We hope you enjoyed episode one of this six part miniseries. Next episode we will cover the deployment of hundreds of Tanks and guns as the II SS Panzer Corps and the 5th Guards Tank Army prepare for battle! We will be making more of these miniseries now that our weekly coverage is over. It’s the Timeghost Army that makes this all possible, so join here at: www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory
I am hoping that you saw my comment telling you I sent a message by email to timeghost email. I think it got buried in the live chat section by the time i could get back.
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I really appreciate this series and maybe other following going in depth into the details which was not possible during "the first series". And I guess there are still lots of topics to look at a second time and more deeper than back then. Hats off !
8:40 - Indies german pronounciation has improved a lot - for example the SS Obergruppenführer is a complicated german word and usually butchered by americans but this one was damn good. Same for the word "Das Reich" with the complicate "ch" at the end where usually americans use a kind of Ryke like dyke. Same for Leibstandarte where he speaks out the last "e" like in Porsche which Americans usually cut and wonder, why germans do not understand when they speak about Porsch ... while germans now it with a herable and long "e". Just to let the non german speaker know that this is really good pronounciation and that he takes care for the german words and its pronounciation and that is a lot of effort at least at this level and through a complete video. 10:15 - and I also like this animation of the conversation in this kind of setup between the 2 generals pictures looking like an old typewriter or stenograph typing the text in real time where other channels throw the full text onto the screen reading that. It is not so distracting cause you follow the narrator and the words coming in where in the full text at once methods you start to read the text while you do not listen to the voice cause your reading is faster and you will be soon ahead of the voice.
@@robertjarman3703we saw it. In pointed to Jake, and Jake answered he’d checked, but if you haven’t heard back from him by end of Sunday, please send again because then the email could have been lost in the spam filters.
You guys have done and continue to do amazing work. I genuinely think you've pioneered a whole new approach to telling the story and history of conflicts that influences your contemporaries. Keep creating content like this that rivals Sparty's Mustache in its magnificence
My headcanon is that its his army of time travelling journalists as they document the war while infiltrated in the various cobelligerents' armed forces
This is absolutely amazing, keeping the channel and history alive. And one of my favorite battles of WW2 as the first episode? Hell yeah, can't wait for more of these!
It is interesting how the Battle of Prokhorovka came about On the first day of the operation, the Germans overran the Russian 6th Army and ran into the dug-in 1st Russian Tank Army in the second echelon Vatutin wanted the 1st Tank Army to counterattack, but Katukov refused and asked the front to change order, Katukov dig-in the T-34 up to the turret in the ground and thus stopped the German advance The Germans encountered "weaker resistance" to the east towards Prokhorovka and that's where they then turned Unfortunately for the 5th Tank Army, they did not have time to dig in, but literally marched into battle The rest is history
Never though I would see the TimeGhost crew giving us an even deeper analisys of my fav WW2 battle after that awesome special regular episode 2 and a hal years ago, but here we are and I cannot express houw grateful I am for it. Thank you TG crew and carry on. Excelsior!
You should make a documentary on the Forgotten 500, the American airmen shot down by the nazis on the bombing run of oilfields in Romania and saved by the Četniks in Serbia.
@@spartacus-olsson I wonder if you'll tell the stories of certain Axis and Allied divisions throughout the war. Especially the obscure ones like those besieged at Dunkirk in 1944-5. So fanatical was the German resolve there that they started eating sawdust instead of surrendering
WHEW! I didn’t time travel after all! When I awakened and checked my subscriptions for new videos and came upon The Battle of Kursk that I know I saw 2+ years ago but it was brand new you can understand my confusion! I’m very excited you will go into detail about this battle within the battle-it deserves its own spotlight. *****Don’t forget, even though STAVKA were pretty sure Kursk was where the Germans were going to attack, Stalin actually got the battle plans from his ‘Lucy’ spy ring based in Switzerland from spy code name ‘Werther’ whom Stalin thought was in OKW. Unfortunately for history, we don’t have his name. I suspect Werther was really the British feeding info from Enigma to the Lucy ring. We know this was done because Stalin wasn’t told about Enigma and Bletchley Park, but whenever the US or UK tried to tip him off, the ever paranoid Stalin didn’t believe them so the Brits fed the info through Switzerland and the Lucy ring.
I was thrilled to see this thumbnail pop up. Having read Martin Caiden's "The Tigers Are Burning" when I was around 10 years old, this particular battle has frequently captured my interest when considering the Eastern Front. As always, I'm really going to enjoy this miniseries! -Erik Wade, Capt., TGA
Lacking time to watch all the documentaries I'd like, I feel very lucky and immensely pleased to notice the name Prokhorovka, vaguely remembered from a video game, and find out that we're getting a whole mini-series about it. Thank you, this I gotta see!
I'm Indy Neidell, AWK AWK!! 😂 Sorry, been watching a lot of Sabaton History lately. I actually went and watched the Panzerkampf episode again as a prelude to watching this. Thank you for what you do, you're among the best Indy!! 🙂
Was literally thinking this morning as I got my breakfast, ‘boy, I do miss the regular Sunday morning WW2 episode’, and lo and behold, here is this special! A special thank you indeed for continuing on with more in-depth WW2 coverage!
I hadn't heard of Kursk until (age 10) I read Issue 1 of War Monthly in 1970, the scale of forces involved was shocking, Quite an eye-opener, as so little info seemed available on E Front. I thought I must have read the most brutal episode of the war little knowing I still had the Winter War, the Kyiv catastrophe, doomed Sevastopol and the Crimea, the bloody, brutal Stalingrad and Caucasus Campaign, the sheer desperation of attempting to reopen routes to Leningrad, plus the appallingly dreadful Rzhev Meat grinder and Op Bagration to discover. For all its ghastly faults and even allowing for lend lease support, I shall never truly understand just how the Soviet State managed to lose so much at the start, yet sustain a savage defence, then finally go on the offensive.
As always, thank you for your work, your dedication to ensuring that history does not fall into dusty shadows. It's all to easy to forget what happened, and ignoring history which opens up for such terrible things to potentially happen again. We cannot forget what happens during war, and specially not the lessons to be learned from it.
I like the idea of revisiting stuff, It'd be interesting to do something about the german pockets in france after the ally broked through (maybe a special showing what it was like in those pockets?)
You never really hear about the year 1943 in ww2 games and films/Documentarys. It's usually always 1939, invasion of poland, to 1940 invasion of france, then 1941 japanese attack pearl harbour then to 1942 in stalingrad and then skips straight to d day 1944, then to berlin 1945. Thats why I find 1943 to be most interesting.
For those interested in the engineering aspect of this battle, I recommend the book of Paul Kennedy “Engineers of Victory” notably the chapter on how to defeat the blitzkrieg. He goes in detail on the multiple ways the allies successfully defended against the German blitzkrieg, precisely on the battle of El Alamein and Kursk.
excellent- and motivational! reorganizing the amps and wires- lots and lots of wires /cables for the subwoofers to make space for a new HTPC in the rack- comparatively speaking - should be easy after this great intro to the series
Delicious absolutely delicious plz do cover the Kokada track, hurtgen forest, seelow hights. Perhaps even a special on the different siege's that went on during the war
Prokhorovka is certainly the most known tank battle of all time, but "Dubno Brody" during the initial invasion (1941) was far bigger in terms of number of tanks :) Prokhorovka had around 1000 tanks all told. Dubno Brody had over 4000 (on paper) :)
It depends on how you calculate it, Dubno Brody had units with more tanks, but tanks that fought against other tanks will be similiar to Prokhorovka since many tanks broke down before being used, some were just not used before the fight were effectively over. A good reason as to why the battle of Kursk is so well known as the biggest tank battle is due to the overall offensive being the last one the germans seemingly could turn the tide back in their favor. Dubno Brody isn't well known as it happened at a time and place that did not see much focus by historians comparred to the large encirclements happening futher north.
@@MrWolfgangtube I've seen several interviews of him, usually on channels like "Military Aviation History", etc. He certainly knows his stuff, but i am not wrong :)
It’s just 90 or so seconds into the video that I say this is the LEGEND of prokhorovka and I’m gonna talk about the reality. You really didn’t even watch that far before making that comment?
It’s literally 90 seconds into the video when I say that this is the LEGEND of prokhorovka and I’m gonna talk about the reality. You really didn’t even watch that far before commenting?
Back in the game, I see. Btw, just checked out the doc where you list all your sources. The 1944-45 ones are still missing. Any plans to complete them?
Hello World War II I'm pretty new to the channel ( maybe around July or August this year ) and I have thoroughly enjoyed the episodes I have watched and this Channel is one I look to for GOOD INFORMATION I also definitely enjoyed this particular episode and I'd like to ask if you plan on doing more episodes like these in the future I'd certainly like to see more on the Invasion of Poland in 1939 as it's quite undercovered in my opinion. That's really all I have to say oh wait I also wanted to say Indy your pronunciation of names was quite good. Thanks for the effort you put into your content 👋.
We do plan to have more specials like this covering different events of the war, as to what exactly though you'll just have to wait and see. Thanks for the suggestion!
Looks like I'll have to wait and see then 😂 looking forward to it though thanks for the work you put in to your content it's really just marvellous 👍
Seems the Soviets attritional strategy included, if necessary, the sacrifice of their tank force. It did, but their sacrifice stopped the best Germany could throw at them.
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The reality is, that the battle of Kursk is the most misunderstood battle of all times. Germany could have won, had they kept all Tigers with the SS Pz Grenadier Div. in the South. But they didn't.
11:48 That guy in the forefront is just posing, pulling the trigger and nothing is happening. The bolt's not moving, no muzzle flash, no recoil, nothing. Not surprised if after the politruks saw this he was sent to the gulag.
Surprising how Rotmistrov got away this time, when his faulty strategy caused the loss of hundreds of tanks, he did not survive the Battle of Minsk, a year later. Probably because despite inflicting heavy losses on the Soviets, the Germans were exhausted, give their proportional losses were quite severe, and their weaker armour manufacturing/replacement capabilities. And then you had the allies landing in Sicily, during the same period, forcing reassignment of eastern army divisions.
@@WorldWarTwo hopeful, we could get an special episode on the Danish August "Revolt" of 1943 in the future. It would be nice to have someone in English go in-depth with it
I wish I could remember which show had the Soviet deployments and all the false and hidden positions that forced the Germans to fight on Russian terms.
Was Kursk the turning point of the Eastern Front or Stalingrad? There is a growing consensus building nowadays that the Battle of Moscow was. The Germans won but they were so beat up they never fully recovered.
Stalingrad is the turning point the entire army was lost, 270K men could not be replaced, the front moved almost 250 km to the west the tank blade was blunted in Kursk and had no more offensive actions after that
The loss at Stalingrad was the end of German advancement, it pushed back the lines hundreds of Kilometers and forced the Germans out of Crimea. The Battle of Kursk was the Germans last offensive in the East of any real size and put them over to the defensive for the rest of the war.
maybe this is an odd question but at 2:54 the picture of hitler has someone in the background crudely circled what's that about or is it just an aberration
The German's lost because they waited to attack it came way to late the Russian's built defense in depth and the German Amy lost way to many tanks and men.
Or maybe the Germans lost because the attack was a stupid idea to begin with. When even Hitler says no further attack, perhaps he should have stuck with that.
This was not the largest tank battle in history. There are multiple articles discussing this misconception. The largest is the battle at Brody and Dubno on 26-29 July 1941. The Soviets suffered a major defeat. Kursk and Prokhorovka get the press because the Soviets got to write the history after the war.
I just watched- it’s at around 90 seconds in that I say that the largest tank battle stuff is the LEGEND of Prokhorovka, and I’m going to cover the reality. You didn’t even watch that far before making your comment?
@@Southsideindy This is why I mentioned the multiple articles and why the legend is as it is. Yes, you do state the "legend of Prokhorovka" but are not clear that tank numbers is part of this legend. The first 30 seconds are what most people are going to remember. Prokhorovka was an incredible battle that deserves attention. The forces deployed in the battle of Kursk were truly massive. You are correct, I did not watch the whole video, just the first few minutes. I will correct that mistake. I guess I am just exhausted with hearing people claiming that Kursk was the largest tank battle or that Stalingrad or Kursk was the turning point for the Germans. Finding comprehensive discussions about the Brody battle is difficult, at least the several articles I have read are a bit sketchy, so this important victory/defeat is overlooked.
It's a good way to show how how even seemingly insignificant geographical obsticles can become huge issues when the weather changes. Seems like the heavy rain on the 11th plus the lack of organization on the German side undermined any efforts to cross the small waterway
I'M INDY NYDELL AND THIS IS WW 2.
God, how I miss this every Saturday.
We hope you enjoyed episode one of this six part miniseries. Next episode we will cover the deployment of hundreds of Tanks and guns as the II SS Panzer Corps and the 5th Guards Tank Army prepare for battle! We will be making more of these miniseries now that our weekly coverage is over.
It’s the Timeghost Army that makes this all possible, so join here at: www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory
I am hoping that you saw my comment telling you I sent a message by email to timeghost email. I think it got buried in the live chat section by the time i could get back.
-- Cool, that you have not finished(but finished the Big WWII series) with coverage of WWII! I'm so glad this notification popped up right now in recommended videos.
I really appreciate this series and maybe other following going in depth into the details which was not possible during "the first series". And I guess there are still lots of topics to look at a second time and more deeper than back then.
Hats off !
8:40 - Indies german pronounciation has improved a lot - for example the SS Obergruppenführer is a complicated german word and usually butchered by americans but this one was damn good. Same for the word "Das Reich" with the complicate "ch" at the end where usually americans use a kind of Ryke like dyke. Same for Leibstandarte where he speaks out the last "e" like in Porsche which Americans usually cut and wonder, why germans do not understand when they speak about Porsch ... while germans now it with a herable and long "e".
Just to let the non german speaker know that this is really good pronounciation and that he takes care for the german words and its pronounciation and that is a lot of effort at least at this level and through a complete video.
10:15 - and I also like this animation of the conversation in this kind of setup between the 2 generals pictures looking like an old typewriter or stenograph typing the text in real time where other channels throw the full text onto the screen reading that. It is not so distracting cause you follow the narrator and the words coming in where in the full text at once methods you start to read the text while you do not listen to the voice cause your reading is faster and you will be soon ahead of the voice.
@@robertjarman3703we saw it. In pointed to Jake, and Jake answered he’d checked, but if you haven’t heard back from him by end of Sunday, please send again because then the email could have been lost in the spam filters.
You guys have done and continue to do amazing work. I genuinely think you've pioneered a whole new approach to telling the story and history of conflicts that influences your contemporaries. Keep creating content like this that rivals Sparty's Mustache in its magnificence
Every time you say “state farm,” I keep thinking you’re gonna sell insurance; it’s unavoidable
I was thinking those two words sounded familiar, but I couldn’t quite place it.
Never thought that kolkhoz is a State Farm
Who are you talking to on the phone Indy? Its the great WWII mystery of them all... Worthy of its own series...
My headcanon is that its his army of time travelling journalists as they document the war while infiltrated in the various cobelligerents' armed forces
The Man in the High Castle
He answered that in the end-of-WWII Q&A. It might have been Conrad von Hotzendorf?
General Steiner
This is absolutely amazing, keeping the channel and history alive. And one of my favorite battles of WW2 as the first episode? Hell yeah, can't wait for more of these!
You know it...
Thanks for watching, stay tuned for more!
It is interesting how the Battle of Prokhorovka came about
On the first day of the operation, the Germans overran the Russian 6th Army and ran into the dug-in 1st Russian Tank Army in the second echelon
Vatutin wanted the 1st Tank Army to counterattack, but Katukov refused and asked the front to change order,
Katukov dig-in the T-34 up to the turret in the ground and thus stopped the German advance
The Germans encountered "weaker resistance" to the east towards Prokhorovka and that's where they then turned
Unfortunately for the 5th Tank Army, they did not have time to dig in, but literally marched into battle
The rest is history
Indy, every year you are better at this.
Best channel ever!
Greetings from Colombia.
Never though I would see the TimeGhost crew giving us an even deeper analisys of my fav WW2 battle after that awesome special regular episode 2 and a hal years ago, but here we are and I cannot express houw grateful I am for it. Thank you TG crew and carry on. Excelsior!
world war 2 series on one of the most devastating battles of WW2? EXCELLENT!!
World war 2 squared?
You should make a documentary on the Forgotten 500, the American airmen shot down by the nazis on the bombing run of oilfields in Romania and saved by the Četniks in Serbia.
This doesn’t make sense.
@@DerDopWhich part?
Are you 5 😅@@DerDop
Are the plans to do more such specials on other events during the war? Cause this is great! I love that you guys are continuing to flush stuff out!
Absolutely!
@@spartacus-olssonthat’s awesome! I really appreciate all the work y’all do!
@@spartacus-olsson I wonder if you'll tell the stories of certain Axis and Allied divisions throughout the war. Especially the obscure ones like those besieged at Dunkirk in 1944-5. So fanatical was the German resolve there that they started eating sawdust instead of surrendering
You guys never chased to impress me ! Best Ww2 series and mini-series in history !
Heck yeah
"We might lose Kursk!"
"Oh no..anyway send the steppe front" Soviet..probably
And they also got pretty much mauled.
Looking forward to this series, I wrote my MA Dissertation on Prokhorovka. Can't wait to see the TGA Analyse
WHEW! I didn’t time travel after all! When I awakened and checked my subscriptions for new videos and came upon The Battle of Kursk that I know I saw 2+ years ago but it was brand new you can understand my confusion! I’m very excited you will go into detail about this battle within the battle-it deserves its own spotlight. *****Don’t forget, even though STAVKA were pretty sure Kursk was where the Germans were going to attack, Stalin actually got the battle plans from his ‘Lucy’ spy ring based in Switzerland from spy code name ‘Werther’ whom Stalin thought was in OKW. Unfortunately for history, we don’t have his name. I suspect Werther was really the British feeding info from Enigma to the Lucy ring. We know this was done because Stalin wasn’t told about Enigma and Bletchley Park, but whenever the US or UK tried to tip him off, the ever paranoid Stalin didn’t believe them so the Brits fed the info through Switzerland and the Lucy ring.
Brits cant be trusted at all.
eg operation unthinkable
In Russia, you don’t march into the motherland, motherland marches into you…
A competent and brilliant narrator with a real voice. Thank you for that!
Thanks!
Thank you for the superchat!
The war is hell playlist is missing episode 55 of war against humanity, and episode 306,307,308 and 311
probably youtube censorship
Thanks for the alert! It's been corrected.
I was under the impression that the Battle of Brody (or Dubno) was the largest tank battle of history.
Wait and see 😉
But I’m an internet commenter! I need instant gratification. 😅
By number of tanks Dubno is by far the bigger battle but if you factor in other arms like infantry, artillery and aeroplanes prokhorovka is bigger
I was thrilled to see this thumbnail pop up. Having read Martin Caiden's "The Tigers Are Burning" when I was around 10 years old, this particular battle has frequently captured my interest when considering the Eastern Front. As always, I'm really going to enjoy this miniseries! -Erik Wade, Capt., TGA
Thanks for being a member Erik.
Thanks!...for keeping the interst of history for me Alive by Making Specials like These
And thank you for watching!
Excellent! Can't wait for the rest, many thanks to Indy, Sparty, and all the rest for producing the greatest WW2 documentary the world has ever seen!
Lacking time to watch all the documentaries I'd like, I feel very lucky and immensely pleased to notice the name Prokhorovka, vaguely remembered from a video game, and find out that we're getting a whole mini-series about it. Thank you, this I gotta see!
I'm Indy Neidell, AWK AWK!! 😂
Sorry, been watching a lot of Sabaton History lately.
I actually went and watched the Panzerkampf episode again as a prelude to watching this.
Thank you for what you do, you're among the best Indy!! 🙂
*Screaming Eagle intensifies*
Was literally thinking this morning as I got my breakfast, ‘boy, I do miss the regular Sunday morning WW2 episode’, and lo and behold, here is this special! A special thank you indeed for continuing on with more in-depth WW2 coverage!
Amazing work! You've pioneered a new approach to historical storytelling about conflict, and it's clearly influencing others.
Oh, I like the new animated graphics being used for the mini-series. 2 thumbs up.
Everything I know about WW2 I learned from Indy. These videos are the best online.
Really glad to see you back in the saddle again re. WWII! Keep these mini-series up--the detail is fascinating. Thanks for posting.
I hadn't heard of Kursk until (age 10) I read Issue 1 of War Monthly in 1970, the scale of forces involved was shocking,
Quite an eye-opener, as so little info seemed available on E Front. I thought I must have read the most brutal episode of the war little knowing I still had the Winter War, the Kyiv catastrophe, doomed Sevastopol and the Crimea, the bloody, brutal Stalingrad and Caucasus Campaign, the sheer desperation of attempting to reopen routes to Leningrad, plus the appallingly dreadful Rzhev Meat grinder and Op Bagration to discover.
For all its ghastly faults and even allowing for lend lease support, I shall never truly understand just how the Soviet State managed to lose so much at the start, yet sustain a savage defence, then finally go on the offensive.
Thanx so much WWII channel. Keep up with these reports.
Fun fact: the commander of the Tiger platoon, newly reassigned from working with StuGs, is a promising young officer named Michael Wittmann.
Great idea. Really looking forward to this kind of detail on the battle.
Stay tuned for more!
Great vid, would love to see more of this kind of mini-series
YES I needed my WW2 fill after finally catching up with the channel (it took me binging all year)
As always, thank you for your work, your dedication to ensuring that history does not fall into dusty shadows. It's all to easy to forget what happened, and ignoring history which opens up for such terrible things to potentially happen again. We cannot forget what happens during war, and specially not the lessons to be learned from it.
From the fields of Prokhorovka, to the shores of Overlord
I like the idea of revisiting stuff, It'd be interesting to do something about the german pockets in france after the ally broked through (maybe a special showing what it was like in those pockets?)
Excited for this series!
You never really hear about the year 1943 in ww2 games and films/Documentarys. It's usually always 1939, invasion of poland, to 1940 invasion of france, then 1941 japanese attack pearl harbour then to 1942 in stalingrad and then skips straight to d day 1944, then to berlin 1945. Thats why I find 1943 to be most interesting.
For those interested in the engineering aspect of this battle, I recommend the book of Paul Kennedy “Engineers of Victory” notably the chapter on how to defeat the blitzkrieg. He goes in detail on the multiple ways the allies successfully defended against the German blitzkrieg, precisely on the battle of El Alamein and Kursk.
Fantastic series, love even more than ww2 series parts
Good to have that background back. Ganna bring Joakim or Per to speak of this battle in any chapter?
@@jumafallout who knows, who knows… 😉
The Death Ride Kursk does the 4th Panzer Armee's attack and the Soviet Red Army and Red Guards defense in very great detail.
Thanks guys!
excellent- and motivational!
reorganizing the amps and wires- lots and lots of wires /cables for the subwoofers to make space for a new HTPC in the rack-
comparatively speaking - should be easy after this great intro to the series
Can’t wait to watch the rest of this series…. Yall make better documentaries on ww2 then the fuckin history channel.
Belgorod in Kursk Oblast... I seem to have read about that recently...
Delicious absolutely delicious plz do cover the Kokada track, hurtgen forest, seelow hights. Perhaps even a special on the different siege's that went on during the war
Prokhorovka is certainly the most known tank battle of all time, but "Dubno Brody" during the initial invasion (1941) was far bigger in terms of number of tanks :)
Prokhorovka had around 1000 tanks all told. Dubno Brody had over 4000 (on paper) :)
Just wrong. I recommend the works of Dr. Roman Töppel, the leading expert on the Battle of Kursk
It depends on how you calculate it, Dubno Brody had units with more tanks, but tanks that fought against other tanks will be similiar to Prokhorovka since many tanks broke down before being used, some were just not used before the fight were effectively over. A good reason as to why the battle of Kursk is so well known as the biggest tank battle is due to the overall offensive being the last one the germans seemingly could turn the tide back in their favor. Dubno Brody isn't well known as it happened at a time and place that did not see much focus by historians comparred to the large encirclements happening futher north.
@@MrWolfgangtube I've seen several interviews of him, usually on channels like "Military Aviation History", etc. He certainly knows his stuff, but i am not wrong :)
@@sykeskills896 Very true. I was merely giving some pushback against Indy's opening statement of "biggest tank battle in history" :)
It’s just 90 or so seconds into the video that I say this is the LEGEND of prokhorovka and I’m gonna talk about the reality. You really didn’t even watch that far before making that comment?
Thanks for doing this. I happen to be studying this battle currently.
And thanks for watching.
Fun to hear those magic words "I'm Indy Neidell, this is World War II" again (not quite how he said it this time, but you know what I mean).
Its in the style of TIK and Stalingrad series
Informative and wonderful historical coverage video about southern part of citadel operations
The largest tank battle in history was Dubno-Brody, fought June 23, 1941.
It’s literally 90 seconds into the video when I say that this is the LEGEND of prokhorovka and I’m gonna talk about the reality. You really didn’t even watch that far before commenting?
@@Southsideindy Another person made a similar comment as well.
It was @Lockerus
We found “that guy”
We’re back boys.
Hi Indy
These mini series are interesting to watch after the full series world war 2,want more of this.
Thanks
This will be the best researched documentary of this greatest of battles. Easy call. This team is the best!!
Back in the game, I see.
Btw, just checked out the doc where you list all your sources. The 1944-45 ones are still missing. Any plans to complete them?
Hello World War II I'm pretty new to the channel ( maybe around July or August this year ) and I have thoroughly enjoyed the episodes I have watched and this Channel is one I look to for GOOD INFORMATION I also definitely enjoyed this particular episode and I'd like to ask if you plan on doing more episodes like these in the future I'd certainly like to see more on the Invasion of Poland in 1939 as it's quite undercovered in my opinion. That's really all I have to say oh wait I also wanted to say Indy your pronunciation of names was quite good. Thanks for the effort you put into your content 👋.
We do plan to have more specials like this covering different events of the war, as to what exactly though you'll just have to wait and see. Thanks for the suggestion!
Looks like I'll have to wait and see then 😂 looking forward to it though thanks for the work you put in to your content it's really just marvellous 👍
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Seems the Soviets attritional strategy included, if necessary, the sacrifice of their tank force.
It did, but their sacrifice stopped the best Germany could throw at them.
It’s Rooten Tooten Vatutin!
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And now you start to think whether you talk about 1943 or 2024 with German tanks advancing on Kursk ;)
The reality is, that the battle of Kursk is the most misunderstood battle of all times. Germany could have won, had they kept all Tigers with the SS Pz Grenadier Div. in the South. But they didn't.
A breakthrough wouldn't have meant victory. The Soviets had huge reserves and a counterattack ready against the northern sector at Opel
Nice new animation you used at around 10:55.
I would be cool to see a video about the 9th army breakout 45
Sir the war is over. As unbelievable as it is, it is finished. How about a nice special on growing grain ?
Into the Motherland...
Indy def had some references to the song. He is close with the band after all.
11:48 That guy in the forefront is just posing, pulling the trigger and nothing is happening. The bolt's not moving, no muzzle flash, no recoil, nothing. Not surprised if after the politruks saw this he was sent to the gulag.
Listening late. Thanks
This is why I LOVE YOU, Indy....
Surprising how Rotmistrov got away this time, when his faulty strategy caused the loss of hundreds of tanks, he did not survive the Battle of Minsk, a year later. Probably because despite inflicting heavy losses on the Soviets, the Germans were exhausted, give their proportional losses were quite severe, and their weaker armour manufacturing/replacement capabilities. And then you had the allies landing in Sicily, during the same period, forcing reassignment of eastern army divisions.
Did i ever said thank you for your work?
I think i did, but I'm sure that it could still be one more!
Thank you.
Funny that German tanks were operating in the Kursk area again this past August.
That image of Nikolai Vatutin reminds me of George from Seinfeld.
I had to rub my eyes! I think this is the town you take on sudden strike 4 the Kursk battle in the German campaign. Love this channel
hi Indy, looking forward to this miniseries.
Any plans for future miniseries or special episode?
We do plan to do more of this type of content in the future.
- Jake
@@WorldWarTwo hopeful, we could get an special episode on the Danish August "Revolt" of 1943 in the future. It would be nice to have someone in English go in-depth with it
I wish I could remember which show had the Soviet deployments and all the false and hidden positions that forced the Germans to fight on Russian terms.
Was Kursk the turning point of the Eastern Front or Stalingrad? There is a growing consensus building nowadays that the Battle of Moscow was. The Germans won but they were so beat up they never fully recovered.
Stalingrad is the turning point
the entire army was lost, 270K men could not be replaced, the front moved almost 250 km to the west
the tank blade was blunted in Kursk and had no more offensive actions after that
The loss at Stalingrad was the end of German advancement, it pushed back the lines hundreds of Kilometers and forced the Germans out of Crimea. The Battle of Kursk was the Germans last offensive in the East of any real size and put them over to the defensive for the rest of the war.
Are you sure about toponim "Kalinin"? It is Tver and Tver is far from the Prokhorovka
10:53 That caught me by surprise.😂
Hell of a subject matter at Christmas time. I thought maybe the Battle of the Bulge? Happy Holidays all.
maybe this is an odd question but at 2:54 the picture of hitler has someone in the background crudely circled what's that about or is it just an aberration
The German's lost because they waited to attack it came way to late the Russian's built defense in depth and the German Amy lost way to many tanks and men.
Or maybe the Germans lost because the attack was a stupid idea to begin with. When even Hitler says no further attack, perhaps he should have stuck with that.
I feel like this could've been released about 4 months earlier if you know what I mean
Well I missed it the first time Kursk was discussed in this channel, so I might as well say it now,
“Into the Morherland, the German Army marched!”
Indy!!!! Thank the gods you are here.
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What gods?
Like a good Comrade, state farm is there. Over there… where that fire is coming from.
"Into the motherland
The German army march"
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This was not the largest tank battle in history. There are multiple articles discussing this misconception. The largest is the battle at Brody and Dubno on 26-29 July 1941. The Soviets suffered a major defeat. Kursk and Prokhorovka get the press because the Soviets got to write the history after the war.
Maybe watch the series before you accuse us of making such claims? Even just the episode points out there are many many myths around this battle.
I just watched- it’s at around 90 seconds in that I say that the largest tank battle stuff is the LEGEND of Prokhorovka, and I’m going to cover the reality. You didn’t even watch that far before making your comment?
@@Southsideindy This is why I mentioned the multiple articles and why the legend is as it is. Yes, you do state the "legend of Prokhorovka" but are not clear that tank numbers is part of this legend. The first 30 seconds are what most people are going to remember. Prokhorovka was an incredible battle that deserves attention. The forces deployed in the battle of Kursk were truly massive. You are correct, I did not watch the whole video, just the first few minutes. I will correct that mistake. I guess I am just exhausted with hearing people claiming that Kursk was the largest tank battle or that Stalingrad or Kursk was the turning point for the Germans. Finding comprehensive discussions about the Brody battle is difficult, at least the several articles I have read are a bit sketchy, so this important victory/defeat is overlooked.
Thanks, Indy! Give my best to "Diapers" Von Gutenberg if you would. :o)
Kursk? Where have I heard that name recently? 12/14/24
And...today...German tanks are now back at Kursk
Into the motherland the German army marched!
How the hell could they be stopped by the Psel?
Even at it's most fierce it is a relatively minor tributary river to the Dnieper.
I do point out even that it’s more like a creek than a river here.
It's a good way to show how how even seemingly insignificant geographical obsticles can become huge issues when the weather changes. Seems like the heavy rain on the 11th plus the lack of organization on the German side undermined any efforts to cross the small waterway