possible if you could do an episode on the neutral micronations of WW2? Litterly nobody talks about them. I only know San Marino which had a facist party of it's own. What did they do in the wars?
@@luxembourgishempire2826 I believe they would cover that.
@@saharajat2557 Yo, are you related to Spartacus Olsen?
@@luxembourgishempire2826 Unfortunately no.
What about current resistance of the Chinese or isn’t there any?
You're Welcome. : )
What's that star around our esteemed Spartacus' neck? If that not spoken for already, I proclaim it as the star of the Knight Commander of the Order of Clio!
Clio is honored!
Read Mao Zedong "On Protracted War" If you want to DECIPHER this traffic!
Spartacus is great!
I'm Spartacus... after all. (thank you)
Didn't the Americans and Vietnamese copy that strategic hamlet thing in the 1960s during the Indochina war?
nice video
Like the Japanese in China, the US tried setting up strategic hamlets in South Vietnam. Not a good sign when you're copying the failed techniques used by a Fascist imperial regime.
Why did 300.000 Chinese join collaborationist army if Japanese treated them so poorly?
Like all armies it was a host of individual reasons. Many of the commanding officers were warlord so many would have fought for them out of longstanding loyalties. Others would have joined for simple economic reasons.
@@WorldWarTwo Thanks for another detailed answer!
The Chinese Red Army in the 1937 photo with Thompson submachine guns?
The photo should be taken at much later time, those Thomson sub-machine guns were obviously Lend-Lease materials (earlier, much more famous "Tommy gun" version were with drum magazine).
China imported and often home produced any gun you can think of from the 1930s.
In 4:26 the 2nd guy from the left doesn´t look asian. Maybe a soviet officer to aid the fighters?
Yeah, I noticed him also. I thought, "a Caucasian helping out in the Chinese resistance movement in 1932... that must have been one hell of an adventurous life!"
Probably white Russians
Eh it'll all be over by Christmas
Great video- one question though- what the hell is a geurilia?
Spartacus! What's the medal around your neck?
That's a silver edelweiss, a sign used by Alpine Hunters that they have climbed their first peek.
@@WorldWarTwo Love it! Its pretty cool!
for that algorithm.
4:55 you contradict yourself. If there were no local support, Japanese had no reason to uproot local villagers and force them to live in fortified settlements.