Quick note: As of version 1.4 of Terraria, the 'softcore' character difficulty was renamed to 'classic,' so for the purposes of this video you can consider those two terms to be interchangeable.
Fighting the goblin army on medium core was probably the first time I felt like I was actually in a battle against them. Whenever you die, you have to plow through enemies with nothing but your copper tools in order to get them back. Then, once you do get your items, you don't have time to organize your inventory, so you just have to the best weapon you have in your hot bar. It gives you a sort of "I didn't hear no bell" type feeling whenever you respawn and makes it feel more rewarding when you finally drive them back.
Alright, sold. It definitely seems like a good middleground basically between invincibility and permadeath, so I will give it a shot. I've been putting off playing Terraria for a long time already though, so I'll probably wait until the last update gets added this year before I play it.
Haha. Master mode didn't exist when this video was made, but I wouldn't necessarily say that either expert or master are totally compatible with the relevant advice.
This is a good video, I loved how you spliced everything together. It seemed like each point was building up to the next. This channel needs more attention.
Thank you very much! I rarely work in 'list article' format, because such lists are often just crappy clickbait. So, when I had the idea for this project, I was careful to write it more like an essay despite the format. Anyway, thanks again.
Same! The very beginning of hardmode, right after wall of flesh, is a massive spike in difficulty that doesn't really give you time to do proper resource-gathering before it throws huge damage numbers at you. Just a single hardmode goblin raid catching you on the surface shortly after wall of flesh can make it practically impossible to survive. It's a really tough moment in the game, even on mediumcore. Actually, my most desired change in the last big update would be a smoother difficulty curve where different resources and monsters enter the world in smaller batches as more bosses are killed---but that kind of alteration really doesn't seem likely based on the pre-release info they've shared so far.
I died after killing all 3 mech bosses from a fucking Medusa… I was falling down and I was facing a non lit marble biome. Suddenly, a Medusa came out of nowhere, stoned me, and I hit the ground taking exactly 760 damage. I had 410 Hp, an onyx blaster, a megashark, a dart pistol, demon wings, and full hallowed armor ):
@@UserFliggaGiga Ah, see! A Medusa turning the player-character to stone over a drop is one of the exact possible circumstances listed in this video as a reason that I don't recommend hardcore. At any rate, sorry to hear that.
Great video. I think you might have missed some of what makes hardcore mode possible though. your world does not get destroyed when you die, so you can pick up a new character and take that 'second best set of gear' and continue on your way, much like mediumcore, but where a gravestone is literally a dead character in a line of characters on the way to victory. The problem with this however is that worlds only have so many heart containers and items, and this amount of loss on each death is extremely painful. I've played 933 hours of terraria, mainly on softcore with friends but I may give it another go on mediumcore solo.
That's a really excellent point; it is definitely possible to adapt hardcore into a process that is only somewhat more difficult and more lengthy than mediumcore. But the necessary loss of your best gear with each death, the necessity to create a brand new character, and the necessary loss of all spent health and mana upgrades still make that adaptation a lot more cumbersome than mediumcore---even if the world's resources hold out far into the campaign (which, as you pointed out, isn't always the case). Also, I can't shake the feeling that doing things that way heavily diminishes the impressiveness of beating the game on hardcore, in a category where achieving a widely-known difficult task (in this case, going from start to finish in the game with a new character in a new world) would be the primary driving force. At any rate, thank you for a great comment!
Outstanding video. It’s like you perfectly unpacked and articulated my every thought and feeling on this subject. I love your emphasis on the psychology of the player’s experience. Mediumcore leads you not only to play cautiously but also to make use of the enormous variety of items that you might otherwise ignore as soon as they cease to be your very best to form plans and contingencies-go bags and outposts designed to facilitate those ‘rescue runs’ when disaster inevitably strikes. I completely agree that mediumcore is the ideal difficulty for the RPG-minded player to really get the most out of the game.
I play mostly modded so mediumcore would be pure masochism as I die like A LOT, but this is such a good video. The arguments are really thought over and the video gets straight to the point without any distractions. I'm really f-ing impressed, because that's probably one of not many videos like that out there. Very good job
Well, that is a very nice comment. Thank you! To be honest, I've never tried any Terraria mods, although I'm aware that there are some rather huge ones.
@@TheGemsbok I recommend trying them. Terraria modding community is amazing and the mods they create are just uncomparable to anything else. They can even triple the length of the game
Whoa, triple, huh? That's pretty crazy. I've definitely considered getting into mods from time to time, but just never have. In particular, the big overhaul mods for titles like Terraria, FTL, and Portal 2 have piqued my interest since those base games are so excellent.
@@TheGemsbok Yes, these are truly great games even without any mods. I think that's what makes modders so determined to step up and do their best to make them even greater. Vanilla Terraria has tons of stuff to do, but when you complete it on every mode a few times it can get a bit repetitive. Here mods like Calamity, Thorium, Spirit etc shine. Each of them could make their own smaller versions of the game and add hundreds of items, enemies and tens of bosses. + the modding process itself is really simple as it only involves downloading TModLoader from Steam and selecting mods of your choice in-game.
I just wanted to comment that this is a really awesome video because it's pleasantly narrated with a convincing message. My next Terraria playthrough will definitely be mediumcore!
I've always played on Mediumcore for my 600 hours of playtime. Only recently i realised noone does it. Never understood why. Hardcore would be too tilting for me and softcore it doesnt matter of you die, and that removes the difficulty of the game for me.
Very well said! It's a wonderful middleground in terms of mechanics. I do wish items were dropped in a storage entity instead of just spilling everywhere, but otherwise it suits me nicely.
I think you fundamentally misunderstand the challenge the game presents in Softcore. Dying in and of itself is monotonous. It means that you have to restart a boss, make it back to where you last died, or survive not getting spawn killed in an event. The consequence of losing is not progressing, which is the ultimate goal-as well as time. And sure, that can be said about medium core, and having to redo past progress and/or recollect your items-however the disparity in magnitude places far more relevance and balance to the former, as it correlates to the immediate challenge at hand. A death means you just gotta try again. You're not any better of a player by doing mediumcore, you're just more patient. You're still dying to the same thing and have to beat it nonetheless. Softcore players just get to do that sooner, which is why the vast majority play it that way. Cause if you're dying, your progress is still getting stalled. It's just that dying in mediumcore stalls your progress to the point where you lose it-and in a game about overcoming bosses, it's just artificial padding and difficulty. It doesn’t fundamentally change your approach. A good player will still be a good player.
A few days ago I returned to terraria on PC (I played on xbox360 many years ago), one of my highlight experiences was the underground desert, I loved everything about it, thematic, soundtrack... But that rolling cacti mechanic in medium core REALLY makes you think about every single move and take advantage of the adversities before you
The 2nd hand items that you should have in store when u die in mediumcore: - 2nd hand weapons that are on parr with your main weapons - 2nd hand armor - grappling hook, any kind - a double jump accessory - fall damage negating accessories if u have one. - building blocks *when u find your corpse and try to sort your inventory after death quickly box yourself in, just make sure there arent any wall piercing/noclipping enemies nearby to mess u up* For minecraft players... You already know how this works. *Edit:* for those who are new, dont worry items in terraria dont really despawn like in minecraft, just make sure you dont "save and exit" on your world bc it will despawn all items on the ground.
Excellently laid out! While I personally tend to opt for teleporting home via recall potion to sort rather than walling myself off at the site of death to do it, I agree with everything you've said. Thank you for taking the time to write that up.
Currently playing Mediumcore Mastermode and it is a slow, meticulous, but also very engaging experience. I have never put this much effort and thought into the buildings and infrastructure of my Terraria world, as well as optimizing most buff opportunities through potions, prop buffs, etc. I will however say, wish the game didn't despawn your items if something happens while playing - fx. putting all your items in a Gravestone container maybe - and this level of stress is sometimes a bit too much, feeling like you're forced to keep playing when something like this happens. But still, pretty fun.
Terraria has been making a small resurgence in the TH-cam space, so I thought if anyone had ever made a mediumcore playthrough on TH-cam and this video was the first thing to show up. Guess it's time to start streaming myself trying mediumcore for the first time after 1200+ hours in Terraria.
I totally agreed brother. I played softcore for few hundreds hours already and got bored. It was fun but I want more. Now I am playing mediumcore and expert world and man it is painfully fun and all of what you say.
Great vid! Definitely going to play 1.4 with a mediumcore character. This whole aspect of the game where you have to keep your second best gear seems perfect to me. On the other hand, master mode will completely f me, so that's going to be a tough adventure
Thank you! Haha, I'm not one hundred percent sure whether my whole argument works with the addition of master mode---sounds pretty brutal! Either way, I wish you lots of enjoyment with 1.4.
This is sweet. First time playing for me and I immediately went for mediumcore. But i noticed hardly anyone does it so I felt bad and tried if it was possible to switch to classic since I progressed quite a lot in the game with nice weapons. I discovered it is not possible But this video gave me the will to continue onwards on mediumcore. Thanks man. Really inspiring and convincing Also nothing is more satisfying when you retrieve your items when you lost them upon death. Change my mind...
Awesome! And you're exactly right about item retrieval. Yeah, I originally wrote the article that became this video specifically because it seemed like no one was choosing to play in mediumcore. So I found it be hugely underrated after my own experience with it. Best of luck with your campaign!
Randomly stumbled upon this video while trying to fuss out details for my own terraria playthrough, I was actually ready to dismiss your statements on mediumcore, mainly because I hate losing my stuff in minecraft, but then after hearing your opinions on the matter, I have to say, I was wrong entirely. In a way, the lack of any meaningful punishment for if I die during a boss fight left me to view buff potions as completely worthless, despite my experience to the contrary. I think for me, I play terraria because of its RPG like feel, and the punishment for death on "classic" just doesn't have enough bite, and your point about the underworld is a perfectly valid one. I think I will do my next major playthrough of terraria on mediumcore Master Mode. Yes, I will die a lot, and lose my stuff a lot, but this should hopefully get me out of my bad habits of not planning ahead of time for things like post wall of flesh, which is how a mobile playthrough died (not enough space for all the new loot), AND a xbox 360 run died to plantera (no wings + no buffs) ...
I have been doing a hardcore run I like the stress of knowing that if you mess up you have to start all over I’m currently heading to the under world to defeat WOF
I used Terrasavr (A terraria player file editor) to make a 1 hp, Mediumcore, Master mode, All perm buffs (Fair) character. And the *RUSH* of the run to pick up your items is unreal
In minecraft, hardcore deletes your world on death. In terraria, it doesn't. This means your recovery is now far worse because you have to make another character and have plenty of heart crystals and life fruits on standby. Granted you could just make a new world and restock that way but it depends on what you want. Even if you do restock... you still have to reach the point of what you need to restock on. In a way it's cheating, but in another way... it's part of the game. (no i have not done hardcore yet. i did try master out on a server though. im just going through all modes in a sort of progression. all that increases is the game difficulty, character difficulty, and world size. with journey unlocked after beating the game in hardcore master on a large world.)
huge bump! the reason I burned out on this game repeatedly was because the tension ran out after a certain point. the only way to stay entertained was to basically turn the game into a boss rush, neglecting most of the other mechanics in the process, and at that point the way gear starts rapidly becoming obsolete made everything feel rightfully pointless to do. but this difficulty gives you a reason to hold on to old gear, and poses a serious inconvenience if you don't take your time.
Nice video and information! I actually currently play on Medium Core on my videos. I enjoy building and structuring, but I also enjoy the challenge of the game also.
Thanks for a nice comment! Just as you say, it's a great difficulty setting for a balance of Terraria's different benefits. And it's a great choice for your videos, because mediumcore keeps exploration and combat exciting!
Thanks for making me remember the pain of going thru the spider cave where i died 10+ times even tho I had good armor (about where you would fight eoc) I just couldn’t see what i was fighting lol I was an idiot
Ha, ouch. Yeah, the spiders are a surprisingly hard enemy type: spawn in a dark area, traverse directly at the player across walls, surrounded by webs that slow player movement, and very resistant to knockback.
Just saw this video a couple hours into my first single player mediumcore playthrough. And although i have not even beaten a single boss, I can definitely say it is way more fun than softcore. But I would say mediumcore wouldn't be great multiplayer with friends for a number of reasons but great video!
Couldn't really comment on that, as I've actually never played Terraria multiplayer. Could be fun to try at some point, though. Anyway, thank you very much for the comment!
Im going to try mediumcore, but dont know if i should pick normal or expert mode bc i definetly not gonna try it on master. Its a hard decision because i want almost all goodies a world can provide, yet dont struggle rlly bad, even tho i haven`t played normal mode at all, only expert and master. Aside from my question-Really good video!
Personally, I have never combined mediumcore with a difficulty above normal. If you're experienced and you're fairly sure that would be too easy for you, then go with expert. But otherwise normal is my recommendation.
Ah, King Kuro, if only I could turn every comment about how I should have more subs into more subs, then all would be well. But sadly, I am not that good at alchemy. Anyway, thanks very much for the kind sentiment!
I played meduimcore for the first time as a mage a while ago and honestly it was one of the most enjoyable play throughs ever. And I died in hell in the stupidest way possible lmao
The Gemsbok yea, I remember this one death that I clipped one Xbox and it got 1000 views somehow. I was throwing bombs at a obsidian tower and dashed to get out and my shield hit an imp that teleported right in front of me. Bunch of my stuff fell in lava. Almost hit the ALT-F4 before I realized what I was playing
This video is really fun to watch! I love the gameplay footage. And it really makes me wonder why people would play in any setting OTHER than mediumcore. (Except if you're a n00b like me that just likes to dilly-dally around in softcore...)
Because death is absolutely designed to be part of Terraria, and losing all your items on death is very, VERY punishing, and for a lot of people, *frustrating*. Mediumcore and Hardcore were never integral to the game, they were afterthoughts that were added in - which is fine - but to recommend mediumcore to anyone who isn't already familiar with the game just seems like a quick way to turn newcomers off.
Excellent video! The recovery runs reminds of the souls games which is a huge fact why they are so special. I am about to play it again in a new world after 6 hours of gameplay. What difficulty would you recommend me to start with? Expert, or classic? Thanks!
Holy cow this video's good. Before this I just saw mediumcore as a mode the devs put in that they really didn't give much thought. Now though? You brought up good arguments for playing this mode, and I may give it a shot after my calamity mod expert mode softcore playthrough. The one problem I still have with it is that it points you in 1 specific path. What I mean by this is that there will always be a "best" way to do a task or fight a boss that will always be better than trying your own thing. In softcore, there are no reprecussions for trying weird, wacky strats, which incentivizes exploration and experimentation. In mediumcore, you're much more inclined to fall back onto that "safe technique" since the risk is higher. However, i'd say that this mode is perfect for challenge runs, where you try to beat the game with certain self imposed goals and restrictions, since that tension you talked about makes it so you can't, in your words, just throw bodies at the problem. Instead, in that case, it gives some proper meaning behind the challenge aspect. 11/10 video, real eye-opener!
Thank you for a very kind and thorough comment! I've very glad to hear you enjoyed the video. I see what you're saying about optimization vs. experimentation, and it's definitely true that you try to play the most 'optimal' way in mediumcore, which might possibly be more enjoyable for a new player than one who already knows the game inside and out. In that sense, I could definitely understand someone using softcore as a kind of sandbox mode---not just for construction, but for combat as well.
A few weeks ago i started playing terraria in mediumcore with a bit of experience, the mode was classic, it was hard with just few experience so i watch YT terraria content to learn more about terraria, while watching some of vids, i was wondering why the items doesn't dropped when they dies until i realize that they are in classic mode
Would you recomend playing medium core in a multiplayer playthrough as im gonna start a playthrough with a friend when he gets terraira in a month and im wondering if you would recomend playing on medium core in a multiplayer playthrough over soft core mode
Hmm, I'm not sure. I've never played Terraria multiplayer. I'd be leaning toward softcore for that, but I think you'd need to decide with your teammate about what kind of experience you both want it to be.
lmao no. mediumcore is no a "survival game". no game where I can easily get back to base via quitting the game is a survival game. no mediumcore is one thing only. and that's misery.
I'm not sure I might try medium core now.Edit: it's going ok I had to cheat and bring my OP guy on to get my map cleared a bit and go into the dungeon so I dont die to the guardian. But it's fun and I'm enjoying it.
Enjoyed your arguments for playing mediumcore. I'm playing Mediumcore Expert mode (1.3.5.3) with no recall potions and no magic mirror. And a rule that I am only allowed to save and exit only when on the spawn point (center) or a bed with set spawn point. So far I'm still pre-hard mode and Skeletron is difficult. ^^ PS: I'm *so* fú***ìng scared of the Underworld. PPS: And most importantly I need to keep the count of loose/thrown items in the world below 200, otherwise they do will start to despawn. Luckily e.g. 200 dirt blocks count as 1 item when they are exactly on the same place. Check the Terraria wiki.
Ok you have a lot of good points hopefully this should help me with my mediumcore run P.S: is it ok if I have a soft core character solely for building and gathering and a mediumcore character for everything else?
It is okay to play in any way. Every aspect of how you play is totally up to you! This video is just my argument for one (typically unpopular) way of playing.
Ive always played softcore character in an expert mode thats normal for me but never felt a challenge before so im now playing mediumcore expert and even trying out master mode 1.4 now someday
My only problem with medium-core is the slim chance of permanently losing your items. This doesnt matter for most pre-hardmode weapons, but take something like the nights edge. You require the murmasa, a sword only found in the skeletal dungeon, to craft it. But if you choose to go this route of swords, and lose your items permanently enough times. It will eventually become impossible to craft that sword. The fact that Terraria is a finite world makes me much less comfortable about doing medium-core.
In addition, theres also the insane amount of work needed to get back your items if they are permanently lost or despawn. Especially if your recovery runs fail enough times. For me it would just turn into too much work. I dont want to spend an hour mining all the ores to reclaim my stuff.
It is true that there is always some risk of permanently losing items, but the odds of this happening diminish more and more as you get further into the campaign---as the quality of your sets of back-up equipment for recovery runs get better and better.
@@TheGemsbok While this is true, the simple fact that there are a finite number of times you can permanently lose items before you are unable to make certain items and weapons. Though i guess you can always go to another world to collect more. Regardless, still a great video!
To anybody looking to delete your easy profile to start the second difficulty profile...store your weapons in a chest before you do so because they will be there it you store them once you start the second difficulty profile...I had to find out the hard way because he didn’t mention that
Sorry that happened. To be clear: there's never any need to delete anything! As far as I know, in Terraria you can have as many characters as you want at all the different difficulty settings simultaneously.
Like I say in the video, I didn't actually try mediumcore until my 3rd character (although it was the first one I brought into hardmode). So I wholeheartedly endorse your plan!
I think terraria is so unfair to be played in mediumcore or hardcore. I mean, I'm playing in master mode and if every time I died i would drop every item and never progress. In my opinion Terraria was designed to play in classic mode the other two options are just to be "annoying".
I'm a new player and I thought softcore is better but when I played it for like 3days there is no tense I do not get scared of bosses but in mediumcore I'm hella scared to lose my items if the boss kills me😂😂
I have a challenge for mediumcore The Terraria Minecraft challenge. Rules(1.4 Edit) - Mediumcore Character - Weapons are: * Melee(excluding flails and yoyos) * Ranged(excluding guns) * Summoner (excluding whips) - Use Minecraft Texture Pack
Interesting challenge idea! In all honesty, I haven't played Minecraft since it was in public alpha. But I would wager there are plenty of big fans of both games, who may be keen to try what you're proposing there.
First playthrough, I went for mediumcore thinking it was the normal way to play the game (they hadn't renamed softcore "classic" yet). I played for like 10 hours, made a hellevator, and acquired some decent stuff. I had heard you couldn't access the dungeon before beating skeletron, but I did go down anyway, surprised that there wasn't anything to stop me. The guardian killed me and I essentially lost everything. Never played mediumcore again since.
One time my recovery run takes about 5 hours. I was playing latenight and just before finnish i died and that was so nerve wrecking. I just can't go to sleep because I had to get the goods back. Finally i got them back but that was the most horrifying gaming experience in my whole life. It was my first playtrough on this game ever and items that i have was +20h playtime.
True, im a total newbie. I enjoyed the struggle of mediumcore-master mode, until my items got deleted bcs i died and pirate invasion came. Bcs the game has certain amount of "items" the ground can hold. So yeah, im asking myself should i just use my old char and make a new world or not. But really its really traumatic. Bcs those i lost are 60-70% to the end game items. And i spend 126 hours for this chars alone
Oof, master mode. I do wish they had made it so that items dropped into a chest or crate of some kind in mediumcore, instead of just spilling out. That would make it a lot more reasonable to play mediumcore in expert or master.
Reasons not to 1.i don’t want to make 52 molten pickaxes 2.could form bad habits 3.hardmode 4.recovery run works both ways 5.does not fix most problems 6.if you want the game to actually be harder other then early hardmode and new game play expert or self imposed rules I’m not saying your simps plz no bully
While I respect the premises upon which you base your argument for mediumcore, I find the aspects that the mode adds to be for more monotonous than intense. Perhaps it's just my personal experience playing almost exclusively on expert and now master mode and having zero interest in ever starting up a normal world, but the joy and intensity I derive from playing terraria lies in conquering the world and it's bosses in increasingly difficult battles. The only real difference between classic and mediumcore at that point is the amount of time you waste retrieving your gear whenever you die, because there's never any real risk of true loss.
They're just different ways of adding difficulty. Expert and master increase the immediate difficulty of obstacles in the world, whereas mediumcore and hardcore increase the penalty for failure. Both forms cause the player to need to play and/or prepare better; the former leans more toward skillful combat and optimal equipment, and the latter more toward cautious preparation and decisionmaking. Both are valid options (although I wouldn't necessarily consider them highly compatible with each other, especially for newer players).
Not after a certain amount of time, but they do despawn if many other items/materials drop in the world before reclaiming them (as can happen from large mining operations or fighting a wave-based event), or if you quit out of the game.
I have not played master mode, so I can not speak to whether it would mix well with mediumcore, nor whether it is a good game mode in general (although I assume it is a fine way to increase challenge).
I’ve decided not to do this on my third week because I choose to be kind to myself but if I ever get bored, which I likely will, I’ll take your advice. Thanks.
The only reason I generally don't play Mediumcore is simply because I really don't like the normal difficulty. I've played so much on expert and master that it just... Feels wrong. You give me expert mode, I pick it. You give me master mode, I pick it. And since dying on master mode happens a lot, and I generally die when there's either tons of enemies or on a strong boss. And if it's the former, then my items are probably going to be deleted. That is the only reason I don't play on Mediumcore, but I might give it a try later.
Perfectly understandable! One very nice thing about Terraria is just how many options there are for how to play, which allows players a lot of freedom to find something that suits them. For me, mediumcore and normal strikes the right balance (and I made this video because I think it's an often-overlooked combination); for someone else, though, softcore with expert or master could feel better.
I've played Terraria ages ago, and am picking it up again, I'm a noob, and don't know the progression at all, and I play mostly building now and ignore bosses, but I still play Hardcore to keep myself on my toes the whole time. I definitely see the downside of losing the ability to further my creations after death, but if I really want to I can play the world with a new character...
Definitely a unique playstyle! I can't imagine there are many people that would call themselves primarily builders in Terraria, yet who play on hardcore. You could be a founding member of a very small club, haha.
@@TheGemsbok after that world ended, (although I still have the save, I just died) I started medium core and just now finished my first major recovery run.. that shit was so fucking intense.. Lost my demonite gear out past a jungle at the first meteorite....
Hahaha, EXACTLY! Some viewers think I'm crazy for liking recovery runs in mediumcore, but I honestly think there is very little else in Terraria that can bring the player to that peak of emotion.
So yeah today i did something stupid..i thought u need ur character to be mediumcore to be able to play expert..but i was wrong so yeah Expert plus mediumcore feels like hell
I'll do you one better---recall *items* for infinite uses! Now, if you can manage to use recall items or potions swiftly enough to never once let death befall you under any circumstances, then you are a very dextrous and skilled player, and you would likely do fine in hardcore mode!
For refrence all of this is with me playing on master mode. recovery runs are a mixed bag. they're fun and intresting for the first few times. but after that they're just annoying. their is no head cannon to me getting my drops from a faild boss for the 100th time. especially if it's something like the wall of flesh. leading to the pause, save & quit method. if you think/know you're about to die you just hit escape go to settings and hit "save and quit". then load back in and BOOM you're back at base safe and sound. the method is so good that theirs no reason not to use it even on classic/softcore. why suicide and lose money when you can just go back for free? this is all coming from someone who's only ever played mediumcore up until a few days ago btw. got something like 200+ hours on mediumcore so i'm no stranger to it. Just at a certain point it's dumb. A lot of the posatives you listed just go away and more negatives start to pile up. Losing my gear due to a game crash or power outage is not satisfying, enjoyable, or challenging. it's just misery. which i don't think is your point. ....though thinking about it it might be mine. actually that might be the only reason to play mediumcore at this point.
not gonna lie, you got a point... in pre hardmode or on normal, in expert and even more so master hardmode is unfair for mediumcore players, if someone enjoyed dying in 2 hits even in the best armour then well... good for them but there is a reson why all the long term terraria players that played the game multiple times to the end play on classic, its less anoying, the bosses are a challange enough and if someone thinks they're not... calamity... and no going through the map 5 times for the stuff you dropped in some cave
I'd recommend a 'small' map for a first-time mediumcore playthrough. I think you'll find it plenty large, and recovery runs in bigger worlds can get a bit ridiculous at times.
@@TheGemsbok it's going to be my first time running the game. I've done about 10 hours across a couple of maps to see what it's like. I want the challenge of mediumcore as I started on that. Will take you up on the small map suggestion I think.
I think you're in for a very fun time! I encourage you to embrace the roleplaying aspect of the game as much possible---really pays psychological dividends when facing mediumcore's harsh penalty for death.
I personally think that mediumcore and hardcore are both stupid; yes, stupid! Because, on mediumcore/hardcore, the game becomes almost unbeatable. I mean, armor from ores is nearly impossible to obtain. Softcore is the best. NOTHING can change my mind. And if you think otherwise, you are legitimate stupid. Because that would also make you almost cry when you died, even on mediumcore, because of your hard-earned zenith, cell phone, and ankh shield all being gone, and also the fact that you dropped them in an area that you forgot how to reach afterwards. On softcore, you still care and avoid death the best you can, there is nothing different about that. And extra punishment is a no-no. So there, solid proof that softcore is the BEST difficulty.
Dying in hell in this mode over a lava lake has to be one of the most terrible feelings, along with giving up all hope of getting your items back and then saving and quitting
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Quick note: As of version 1.4 of Terraria, the 'softcore' character difficulty was renamed to 'classic,' so for the purposes of this video you can consider those two terms to be interchangeable.
Agree
Fighting the goblin army on medium core was probably the first time I felt like I was actually in a battle against them. Whenever you die, you have to plow through enemies with nothing but your copper tools in order to get them back. Then, once you do get your items, you don't have time to organize your inventory, so you just have to the best weapon you have in your hot bar. It gives you a sort of "I didn't hear no bell" type feeling whenever you respawn and makes it feel more rewarding when you finally drive them back.
Very well said! That's exactly the kind of immersion and emergent gameplay mediumcore can provide.
Alright, sold. It definitely seems like a good middleground basically between invincibility and permadeath, so I will give it a shot. I've been putting off playing Terraria for a long time already though, so I'll probably wait until the last update gets added this year before I play it.
Well, softcore isn't *quite* invincibility, but anyway I'm glad to hear you'll give mediumcore a shot.
The Gemsbok I’m playing master after never playing expert. Ya fuck mediumcore
Haha. Master mode didn't exist when this video was made, but I wouldn't necessarily say that either expert or master are totally compatible with the relevant advice.
@@TheGemsbok haha yea, if I ever played classic I would definitely try mediumcore
1.4 is out
Those dodges on the big bee were clutch maaan.
Ha, thanks. I did manage to get that kill, although things got a bit dicey right at the end of the fight there.
This is a good video, I loved how you spliced everything together. It seemed like each point was building up to the next. This channel needs more attention.
Thank you very much! I rarely work in 'list article' format, because such lists are often just crappy clickbait. So, when I had the idea for this project, I was careful to write it more like an essay despite the format. Anyway, thanks again.
Whenever I tried doing Hardcore characters I would usually die either right away, at the wall of flesh, or soon after defeating the wall of flesh.
Same! The very beginning of hardmode, right after wall of flesh, is a massive spike in difficulty that doesn't really give you time to do proper resource-gathering before it throws huge damage numbers at you. Just a single hardmode goblin raid catching you on the surface shortly after wall of flesh can make it practically impossible to survive. It's a really tough moment in the game, even on mediumcore.
Actually, my most desired change in the last big update would be a smoother difficulty curve where different resources and monsters enter the world in smaller batches as more bosses are killed---but that kind of alteration really doesn't seem likely based on the pre-release info they've shared so far.
I died after killing all 3 mech bosses from a fucking Medusa… I was falling down and I was facing a non lit marble biome. Suddenly, a Medusa came out of nowhere, stoned me, and I hit the ground taking exactly 760 damage.
I had 410 Hp, an onyx blaster, a megashark, a dart pistol, demon wings, and full hallowed armor ):
@@TheGemsbok -
@@UserFliggaGiga Ah, see! A Medusa turning the player-character to stone over a drop is one of the exact possible circumstances listed in this video as a reason that I don't recommend hardcore. At any rate, sorry to hear that.
@@TheGemsbok oh, I have 600 hours of it. So I am looking for a challenge
Terraria mediumcore is 2D minecraft
Great video. I think you might have missed some of what makes hardcore mode possible though. your world does not get destroyed when you die, so you can pick up a new character and take that 'second best set of gear' and continue on your way, much like mediumcore, but where a gravestone is literally a dead character in a line of characters on the way to victory. The problem with this however is that worlds only have so many heart containers and items, and this amount of loss on each death is extremely painful. I've played 933 hours of terraria, mainly on softcore with friends but I may give it another go on mediumcore solo.
That's a really excellent point; it is definitely possible to adapt hardcore into a process that is only somewhat more difficult and more lengthy than mediumcore.
But the necessary loss of your best gear with each death, the necessity to create a brand new character, and the necessary loss of all spent health and mana upgrades still make that adaptation a lot more cumbersome than mediumcore---even if the world's resources hold out far into the campaign (which, as you pointed out, isn't always the case).
Also, I can't shake the feeling that doing things that way heavily diminishes the impressiveness of beating the game on hardcore, in a category where achieving a widely-known difficult task (in this case, going from start to finish in the game with a new character in a new world) would be the primary driving force.
At any rate, thank you for a great comment!
Outstanding video. It’s like you perfectly unpacked and articulated my every thought and feeling on this subject. I love your emphasis on the psychology of the player’s experience. Mediumcore leads you not only to play cautiously but also to make use of the enormous variety of items that you might otherwise ignore as soon as they cease to be your very best to form plans and contingencies-go bags and outposts designed to facilitate those ‘rescue runs’ when disaster inevitably strikes. I completely agree that mediumcore is the ideal difficulty for the RPG-minded player to really get the most out of the game.
I didn't really expect much from this video, but wow. Very detailed, very analytical. Great job!
Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
I play mostly modded so mediumcore would be pure masochism as I die like A LOT, but this is such a good video. The arguments are really thought over and the video gets straight to the point without any distractions. I'm really f-ing impressed, because that's probably one of not many videos like that out there. Very good job
Well, that is a very nice comment. Thank you! To be honest, I've never tried any Terraria mods, although I'm aware that there are some rather huge ones.
@@TheGemsbok I recommend trying them. Terraria modding community is amazing and the mods they create are just uncomparable to anything else. They can even triple the length of the game
Whoa, triple, huh? That's pretty crazy. I've definitely considered getting into mods from time to time, but just never have. In particular, the big overhaul mods for titles like Terraria, FTL, and Portal 2 have piqued my interest since those base games are so excellent.
@@TheGemsbok Yes, these are truly great games even without any mods. I think that's what makes modders so determined to step up and do their best to make them even greater. Vanilla Terraria has tons of stuff to do, but when you complete it on every mode a few times it can get a bit repetitive. Here mods like Calamity, Thorium, Spirit etc shine. Each of them could make their own smaller versions of the game and add hundreds of items, enemies and tens of bosses. + the modding process itself is really simple as it only involves downloading TModLoader from Steam and selecting mods of your choice in-game.
I just wanted to comment that this is a really awesome video because it's pleasantly narrated with a convincing message. My next Terraria playthrough will definitely be mediumcore!
Thank you for that very nice comment! I hope you enjoy your time with mediumcore.
I've always played on Mediumcore for my 600 hours of playtime. Only recently i realised noone does it. Never understood why. Hardcore would be too tilting for me and softcore it doesnt matter of you die, and that removes the difficulty of the game for me.
Very well said! It's a wonderful middleground in terms of mechanics. I do wish items were dropped in a storage entity instead of just spilling everywhere, but otherwise it suits me nicely.
I used to play mediumcore I thought It was the easiest difficulty xd
I think you fundamentally misunderstand the challenge the game presents in Softcore. Dying in and of itself is monotonous. It means that you have to restart a boss, make it back to where you last died, or survive not getting spawn killed in an event. The consequence of losing is not progressing, which is the ultimate goal-as well as time. And sure, that can be said about medium core, and having to redo past progress and/or recollect your items-however the disparity in magnitude places far more relevance and balance to the former, as it correlates to the immediate challenge at hand. A death means you just gotta try again.
You're not any better of a player by doing mediumcore, you're just more patient. You're still dying to the same thing and have to beat it nonetheless. Softcore players just get to do that sooner, which is why the vast majority play it that way. Cause if you're dying, your progress is still getting stalled. It's just that dying in mediumcore stalls your progress to the point where you lose it-and in a game about overcoming bosses, it's just artificial padding and difficulty. It doesn’t fundamentally change your approach. A good player will still be a good player.
@@Auvisome Well said and thx for you answer almost a year later. :D But for me Mediumcore is still the way to go. It just feels right! :)
@@moritzh.314 You’d get filtered in master mode 💀
A few days ago I returned to terraria on PC (I played on xbox360 many years ago), one of my highlight experiences was the underground desert, I loved everything about it, thematic, soundtrack... But that rolling cacti mechanic in medium core REALLY makes you think about every single move and take advantage of the adversities before you
Og desert was underrated
The 2nd hand items that you should have in store when u die in mediumcore:
- 2nd hand weapons that are on parr with your main weapons
- 2nd hand armor
- grappling hook, any kind
- a double jump accessory
- fall damage negating accessories if u have one.
- building blocks *when u find your corpse and try to sort your inventory after death quickly box yourself in, just make sure there arent any wall piercing/noclipping enemies nearby to mess u up*
For minecraft players... You already know how this works.
*Edit:* for those who are new, dont worry items in terraria dont really despawn like in minecraft, just make sure you dont "save and exit" on your world bc it will despawn all items on the ground.
Excellently laid out! While I personally tend to opt for teleporting home via recall potion to sort rather than walling myself off at the site of death to do it, I agree with everything you've said. Thank you for taking the time to write that up.
Currently playing Mediumcore Mastermode and it is a slow, meticulous, but also very engaging experience. I have never put this much effort and thought into the buildings and infrastructure of my Terraria world, as well as optimizing most buff opportunities through potions, prop buffs, etc.
I will however say, wish the game didn't despawn your items if something happens while playing - fx. putting all your items in a Gravestone container maybe - and this level of stress is sometimes a bit too much, feeling like you're forced to keep playing when something like this happens. But still, pretty fun.
Terraria has been making a small resurgence in the TH-cam space, so I thought if anyone had ever made a mediumcore playthrough on TH-cam and this video was the first thing to show up.
Guess it's time to start streaming myself trying mediumcore for the first time after 1200+ hours in Terraria.
This video is high caliber. I hope more people see it.
Thank you very much! (I hope so, too. Haha.)
true dude
Well. I’ll try Mediumcore. Since my soft core character is op already :/
Awesome; I hope you enjoy it!
The Gemsbok *i died with my main and second set. I don’t have a third*
Oof, that sucks. Hopefully the second set at least fell closer to the surface, so your attempts to regain them won't take too long.
The Gemsbok *they were both at the same spot ;-;*
*and in the dungeon*
I totally agreed brother. I played softcore for few hundreds hours already and got bored. It was fun but I want more. Now I am playing mediumcore and expert world and man it is painfully fun and all of what you say.
Great vid! Definitely going to play 1.4 with a mediumcore character. This whole aspect of the game where you have to keep your second best gear seems perfect to me.
On the other hand, master mode will completely f me, so that's going to be a tough adventure
Thank you! Haha, I'm not one hundred percent sure whether my whole argument works with the addition of master mode---sounds pretty brutal! Either way, I wish you lots of enjoyment with 1.4.
This is sweet. First time playing for me and I immediately went for mediumcore. But i noticed hardly anyone does it so I felt bad and tried if it was possible to switch to classic since I progressed quite a lot in the game with nice weapons. I discovered it is not possible But this video gave me the will to continue onwards on mediumcore. Thanks man. Really inspiring and convincing
Also nothing is more satisfying when you retrieve your items when you lost them upon death. Change my mind...
Awesome! And you're exactly right about item retrieval.
Yeah, I originally wrote the article that became this video specifically because it seemed like no one was choosing to play in mediumcore. So I found it be hugely underrated after my own experience with it.
Best of luck with your campaign!
The Gemsbok thanks man. I subbed to your channel. Really great stuff. I really like the detail and effort you put in your vids.
Thanks! Currently aiming to produce a video every month. The next one will be another game vid (although I haven't definitely chosen which one yet).
The Gemsbok “enter the gungeon “ maybe. Been a while last i played. Either way sounds awesome. Can’t wait.
Randomly stumbled upon this video while trying to fuss out details for my own terraria playthrough, I was actually ready to dismiss your statements on mediumcore, mainly because I hate losing my stuff in minecraft, but then after hearing your opinions on the matter, I have to say, I was wrong entirely. In a way, the lack of any meaningful punishment for if I die during a boss fight left me to view buff potions as completely worthless, despite my experience to the contrary. I think for me, I play terraria because of its RPG like feel, and the punishment for death on "classic" just doesn't have enough bite, and your point about the underworld is a perfectly valid one. I think I will do my next major playthrough of terraria on mediumcore Master Mode. Yes, I will die a lot, and lose my stuff a lot, but this should hopefully get me out of my bad habits of not planning ahead of time for things like post wall of flesh, which is how a mobile playthrough died (not enough space for all the new loot), AND a xbox 360 run died to plantera (no wings + no buffs) ...
I have been doing a hardcore run I like the stress of knowing that if you mess up you have to start all over I’m currently heading to the under world to defeat WOF
Very cool! Seems too hardcore for me (well-named option, I guess). But I wish you the best of luck with your playthrough.
I used Terrasavr (A terraria player file editor) to make a 1 hp, Mediumcore, Master mode, All perm buffs (Fair) character. And the *RUSH* of the run to pick up your items is unreal
rush goes away after you do it often enough. the misery stays though
In minecraft, hardcore deletes your world on death.
In terraria, it doesn't.
This means your recovery is now far worse because you have to make another character and have plenty of heart crystals and life fruits on standby. Granted you could just make a new world and restock that way but it depends on what you want. Even if you do restock... you still have to reach the point of what you need to restock on.
In a way it's cheating, but in another way... it's part of the game.
(no i have not done hardcore yet. i did try master out on a server though. im just going through all modes in a sort of progression. all that increases is the game difficulty, character difficulty, and world size. with journey unlocked after beating the game in hardcore master on a large world.)
hardcore doesn't delete your world in minecraft anymore, it turns you to spectator mode
huge bump! the reason I burned out on this game repeatedly was because the tension ran out after a certain point. the only way to stay entertained was to basically turn the game into a boss rush, neglecting most of the other mechanics in the process, and at that point the way gear starts rapidly becoming obsolete made everything feel rightfully pointless to do. but this difficulty gives you a reason to hold on to old gear, and poses a serious inconvenience if you don't take your time.
Nice video and information! I actually currently play on Medium Core on my videos. I enjoy building and structuring, but I also enjoy the challenge of the game also.
Thanks for a nice comment! Just as you say, it's a great difficulty setting for a balance of Terraria's different benefits. And it's a great choice for your videos, because mediumcore keeps exploration and combat exciting!
I do softcore but I suck at most games I play but still have fun, either way good video!
This is great. Well done. I think you’ve convinced me.
Haha, thanks! I'm glad you liked the video, and I hope you enjoy the challenge!
Thanks for making me remember the pain of going thru the spider cave where i died 10+ times even tho I had good armor (about where you would fight eoc) I just couldn’t see what i was fighting lol I was an idiot
Ha, ouch. Yeah, the spiders are a surprisingly hard enemy type: spawn in a dark area, traverse directly at the player across walls, surrounded by webs that slow player movement, and very resistant to knockback.
2:55
"If there is no fear of failure, there is no satisfaction in success."
So. TRUE.
I’m playing Mediumcore in Master Mode, and it’s pretty fun.
Hardcore is not so hard when you realize you can just save and exit and when you join back you are automatically teleported to spawn.
True! This video is certainly addressed to players who would avoid that kind of exploit.
Just saw this video a couple hours into my first single player mediumcore playthrough. And although i have not even beaten a single boss, I can definitely say it is way more fun than softcore. But I would say mediumcore wouldn't be great multiplayer with friends for a number of reasons but great video!
Couldn't really comment on that, as I've actually never played Terraria multiplayer. Could be fun to try at some point, though. Anyway, thank you very much for the comment!
Im going to try mediumcore, but dont know if i should pick normal or expert mode bc i definetly not gonna try it on master. Its a hard decision because i want almost all goodies a world can provide, yet dont struggle rlly bad, even tho i haven`t played normal mode at all, only expert and master. Aside from my question-Really good video!
Personally, I have never combined mediumcore with a difficulty above normal. If you're experienced and you're fairly sure that would be too easy for you, then go with expert. But otherwise normal is my recommendation.
@@TheGemsbok OHHHHH. that explains why i had such a different expirence from you. yeah I played mediumcore on master and expert.
How do you only have 581 subs? this is a really good video.
Ah, King Kuro, if only I could turn every comment about how I should have more subs into more subs, then all would be well. But sadly, I am not that good at alchemy. Anyway, thanks very much for the kind sentiment!
I played meduimcore for the first time as a mage a while ago and honestly it was one of the most enjoyable play throughs ever. And I died in hell in the stupidest way possible lmao
Haha awesome. I really love how mediumcore has the potential to make some of the deaths especially memorable.
The Gemsbok yea, I remember this one death that I clipped one Xbox and it got 1000 views somehow. I was throwing bombs at a obsidian tower and dashed to get out and my shield hit an imp that teleported right in front of me. Bunch of my stuff fell in lava. Almost hit the ALT-F4 before I realized what I was playing
V nice. Editing gets better in every video. Keep at it m8.
Thank you very much! Will do.
100% agree. Great video dude, keep going
Thanks very much! Actively working on my next game video, which I hope to publish this month.
I dont know why...But when I play minecraft, Im fine with losing my stuff if I die, I just go grab em´....But in terraria...its scary
Haha, 'scary' is a fair assessment. But sometimes scary can be good!
It's My first game and I set it on mediumcore and I can't relate enough to the recovery runs I always feel so desperate just to get my valuables back
Honestly softcore/classic feels trivially easy on normal and even expert, this adds a great challenge without the frustration of master mode
On expert it’s hell for me.
Thank you. Sounds really fun, I need to try as son as possible.
This video is really fun to watch! I love the gameplay footage. And it really makes me wonder why people would play in any setting OTHER than mediumcore. (Except if you're a n00b like me that just likes to dilly-dally around in softcore...)
Thank you! Nothing wrong with dilly-dallying, of course, if that's your thing . . .
Because death is absolutely designed to be part of Terraria, and losing all your items on death is very, VERY punishing, and for a lot of people, *frustrating*. Mediumcore and Hardcore were never integral to the game, they were afterthoughts that were added in - which is fine - but to recommend mediumcore to anyone who isn't already familiar with the game just seems like a quick way to turn newcomers off.
Excellent video! The recovery runs reminds of the souls games which is a huge fact why they are so special. I am about to play it again in a new world after 6 hours of gameplay. What difficulty would you recommend me to start with? Expert, or classic? Thanks!
If you've only ever played 6 hours, I'd personally recommend classic. My own mediumcore playthrough was in a classic world.
@@TheGemsbok thank you
2:55 Where there is no peril in the task, there can be no glory in its accomplishment -Pierre Corneille
Holy cow this video's good. Before this I just saw mediumcore as a mode the devs put in that they really didn't give much thought. Now though? You brought up good arguments for playing this mode, and I may give it a shot after my calamity mod expert mode softcore playthrough. The one problem I still have with it is that it points you in 1 specific path. What I mean by this is that there will always be a "best" way to do a task or fight a boss that will always be better than trying your own thing. In softcore, there are no reprecussions for trying weird, wacky strats, which incentivizes exploration and experimentation. In mediumcore, you're much more inclined to fall back onto that "safe technique" since the risk is higher. However, i'd say that this mode is perfect for challenge runs, where you try to beat the game with certain self imposed goals and restrictions, since that tension you talked about makes it so you can't, in your words, just throw bodies at the problem. Instead, in that case, it gives some proper meaning behind the challenge aspect. 11/10 video, real eye-opener!
Thank you for a very kind and thorough comment! I've very glad to hear you enjoyed the video. I see what you're saying about optimization vs. experimentation, and it's definitely true that you try to play the most 'optimal' way in mediumcore, which might possibly be more enjoyable for a new player than one who already knows the game inside and out. In that sense, I could definitely understand someone using softcore as a kind of sandbox mode---not just for construction, but for combat as well.
I have anger issues so ive made a rule for myself not to play mediumcore or hard but if i ever fix that ill try it i promise
I have deleted too many play throughs.
A few weeks ago i started playing terraria in mediumcore with a bit of experience, the mode was classic, it was hard with just few experience so i watch YT terraria content to learn more about terraria, while watching some of vids, i was wondering why the items doesn't dropped when they dies until i realize that they are in classic mode
nice vid, keep up the good stuff
Thank you! I will indeed keep up the good stuff.
Would you recomend playing medium core in a multiplayer playthrough as im gonna start a playthrough with a friend when he gets terraira in a month and im wondering if you would recomend playing on medium core in a multiplayer playthrough over soft core mode
Hmm, I'm not sure. I've never played Terraria multiplayer. I'd be leaning toward softcore for that, but I think you'd need to decide with your teammate about what kind of experience you both want it to be.
such a good video you need more subs
Thank you! I'm just gonna keep making more videos, and hopefully the subs will come.
mediumcore is only for gamers who wants to play a survival game and not "teddy land".
lmao no. mediumcore is no a "survival game". no game where I can easily get back to base via quitting the game is a survival game. no mediumcore is one thing only. and that's misery.
I'm not sure I might try medium core now.Edit: it's going ok I had to cheat and bring my OP guy on to get my map cleared a bit and go into the dungeon so I dont die to the guardian. But it's fun and I'm enjoying it.
How's it going now?
Wow,Good Video,You Changing My Mine To Keep Play On Medium Core😁😁😁👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Ha, thanks! Glad to hear it. As long as you're still enjoying the mode, I encourage you to keep trying at it!
*Mediumcore Terraria = Hard Difficulty Minecraft*
Enjoyed your arguments for playing mediumcore. I'm playing Mediumcore Expert mode (1.3.5.3) with no recall potions and no magic mirror. And a rule that I am only allowed to save and exit only when on the spawn point (center) or a bed with set spawn point. So far I'm still pre-hard mode and Skeletron is difficult. ^^ PS: I'm *so* fú***ìng scared of the Underworld. PPS: And most importantly I need to keep the count of loose/thrown items in the world below 200, otherwise they do will start to despawn. Luckily e.g. 200 dirt blocks count as 1 item when they are exactly on the same place. Check the Terraria wiki.
Whoa! Now THAT sounds like a difficult and immersive Terraria experience. Very cool ruleset.
Ok you have a lot of good points hopefully this should help me with my mediumcore run
P.S: is it ok if I have a soft core character solely for building and gathering and a mediumcore character for everything else?
It is okay to play in any way. Every aspect of how you play is totally up to you! This video is just my argument for one (typically unpopular) way of playing.
Ive always played softcore character in an expert mode thats normal for me but never felt a challenge before so im now playing mediumcore expert and even trying out master mode 1.4 now someday
To be honest, I've never combined mediumcore with expert (let alone master), so that sounds like a wild challenge to me. Haha, enjoy!
@@TheGemsbok thanks!
My only problem with medium-core is the slim chance of permanently losing your items. This doesnt matter for most pre-hardmode weapons, but take something like the nights edge. You require the murmasa, a sword only found in the skeletal dungeon, to craft it. But if you choose to go this route of swords, and lose your items permanently enough times. It will eventually become impossible to craft that sword. The fact that Terraria is a finite world makes me much less comfortable about doing medium-core.
In addition, theres also the insane amount of work needed to get back your items if they are permanently lost or despawn. Especially if your recovery runs fail enough times. For me it would just turn into too much work. I dont want to spend an hour mining all the ores to reclaim my stuff.
It is true that there is always some risk of permanently losing items, but the odds of this happening diminish more and more as you get further into the campaign---as the quality of your sets of back-up equipment for recovery runs get better and better.
@@TheGemsbok While this is true, the simple fact that there are a finite number of times you can permanently lose items before you are unable to make certain items and weapons. Though i guess you can always go to another world to collect more. Regardless, still a great video!
To anybody looking to delete your easy profile to start the second difficulty profile...store your weapons in a chest before you do so because they will be there it you store them once you start the second difficulty profile...I had to find out the hard way because he didn’t mention that
Sorry that happened. To be clear: there's never any need to delete anything! As far as I know, in Terraria you can have as many characters as you want at all the different difficulty settings simultaneously.
I think I might do mediumcore after my first character.
Like I say in the video, I didn't actually try mediumcore until my 3rd character (although it was the first one I brought into hardmode). So I wholeheartedly endorse your plan!
For gods sake, I almost got to Wall of Flesh on Softcore before realizing that Mediumcore is better for me.
I had the exact same experience!
Great video! Thanks :>
I'm glad that you liked it. Thanks for the comment!
I think terraria is so unfair to be played in mediumcore or hardcore.
I mean, I'm playing in master mode and if every time I died i would drop every item and never progress.
In my opinion Terraria was designed to play in classic mode the other two options are just to be "annoying".
I'm a new player and I thought softcore is better but when I played it for like 3days there is no tense I do not get scared of bosses but in mediumcore I'm hella scared to lose my items if the boss kills me😂😂
Haha, exactly!
I have a challenge for mediumcore The Terraria Minecraft challenge.
Rules(1.4 Edit)
- Mediumcore Character
- Weapons are:
* Melee(excluding flails and yoyos)
* Ranged(excluding guns)
* Summoner (excluding whips)
- Use Minecraft Texture Pack
Interesting challenge idea! In all honesty, I haven't played Minecraft since it was in public alpha. But I would wager there are plenty of big fans of both games, who may be keen to try what you're proposing there.
@@TheGemsbok thnx for liking my new Terraria Class Challenge
I always played with mediumcore
First playthrough, I went for mediumcore thinking it was the normal way to play the game (they hadn't renamed softcore "classic" yet). I played for like 10 hours, made a hellevator, and acquired some decent stuff. I had heard you couldn't access the dungeon before beating skeletron, but I did go down anyway, surprised that there wasn't anything to stop me. The guardian killed me and I essentially lost everything. Never played mediumcore again since.
One time my recovery run takes about 5 hours. I was playing latenight and just before finnish i died and that was so nerve wrecking. I just can't go to sleep because I had to get the goods back. Finally i got them back but that was the most horrifying gaming experience in my whole life. It was my first playtrough on this game ever and items that i have was +20h playtime.
True, im a total newbie. I enjoyed the struggle of mediumcore-master mode, until my items got deleted bcs i died and pirate invasion came. Bcs the game has certain amount of "items" the ground can hold. So yeah, im asking myself should i just use my old char and make a new world or not. But really its really traumatic. Bcs those i lost are 60-70% to the end game items. And i spend 126 hours for this chars alone
Oof, master mode. I do wish they had made it so that items dropped into a chest or crate of some kind in mediumcore, instead of just spilling out. That would make it a lot more reasonable to play mediumcore in expert or master.
@@TheGemsbok thats true. Im looking for some tips for this shit before im gonna play a new world, bcs that shit traumatized me ahahah
Monke explanation:
Monke has banana, monke eat banana,
Banana stay. No fun
Reasons not to
1.i don’t want to make 52 molten pickaxes
2.could form bad habits
3.hardmode
4.recovery run works both ways
5.does not fix most problems
6.if you want the game to actually be harder other then early hardmode and new game play expert or self imposed rules
I’m not saying your simps plz no bully
While I respect the premises upon which you base your argument for mediumcore, I find the aspects that the mode adds to be for more monotonous than intense. Perhaps it's just my personal experience playing almost exclusively on expert and now master mode and having zero interest in ever starting up a normal world, but the joy and intensity I derive from playing terraria lies in conquering the world and it's bosses in increasingly difficult battles. The only real difference between classic and mediumcore at that point is the amount of time you waste retrieving your gear whenever you die, because there's never any real risk of true loss.
They're just different ways of adding difficulty. Expert and master increase the immediate difficulty of obstacles in the world, whereas mediumcore and hardcore increase the penalty for failure. Both forms cause the player to need to play and/or prepare better; the former leans more toward skillful combat and optimal equipment, and the latter more toward cautious preparation and decisionmaking. Both are valid options (although I wouldn't necessarily consider them highly compatible with each other, especially for newer players).
I might try this out but I have a question. Do items despawn after a certain amount of time?
Not after a certain amount of time, but they do despawn if many other items/materials drop in the world before reclaiming them (as can happen from large mining operations or fighting a wave-based event), or if you quit out of the game.
Welp, time for a new world
Haha, that's the spirit!
Did you play master mode? If so, would you recommend it?
I have not played master mode, so I can not speak to whether it would mix well with mediumcore, nor whether it is a good game mode in general (although I assume it is a fine way to increase challenge).
If you think Expert is too easy, play it. If you want to get max defence / life regen / damage, play it. If you want to have fun, don’t play it.
I’ve decided not to do this on my third week because I choose to be kind to myself but if I ever get bored, which I likely will, I’ll take your advice. Thanks.
100% agree, this is the true Terraria experience.
Haha awesome; it is a wonderful way to play. Thanks for your comment!
Nahhh, the real terraria experience is expert hardcore with 1hp
You forgot no armor, wooden sword only.
The only reason I generally don't play Mediumcore is simply because I really don't like the normal difficulty. I've played so much on expert and master that it just... Feels wrong.
You give me expert mode, I pick it.
You give me master mode, I pick it.
And since dying on master mode happens a lot, and I generally die when there's either tons of enemies or on a strong boss. And if it's the former, then my items are probably going to be deleted.
That is the only reason I don't play on Mediumcore, but I might give it a try later.
Perfectly understandable! One very nice thing about Terraria is just how many options there are for how to play, which allows players a lot of freedom to find something that suits them. For me, mediumcore and normal strikes the right balance (and I made this video because I think it's an often-overlooked combination); for someone else, though, softcore with expert or master could feel better.
I've played Terraria ages ago, and am picking it up again, I'm a noob, and don't know the progression at all, and I play mostly building now and ignore bosses, but I still play Hardcore to keep myself on my toes the whole time. I definitely see the downside of losing the ability to further my creations after death, but if I really want to I can play the world with a new character...
Definitely a unique playstyle! I can't imagine there are many people that would call themselves primarily builders in Terraria, yet who play on hardcore. You could be a founding member of a very small club, haha.
@@TheGemsbok after that world ended, (although I still have the save, I just died) I started medium core and just now finished my first major recovery run.. that shit was so fucking intense..
Lost my demonite gear out past a jungle at the first meteorite....
Hahaha, EXACTLY! Some viewers think I'm crazy for liking recovery runs in mediumcore, but I honestly think there is very little else in Terraria that can bring the player to that peak of emotion.
@@TheGemsbok I have now lost all my good shit in lava... New world it is!
@@zekebrunt Oof. Such is life in the brutal civilization of Mediumcoria.
I mean like now I kinda have to play mediumcore otherwise ill feel like a wimp.
So yeah today i did something stupid..i thought u need ur character to be mediumcore to be able to play expert..but i was wrong so yeah
Expert plus mediumcore feels like hell
Oof, yeah, as I've mentioned in a few comments here, I don't think the advice in this video is really compatible with expert or master mode.
**cough** recall potions
they make this video a moot point **cough**
I'll do you one better---recall *items* for infinite uses! Now, if you can manage to use recall items or potions swiftly enough to never once let death befall you under any circumstances, then you are a very dextrous and skilled player, and you would likely do fine in hardcore mode!
@@TheGemsbok Recall potions is instant and therefore way superior and recall isn't even remotely difficult to craft
Decided to try it, and I disagree. I hate mediumcore, it just is too anxiety inducing.
Fair enough. Glad you gave it a chance. Happy Terraria-ing!
sorry I'd rather not I am sorry just wanna make sure I don't die in lava so i can't pick it up
This is very good
Although i will not try it beacuse i still feel scared of dying on classic/softcore lol
Ha, perfectly understandable. Thanks for the positive comment, at any rate.
The reason I dont do this is I died on mobile in the jungle and my phone ran out of charge so I lost everything
Oof, mobile problems. Understandable. Admittedly, I've never played the game on any platform other than desktop PC.
For refrence all of this is with me playing on master mode.
recovery runs are a mixed bag. they're fun and intresting for the first few times. but after that they're just annoying. their is no head cannon to me getting my drops from a faild boss for the 100th time. especially if it's something like the wall of flesh. leading to the pause, save & quit method. if you think/know you're about to die you just hit escape go to settings and hit "save and quit". then load back in and BOOM you're back at base safe and sound. the method is so good that theirs no reason not to use it even on classic/softcore. why suicide and lose money when you can just go back for free?
this is all coming from someone who's only ever played mediumcore up until a few days ago btw. got something like 200+ hours on mediumcore so i'm no stranger to it. Just at a certain point it's dumb. A lot of the posatives you listed just go away and more negatives start to pile up. Losing my gear due to a game crash or power outage is not satisfying, enjoyable, or challenging. it's just misery. which i don't think is your point.
....though thinking about it it might be mine. actually that might be the only reason to play mediumcore at this point.
Is it just me who use recall potion instead of suicide in softcore?
Makes sense if you don't want to lose held money.
me who started and immidietly did mediumcore:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sounds great! i'll be playing mediumcore with calamity revengeance mode on, i'm sure it'll be fun!
Ha, I provide no guarantees about the experience of combining the advice in this video with various other difficulty options and mods.
Does softcore effect the drops from bosses? Because I beat Skeltron n it dropped only gold
Expert and Master mode affect boss drops, but as far as I know character difficulty has no such effect.
not gonna lie, you got a point... in pre hardmode or on normal, in expert and even more so master hardmode is unfair for mediumcore players, if someone enjoyed dying in 2 hits even in the best armour then well... good for them but there is a reson why all the long term terraria players that played the game multiple times to the end play on classic, its less anoying, the bosses are a challange enough and if someone thinks they're not... calamity... and no going through the map 5 times for the stuff you dropped in some cave
I think if I'm honest, I just bought a laptop so I could Terraria in bed. Looking to do this. What size map? First run kind of...
I'd recommend a 'small' map for a first-time mediumcore playthrough. I think you'll find it plenty large, and recovery runs in bigger worlds can get a bit ridiculous at times.
@@TheGemsbok it's going to be my first time running the game. I've done about 10 hours across a couple of maps to see what it's like.
I want the challenge of mediumcore as I started on that. Will take you up on the small map suggestion I think.
I think you're in for a very fun time! I encourage you to embrace the roleplaying aspect of the game as much possible---really pays psychological dividends when facing mediumcore's harsh penalty for death.
I personally think that mediumcore and hardcore are both stupid; yes, stupid! Because, on mediumcore/hardcore, the game becomes almost unbeatable. I mean, armor from ores is nearly impossible to obtain. Softcore is the best. NOTHING can change my mind. And if you think otherwise, you are legitimate stupid. Because that would also make you almost cry when you died, even on mediumcore, because of your hard-earned zenith, cell phone, and ankh shield all being gone, and also the fact that you dropped them in an area that you forgot how to reach afterwards. On softcore, you still care and avoid death the best you can, there is nothing different about that. And extra punishment is a no-no. So there, solid proof that softcore is the BEST difficulty.
Dying in hell in this mode over a lava lake has to be one of the most terrible feelings, along with giving up all hope of getting your items back and then saving and quitting
AVOID THE LAVA PIT - GREAT POINT - VERY MUCH UPSETTING OUTCOME IN MEDCOR
I think it's fair to say you've understood everything, Mr. RICKARD.
Ok I totally agree
Now *that's* a ringing endorsement!