Knife Expert Breaks Down Donnie Yen's Kill Zone Fight Scene | Scenic Fights

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  • Pekiti Tirsia Kali Instructor Logan Lo breaks down the knife fighting action scene between Donnie Yen and Wu Jing in the Hong Kong martial arts film, SPL: Sha Po Lang also known as Kill Zone (2005) in this episode of Fight Scene Breakdown.
    About Fight Scene Breakdown:
    Scenic Fights’ Fight Scene Breakdown is the best martial arts fight scene breakdown that not only gives you expert analysis on the action scene, but also visually demonstrates the martial arts fight choreography.
    Currently, season 1 features Pekiti Tirsia Kali Instructor Logan Lo and black belt Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ) Evolution Muay Thai head coach trainer, Chad Vázquez.
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    About the Movie:
    SPL: Sha Pa Long Killzone (2005) is a martial arts action Hong Kong movie films starring Donnie Yen (甄子丹) , Wu Jing and Sammo Hung.
    In this epic martial arts action fight scene from SPL, Donnie Yen uses a metallic baton against Wu Jing and his sharp knife. In the movie, the character of Wu Jing is part of the gang led by legendary martial artist, Sammo Hung.
    This stick versus knife combat scene is perfect for a pekiti tirsia kali fighter to analyze and that's why Scenic Fights had to breakdown this action fight scene choreography that mixes the flashiness of Hong Kong martial arts and Filipino Martial Arts (FMA).
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  • @jdk5281
    @jdk5281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +660

    You guys deserve more views for these breakdowns. Thanks for the content guys!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thanks JDK 52! Feel free to share these with your friends. We really enjoy making these fight scene breakdowns!

    • @jonr-p2079
      @jonr-p2079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This channel is awesome !

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jon R-P I'm super happy to hear that you enjoy the channel! We have other Donnie Yen Breakdowns for you to enjoy including Special ID (2014): th-cam.com/video/62pu-aU_T6U/w-d-xo.html and Flash Point (2008): th-cam.com/video/jvDZoMYH-Uk/w-d-xo.html
      Also, hit that notification bell, subscribe and ask your friends to do so it will really mean a lot!
      And lastly, let us know if there are any other fight scenes you'd like us to breakdown next!

  • @jasonthyaw
    @jasonthyaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1133

    " i would run" is by far the most honest advice that can be given and received... that's what i say to my guys too.

    • @stevenparker2301
      @stevenparker2301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Yeah definitely solid self defense advise
      Running isn’t cowardly And being injured by an assailant isn’t honorable or glorious

    • @MrHalberdanger
      @MrHalberdanger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It’s advice most peoples pride and self aggrandizement could never imagine. Imagine if every life or death contest was fair, straightforward, and not random or inexplicable.

    • @gomezraphaelroilanb.8142
      @gomezraphaelroilanb.8142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrHalberdanger Imagine having a grudge on someone and inviting him to life and death duel and then you lose

    • @RogDeller
      @RogDeller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      that is exactly what my martial arts teacher told us years ago. never try to fight unarmed against a knive. there is just way too much risk of getting terribly injured. the disarm technics won't work in 99% or more of the situations.

    • @aceambling7685
      @aceambling7685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@RogDeller fist

  • @extrams0
    @extrams0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +584

    In a knife fight, the loser dies on the streets. The winner dies in the ambulance.

    • @AncientSoul811
      @AncientSoul811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      extrams0 soo true

    • @sozibrahman8504
      @sozibrahman8504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The best comment ever.....🤣🤣😏

    • @AncientSoul811
      @AncientSoul811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sozib Rahman V !!!!

    • @JustMeHere291
      @JustMeHere291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I live in Alaska and two guys in a village here started fighting each other with a knife. Both guys were found dead in the street from knife wounds. I guess sometimes the winner doesn’t even last for an ambulance.

    • @hunggamerofficial3252
      @hunggamerofficial3252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@JustMeHere291
      I live in Vietnam and what you said just sums up the same thing in my country.
      Real street fights are so horrible, nobody gives a crap about your "Style" at all.

  • @enby_kensei
    @enby_kensei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Fun fact for those who don't know: a large majority of this fight scene wasn't choreographed. Donnie Yen and Wu Jing grew up training together, so they spar a LOT. The sequences in the fight that consist of the two bashing each other's weapons frantically and wildly are mostly the two actors just going at it with prop weapons. Supposedly, Donnie broke several batons over Wu Jing's arms throughout production.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      The improvisation of this fight scene is what makes Donnie Yen and Wu Jing martial arts action legends.

    • @quannguyenle9775
      @quannguyenle9775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Another fun fact: in this scene some strike hurt wu jing for real, make him end up in hospital after set, and the frustration in last part of fight scene is real (kind of)

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      insane.

    • @ronaldlee7566
      @ronaldlee7566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They goes freestyle during that brutal knife vs stick fight scene.

    • @Rocky-oq9cy
      @Rocky-oq9cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quannguyenle9775 That fact doesn't sound very fun for Wu Jing

  • @RLAMultimedia
    @RLAMultimedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    Not even going to lie, the technical stuff from this fight was fantastic, but what really grabs me is the lighting choices for the scenes. It's like watching a comic book.

  • @My_name_is_A2
    @My_name_is_A2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    I think wu jin's fighting style makes sense in this movie, he's a hired killer who enjoys cutting people not a pragmatic knife expert., I imagine he ignored any teachings a practical knife user would share in favor of a style to suit his enjoyment. in a previous scene he has another officer defeated but uses several non lethal cuts instead of just finishing the guy.

    • @GreenGlo1991
      @GreenGlo1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Exactly. It’s not that he’s a good knife fighter. He enjoys wielding a knife. Donnie Yen’s character knows how to use a baton not because he enjoys it but because it’s useful to him.

    • @jewellui
      @jewellui 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Wu Jin was being outmatched would it make sense to play around? It was no game in the end he was fighting for his life.

    • @LokiAndLoiDontGiveADamn
      @LokiAndLoiDontGiveADamn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yep, his character was cocky af, so it totally make sense that he just doesn’t fight in the most logic and efficient way.

    • @LokiAndLoiDontGiveADamn
      @LokiAndLoiDontGiveADamn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      J L I think before the end he’s hurting and got matched out by so much for the first time ever, that he kind of stopped thinking about the techniques.

    • @muzikahub7068
      @muzikahub7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

  • @yutro213
    @yutro213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    "If I see that back, I own that back" - Famous wise words.

    • @skarzms
      @skarzms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its like prison I see that back that means he is my bitch

  • @brunocosta4172
    @brunocosta4172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    "Donnie Yen does not have a weapon"
    Donnie Yen IS the weapon

  • @jasonlorphotofilms
    @jasonlorphotofilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I like the breakdown of the accuracy of the fight movements. Logan is right about what each should've done, but we have to remember that when you meet a fighter for the first time, you don't know what they are capable of or how skillful they are of their martial arts. So once you go into a fight it all comes down to skills. Donnie was reading Wu Jing's fighting style and realizes his advantages with his baton against Wu Jing's knife. Wu Jing's character seems to be a very cocky guy with no strategies which is probably why he kept charging forward when he should be flanking, as Logan pointed out. When Donnie finally starts charging he charges with a strategy of countering his knife strikes to eventually taking him out with success. Great breakdown of the scene and also thankyou for sharing your knowledge as well.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you Jason! I really like this take on the scene.

    • @alsimmons4504
      @alsimmons4504 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or it could be that Wu Jing's character, Jack, *did* have some strategies, but they just happen to be some of the worst/most incorrect strategies (the majority of 'em at least) which could also be attributed to the nature of Wu Jing's character, Jack, most notably his level of sheer arrogance and psychotic tendencies as a brutally sadistic assassin so that could be another explanation for why Jack ultimately failed against Detective Ma Kwun (Wu Jing's and Donnie Yen's characters respectively).

  • @johnnynguyen606
    @johnnynguyen606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I hope this guy becomes a fight choreographer if he isn't already one.

  • @AnonW
    @AnonW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The best advice when getting urself into a fight: Run. So Usain Bolt is essentially the invincible coz ain't noone catching him.

    • @logan607
      @logan607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Valid.

    • @9tailjeza
      @9tailjeza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rule #1 cardio

  • @Brian-hg3gt
    @Brian-hg3gt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    “I would run” says the guy who trains knife defenses for fun and professionally😂 just gives u an idea of ur odds of not being cut

    • @arforafro5523
      @arforafro5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      You know what they say; old soldiers are hard to kill, no mention of them having a high body count or anything like that lol

    • @themocaw
      @themocaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The meme is that in a knife fight, the winner ends up in the hospital.
      The loser is in the morgue.

    • @Importman2009
      @Importman2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Someone threatened me with an ax once. And I literally just laughed it off and the guy just put the weapon away. It would have been a totally different story if he had pulled out a knife. Because with a knife you know you will be cut the question is just how bad and how many times. Not something I ever want to mess with.

    • @donoberloh
      @donoberloh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      IMHO. You will not get onto a knife fighting scenario with a knife wielding assailant who you do battle with using your knife, as in the movies. They will stab you without any frontal attack nor in broad daylight, or you will gut them before they know they are being attacked. No trained personnel is going to lunge with a single thrust or “psycho” shower scene downward plunge. Just from my limited experience. Knife scars? 12, so far (four in Olongapo and 2 in Manila in early 70,s) hopefully no
      more at my age.

  • @ticy0001
    @ticy0001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    1:22 - he changes his grip so fast you can't even see it, holy shit xD

  • @stigtuneback1966
    @stigtuneback1966 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    two mighty good fighters and actors in martial arts .

  • @yes8574
    @yes8574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You guys aren't getting the credit you deserve, these videos are 10x more descriptive than some of the other channels that just say what the characters are doing. Great work!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you like them! We are huge fans of martial arts and really enjoy these breakdowns. Make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell so we can create content faster for you. Is there any other breakdown you'd like to see us do next?
      I also recommend our other breakdowns which include:
      John Wick: th-cam.com/video/xHrqHulxK7c/w-d-xo.html
      More Donnie Yen: th-cam.com/video/62pu-aU_T6U/w-d-xo.html
      Kengan Ashura: th-cam.com/video/8oy0b__krQk/w-d-xo.html

  • @1Asian_Badass
    @1Asian_Badass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Everyone always says to run but they seem to never take into account that most people are actually pretty slow when it comes to running.😆

    • @kosbebot6360
      @kosbebot6360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it's assumed that if you're training in martial arts, running will be part of your training routine. :D

  • @Leprutz
    @Leprutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Best advice ever that isn't taught by many: Run, always run when you can.

    • @bencath_1529
      @bencath_1529 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      then you are a coward and not a man

    • @susiekidwell2071
      @susiekidwell2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who cares rather b a living breathing man 😂 I think he's rite were taught to fight too much as men what if ur boutta be attacked by raccoons rite u running or u fighting them thanks I'ma run don't Kno bout u

    • @tomkrueger6556
      @tomkrueger6556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you are out numbred by 2 or 3 bad guys with knife or drunk agressive big guy guy with knife you have to run otherwise you will become a ghost

    • @NeostormXLMAX
      @NeostormXLMAX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bryan Raymundo if you don’t run you wont be a man but a corpse

    • @Leprutz
      @Leprutz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guys... Nevermind Bryan Raymundo has actually absolutley no clue what running means. Running is also seen as an oposing threat to an attacker, most attackers are just to fucking lazy to run after you. They usually pic on People who don't oppose to them.
      Plus I believe the one who needs a weapon to fight is more of a pussy then the guy who runs. But I don't a shit what people think. I know what I am doing right.

  • @kylelei93
    @kylelei93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love watching vids like these with people who might be able to either catch a flaw or the accuracy. Gives the movie realistic value. I've seen other vids for army vets that have used weapons that either a video game or movie is trying to portray & they are able to explain the accuracy about each detail in movement, use, skills behind it, etc... great vid for the martial arts world !

  • @jahidulislammamun5430
    @jahidulislammamun5430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I liked the fact that how you guys revealed the true forms, mistakes and greatness of some fighting scenes from various different movies which we, the audience once thought were the most perfectly choreographed ones and 10/10. Also, as a dedicated fan of fighting forms, I saw other experts' breakdown-videos where they praised on these same video clips. I respect their knowledges and their distinctive way of commenting on these scenes yet none of them pointed out so many tiny details as you guys did. You guys aren't just breaking down scenes. You guys are educating people. You guys are educating people with the knowledge that you earned from a lot of years from practicing the martial arts for free. Hats off to guys. You are SENSEI. Take love.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for this comment! We work really hard on these breakdowns so it's always so nice to be recognized by comments like yours. Make sure to subscribe and let us know which fight scene you'd like to see us breakdown next!

    • @jahidulislammamun5430
      @jahidulislammamun5430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScenicFights Bangkok Knockout , Jungle Fight scene from The Rundown, Hallway fight scene from Raid 1, Final Fight scene from The Night comes for us, the oner scene from Tony Ja's Tom Yum Goong

  • @flameracer93
    @flameracer93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Fun fact: Donnie Yen and Jin Woo improvised this fight on the fly. They were both so familiar with each others fighting styles that they were able to attack and counter each others strikes with minimal choreography, which also gives it its frenetic pace

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's such a great and entertaining fight scene!

    • @diro9655
      @diro9655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      There is an actual edited "behind the scenes" where they practically show you choreographing this fight.

    • @aurorastarfury
      @aurorastarfury 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@diro9655 Most of the fight was choreographed, but there's a short section which is un-rehearsed and is essentially the two of them free-sparring on film. It's easy to spot because of the hesitancy to enter measure by both of them.

    • @logan607
      @logan607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fascinating. Thanks, fellas!

    • @XTsamurai
      @XTsamurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knowing that is frightening - and amazing!
      In real fights with so much adrenaline pumping, you’re just reacting. Amazing to know this

  • @IdlePeasant
    @IdlePeasant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Of course running is the best option if possible, but if you and the other person are already within a few yards of each other, then running might not be the best option anymore because your opponent could potentially be faster than you, while at the same time, you'd be completely exposing your back to them. In the words of Logan Lo, "If I see your back, I own you."
    In this case, if you're already within a few yards of your opponent and they draw a knife on you, running is only going to give them an open target where they can dash after you and start stabbing you in the back. The best defense against a knife attacker is to have an answer of your own, ideally with another weapon like a knife, or in Donnie's case, a baton.
    Almost everyone should know that fights where both parties are armed with knives will end in disaster for both sides. So, if the knife attacker sees that you have a blade of your own, it'll make him think twice about whether or not it's worth the risk to rush in against someone who can cut him up just as badly.

  • @hori83
    @hori83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He explained all the techniques and moves and at the end just... I would run😁

  • @kevinsullivan3505
    @kevinsullivan3505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These videos are so great to watch! I love how you guys go through each breakdown and slow it down!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoy our breakdown Kevin! Make sure to subscribe and hit that notification bell. Also, bring a friend too and have them subscribe. It means a lot. Let us know if there are any other fight scenes you want us to breakdown next!

  • @nagaremono6425
    @nagaremono6425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was great guys, please keep making more breakdowns. I really enjoy watching them

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really appreciate it Jeremy! We are a small group of people so we are doing our best to put these out as fast as possible. Hopefully these get enough hits and we can do more martial arts action fight scene breakdowns! Feel free to share our videos and ask your friends to watch and subscribe.

  • @darealnukem7775
    @darealnukem7775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:04 “that means I own him” and the face drop at 4:07 reaction to that omg 😂😂😂😂

  • @finlayeddie7934
    @finlayeddie7934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By far my favorite channel to watch right now love the content

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated! Let us know which fight scene you'd like to see us breakdown next and we'll make it happen.

  • @thanglongnguyenvu3815
    @thanglongnguyenvu3815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love these weapon fights break down. I'm a fan of fights using weapons.

  • @ohmatokita347
    @ohmatokita347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Its amazing how the sound quality and Chad´s hair had change until now hahaha

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We now make sure both Chad and Logan are looking fresh before their shoots lol.

  • @albertng8979
    @albertng8979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "If you do find yourself in a weapons fight, I'd run" . Great advice! I'd too! lol

  • @KevinWong_BRZ
    @KevinWong_BRZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stumbled across this channel by accident and have been binge watching your content. Love the rapport Logan and Chad have in the back and forth.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much! We really appreciate the support. Feel free to check out Logan and Chad in our Captain America Breakdown: th-cam.com/video/-Ci6ttRVSRU/w-d-xo.html They are always funny.

    • @KevinWong_BRZ
      @KevinWong_BRZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScenicFights that was my first video watched! LOVED IT.

  • @robertnguyen9493
    @robertnguyen9493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video, I recently discovered this channel and subscribed. I heard that this fight scene was filmed in one night and most of it was improvised by Donnie Yen and Will Jin.
    Great content, keep it coming!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for subscribing! Also share your channel with your friends. And you are correct, Donnie Yen and Wu Jing did improvise this awesome scene.

  • @ishaaqmartin3564
    @ishaaqmartin3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Logan: Run.
    Me: Ah yes, the 2 move technique for ending any fight.

  • @manasduttafoodpartner8913
    @manasduttafoodpartner8913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One most important thing I understood by watching your videos is that if you can...*RUN* 🤣 best defense

  • @geddon436
    @geddon436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    When are you guys going to review "raid" and "raid 2"? espeically the kitchen fight at the end

  • @bakerfresh
    @bakerfresh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    On extras to Killzone, Donnie and Wu talk of how Donnie purposefully would rap the top of Wu Jing's hand to make him come more wildly and angry...sort of.

    • @RLAMultimedia
      @RLAMultimedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This has got to be some kind of film set safety violation, lol

    • @TheTommy9898
      @TheTommy9898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RLAMultimedia it’s Hong Kong style lol. Even just here in Asia. They still use those fucking puzzle mats as padding lol. It looks cool tho

  • @mark347347
    @mark347347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "I'd run" yeah. This guy knows what's up hahaha

  • @AngelFlores_133
    @AngelFlores_133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow I would have loved to train with you guys when I lived in NY. I feel like what you guys teach is perfect for Urban environments such as NYC. Thank you for the videos many blessings to you all 🙏

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re ever in NYC, come visit us at Paxibellum Martial Arts! We would love to have you for a free class. Just say you found us through Scenic Fights!

  • @MrHeat48
    @MrHeat48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Yes! Just run. Don't mess with death. It's not fucking worth it.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Run as fast as you can

    • @logan607
      @logan607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't even eat expired food.

  • @_Wai_Wai_
    @_Wai_Wai_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Donnie Yen vs Wu Jing, Literally the best fight scene ever on camera.

    • @alsimmons4504
      @alsimmons4504 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, *one* of the best fight scenes ever filmed on camera at least.

  • @RaytheMagician
    @RaytheMagician ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Logan and Chad, great breakdown. Most entertaining and educational! Love the detail with which you both illustrate your points. As a fan of the movie "KIllzone", I wanted to respectfully suggest that perhaps the somewhat questionable decisions made by Wu Jing's character is a reflection of how the character was written. For me, the clues come earlier in the film when Wu Jing murders the other members of Donnie Yen's Hong Kong police squad. All of them with a knife. It's always with surprise and speed.
    In the case of one cop whom Wu Jing ambushed in a parking garage, he threw (and EMBEDDED!) his knife in the cop's forearm, softened him up with kung-fu techniques, then retrieved his knife, then OVERWHELMED the cop by slashing him with such speed, the victim could barely react. At which point, Donnie Yen tried to take several shots at Wu Jing, but missed every time. Subsequently, Wu Jing, slashes the wounded cop's throat to finish the job, then vanishes. Perhaps at that point, Wu Jing thought Donnie Yen was just another Hong Kong cop relying on his gun to fight...and proving himself impotent as a result. He probably thought that Donnie Yen, like his colleagues wouldn't last in a CQC fight.
    And then to his fatal dismay, Wu Jing found out how wrong he was in the alley.
    Clearly, he went into that fight thinking that Donnie Yen would be a pushover like his fellow officers. Only he discovered the hard way that Yen not only could keep up with him and deflect his slashes (for the most part), but Yen could also counter with a weapon that had a longer reach. The longer the fight went on, the more Wu Jing was losing...and he knew it. Watch his face during the fight...his expressions go from arrogance...to surprise...to frustration...to desperation...and finally, humiliation, when Donnie Yen delivered the final blow...by killing Wu Jing with his own weapon.
    Now, this is not to invalidate in any way your evaluation of Wu Jing's character's approach to fighting Donnie Yen's character. Just providing some speculation from a story standpoint why he didn't make the best decision.
    CHEERS!

  • @steven2761
    @steven2761 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great fight scene explanation video!!! Even as a noob like me can understand whats the theory and reason behind it!! Really really great work!!

  • @jl-co6ko
    @jl-co6ko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After all the advice and demo you tell us to run !!! Run I can do !! Luv to video 🙏

  • @thematic3893
    @thematic3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:47 Wu Jings character did the drop because he’s right handed. Personally I think it was a smart move to get his weapon back to his dominate striking hand, very dangerous, but necessary given the circumstances.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see you argument. High risk. High reward.

  • @inquisitvem6723
    @inquisitvem6723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel and I think you have the best explanations

  • @kongox
    @kongox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol “I would run if I could”. That’s what I was thinking the time you were breaking down the fight scene. Good stuff.

  • @crapsound
    @crapsound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I thought the fight was cool then you guys break it down and give more input to make it cooler.

  • @mrpotato8297
    @mrpotato8297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just accidentally chance upon this video.. best accident that ever happen to me 😂👍 subscribed and liked..

  • @aikidopurwokerto
    @aikidopurwokerto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice, i love it.

  • @jimmagwojo2718
    @jimmagwojo2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that last statement it was so matter of fact If I ever do find myself in a weapons fight I would run .... that's legit

  • @farzinlegendary390
    @farzinlegendary390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally, after 15 years an expert breaks down this famous fight scene👍👍👍

  • @Korovax
    @Korovax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10/10 break down guys big thumbs up. I still think it's the best weapon fight scene ever made cuz everything is mesmeriring : the great music, that standoff with Wu-jin sadistic smile, the building of tension, the real experience of both fighters, the savagery, the choice of color who gives an unreal sensation and the lack of any modern CGI, doppelganger, cut every frame, wire crap. Only two masters and 2 cameras in a backalley.
    A close second would be the famous old boy corridor fight ;)
    I do think that the Wu-jin character was litteraly overwelmed with pain, he already received a nasty gunshot wound on his left arm and Donnie smartly exploit this by bashing this weak point.
    After sustaining so much punishment I don't think you can still think calmy so that explain why he use this kinda obvious looping attack.
    Adrenaline kicks in and you do the most instinctive move which is charging that way.
    Yet I'll follow your last advice : I'll never try to block or disarm a fury who's running at me screaming with bloodshot eyes cuz if you fail that microsecond to block the attack you're dead meat.
    I also wanted to ask : what do you think about taking off one's jacket and use it as a shield to defend against a knife attack ?

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the awesome comment! Make sure to subscribe. I agree this fight scene is fantastic, not only from a choreography perspective, but also its production. As for your last question, if you have time to take off your jacket, then you might have enough time to just avoid the fight all together and run. However, if you have no choice, then protecting your arm is a good idea. We also did a Special ID breakdown with Donnie Yen that I hope you enjoy too: th-cam.com/video/62pu-aU_T6U/w-d-xo.html

    • @Korovax
      @Korovax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScenicFights Hey ! Thanks a lot for replying and for your insight of course I'll follow and check your content ;)

  • @romanobifolchi
    @romanobifolchi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see most ip man movies broken down. As I am a big fan of these movies. I am new to your channel and I am not sure if you have covered them as of yet. Thank you

  • @TsiSiFa
    @TsiSiFa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Big shout out for the effort and attention in the closed captions!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Jeremy! We do our best to make our videos as accessible as possible!

  • @stkylewong7218
    @stkylewong7218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This fight scene is reported mostly real action and not choreographed.
    The director had let both the actors do their thing with minimal direction, and it took only 1 take, therefore what we see are mostly real exchanges of two fighters.
    I doubt in actual fight we can be so conscious on how to throw proper techniques when the pace was as fast as the movie shows.
    Nevertheless, it's a great breakdown

  • @viper1320
    @viper1320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you breakdown Kill Zone 2, where Wu Jing uses the police baton against the guy with the many knives? I want to hear your opinion. I really like your show, keep up the great work 🙏🏾🇨🇦

  • @themocaw
    @themocaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Logan gets so much respect for me for saying that he, an expert at knife martial arts, would run like hell if anyone ever came at him with a knife.

  • @PooMonkeyMan
    @PooMonkeyMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the third video I’m watching of you guys’ breakdowns and they’re pretty amazing. However, I guess from the point of the coordinator, they’re taking into consideration the character at this point in the fight. Donnie Yen’s character struck Wu Jing’s character twice in the head, and at this point Wu’s character is enraged, out for blood, and is not in the proper mindset, hence a fatal move in the end with the overhead. But I’m loving these breakdowns.

    • @alsimmons4504
      @alsimmons4504 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well technically, Ma Kwun (Donnie's character) only struck Jack (Wu Jing's character) once in the head while the other times, he struck him in the mouth, the back (twice), struck him in the ribs and even the armpits as well so actually all of those things could be what led to Jack becoming more enraged, out for blood and not being in the proper mindset which ultimately led up to him being fatally killed in the end.

  • @axh6877
    @axh6877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @GreenGlo1991
    @GreenGlo1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “I would run”. Yes. That. I would never have shown up.

  • @santoshrana1948
    @santoshrana1948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really impressed with the break down, would be great if you could review knife scene of south korean movie the man from nowhere.

  • @numismaticstacker
    @numismaticstacker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I studied with Rick Faye from Minnesota Kali group. He is a truly amazing martial artist. We studied all the moves you are displaying. I love weapons training with sticks and knives. I do love the ice pick method with knives.
    Yes Donnie yen is a bad ass

  • @twisted_ace5841
    @twisted_ace5841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need more of these!

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Subscribe and set your notification bell for our channel! We are releasing more and more breakdowns.

  • @xuzuran21
    @xuzuran21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video,, i hope you can also breakdown the knife fight in man from nowhere..

  • @MrMGR1986
    @MrMGR1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best action sequences ever in cinema

  • @mamikgibar
    @mamikgibar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Logan, so fun to see you doing these breakdowns! We trained with Agapito about 20 years ago, I believe when you first started. Great stuff you’re putting out there!

    • @logan607
      @logan607 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoa! Thanks!

  • @ventactics
    @ventactics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant

  • @ishigamiyupinoyanimelover9353
    @ishigamiyupinoyanimelover9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does this channel is so Underrated

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We appreciate the support. All we ask is to subscribe and have your friends subscribe and watch our martial arts content too!

  • @afandryan537
    @afandryan537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You just got a new subscriber

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the family. We really appreciate the support!

  • @emilmaycare1318
    @emilmaycare1318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great!

  • @joedragon8245
    @joedragon8245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see you take a look at the fight between captain america and winter soldier knife fight

  • @nguyenduonglong94
    @nguyenduonglong94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for honest advice. Parkour is the best kungfu to learn to save one's life in stricky situations. Being able to climb to the roof or tree in 1 vs 10 fight is much safer than trying to fight them with wingchun or other kungfu styles.

  • @jessechen724
    @jessechen724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos are so cool. Also, the main goal in a knife fight or weapons fight of any kind is to LIVE. As cowardly as it sounds, running away is always the best/number 1 option.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      These fight scenes are pure entertainment. Always run away from a knife fight if you have the chance. No matter how skilled you are, you risk getting cut.

    • @circumcizednun1814
      @circumcizednun1814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much, even a few punches probably wouldn't be equivalent to a single stab wound

  • @BenokanobiSama
    @BenokanobiSama 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Logan, awesome breakdown of the movie..
    Really happy to see a PTK's practitioner giving dream down on action Movies.
    I'm Ben, my mate and I had the honour of attending one of tohon Rommel's mid 2000's work shop in Malaysia.
    I maintain on the basic drills when my mate Uwei Chong, went on learning under Tuhon Tim Waid.
    now an instructor I believed when he attended Uni in NYC.
    I'd like to share some stories reported regarding this particular fight scene. I'm not sure if you are aware about this fight scene is completely unchoreograph unlike most other H.k. action Movies.
    Donnie Yen was the fight choreographer on this scene and he decided to go full on free styling.
    Resulting Wu Jing ribs and forearm broken... You were spot on!
    It was reported that Wu Jing was asked to fight holding the icepack form with big movement by Donnie Yen. They had some problems and went viral,
    Their way of marketing during film promotion I guess..
    ..
    Apparently, like Jet Li, they were also students of the 北京
    市什刹海体育运动学校武术队Beijing Shichahai Sports School.
    These guys had train their whole life in Martial Art,
    Makes performing somee crazy movement seems like breathing naturally
    But it is after all,
    different from Combative training..
    Where ones mind is set to react while ready to strake becomes the first nature.
    Which those drills sometimes may not look as good on screens like those choreographed or preformed by these guys. .
    Although Donnie Yen seem to has way more experience comparing to EU Jing,
    in various different disciplines of martial arts with full contact combative experiences. Does made Wu Jing seems coming in short..
    Unlike stunts in movie, PTK's Drill were pass down from a long line of actual experience accumulated on life and death situations from Grand tuhon Leo Gaji's family through real life event and experience.
    Hehe, my two cents..
    Got a bit excited writing this..
    Truly appreciate you sharing the drills..
    So the least I can do is sub and share..
    I'll post this clip on FB after this.
    All the Best with your channel subscriptions.
    Wish all is well with you and your love ones..
    Stay safe,
    Enjoys 😁🙏🤩

    • @logan607
      @logan607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fascinating - thanks!

  • @dallassteel625
    @dallassteel625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you break down “The Protector” fight scene? Preferably the scene near the end where he fights 100 guys. I’d appreciate it.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tony Jaa broke so many bones in that scene!

  • @Rakerong
    @Rakerong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like if I just got cracked on the top of the head with a direct baton strike, I would not be making the most logical attack choices from there on out XD
    Great dissection! I loved the scene, and knew a lot of it was definitely unnecessary, given there's a knife involved. It's good to see what would have worked better instead.

  • @Rob_Kankerboef
    @Rob_Kankerboef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see you guys do a breakdown on lethal weapon 1, the fight between mel gibson and gary busey

    • @mackychloe
      @mackychloe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      interesting choice.

  • @akmaddianfirli3591
    @akmaddianfirli3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Penjelasan dan tehnik yg sempurna om....

  • @nefariousnilbog
    @nefariousnilbog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found and subbed to channel

  • @arash5458
    @arash5458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I watched some more recent videos and now checking this out, I feel like chad is alot thinner here,He is in much more better shape right now

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chad had plenty of time to do work out lately 💪💪

  • @benjaminpujols1914
    @benjaminpujols1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I love that movie too I believe I have it on DVD somewhere I've got a few Killzone movies and I believe one of them sammo hung is in with Donnie Yen and I also have on DVD the first three IP movies Donnie Yen did and all I'm missing is the last fight and the one with a showcase Bruce Lee

  • @caliburga9071
    @caliburga9071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the conclusion

  • @pangGo
    @pangGo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see you break down the knife fight scenes from The Man From Nowhere

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ask and you shall receive here is our two video breakdown of The Man From Nowhere:
      Part 1: th-cam.com/video/ioUBE7P7TNQ/w-d-xo.html
      Part 2: th-cam.com/video/nKP_iySGGuI/w-d-xo.html

  • @TheLukeMonster
    @TheLukeMonster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I love most about this fight is how it's broken into three distinct sections:
    1) The two combatants charge, overconfident in themselves and underestimating each other, and they each get injured - Donnie sustains two cuts and Wu takes two hits to the ribs.
    2) Weary of their opponents' abilities, they now fight in short bursts, looking for an opening but afraid to commit to an attack they can't back out of in a hurry.
    3) Frustrated at the lack of progress, Donnie rushes with everything he's got and the rest of the fight is as frantic as can be.

  • @ministerd.1212
    @ministerd.1212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Theres a fight scene I and im sure alot of others would like to see. I totally think you guys should breakdown the ending fight scene from the movie "The Hunted" with Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio Del toro from 2003. much appreciated

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here you go! Our Breakdown of The Hunted: th-cam.com/video/UxfkSrOq1BY/w-d-xo.html
      Is there any other scene that you would like to see us breakdown?

  • @miguelborges6548
    @miguelborges6548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love learning everyday

  • @mkx624
    @mkx624 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved donnie yen since i was 8

  • @CoASoFi
    @CoASoFi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool breakdown! I don't know how true this is but I heard that portions of this fight were improvised.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both Donnie Yen and Wu Jing are amazing action martial artist.

  • @D20Steel
    @D20Steel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dueling in reverse grip will always be a bad idea. It's meant for grappling at extreme close range and for concealment to draw cut/stab. Modern examples of reverse grip include military training for when clearing a room and turning a corner if someone on the other side grapples you and your primary weapon (gun) you can pull your knife and stab in reverse grip to get them off you.

  • @arpanjain3307
    @arpanjain3307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing man!!!
    Make a video on Indian movie - Rocky handsome knife scene

  • @whitelabrat
    @whitelabrat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if you take requests but ... The Man From Nowhere is one of the knife fights scenes I used to love most. =)

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do take request and we fulfill them!
      Here is our The Man From Nowhere breakdowns:
      Cha's Melee Scene Part 1: th-cam.com/video/ioUBE7P7TNQ/w-d-xo.html
      Karambit Fight Scene Part 2: th-cam.com/video/nKP_iySGGuI/w-d-xo.html

  • @Travrebel
    @Travrebel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very humbling

  • @aceofspades856
    @aceofspades856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do one of these videos for the karambit fight in Raid 2? Or if you have, please let me know.

  • @LukasOD5
    @LukasOD5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to hear your views on raid redemption, hallway fight scene.

  • @hyecutie1
    @hyecutie1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the Rattan Stick. Best wooooood ever

  • @stevocamatcho9266
    @stevocamatcho9266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video brother mabuhay magaling ang PINOY I subscribe u now

  • @xeroofnine6234
    @xeroofnine6234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i get your point but i was always told that when being attacked with a blunt weapon such as that baton or a baseball bat, you want to try and stay as close a possible, because of course he can still slightly hit, or bump and tap with it or use as a lever to disarm you, but being close takes away their ability to swing the weapon which is what will ultimately incapacitate you against that weapon. so my instincts having a knife would be to stay close so i dont get knocked out while also doing as you said and flanking as much as i cant hoping to get numerous small cuts to eventually incapacitate him or cause enough pain through flesh wounds to make him give up his attack an leave. thats just thoughts if there were a spur of moment attack on the streets.

  • @arforafro5523
    @arforafro5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching the first seconds I thought to myself "those look a lot like the Kali sticks from CoD, I wonder what they are called in real life", only to remember a few seconds later the fact this guys practice KALI and they mention it every video and realizing I was having a massive brain fart.

  • @RLAMultimedia
    @RLAMultimedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, I know it might not fall under martial arts, per se, but Game of Thrones had a lot of really great weapon scenes. Would love to see you guys break down one of the fights from the show. So many opportunities for Logan to go into sword critiques and stuff like that.

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll talk to Logan and the team. We may consider GoT and/or The Witcher.

    • @RLAMultimedia
      @RLAMultimedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ScenicFights That would be awesome!

  • @patiscool5553
    @patiscool5553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd like to see his take on Captain America Winter soldier. Especially considering all the weird factors. Like a shield or bionic arm

    • @ScenicFights
      @ScenicFights  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got it and it was fun! We even got the shield in our breakdown: th-cam.com/video/-Ci6ttRVSRU/w-d-xo.html

  • @BarbarossaSC2
    @BarbarossaSC2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:43 - Good advice!