Really interesting game even if heavy. I really enjoy how you explain all the rules carefully and slowly so viewers can keep up. Also great work doing the personal player board filming, and great job by Monique working things out so adeptly, and still able to explain and not give clues away to Naveen- that takes some skill! I really enjoy your way of presenting games so you are my go to for viewing any games to find out about and see it played, cheers!
When describing an alchemical token, you don't have to list out all three aspects. You can uniquely identify all alchemicals by the "describe the large aspect(s)" rule. For example, instead of saying "small red negative, large green positive, small blue positive", you can just say "large green positive". It's true there's one other token with a large green positive aspect, but that one is better described as "all positive". Each of the 6 color/sign combinations appears only once, with "all positive" or "all negative" for the remaining two. It's an incredible time save, not to mention there's much less room for error or miscommunication.
Another amazing walkthrough! For this newbie to games, this is probably the most complex. Watching you folks play, whilst I have the game out and the rulebook to hand makes it so much more accessible. I still have questions and need clarity around the deduction, but I love this game. I now have to teach the wife and a pal, so that we can play a proper game! Thank you for a great video.
Was watching this over dinner, and had a small correction to offer: I believe the loss of reputation for selling neutral or mismatched potions is based on the result, not the guarantee/offer. So you can guarantee neutral or better if you aren't confident in the result, but won't get penalized if the actual potion made is the correct +/-. It's been a couple years since you posted this, so maybe that's old new, sorry! I really enjoy your playthroughs, and this one was no exception!
I'm NOT a boardgame nerd. But I played this game in NYE and loved it. The thing I like the most is that it gives you a personal objective of finding the stuff for yourself. We played a game with 5 people, the most experienced GM it. It end up taking us almost 4 hours. I end up winning, just to say that even if it looks complicated, it's just hard to explain. My advice if to play the 3 rounds until first assembly in the open for people to learn and then start a new game proper. I really liked having no dice to roll. Choosing your turn and getting stuff to compensate you for going last. The mechanics are interesting and it all seems very balanced. The game doesn't have that last reveal mega surprises on scores, but at the same time you can't just run away with victory and leave the rest of the players with no hope.
Wanted to have this game, but man, the amount of players that I can invite is super thin, but whatever, I’d still buy it 😂. Also, double thumbs up to you guys, this video is underrated and tricky to film. The player perspective approach is very good, don’t mind the shakiness (not much shaking honestly) and the tutorial is top notch as per usual 👍👍👌.
You guys are adorable and very articulate. Like you I have had this game for years but I am going to be playing this game for the first time tomorrow with my wife. She loves deduction and worker placement...so we'll get to find out if she likes them being combined together or not. We'll see. Thanks for the great video.
Rule clarification: if you debunk a theory you proposed or hedged wrong, you still lose 5, but is counted as a net 3 loss for the sake of the special reputation track areas.
Yes! I was trying to figure out what this game reminded me of and you said Clue and YES! I loved Clue as a kid. Definitely picking this one up. A game I love to hate to play this time of year is Eldritch Horror. I'm not good at it, but I keep going back for more punishment.
I hope you guys will enjoy it? Do you think your partner will like this one? We still haven't played Eldritch, but it seems super thematic for Halloween! :)
@@BeforeYouPlay I don’t know! Lol. But he’ll try most games at least once. It’s how I get him to play Villainous. “But you haven’t tried THIS character yet!” Lol! Will you two have Halloween game plans??
@@BeforeYouPlay i finally decided to pull the game off the shelf and test out a two-player game, because I was thinking of selling it (since it hasn’t been played and the deduction seemed difficult), Thanks to your video, I picked up the deduction quickly, and the game actually seemed way more straightforward and fun than I expected. It will remain on the shelf and get table time now! And the expansion is already in the box, laughing at my use of “straightforward” to describe the apprentice version of the game. 😂 Thanks so much!
This game looks like a blast, tbh. I love the theme and gosh darn it, I love deduction. I think I could even get this one to the table, its not a terribly long game.
This game looks wonderful, I just purchased it. I'm hoping a couple of my boardgame night invitees (who happen to be biotech researchers) might enjoy this. :)
I noticed you guys didn't use/have the cauldron screens attached to scan the cards in 🤔 might have been because you're both in the same side of the table?
By the way, the official names of the ingredients are: mandrake root raven‘s feather common toad shaggy ink cap red scorpion wood fern hawk‘s claw stemless gentian I like to keep the mood of the theme by using the true names, like professional alchemists do! ;-)
We got this game very early in our hobby board game life. It will leave you mentally exhausted. We love it and still play it often but will never get the expansion. That's just a bridge too far for us. We don't really have a Halloween favorite. This year we will be playing Abomination Heir of Frankenstein for the second year in a row. Love the macabre theme and the whole look of the game.
I know this was 2 years ago, but please avoid showing your PIN to access electronics on future videos, additionally, I hope you changed all matching PINs for devices! Around the 50:00 mark you typed the PIN in the Tablet.
I Played it for the first time today....i had problems in what to deduct when i have a neutral result at the first 3 experiments ..what to mark off on the paper...will take some Time..but we loved it....
The neautral can be really good on e you e found out one of those ingredients exact alchemical symbol then you know two basically as you know the other is the complete opposite. So I'd focus on deducing one of those as quick as possible 🤗
Question for someone who has this game (assuming anyone sees this...)...Reading the instructions, the number of actions you get per round is 6 for 2 player, 5 for 3, and 4 for 4 players. Given the nature of the game, it seems kind of important to be able to test a certain amount, but you literally have fewer total actions (by quite a bit) with more players. How does this effect the game? It seems that with 4 players, there is going to end up being a LOT more guessing (and likely debunking for this reason) when it comes to publishing. To me, it seems like this would feel like a very different game when playing with two than when playing with four. Can anyone speak to this?
I played a total of 20 games approx. In 4 player you have less actions but other players help you to figure out the secret ingredients. Every time someone publishes a theory you can use that info (I mean assuming that person is not bluffing :D ). Overall in 4 player I was many times able to figure out all the ingredients. It is a great game. Try it for sure.
The thing about this game is that the goal is to get as much reputation as possible. The goal is not to figure out all the alchemicals. You arent supposed to be able to work out everything. The game forces you to publish theories even though you have little information. You have to make your best guess, but the important thing is that others believe that you might be right so they dont debunk you. If others think you might have the right answer, then they will endorse your theories. Your theories might be wrong, but who cares if it generates you points anyway and isnt debunked. Thats the key to this game, its a bit of a satire on real life where convincing others is more important than truth. In that respect its quite a humorous game.
I played The Big Book of Madness on Halloween eve :) A question for you: if you have to pick Trismegistus OR Alchemist, which one do you prefer? And 2nd question, do you guys have a BGG account?
The expansion is excellent. It don’t think it makes the deduction itself that much more difficult... however, it increases the extent to which player’s actions are spread thin since there is so much you want to do. So, you need to make tough decisions about what to focus on and try to do as much as you can with as little information as you can... since the more time you spend getting info. via experiments the less action cubes you have to complete all the other things you want to do
@@BeforeYouPlay Naveen still owes me a game of this at Strategicon when Covid is over after I complained about not getting to play the expansion because I always played with new players. :P
I love this but without a solo variant and its relying on an app worries me. If the game goes out of print will they keep the app up=to=date with OS changes etc? Probably not. It's such an awesome game, maybe they need to device a new version that has a solo variant and is not app dependent (or third person dependent_ If so I'd buy it in a minute.
Waaayyyy too complex for me. We've tried it a few times but I just couldn't figure it out. The whole deduction thing with the ingredients was too much to wrap my head around. Not to mention all of the other stuff going on
This game sounds really fun, But i have a concern before purchasing it , i wish if someone can answer me , does the mixing give different result in other gameplays ? Or is it always the same ?
At the 29:35 mark...if the results of your ingredient mixing is supposed to be kept super secret...then why in the world would you say *out loud* that... "where those two ingredients intersected on my player board... I'm going to look for it on my player board...they intersect at the very top, right here. So I'm going to put a blue positive!" You seriously don't think that anybody sitting at a table with you won't pick up on what you just said and know that the very top of your player board is a blue positive?! Therefore they'll know that you scanned the purple mushroom and the black feather! Sure you may say that you're giving instruction to those people watching but you're also playing against the dude right next to you!!! Unless he's been drinking heavily or is deaf, I'm sure heard you!
Hi! I've been following your channel and really love your plays and reviews! I really like this game but what got frustrating was how you could not put a duplicate token for your theory if someone else has already used it (say all big positive for mandrake root, but someone else has already used it for the mushroom), which technically, you should be able to. At least that's what we felt. You can only debunk that person's theory, but you will never be able to publish the theory of your own. So that was the biggest frustration. How do you both feel about that?
Hi Angela! Actually, if someone else used the token you need for a different ingredient, you can debunk them, and assuming they were wrong and you were actually correct, you can publish a theory using that token right away. You just have to have a worker in the "publish theory' action space as well. I hope that makes sense. Please let me know if I misunderstood the situation.
@@BeforeYouPlay Oh no! Maybe we were playing it wrong a little! But maybe we should be able to publish immediately rather than still need a worker at the "publish a theory" space. Does that mean you can debunk your own theory? Thanks for the info! Can't wait to play it again with friends once this Movement Control Order is over!
@@angelathas399 Yes indeed. You can assuming you have a cube on debunking theory and a cube on publishing theory first correctly debunk their theory removing it from the board, and as a bonus you get to IMMEDIATELY perform the publish theory action IF YOU WANT (no matter the normal turn order) but ONLY for either the exact ALCHEMICAL that you just debunked or the exact INGREDIENT you just debunked.
I want to play this game but i know im going to be bad at it. That deduction part, its not a fit for me 😑😅 and then explaining it to my friends, wowza.
I feel the same....i bought it yesterday and i kind of know that it will be a loooong time in the shelf bc i have noone to play with....(therefore no need to explain that mess on the board hehe)..i like Sudoku but even at mastermind i suck..
What a fantastic playthrough! Many thanks. There's also a great tutorial on the deduction logic for Alchemists by Meeple University: th-cam.com/video/xLWX784aAg4/w-d-xo.html This is one of the best games I've played, but six rounds never seem like enough. The King's Golem expansion really adds to the game. It's got four parts, one of which is about animating the golem with a new angle on deduction. There are also two handy promo cards for this game, listed on Board Game Geek under the Expansions tab for Alchemists.
I need to find a boarc game😢I need a present for my self and a 2 presents cuz my friends want to give me one and I can't just tell them give me money intsead
I normally really enjoy your content because you are one of the only review teams that cover heavier games and seem to be generally nontoxic personalities; but, please don't forget to credit the designer in your introduction. It may not seem like a big deal to you, but it is to me and it's absolutely something that has caused me to unsubscribe from other channels when I noticed it happening too often. Board game design is an auteur artistic pursuit much more than most forms of entertainment. Games that were designed by a committee within a publishing house are much less common in our hobby than in something like video game design and development. Alchemists is the artistic vision of Matúš Kotry, who is an innovator that deserves recognition for his work. Publishers' involvement in the production of most board games, on the other hand, is almost entirely economic and therefore a necessary evil. Just because CGE happens to be one of the very few truly ethical publishers on the planet doesn't mean they deserve headline above the artist. Would you introduce someone to "The Way of Kings" by claiming it was made by Tor Book instead of by Brandon Sanderson? If you did, people would rightly identify you as corporate capitalist stooges who were more interested in kickbacks from publishers than about celebrating joy and art. Again, I very much enjoy what I've seen of your content so far, which is why I care enough to complain about the intro here being disrespectful to the artist, even if it was accidental.
Yeah sorry about that, it was an accidental oversight. We normally include the designers name but for some reason forgot. We have gone back and added it in the Klingon subtitles.
@@BeforeYouPlay Thank you! Sorry to derail the conversation, but it's something I care about a lot. I love this game and it was a lot of fun to watch you guys playing it.
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What are your favorite games to play around this time of year?
Really interesting game even if heavy. I really enjoy how you explain all the rules carefully and slowly so viewers can keep up. Also great work doing the personal player board filming, and great job by Monique working things out so adeptly, and still able to explain and not give clues away to Naveen- that takes some skill! I really enjoy your way of presenting games so you are my go to for viewing any games to find out about and see it played, cheers!
It's super secret...the other player cannot know what two ingredients you mixed... 29:40 "...they intersect at the very top, right here..." LOL
When describing an alchemical token, you don't have to list out all three aspects. You can uniquely identify all alchemicals by the "describe the large aspect(s)" rule. For example, instead of saying "small red negative, large green positive, small blue positive", you can just say "large green positive". It's true there's one other token with a large green positive aspect, but that one is better described as "all positive". Each of the 6 color/sign combinations appears only once, with "all positive" or "all negative" for the remaining two. It's an incredible time save, not to mention there's much less room for error or miscommunication.
Another amazing walkthrough! For this newbie to games, this is probably the most complex. Watching you folks play, whilst I have the game out and the rulebook to hand makes it so much more accessible. I still have questions and need clarity around the deduction, but I love this game. I now have to teach the wife and a pal, so that we can play a proper game! Thank you for a great video.
Did you play it?
Just pulled this off our shelf! Thanks for the fun play through, we’re very excited to get it to the table tomorrow! You guys are so adorable!
Was watching this over dinner, and had a small correction to offer: I believe the loss of reputation for selling neutral or mismatched potions is based on the result, not the guarantee/offer. So you can guarantee neutral or better if you aren't confident in the result, but won't get penalized if the actual potion made is the correct +/-. It's been a couple years since you posted this, so maybe that's old new, sorry! I really enjoy your playthroughs, and this one was no exception!
This game looks awesome. Not sure I would’ve found out about it without this review! Thanks for the high quality work!
It's always in the catalogs that come inside CGE games.
I'm NOT a boardgame nerd. But I played this game in NYE and loved it. The thing I like the most is that it gives you a personal objective of finding the stuff for yourself.
We played a game with 5 people, the most experienced GM it. It end up taking us almost 4 hours. I end up winning, just to say that even if it looks complicated, it's just hard to explain. My advice if to play the 3 rounds until first assembly in the open for people to learn and then start a new game proper.
I really liked having no dice to roll. Choosing your turn and getting stuff to compensate you for going last.
The mechanics are interesting and it all seems very balanced. The game doesn't have that last reveal mega surprises on scores, but at the same time you can't just run away with victory and leave the rest of the players with no hope.
this is a really awesome explanation! thx guys
upd: and a beautiful playthrough)
i really want this game now, ehh :D
I know this is 3 years ago, but I hope we could see a King's Golem play 😊 Nice game!
This game looks so fun. I've been loving your videos! You guys are great and so easy to watch. Thanks!
Wanted to have this game, but man, the amount of players that I can invite is super thin, but whatever, I’d still buy it 😂. Also, double thumbs up to you guys, this video is underrated and tricky to film. The player perspective approach is very good, don’t mind the shakiness (not much shaking honestly) and the tutorial is top notch as per usual 👍👍👌.
The only way I could learn to play this game is through your video, so thank you!!!!
stop making every game you play look like immense fun. I'm sure it is illegal to have this much fun, and I can't afford all these games.
You guys are adorable and very articulate. Like you I have had this game for years but I am going to be playing this game for the first time tomorrow with my wife. She loves deduction and worker placement...so we'll get to find out if she likes them being combined together or not. We'll see. Thanks for the great video.
Aww thanks David! Hope you both a a lot of fun! It's satisfying when you can "debunk" your opponents theory!
I love this game! The limited time and deductive reasoning is great. I also love worker placement!
Couldn't agree more!
I'm trying to like it, we're having a problem with certain parts of the logic puzzle that make it difficult to play for us
@@chuckawade1 i suck when the result is neutral in the first tests...
@@chuckawade1 For Alchemists, Meeple University did a terrific tutorial on the deduction logic: th-cam.com/video/xLWX784aAg4/w-d-xo.html
another great one, my number 2 game of all time, loooooove this game :)
It's fantastic! We love the way it makes us use the deduction side of our brain. :)
Nice! I just bought it and just by wathing this video I was very fascinated 😃 by the way Mihir Shah what is your #1game? 🤔
@@TheRobeRta Scythe is my number 1 all time but if you like deduction games like Alchemists then Cryptid and The Search for Planet X is a must try too
Thank you ;)
Yes! Love this game! Try The King's Golem! Really improves the game play
We've played with it once and I remember it changes the game quite a bit! Would love to try it again. :)
@@abc-ug5ym yes, but you will need a neutral person that doesn’t participate in the game and will give the outcome information to other players
Rule clarification: if you debunk a theory you proposed or hedged wrong, you still lose 5, but is counted as a net 3 loss for the sake of the special reputation track areas.
Yes! I was trying to figure out what this game reminded me of and you said Clue and YES! I loved Clue as a kid. Definitely picking this one up. A game I love to hate to play this time of year is Eldritch Horror. I'm not good at it, but I keep going back for more punishment.
I hope you guys will enjoy it? Do you think your partner will like this one?
We still haven't played Eldritch, but it seems super thematic for Halloween! :)
@@BeforeYouPlay I don’t know! Lol. But he’ll try most games at least once. It’s how I get him to play Villainous. “But you haven’t tried THIS character yet!” Lol!
Will you two have Halloween game plans??
Great! I have this sitting on the shelf and need to play it soon.
You should! Have you tried it before?
@@BeforeYouPlay Not yet! Part of the “shelf of opportunity” :)
@@BeforeYouPlay i finally decided to pull the game off the shelf and test out a two-player game, because I was thinking of selling it (since it hasn’t been played and the deduction seemed difficult), Thanks to your video, I picked up the deduction quickly, and the game actually seemed way more straightforward and fun than I expected. It will remain on the shelf and get table time now! And the expansion is already in the box, laughing at my use of “straightforward” to describe the apprentice version of the game. 😂 Thanks so much!
This game looks like a blast, tbh. I love the theme and gosh darn it, I love deduction. I think I could even get this one to the table, its not a terribly long game.
This game looks wonderful, I just purchased it. I'm hoping a couple of my boardgame night invitees (who happen to be biotech researchers) might enjoy this. :)
I noticed you guys didn't use/have the cauldron screens attached to scan the cards in 🤔 might have been because you're both in the same side of the table?
Yeah exactly, plus we have to account for viewer experience/filming ease.
Ah, makes sense! Loved the video, still one of my favorite deduction games.
By the way, the official names of the ingredients are:
mandrake root
raven‘s feather
common toad
shaggy ink cap
red scorpion
wood fern
hawk‘s claw
stemless gentian
I like to keep the mood of the theme by using the true names, like professional alchemists do! ;-)
Honest answer. All of them. Have you tried watergate. It’s pretty good awesome tug of war
It's one that's on our list to play at some point! We still have to play Twilight Struggle too.
Can you tell me what setup (video) you use for the birds eye video? Thanks
We got this game very early in our hobby board game life. It will leave you mentally exhausted. We love it and still play it often but will never get the expansion. That's just a bridge too far for us. We don't really have a Halloween favorite. This year we will be playing Abomination Heir of Frankenstein for the second year in a row. Love the macabre theme and the whole look of the game.
Wow Alchemists early on! Yes the expansion adds some serious levels to an already tough game. Good call on Abomination Heir of Frankenstein. :)
Another awesome job!
Thank you Paul! Cheers!
Betrayal at the house on the hill is just mad but it is great (also has a great unofficial two player variant)
Good Call! We used to love playing that game when we first got into games. Didn't know there was a good 2P variant, we'll have to check it out.
I know this was 2 years ago, but please avoid showing your PIN to access electronics on future videos, additionally, I hope you changed all matching PINs for devices! Around the 50:00 mark you typed the PIN in the Tablet.
Thank you for this, 2 years later and we never noticed lol. Thankfully those pins have been changed and we are now on alert.
I love watching your videos but my bank account doesn't. lol. Another game that I'll have to get. Thank you! Keep up the great work!
lol I know!!! :(
Great video, for me though the best alchemy based game is Quacks of Quedlinberg...I’d love to see you try that one as it’s great fun.
I Played it for the first time today....i had problems in what to deduct when i have a neutral result at the first 3 experiments ..what to mark off on the paper...will take some Time..but we loved it....
The neautral can be really good on e you e found out one of those ingredients exact alchemical symbol then you know two basically as you know the other is the complete opposite. So I'd focus on deducing one of those as quick as possible 🤗
Question for someone who has this game (assuming anyone sees this...)...Reading the instructions, the number of actions you get per round is 6 for 2 player, 5 for 3, and 4 for 4 players. Given the nature of the game, it seems kind of important to be able to test a certain amount, but you literally have fewer total actions (by quite a bit) with more players. How does this effect the game? It seems that with 4 players, there is going to end up being a LOT more guessing (and likely debunking for this reason) when it comes to publishing. To me, it seems like this would feel like a very different game when playing with two than when playing with four. Can anyone speak to this?
I played a total of 20 games approx. In 4 player you have less actions but other players help you to figure out the secret ingredients. Every time someone publishes a theory you can use that info (I mean assuming that person is not bluffing :D ). Overall in 4 player I was many times able to figure out all the ingredients. It is a great game. Try it for sure.
The thing about this game is that the goal is to get as much reputation as possible. The goal is not to figure out all the alchemicals. You arent supposed to be able to work out everything. The game forces you to publish theories even though you have little information. You have to make your best guess, but the important thing is that others believe that you might be right so they dont debunk you. If others think you might have the right answer, then they will endorse your theories. Your theories might be wrong, but who cares if it generates you points anyway and isnt debunked. Thats the key to this game, its a bit of a satire on real life where convincing others is more important than truth. In that respect its quite a humorous game.
I played The Big Book of Madness on Halloween eve :)
A question for you: if you have to pick Trismegistus OR Alchemist, which one do you prefer? And 2nd question, do you guys have a BGG account?
I bought this game with the expansion, but we still haven't tried the King's Golem :D But it's a top 3 game for me.
We own the expansion but rarely play with it since we frequently play with new players.
The expansion is excellent. It don’t think it makes the deduction itself that much more difficult... however, it increases the extent to which player’s actions are spread thin since there is so much you want to do. So, you need to make tough decisions about what to focus on and try to do as much as you can with as little information as you can... since the more time you spend getting info. via experiments the less action cubes you have to complete all the other things you want to do
@@BeforeYouPlay Naveen still owes me a game of this at Strategicon when Covid is over after I complained about not getting to play the expansion because I always played with new players. :P
I love this but without a solo variant and its relying on an app worries me. If the game goes out of print will they keep the app up=to=date with OS changes etc? Probably not. It's such an awesome game, maybe they need to device a new version that has a solo variant and is not app dependent (or third person dependent_ If so I'd buy it in a minute.
There is a board for a non competitive player to set up an answer key and play as if they were the app
For folks wanting to try out the game, you can play it free at www.boiteajeux.net/index.php?p=regles, fully automated, and licensed by the publisher.
Waaayyyy too complex for me. We've tried it a few times but I just couldn't figure it out. The whole deduction thing with the ingredients was too much to wrap my head around. Not to mention all of the other stuff going on
This game sounds really fun,
But i have a concern before purchasing it , i wish if someone can answer me , does the mixing give different result in other gameplays ? Or is it always the same ?
Hi! Yes, each game will give different combinations of results
@@BeforeYouPlayvery cool, thank you very much
At the 29:35 mark...if the results of your ingredient mixing is supposed to be kept super secret...then why in the world would you say *out loud* that...
"where those two ingredients intersected on my player board... I'm going to look for it on my player board...they intersect at the very top, right here. So I'm going to put a blue positive!"
You seriously don't think that anybody sitting at a table with you won't pick up on what you just said and know that the very top of your player board is a blue positive?! Therefore they'll know that you scanned the purple mushroom and the black feather!
Sure you may say that you're giving instruction to those people watching but you're also playing against the dude right next to you!!! Unless he's been drinking heavily or is deaf, I'm sure heard you!
Hi! I've been following your channel and really love your plays and reviews! I really like this game but what got frustrating was how you could not put a duplicate token for your theory if someone else has already used it (say all big positive for mandrake root, but someone else has already used it for the mushroom), which technically, you should be able to. At least that's what we felt. You can only debunk that person's theory, but you will never be able to publish the theory of your own. So that was the biggest frustration. How do you both feel about that?
Hi Angela! Actually, if someone else used the token you need for a different ingredient, you can debunk them, and assuming they were wrong and you were actually correct, you can publish a theory using that token right away. You just have to have a worker in the "publish theory' action space as well. I hope that makes sense. Please let me know if I misunderstood the situation.
Also, thank you so much for your kind words!!
@@BeforeYouPlay Oh no! Maybe we were playing it wrong a little! But maybe we should be able to publish immediately rather than still need a worker at the "publish a theory" space. Does that mean you can debunk your own theory? Thanks for the info! Can't wait to play it again with friends once this Movement Control Order is over!
@@angelathas399 Yes indeed. You can assuming you have a cube on debunking theory and a cube on publishing theory first correctly debunk their theory removing it from the board, and as a bonus you get to IMMEDIATELY perform the publish theory action IF YOU WANT (no matter the normal turn order) but ONLY for either the exact ALCHEMICAL that you just debunked or the exact INGREDIENT you just debunked.
Fun game! Do you guys have Through the Ages? I'm thinking of buying it but not sure if it is difficult to play with all the cube shuffling.
Hi there! We haven't played it but have heard the app is one of the best in the industry. Most people say they will only play the app version now.
I love most how nice and warm you are with each other....really a cool couple....i really do notice that in each video...
I want to play this game but i know im going to be bad at it. That deduction part, its not a fit for me 😑😅 and then explaining it to my friends, wowza.
I feel the same....i bought it yesterday and i kind of know that it will be a loooong time in the shelf bc i have noone to play with....(therefore no need to explain that mess on the board hehe)..i like Sudoku but even at mastermind i suck..
Can you teach ROOT?
What a fantastic playthrough! Many thanks. There's also a great tutorial on the deduction logic for Alchemists by Meeple University: th-cam.com/video/xLWX784aAg4/w-d-xo.html
This is one of the best games I've played, but six rounds never seem like enough. The King's Golem expansion really adds to the game. It's got four parts, one of which is about animating the golem with a new angle on deduction. There are also two handy promo cards for this game, listed on Board Game Geek under the Expansions tab for Alchemists.
Hey gal....What happened to your thumb????
Random cut, not sure what happened lol.
@@BeforeYouPlay Were you making a potion?
I admire this game, but I found it just a bit too bloated for me. Heavy deduction, worker placement, bluffing, racing...phew, wears me out lol.
lol that's fair, it's definitely not for everyone. The deduction can sometimes scramble our brains.
I need to find a boarc game😢I need a present for my self and a 2 presents cuz my friends want to give me one and I can't just tell them give me money intsead
its absolutely not for everyone. I HATED this game, I walked alway from a game I was playing with my friends. and I never do that.
I normally really enjoy your content because you are one of the only review teams that cover heavier games and seem to be generally nontoxic personalities; but, please don't forget to credit the designer in your introduction. It may not seem like a big deal to you, but it is to me and it's absolutely something that has caused me to unsubscribe from other channels when I noticed it happening too often.
Board game design is an auteur artistic pursuit much more than most forms of entertainment. Games that were designed by a committee within a publishing house are much less common in our hobby than in something like video game design and development. Alchemists is the artistic vision of Matúš Kotry, who is an innovator that deserves recognition for his work. Publishers' involvement in the production of most board games, on the other hand, is almost entirely economic and therefore a necessary evil. Just because CGE happens to be one of the very few truly ethical publishers on the planet doesn't mean they deserve headline above the artist.
Would you introduce someone to "The Way of Kings" by claiming it was made by Tor Book instead of by Brandon Sanderson? If you did, people would rightly identify you as corporate capitalist stooges who were more interested in kickbacks from publishers than about celebrating joy and art.
Again, I very much enjoy what I've seen of your content so far, which is why I care enough to complain about the intro here being disrespectful to the artist, even if it was accidental.
Yeah sorry about that, it was an accidental oversight. We normally include the designers name but for some reason forgot. We have gone back and added it in the Klingon subtitles.
@@BeforeYouPlay Thank you! Sorry to derail the conversation, but it's something I care about a lot. I love this game and it was a lot of fun to watch you guys playing it.
Wow wth honestly