Bruh just fix it. Many people cost much money just to replace things/sirens. But how if the siren can fixed? If the siren cannot fixed, just keep the siren on there or replace the broken parts. Easy, right? Save money.
It seems as if it was wired in the same style as a Klaxon CS8 but instead of the solenoids opening the dampers such as on the CS8 (as they are spring-loaded to close) they are activated to close the dampers
I bet I know what's going on. Did you hear the clank right before the siren started? That was both of the dampers closing. And they stayed closed throughout the test. Causing there to be little air incoming into the intake tubes. And with less air resistance, the choppers spin faster. Which causes the pitch to be raised. And with less air, the siren isn't as loud as it is supposed to be. The solenoid's relays in the controls must have shorted out somehow. Best get that checked out.
I know lots of people are arguing about what exactly is the matter with the siren. The solenoids seem to be wired to the motor contacter, meaning the dampers shut when power is applied to the motor, and open when power is cut. TrainsAndSirens1 The motor, even with brush angle tampered with, would not run this fast with the dampers open. The *clunk* sound before it starts (in case you don't know) is the dampers shutting, and they don't open up until the siren winds down. If the rotors don't get air, they have no load. Since the load on the motor is less, it runs faster. In the case of this siren (where nearly all the load is removed) the motor spins much faster than intended, which will inevitably lead to an early death of the motor when the brushes turn to dust or the bearings can no longer take the extra speed. Just in case you're wondering, this siren does test in Attack, albeit on an unusual schedule. They only test Attack during a certain chunk of the year, that chunk is constantly changing.
Research. Lots of research. For 3 years, I learned more and more about sirens. Despite that, there's still a lot I don't know. I'm not so much into sirens now as I used to be, so I haven't bothered to do more research on what I have yet to learn.
I think that’s just the solenoids stopping there long and obnoxious cycle that creates that waste of a sound. Why am I saying this because who ever designed those solenoid cycles needs to be fired right away! The normal 3t22 sounds better
i think it's really cool how u pretty much just hear the 4/5 undertones from the rotor vanes. it is going so freaking fast, it sounds like a low speed 8/10, or a 4/5 thunderbolt on a low chopper level
Sounds like the dampers engaged when it went off in alert. at the end you can hear them open. Interesting how they open slowly from the vacuum, hi side first then lo side.
@@deq_syd Nope. Still 10/12 port. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
@@northdakotasirens1520 Yes, Thats the same exact thing. The solenoids are shut. You could easily hear the clank at the start. Thats the solenoids shutting, causing less air to come inside the chopper.
Surprised the T-128 can be heard in the background almost clearly the entire duration of the video, this thing must've been heck of quiet with both the solenoids shut. Nice recording!
The dampers are engaged which allows less are in the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be low in volume Edit: literally started laughing how at the end of the test, the pitch of the siren changed so suddenly I after the dampers reopened
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast which is why it screamed at beginning of wind down
The dampers engaged when the siren was activated which allows less air into the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be less loud
GOD DAMN. something got screwed up in there! know underpowered well this might me overpowered! or brushes got screwed. imagine it with a stuck solenoid box! damn
Dampers both shut on wind-up, they don't open until wind-down. The motor is factory stock. The lack of rotor load (neither rotor getting air to chop) makes it go faster than it should.
Motor is off balance, causing the undertone. There are 3 pitches, 2 chopper 1 undertone. When the dampers close(both of them), there is less air resistance. So it is high pitched. This is a repulsion induction, maybe stuck on repulsion. That is why it is high pitched.
WOW. What happens if the solenoid boxes were not stuck ? XO That will make it high pitched as CRAP. Someone must have messed up the brushes in the motor. This siren is a single phase 3T22 (3T22B). Also, can this siren do attack?
Rockstar 1950 But... Its not being overpowered...Are you ignoring all the other previous comments? You seem to have been commenting quite a lot. Surely you came across the comment that explains what is wrong with the siren!
OK. It seems i keep finding more things to say about it, so, as opposed to filling up the comment section up, I'll put them all here: I bet this think is PAINFUL when the dampers open and it winds down. SE3T632 SiraTone EOWS*612 3T22 it sounds like it's running on 70 Hz. (I know it isn't.)
Sounds like its a friggen decot , probably the reason why its so high pitched is that it could be both solenoids where closed , its like a vacuum if you put your hand over the hose nozzle the higher rpm the motor goes because its starving for air .
R: what's wrong son r: I feel overheated dad R: my poor overheated angel (Doctor knocks on the door) R: let me go get the door and might be the doctor Doctor: hello can I come in please R: yes you may come in and you may find my son he's on the couch but I'm taking him to his room
sick is too low pitched or for thunderbolts the collector rings are messed up witch has the same result so this siren is on RED BULL and for Broken Solar Panel COLECTER RINGS CLORECTOR RINGS CLORECTE RINGS CLORETOR RINGS
No. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
The reason why it's so high pitches is because the 10 port row air intake is blocked and that causes less drag. If the 12 port row was blocked it would be even faster because no drag
Thats what its suppose to soundlike when some idiot wires the solenoids up with the motor starter. It sounds that high pitched because there is little to no air going through the intakes, thus causing the rotor to spin faster then normal. Solenoids are supposed to be connected to thier own timing box. (a RC6 penel I believe)
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Someone needs to get in there and disconnect the damn solenoids from the motor starter! That's a perfectly functional 3T22. It's just wired wrong.
Bruh just fix it. Many people cost much money just to replace things/sirens. But how if the siren can fixed? If the siren cannot fixed, just keep the siren on there or replace the broken parts. Easy, right? Save money.
It seems as if it was wired in the same style as a Klaxon CS8 but instead of the solenoids opening the dampers such as on the CS8 (as they are spring-loaded to close) they are activated to close the dampers
Intakes are shut stopping air from running through, therefore lowering the amount of air resistance, making the chopper spin faster.
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@@Band__geek who cares
it spins so fast it starts making it's own sub tones
@@Band__geek not cool.
@@Band__geek No ones laughing
I bet I know what's going on. Did you hear the clank right before the siren started? That was both of the dampers closing. And they stayed closed throughout the test. Causing there to be little air incoming into the intake tubes. And with less air resistance, the choppers spin faster. Which causes the pitch to be raised. And with less air, the siren isn't as loud as it is supposed to be. The solenoid's relays in the controls must have shorted out somehow. Best get that checked out.
HI BROKEN SOLAR PANEL!!!!!
No shit
Hey whelen, how are your collector rings doing?
@@Asmith-1111 no
@@Asmith-1111 it's a stupid nonsense joke that nobody likes
I know lots of people are arguing about what exactly is the matter with the siren. The solenoids seem to be wired to the motor contacter, meaning the dampers shut when power is applied to the motor, and open when power is cut.
TrainsAndSirens1 The motor, even with brush angle tampered with, would not run this fast with the dampers open. The *clunk* sound before it starts (in case you don't know) is the dampers shutting, and they don't open up until the siren winds down. If the rotors don't get air, they have no load. Since the load on the motor is less, it runs faster. In the case of this siren (where nearly all the load is removed) the motor spins much faster than intended, which will inevitably lead to an early death of the motor when the brushes turn to dust or the bearings can no longer take the extra speed.
Just in case you're wondering, this siren does test in Attack, albeit on an unusual schedule. They only test Attack during a certain chunk of the year, that chunk is constantly changing.
Research. Lots of research. For 3 years, I learned more and more about
sirens. Despite that, there's still a lot I don't know. I'm not so much
into sirens now as I used to be, so I haven't bothered to do more
research on what I have yet to learn.
you can tell they open when this thing winds down because it goes real high pitched on the wind down
Rothanak Meak what’s the point of that?
@Rothanak Meak You're probably just jealous of his knowledge
@Rothanak Meak Why lmao
It’s like a Shepard’s tone. It never stops rising
I was surprised it didn't fly off the pole!
lol i
***** sorry no can do. I only upload honest and original content
Right?
Blast off
Same
Surprised that thing doesn't just fly apart going that fast, or BBQ the motor.
Andy Thompson same
IT’S STILL ACTIVE AND KICKING!
3:05 I think it's voice cracked
meistern panzer thats the hi-lo i think
meistern panzer No, Wind Down
I think that’s just the solenoids stopping there long and obnoxious cycle that creates that waste of a sound. Why am I saying this because who ever designed those solenoid cycles needs to be fired right away! The normal 3t22 sounds better
who ever wired the solenoid like that should be fired
HA HA
ikr
Imagine this thing on a fire call.
@@youngmeteorologist8894 It probably will function the way it should if they have the AF Timer and RCM 3 running and have it set up to do High-Low.
Lol
i think it's really cool how u pretty much just hear the 4/5 undertones from the rotor vanes. it is going so freaking fast, it sounds like a low speed 8/10, or a 4/5 thunderbolt on a low chopper level
Mother of God...
Sounds like the dampers engaged when it went off in alert. at the end you can hear them open. Interesting how they open slowly from the vacuum, hi side first then lo side.
Top Horns (1020Hz)
Bottom Horns (950Hz)
16/20 port?
@@deq_syd I think
@@deq_syd or 50/52 port XD
@@deq_syd Nope. Still 10/12 port. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Imagine if there was a siren that was 16/20 port
I was just laughing at the sound this siren made at the start and at the end. Impressive to see a 3T22 chopper spin this fast. Jesus
sounds more like an automobile horn
Sounds like the THX opening in movies. Yeah, something's stuck inside it.
Air is trapped inside, that's why it is high pitchedm
@@mineshaftxx2221 nope
The solenoids are shut
@@northdakotasirens1520 Yes, Thats the same exact thing. The solenoids are shut. You could easily hear the clank at the start. Thats the solenoids shutting, causing less air to come inside the chopper.
@@JointedStudios not even close to the same LMAO
Surprised the T-128 can be heard in the background almost clearly the entire duration of the video, this thing must've been heck of quiet with both the solenoids shut. Nice recording!
sounds a little like the old thunderbolts of limerick that T-128.
The dampers are engaged which allows less are in the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be low in volume
Edit: literally started laughing how at the end of the test, the pitch of the siren changed so suddenly I after the dampers reopened
There was a literal squeak right as it shut down lol
Part of the reason why it is so high-pitched is because the solenoids shut as soon as it starts
I think everyone knows that.
Jared Thompson yeah, didn’t read other comments first. Oops
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast which is why it screamed at beginning of wind down
That's one high chopper level!!!
A 3T22 doesn't have chopper levels.
BRUH LOL
@@borkluchtalarm Shut up.they do. 8/10 ports, 10/12 ports.
@@illusionary5418 what is an 8/10 3t22? The prototype was 7/10 or 7/12
@@illusionary5418 they don’t bro that’s the port ratio and the only port ratio available for the 3/2t22 is 10/12
Dampers are closed which made i high pitched but very quiet because you can hear other sirens pretty clearly.
Damn that shut off sound ☺
How balanced are the choppers in that thing holy cow
Just because the Thunderbolt and Hurricane Sirens were supercharged.
*DOESNT MEAN THAT EVERY SIREN SHOULD BE SUPERCHARGED!*
_This is a joke_
I didn't think a 3t22 could produce a higher sound than it already does...
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
The dampers engaged when the siren was activated which allows less air into the intake tubes, making the choppers spin faster and the siren to be less loud
3:05 the dampers open back up slowly
You may hear the 2 T-128s in the distance as well
Could that damage the dampers by it going high pitched like that though the test and is that a T-128 heard coming around in spots in the background
Damage the motor maybe
3:05
Thunderbolt scooter that is a an American signal t128
It sounds like its in G major....
GOD DAMN. something got screwed up in there! know underpowered well this might me overpowered! or brushes got screwed. imagine it with a stuck solenoid box! damn
Dampers both shut on wind-up, they don't open until wind-down. The motor is factory stock. The lack of rotor load (neither rotor getting air to chop) makes it go faster than it should.
***** oh.
That sounds like a Airplane Jet engine sounding very close to the passengers.
That was it!!!! This was the one that had a creepy wind down in attack
O_O
it sound like a T-Bolt Chopper without the blower
both it is strange
I hope this siren never get replaced
replaced by 3T22 without stuck dampers XD
Mom is EOWS 612 Dad is 3t22A. This 3t22b is their baby. Solenoids close when siren is on, open when off.
Motor is off balance, causing the undertone. There are 3 pitches, 2 chopper 1 undertone. When the dampers close(both of them), there is less air resistance. So it is high pitched. This is a repulsion induction, maybe stuck on repulsion. That is why it is high pitched.
When it tried to activate i heard a whelen siren in the background and another siren when you listen closely
Eows 1212: You dare challenge my stats?
THQ
WOW. What happens if the solenoid boxes were not stuck ? XO That will make it high pitched as CRAP. Someone must have messed up the brushes in the motor. This siren is a single phase 3T22 (3T22B). Also, can this siren do attack?
No, it would be lower pitched, because air would be getting to the siren and slowing the motor down.
NO, someone messed with the brushes.
Thatbe something I'd like to see , this 3t22 in attack
TrainsAndSirens1 Are you stupid?
Check my vid.
Kinda sounds like a Japanese musical siren winding up
THE POWER OF 3T22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like it's about to blow up
If a 2001 was dual tone it would sound like this
Lol.... But it would sound like a 10/12 port sirens.
Well they're saving energy
Rockstar 1950 But... Its not being overpowered...Are you ignoring all the other previous comments? You seem to have been commenting quite a lot. Surely you came across the comment that explains what is wrong with the siren!
Foxy Pirate Fox No it isn't! The dampers shut on activation which makes the SINGLE PHASE motor spin faster and create this noise!
Sorry... But are you talking to yourself?
@@exofriend4895 Apparently so.
During my gap year, I want to see if I can get some siren footage.
OK. It seems i keep finding more things to say about it, so, as opposed to filling up the comment section up, I'll put them all here:
I bet this think is PAINFUL when the dampers open and it winds down.
SE3T632
SiraTone EOWS*612 3T22
it sounds like it's running on 70 Hz. (I know it isn't.)
it's that one high-pitched 3T 22
it screams on the wind down because of how overloaded the motor was...
The dampers reopened when it powered off so it sucked a whole bunch of air in while it was still running too fast.
When you pause the video and the sirens are still going...
It was kinda funny at the end to hear the dampers open and reaaallly scream for a second at full tilt
+MegaMobass lol
The bottom solenoid is stuck, maybe it is because of the air intake made the solenoid close
Sounds normal on the wind down since the dampers open up after being shut the whole tone.
Sounds like its a friggen decot , probably the reason why its so high pitched is that it could be both solenoids where closed , its like a vacuum if you put your hand over the hose nozzle the higher rpm the motor goes because its starving for air .
Which causes its pitch to be higher
the dampers close when activated
+- ̗̀BlackSharkRemixer ̖́- yup
Yeah, terrible
This has an issue with the RC6A and FC cabinet
When they wired it they wired all the inputs into one relay on the FC lmao
it sounds so weird when it starts up
You can hear solenoids click at the beginning, but they dont reset, thats probably the problem.
oh my thats a bit of mega spaghet going on there, its so high pitched due to one of the dampers being stuck
That sounds cool!
Yet creepy
@@BRISTOLFORCE2009 Kinda.
This is the electro mechanical version of Modulator.
The reason it is high pitch right as the siren activates the dampers on it closed due to two-tone
Ok! That’s scary!
All hail Clyde the Thunder God siren🤴
R: what's wrong son
r: I feel overheated dad
R: my poor overheated angel
(Doctor knocks on the door)
R: let me go get the door and might be the doctor
Doctor: hello can I come in please
R: yes you may come in and you may find my son he's on the couch but I'm taking him to his room
I got 3T22 at home
+Alexander Eckert
Annoy* Your* Neighbor*
😮WHAT!!!!!! I'm so jealous.
No proof at all
😯 Wait Really?
Damn that sounds good like this.
It sounds like a sick 3T22
sick is too low pitched or for thunderbolts the collector rings are messed up witch has the same result so this siren is on RED BULL and for Broken Solar Panel COLECTER RINGS CLORECTOR RINGS CLORECTE RINGS CLORETOR RINGS
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
@@J19_vlogger74 Shut up.
@@J19_vlogger74 Please don't say that in front of every siren enthusiast they will get annoyed by that collector rings joke
What a weird siren, the sound was playing a trick on me
Heard that clutch snap in at the start!
Probably the cause of the high pitch wale, but I think it sounds cool!
deludedrobloccplayer it was the dampers shutting
Almost all the sirens in Clyde 3t22s are really high pitched
Charger vlogs Only this one.
You Mean EXTREAMLY HI PITCHED
the low tone solenoid is broken, that is why it is high pitched
That is not how it works,
Oh wait, you might be right, the low tone solenoid closed as soon as the motor fired up.
No. Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
Sounds like they’re running the motor on 80Hz.
It’s high pitch because when the damper close it makes it high pitch
Ok, that is VERY high!
reason why is cuz its a b series and one of the intakes is blocked giving it more rotor speed.
+Say Wut? rants (TheGravyNavy) yea. i finally realized that the dampers close upon activation
It's an A series trust me - it is being run off of a converter I think
It's an A series trust me - it is being run off of a converter I think
its actually a b series and i found out the dampers close upon activation
- ̗̀StrikerTheFoxy ̖́-
Ok but still the Phase of the siren does not matter
it's only the fact that someone wired the solenoids to the Motor terminals
this sirens motor was spinning at around 9140 RPM
How are you so sure? Huh?
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
I love this
How the heck did that not just explode
I cannot imagine how loud it is when it first shuts down.
A klaxon cs8 on stareroids
must be 6000 RPM motor
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
The thing was wired wrong making the dampers close when running. Therefore, makes the thing sound like shit and spin faster.
AHHHH!!!!!!
The reason why it is high pitched is because the top intake is blocked
And clearly no air is escaping so the solenoids are stuck shut
It sounds like a 1003 in hi pitched, but not in hi lo
Not even the 2001 siren was as loud as this siren
It was so high that my I pad cracked
+Dominique Pilon HOW THE HECK???
cap
h-HOW ON EARTH DID YO IPAD CRACKED!?
0:09 it starts
The reason why it's so high pitches is because the 10 port row air intake is blocked and that causes less drag. If the 12 port row was blocked it would be even faster because no drag
It sounds like that because the dampers closed upon activation
Thats what its suppose to soundlike when some idiot wires the solenoids up with the motor starter. It sounds that high pitched because there is little to no air going through the intakes, thus causing the rotor to spin faster then normal. Solenoids are supposed to be connected to thier own timing box. (a RC6 penel I believe)
9T88
3: 2 choppers and 1 solenoid
22: 22 horn
It sounds beautiful
It doesn’t even sound like a 3t22 anymore
What
Wow very highly pitched
It has been drinking helium
sounds like its reaching the octave to E flat
What was that click at the beginning? Sounded like the dampners opening like on a Klaxon CS-8 siren before doing all clear
That click was the dampers shutting causing it to go super high pitched
Both dampers were wired to close. Making less room for air intake to come in and push air out of the chopper, making it less loud and higher pitched.
@@CentralOHSirens thanks, but I already know that because this comment is from a year ago