Warning, if showing to students, there's a swear word in this talk when the presenter is speaking about about Taleb's book: Skin in the Game around the 33:23 mark.
Based on what i got out of this video, Indigenous Mathematics is only a conduit for the Indigenous culture and the Indigenous political narrative here in Canada. Though the speaker claims Indigenous Mathematics involves mathematics, his examples are limited to the application of mathematics through an ad hoc combination of lenses. Those lenses mirror those same lenses used in the Anti-Racism Math being taught in some American schools. All I got away from this video was political ideology. I'm not surprised the speaker has a Ph.D in Pure Mathematics. Those of us that hold degrees in Engineering will know what the speaker says what math lacks, engineering math actually does.
I'm all for greater cultural awareness and increased political power for indigenous groups, but like you I'm not sure I can see the mathematical argument here. The only solid points I can get from this talk are about how different groups might view things in a different context (looking at something on the floor vs on a blackboard) and the example about his dad saying real fish won't be regular sizes like in the math problem. Is the point that other cultures are more practical? Because that objection that his dad made sounds exactly like the sorts of objections I've heard my own white, western father make to word games and riddles. It's the exact attitude of so many engineers in my rich, western country that it is a cliche. Every culture has more practical people than pure mathematicians. It's a common theme running through education for decades that what ought to be taught in schools ought to be more practical, more immediately relevant to students. But it's the price we pay for having an overdeveloped industrial society. Without physicists and chemists and engineers and everyone else who has to pass calculus exams to earn their degrees, we don't have the society we have. Now I personally would not mind going back to a pre-industrial form of civilization but you'll have a hard time convincing everyone else, and in the meantime if you want to get anywhere in science or mathematics, the universities all say I have to learn calculus first and work out the practical stuff on the job.
@@Anon-dp2bd Practical skills. That's a big talking point for colleges. I keep on talking to their design teams about that. I use practical examples in the courses I teach.
So the title is Indigenous mathamatics. Immediately he professes he can't answer what is indigenous or what is mathematics. Really? Then he says creation belongs to us. Who is us. Humans in general? Or, creation belongs to the indigenous people? I knew what indigenous is and what mathamatics is before I viewed this video but still don't know what indigenous mathamatics is. Actually, it's simply 'mathamatics', no need for a prefix.
The point of this talk is decolonization of how we view and learn about mathematics. There is certainly a whole discussion on whether adding such a "prefix" is productive or not. I suggest to learn more about epistemology to gain a better understanding of the nuance of this topic.
Bit of a logic fail here. Can't define A, can't define B but I can define A intersection B. I think his surname says it all.
Warning, if showing to students, there's a swear word in this talk when the presenter is speaking about about Taleb's book: Skin in the Game around the 33:23 mark.
Based on what i got out of this video, Indigenous Mathematics is only a conduit for the Indigenous culture and the Indigenous political narrative here in Canada. Though the speaker claims Indigenous Mathematics involves mathematics, his examples are limited to the application of mathematics through an ad hoc combination of lenses. Those lenses mirror those same lenses used in the Anti-Racism Math being taught in some American schools. All I got away from this video was political ideology. I'm not surprised the speaker has a Ph.D in Pure Mathematics. Those of us that hold degrees in Engineering will know what the speaker says what math lacks, engineering math actually does.
I'm all for greater cultural awareness and increased political power for indigenous groups, but like you I'm not sure I can see the mathematical argument here. The only solid points I can get from this talk are about how different groups might view things in a different context (looking at something on the floor vs on a blackboard) and the example about his dad saying real fish won't be regular sizes like in the math problem.
Is the point that other cultures are more practical? Because that objection that his dad made sounds exactly like the sorts of objections I've heard my own white, western father make to word games and riddles. It's the exact attitude of so many engineers in my rich, western country that it is a cliche. Every culture has more practical people than pure mathematicians.
It's a common theme running through education for decades that what ought to be taught in schools ought to be more practical, more immediately relevant to students. But it's the price we pay for having an overdeveloped industrial society. Without physicists and chemists and engineers and everyone else who has to pass calculus exams to earn their degrees, we don't have the society we have. Now I personally would not mind going back to a pre-industrial form of civilization but you'll have a hard time convincing everyone else, and in the meantime if you want to get anywhere in science or mathematics, the universities all say I have to learn calculus first and work out the practical stuff on the job.
@@Anon-dp2bd Practical skills. That's a big talking point for colleges. I keep on talking to their design teams about that. I use practical examples in the courses I teach.
Jibberish!
So the title is Indigenous mathamatics. Immediately he professes he can't answer what is indigenous or what is mathematics. Really? Then he says creation belongs to us. Who is us. Humans in general? Or, creation belongs to the indigenous people? I knew what indigenous is and what mathamatics is before I viewed this video but still don't know what indigenous mathamatics is. Actually, it's simply 'mathamatics', no need for a prefix.
The point of this talk is decolonization of how we view and learn about mathematics. There is certainly a whole discussion on whether adding such a "prefix" is productive or not. I suggest to learn more about epistemology to gain a better understanding of the nuance of this topic.