What settings do you use for 60 fps games? Do you only use Blur Reduction for 60fps games? I’ve only used it for 30 fps games: Blur reduction 0 and Judder reduction 10, I’ve heard it’s best to use the other way around for 60fps games, do you use it like that?
I just got an s90d and I thought that you had to be in game mode to be able to use game motion plus. You can't pick any other visual modes while in game mode, correct? I used GMP on RDR2 last night and it did make it easier to look at.
I used it for FF7 Rebirth quality mode, the 30fps didn't seem so bad with Game Motion Plus on. There was some added input lag/ghosting but for a single player action rpg I wasn't bothered much, the smoothness of the motion was well worth it
I am legitimately happy for you. You bought an amazing TV. Ya, Tizen OS sucks, but IMO that’s the TV’s only negative. Everything else is simply amazing!
Holy crap, I had no idea my TV even had this option. I just set it up with it's settings at Max and fired up Stellar Blade to try it out and holy Jesus. Basically "Quality mode" runs like "Balanced mode" (almost), "Balanced" looks like a solid 60 with no drops and "Performance" just looks the smoothest my PS5 has ever looked. Thank you!
Honestly, this is all I need vs 120hz BFI. Maintains insane brightness while making games like GTA VI double in frame rate. Great for high fidelity single player & console gaming. I’m sold.
It might be my TV that doesnt have a good implementation of this, but depending on content im actually at a point where I can't watch a video without it because it feels choppy, I have the "video frame generation" set to low and it works good on 90% of content but if I put it to max some higher detail videos suffer from some ghosting like you would see with FSR in PC games. For Game mode if VRR is on this features is off but it can be used in 60hz mode with games too, but I'll be honest haven't tested it much with games but for sure gonna do that in the next days! BTW I love your content, i learned a lot from it!
I use AFMF 2 (limited to AMD GPUs) since it works in pretty much any game, works with both exclusive full-screen and borderless, and has compatibility with hardware monitoring statistics such as RTSS (also works in HDR + adaptive sync). It was recently updated and it's IMO it's better than Lossless Scaling for a couple of reasons. Lower in latency and performance cost is lower. Lossless scaling is better slightly in interpolated frames (as it's trained on an AI) but again, the higher performance cost. It does allow you to have 2x and more frame gen though. But yeah, honestly AFMF 2 is close enough (not in all games) to natively integrated FSR frame gen (and sometimes better as devs sometimes don't do a good job with implementation) where I just default to it on since I play at 4k 240hz. Hopefully Nvidia has something similar because people are sleeping on it.
@@astrea555 Lol, you have nothing to offer but an opinion. I already said why AFMF is better, and how Lossless Scaling FG is better in but 1 regard and that's FG quality (and 2x + FG, but it's arguably worse than good). In motion, to your eyes they're about the same and yes I can use both to compare.
On Samsung TVs in the past it was easy: for 60 FPS games it was 10 Blur and 0 Judder. So you get a 120 FPS look with less artifacts. And for 30 FPS 0 Blur and 10 Judder. Make sure you use a mode with a 30 or 60 fps cap. The more stable the fps the better it will look. So look for external device settings in game mode. Also sharpness at 0 helps. Only for PC it needs sharpness 10 and Contrast 50 for true 4:4:4!
Also with the game mode of pc it needs sharpness 10 and Contrast 50, because the PC is talking to the TV fully. So if you want it like on consoles, change the icon to console. So you will get it also more accurate with AVS settings and so on. Otherwise you would need a colorimeter to create an icc profile with display cal for example. Btw. Depending on the 30 fps game sometimes a lower value than 10 works better on judder. But for 60 fps it was always good with blur 10, if it was stable. For Internet browser: search for "about flags " and force srgb colors! Chrome for example.
Don't know why my comment was deleted. But you could also change the icon to console on for pc, so you can get it more accurate. Because even with pc game mode you would need sharpness 10 and Contrast at 50 which limit your accuracy. You would need a colorimeter to create icc color profile. Fir internet browser set it to srgb in the deeper browser settings.
You're getting around 19-20ms of lag too, supposedly. A fake 120fps just doesn't look right at all though for certain titles like Dragon Ball Fighterz, Super Mario Wonder, and so much more etc. With those two I'd stick wtih 60+BFI with TINK4K BFI.
@@NintenPizza it is still very low. If you play a game where you don't need to be competitive it is good enough. It can help a lot, especially on OLER with nearly instant response time. If you do it right, it can be a benefit. I mean it is optional.
@@NintenPizza i have had good experiences with blur 10 and stable 60 fps games. The input lag is enough, if you not play competitive. The pixels are so fast, that it may feels like a LED TV with 10ms or so. And we all know that 30 fps on OLED is hard to look at. So here the judder can help a lot. Not perfect in every case, but worth a try.
i told you that you would love it is a game changer! I been screaming from the mountain tops for years for other TV makers to add this. 30 fps games use Blur 0 Judder 10. 60 fps games use Blur 10 Judder 0 Those are my ideal settings.
@@TechWithKG DONT WORK with me....when I tried in a game with 30fps....the 60fps felling DOESNT EXIST. I dont know what Im doing wrong. I have a 4070ti super
@ thank you very much for your help. I will give that a shot. I was thinking I might be using a low rate hdmi cable perhaps, although I can get 120hz 4k to operate. I just can't get to game motion plus to use the features. Hopefully your recommendations help me cross the finish line. Thank you!!!
This is something all TVs need in addition to BFI. I play a lot of Switch on my C1 but many games are locked 30 fps, any sort of panning shot suffers huge juddering, its seriously like an earth quake on screen. I use the standard preset for super smooth interpolation at 30fps but the input lag is really bad, actually unplayable for anything requiring timing. For turn based like Fire Emblem and or casual like Animal Crossing its hard to go back. If Samsung can keep it low latency its a killer feature.
@@chinogambino9375 it is low latency, it's great for those pesky 30 fps games, works almost flawlessly for 60 fps games, and you keep your HDR highlights. LG needs to get on the ball and release a feature like this in game mode 😂
Great deep dive into this feature. Maybe for another video, you could lock a game at 30 frames and use game motion plus to simulate using the feature on a console game at 30.
I think LG could easily implement this feature. It works great on the C2-C4 already, it's just simply not allowed in game mode. But nothing should stop it from working faster. It's just like the 120hz BFI thing, nothing should be stopping them they just don't do it anyway because they're out of touch.
Out of touch with gamers for sure, I can't wait to grow this channel to have the opportunity to speak with these companies and their representatives directly to help change things for the better
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Hope you cant speak to Sony first. They're sitting on the pocket aces of features haha. Crazy it's currently in the dustbin of history!
Ariel I wasn't defending LG Display's decision to remove OLED Motion Pro. Was just indicating I understood it more. After recently hearing, I think, that they're struggling with profitability. Anyway, thank you for all of your help Sir.
I watched some comparisons of game motion+ vs other TV interpolation. Apparently in terms of image quality its not the best, so it seems the reduced latency comes at a cost, but I think its worth it.
Within the same S95C, the interpolation outside of Game mode has better quality. It's totally worth it, though. Has LosslessScaling been fixed? (I forgot to change to 120Hz in the video, I'm talking about the Win update issue that broke it)
I really like this feature on 60fps games, but I think for 30 it’s just a little too I consistent for me. For certain 30fps games that are slower, like an RPG, I’ve taken it out of Game Mode and used the standard motion smoothing. Really feels like it takes a 30fps game to 60 most of the time. It’s pretty wild, but yeah, the input lag takes a major hit. I did this with Kingdom Hearts 3 since it’s just button mashing mostly, and it made its 60fps look even smoother. Pretty wild.
I dont know why my game motion plus option is always blacked out, never seen in light up either I choose connect as PC or Console. Im on stock firmware and haven't setup my Samsung account yet, maybe that's the reason why?
@@beammeupscottsp7952 don't know about that most gamers are on consoles, but it's most likely used for consoles, cuz they are stuck with crappy 30fps. I have to admit I played through whole RDR2 with it 🤷♂️
@@AnANas00-x3p gotta do some research, it's an overwhelming amount are on consoles. PlayStation 5 hits 60 fps, this feature turns it into 120. Switch games turns it close 60 fps without bfi, this is why Samsung plus qd-oled is molly whopping LG in tv sales, can't deny facts 😂
Yes Samsung and TCL are the only ones with game motion plus that I know of so far. Not sure why LG and Sony won’t implement a feature like this, it’s a game changer!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 woah, that’d be cool. Yeah I was messing the tcl qm8 a saw the feature in game mode and worked just as well as Samsung. Why aren’t the other big companies doing this, doesn’t seem hard to do!
Thing is that if you have big screen, even 60fps has judder and blurry motion. I have this in LCDs and I am sure bigger help is with OLED due to response time.
6:28 what software provides the overlay that shows the brightness histogram? Btw, these grey sticky pieces of rubber on the lower left and right edges of the TV are part of the packaging, to ensure safer transportation. If you decide to keep the TV, you can safely remove them, gently and slowly :)
My perception was that level two is better than level one by default, but you can customize both of them, so I assume they’re more just like presets? To be honest, I don’t find the black frame insertion to distracting. I am I know it’s not as good as it is on TVs from a few years ago, but depending on the game, it can offer some really cool results. I wish it was just possible to have some kind of pass-through box that could just do 120 Hz black Freeman insertion on a software level, but I understand that maybe this would overwork the TV too much?
This is how I've been using the program lossless scaling. I have my 144 Hz LCD overclocked to 180 Hz and I use X4 frame generation to make sure frame rate always equals hz and then I use backlight strobing together with that. 1200 pixels per second on the UFO test and the UFO is completely legible. 5 1/2 ms of pixel visibility time when it's just sample and hold, less with the backlight strobe. I just wish we had much brighter backlights while also being capable of strobing. 1000 nits full screen would be perfect for getting much better shorter pulses from the backlight without brightness loss.
It does work although I think the pulse width is impacted somehow. But it is so much more enjoyable to use. It makes the monitor feel like it's a native 720p in terms of motion clarity. But there are definitely artifacts.
Just picked up the S95D but I cannot get game motion plus to work. I did turn off VRR on the Xbox series X. Which doesn’t make sense why I would want to do that. Can you help?
Are you concerned about Burn in, I saw a comment saying they had to replace 2 of those 1st or 2nd generation QD-OLED panels because of burn in. in 1 year of use.
Can you help me? I have a CX and in order to this to work I need to not use PC mode HDMi. I went to Hdmi mode, block the game at 30fps vrr and fresyng off on TV but the results on PC is just not working good as ok consoles. What Am I doing wrong? I beg you....this is making me mad😢
HDMI Console Mode Picture Cinema Home (Custom), VRR Gsync Freesync off, resolution output to 60Hz (Better input lag than 30Hz) lock the FPS to 30 (half Vsync) De-Judder 10 OLED Motion Pro Medium, that's 240fps like motion with obvious downsides
More than 4x for some colors. It's absolutely incredible, I was blown away in the previous video without even releasing all the BT2020 gamut, I'll show that on a side by side comparison. I'll use BFI on the S95C to prove that some colors are more than 2x brighter using a test pattern
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Was interesting that you mentioned you didn't see new shades of red on the C1 after 500 nits. Without BFI anyway, does it then make more sense to set RTX HDR to 500 instead of 800 nits so as to stop peaks before color dilution?
I'm thinking about LG G4 77 inches or Samsung S95D I don't know what to choose LG Dolby Vision and G Sync I watch movies and play on PC I currently have an LG C1 65
For 30 fps games I use Blur Reduction 0 and Judder Reduction 10. There’s some exceptions as certain games doesn’t feel good even with game motion plus, usually those are old first person games. I’ve heard that if you want 60fps to feel better you do the other way around: Blur Reduction 10 and Judder Reduction 0. However I don’t use game motion plus for 60+ fps games as I don’t see the point, 60fps already feels good enough to me. I NEVER use LED Clear Motion,I think that technology just isn’t good because of the flickering. Maybe certain people doesn’t notice it as much but I certainly do so I never use it. Maybe you could use it in darker games like you said but why use it over regular Game Motion Plus? Game motion plus already works and is a great feature so I don’t see the point in even trying to get Clear motion to work. Right now I play through Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice and the game motion plus feels great. There’s a 60fps mode in the game but that removes a lot of the picture quality and makes it more blurry, so I play the 30fps mode with game motion plus on to get best of both worlds. It’s really such a great feature, I’m glad Samsung gives gamers a lot of options
sorry ?? what if I have Nvidia 4080 Super. and I have frame generation...... then what is ''game motion plus'' doing for me ? can I open BOTH ? should I ??
Your right it absolutely depends on the game & it's obviously not DLSS 3 quality (but that would be difficult without motion vectors). But is it almost always better than the native framerate, absolutely it is. This feature is what makes PS5 games enjoyable for me, I don't have to sit there stressing about quality vs performance modes. I'd say it makes 30fps games feel like 40fps (which is a bigger deal than it sounds) and adds that extra layer of clarity & smoothness to 60fps titles without the downsides of BFI. Seeing how well it works already makes me excited for the future. AI processing will allow Tv's to estimate motion vectors far more accurately & boost frame rates more than 2x. Trust me 30fps to 240fps interpolation with DLSS 3 quality directly on the TV is closer than you think. The AI models already exist, it's just a case of getting them to run in Realtime which seeing the leaps in AI being made will happen sooner rather than later.
@@MsMarco6 yes exactly I run all 60 fps PS5 with this on and it turns it into 120 frames with almost no downsides. Those 1 or 2 pesky 30 fps games like final fantasy 16 it turned it into more like 40 fps plus, which is way smoother than 30 fps even though it’s only like a 10 frame boost, it just plays and looks so much better.
You have to see the RTX 3080 Ti and the RTX 4090 side by side, the drawing pipeline for the RTX 4090 is a lot shorter. It will be much smoother, but we are almost there for RTX 5090 😅
I want to react to Jensen announcement of the 5090 with one of those Dubai billionaire cloths and 30k cash on top of the desk and my hands with big gold necklace. That would be so fun 😁
I have a 4090 PC and you dont need motion interpolation if you are achieving 120 fps in your TV. But playing Witcher 3 at 80 fps, I started to use Motion Interpolation. This feature is still useful if you cant get around 120 fps in any setup. For consoles, I absolutely need motion interpolation from my TV
I've made a lot of LG C1 videos specifically covering OLED Motion Pro. It basically 2.6x the motion clarity at 60, 100, and 120FPS and I can only see flickering at 60, for 100 and 120 is perfection
Does anyone know why LG remove the 120 Hertz bfi mode after 2021? Did they ever give a reason for it? They must have been concerned about something. Maybe they thought it was bad for pixel health or something?
Actually OLED Motion Pro high is protective against burnt-in, I talked about that on a video where I intentionally raised the low point of 22-Points calibration to cause constant image retention and OLED Motion Pro high was beautifully cleaning it up
They removed the feature with the justification of increasing the pixel aperture ratio for more brightness. That's a bs corporate explanation. If you ask me, they just cheaped out and removed the necessary hardware for it. The C2 had the same evo panel as the C1 and it didn't have the feature
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah I don't believe their explanation either. I don't see what pixel aperture has to do with pulsing 8ms/8ms vs 4ms/4ms. Anyway the motion interpolation can work at 4ms intervals and the A9 processor is touted as being powerful.. So, it remains a mystery. Did you ever try C1 BFI with games locked to 60 and outputting 120hz to display? We're there double images and did it bother you?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I'm speculating, but I think it was the return of Samsung into the space and their emphasis on brightness. Why spend future R&D in the face of a powerful competitor on a feature that is difficult to explain to people and, again guessing, had low adoption. That said, I absolutely hate that they got rid of it. And purposely sought out the CX and now this C1. (The latter I got used from Amazon, but which actually had zero hours on the clock upon arrival.)
They told reviewer Vincent Teoh it was so they could focus on brightness. In other words, LG Display didn't want to spend money on this feature anymore. Before discontinuing OLED Motion Pro, they had already effectively removed it at 60 Hz on the C1 versus the CX by greatly increasing persistence. I guess because people whined about the flicker. I and I think many others had been waiting for OLED Motion Pro combined with the then new 42" panel size. And the removal was a huge shock.
I think I saw someone doing something similar with their C4/G4 Forced 144hz mode and then use deblur 10 and dejudder 10. This apprently works on PC/ consoles on any game. One have to have 60fps locked which is easier on PC due to better fps anyway. One must disable gsync/freesync and ALLM to make it work. So this is like using framegen and you get very nice motion interpolation with very little input lag with very minor artifacts. I guess it will be a good feature for PS5 Pro as it will give at least 60fps without dropping any frames. If you have a pc that can do 4k120fps fps and higher, probably best to stick to that without using this method
No hate but it never compares with native frames per second. The natural motion clarity cannot be beaten by fake frames. Same thing applies with the resolution a fake 4K vs. real 4K. Not to mention the fake HDR settings vs. real HDR settings. Thanks for the upload.
VRR and Vsync ON prevents screen tearing when dropping frames below the target and eliminates stuttery motion when panning the camera (if the FPS is high enough)
To be fair G2 and G3 looked dim with dull colors in game mode which was a big complaint. They have since fixed that on G4 i understand, but ofcourse qdoled colors will still look richer by default with colors anyways, but G4 will have the edge on overall sharpness/shadow detail and brightness in game mode overall
@@DarkLionn83 yea man i want to upgrade my lg c9 to a G4 but its so expensive still lol almost as much as sony a95L. While the samsung s90d is 1k less, tough decision 😂 i already own an older qdoled for my other tv, with my s95b, so i want to stay LG to replace the c9 to atleast still have one tv with dolby vision and DTS audio, better processing for lower res content…which samsung doesnt have ofcourse…will wait for further G4 price drop i guess for now lol
Really excited for this video! Gonna be nice to see what you think comparing this to Trumotion. The day LG makes this mode for C4 and G4 is a very happy day indeed. They have promised 5 years of new WebOS revisions and updates from the newer tvs in the future 5 years forward, so if 144hz BFI and Game Motion Plus comes as a feature this years line-up should get those features. Improvements to upscaling is already promised and gets updated every month, so its gonna be exciting to see how Samsung handles it on there panels and how good it is on S95C. The fluidity wasn’t as good on S90C as on my LG C4, looked a little less perfect in motion but nothing that ruined the experience, just not as good as LG TruMotion in terms of added frames and frame pacing fluidity (frame-times) looked more stable I guess atleast for my eyes but they might have patched and fixed it on Samsung so this video is exciting. I would love if they would add immense competition and strike at LG so that LG goes crazy and shoots back with all they have.
I’ve just tried this out on my S95D with hogwarts legacy via series X and wow! Setting the game to 60hz performance mode with level 2 looks smoother and better than running the game in VRR high frame rate mode. The input lag is negligible too. This is going to be such a great future for when GTA6 comes out.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648i‘m also doing the same with my ps5 pro and the last of us 2 . Even though the game runs in performance mode between 70-90 fps y prefer the feeling and smoothness from the Game Motion Plus option . The same counts for Demons Souls and HFW.
Yes, I'll make a movie related video about the S95C, S95C vs C1, and especially when I try the 3d glasses prototype sample I received to get 3d on the C1 which could be tunned for the S95C too
I've never even seen the DV logo pop on my C1, there are no DV games on PC and I just use it for PC gaming. On the other hand HDR10+ is a killer feature for PC gaming. I'll cover that soon
I'm surprised you didn't mention the "auto HDR remastering" feature. It could have been interesting to create a video comparing Samsung's auto HDR remastering VS native HDR VS Reshade
@@plasmatvforgaming9648Write on Google "What is Auto HDR Remastering feature in Neo QLED TV?" (And click on the second link) But that's weird, I thought it was available on all the latest Samsung TVs. In the end, I have the impression that it's only on the neo QLED, that doesn't make any sense The feature only appears on the product page of QN90C, QN95C, QN90D, QN95D This is a feature that excites me as much as game motion plus, and it's available in game mode The problem is that Samsung's mini LEDs TVs have become less efficient than those from TCL (dimming zone + brightness), TCL holds exclusive rights to the latest generation of CSOT panels. Samsung is no longer making any effort about miniled technology and the auto hdr remastering feature is not available on their oled tvs, it's really a waste
The LG C1/G1 OLED Motion Pro high at 120fps/Hz has 3.2 milliseconds of persistence equal to 3 pixels of motion blur when moving at 1000 pixels per second, that's like 312fps. A CRT can have 1ms of persistence at just 60fps which like 1000 fps
Hey man, would you use GMP instead of VRR on games that can run 70-90 fps with VRR? Example: The last of us. I feel GMP ist smoother but I’m afraid that I might be losing some picture quality . 😕
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks sir, I feel that all games runs better with GMP even in my PS5 Pro . I was just between VRR and GMP because I don’t want to lose any picture quality.
If I want it for movies which one is better in motion samsung oled or lg oled, exemple i wanna watch anime with very smooth motion, I wondering which ones should I choose?(like a s90c or s90d vs c3 or c4)
The animation of animes are sub 24fps, there's no way to have fluidity on those. It's like Cuphead, a game with low fps animations that looks jarring even at high fps just because the animations don't scale well, otherwise it would look speed up
I haven't tried the interpolation for movies on the S95C yet but I'd get a C4 for movies just because most video content doesn't have those HDR colors (unless you forced them with TV settings) and non MLA WRGB has perfect blacks and no raised with light like QDOLED. I'll cover that on another video
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 But overall the s90c has better colors then c3, i saw some compere on yt and looks better, but in real life i dont know how big that difference
LSFG dosen't work in exclusive fullscreen or when your hz matches your FPS, and I saw you were at 60hz instead of 120hz. But with that said, the latest W11 update changed how windows captures frames so we have to write parts of the program now unfortunately thanks to Microsoft, so it may be in a glitchy state for some people until then. Good video!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I will say though it's probably more fair to compare LSFG in performance mode vs the TV since the TV's interpolation is in its performance mode too for reduced latency at the expense of image quality. It works the same way with LSFG, except better performance is also an added variable
Yup this is what puts samsung tv's in front of LG when it comes to gaming on consoles. Turns any 60 fps into 120 with minimal lag and minimal artifacts while keeping HDR highlights, there was only one 30 fps game I've played on ps5 which was final finatasy 16 because performance mode was broken. Used game motion plus and it basically played more smooth instead of the native 30 fps, felt more like 40 fps plus. With this feature you keep your hdr highlights, bfi ruins that unfortunately. TCL has game motion plus as well, LG and Sony need to get on the ball and release a feature like this. This is why samsung outsells LG like crazy 😂
I am very appreciate for your review. How about QD OLED's raised blacks around bright hilight? I am very curious about that. I want to get QD OLED. But raised blacks around bright hilight would be a deal breaker for me. So I am waiting for your experience about that😁
I'll cover that issue. It's a big problem imo. Under any lighting conditions you loose the perfect blacks, including the light produced by the TV itself, which is very bright
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Oh my gosh, that's exactly what I was worried about. I was worried that even in a completely dark room, the light from the bright highlights on the TV would reflect off the walls of the room, and that the reflected light would then reach the blacks on the TV and lift the blacks. You mean this is true, right? 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 Now that I think about it, there are some W OLED products that also have raised blacks issues, like the G3. If so, could it be that the G3, like the QD OLEDs, also has raised blacks due to light from the TV? 😢😢😢😢 Perfect blacks are OLED's very precious feature. 😢😢
Can you test if this works at other refresh rates as well? If you send the TV a 50Hz signal for example. Or maybe even 72Hz, because the max refresh of the S95C is 144Hz right
It should work at 50, I'll try it. At 72 it won't work because there's no 72Hz resolution listed and due to the one connect box you can't change or create any custom resolution, Nvidia scaling and DLDSR don't work
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ah that sucks. so you're stuck with the given options I guess? does a 1440p 60hz option exist for you? because it didn't for rtings
I'd much rather have frame interpolation than BFI(fancy word for strobing), it's pretty much going back before flicker-free LCDs(and to CRTs and maybe Plasma) and going very low frequency(whatever the refresh rate is it sounds like) and full on modulation. I recommend people take a look at the PWM_sensitive subreddit for more information on why you should avoid PWM-like displays/features. I personally think it is responsible for how bad my myopia is.
Brute force sample and hold kHz refresh rate isn't the goal, we need that for HDR and because some people are sensitive to Flickering. The problem is that we're not there yet and Flickering is great for those who can tolerate it
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 You may be able to tolerate PWM-like effects or not even realize you are feeling/being affected, doesn't mean there isn't a problem, I'm just merely here to inform those who may not know about it and may care, i can't force anyone who doesn't to care about it, merely an conflict in interests/priorities.
Motion clarity para mi es una de las cosas mas importantes de cualquier tv o monitor además del contraste por su puesto, por eso compré el asus qdoled de 240hz y sigo con la C1 que tiene 120hz BFI lo que equivale a 312fps. La pena es la reducción de brillo. Pero para eso ya tengo el monitor que no pierde brillo a 240hz/fps y la homogeneidad del color es superior, los blancos son superiores para mi gusto también. La cuestión es de que te sirve una Tv con un HDR superior, con mas brillo , etc... pero que tiene más desenfoque cuando juegas y pierdes esos matices por desenfoque. Tendría que verla a 144hz y 144fps a ver que tal es esa s95C para dar una opinión más objetiva. Saludos bro!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 El problema para mucha gente será el factor limitante en base a la potencia del setup, ya que mantener 144fps en 4k no es tarea fácil. Yo ya tengo reservada en una tienda de unos amigos la 5090 cuando salga, me guardarán una. Con la 4090 voy bien pero necesito algo de punch en según que juegos. Me gustaría ser tu vecino para poder enseñarte mi asus qdoled de 240hz jugando a 240fps a oscuras en mi setup. La experiencia te aseguro que es amazing compadre. En cualquier caso disfruta esa TV , por el precio que has pagado es un big deal.
Hey Ariel, this only works on 60hz refresh rate on PC?So you set resolution to 60hz in Nvidia control panel? If so then Game motion plus it can only display 60 fps on 60hz right?
60Hz output from the console or PC, the HDMI has to be in Console Mode, Game Mode on. The TV will give you 120fps out of 60 from the content. Even when the source is 60Hz the TV is refreshing at 120Hz
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so this is confirmed it doesn't interpolate up to to 144hz right? I thought this was the case, the fact that 144hz also only runs in PC mode is the other give away I guess. Thanks for the in depth analysis. Also because it doesn't work in PC mode means it also can't work with the full 4:4:4 color space (only 4:2:2 i think), unlike lossless scaling which doesn't have that restriction. Agree that it's still a great feature OOTB though.
I agree that 120 fps on the oleds like the c1 looks blurry, but it’s good enough for me. 60 fps though looks like crap. That’s why I don’t think lg oleds are good for consol gaming.
I never like these TV motion interpolation features or nvidia frame gen/amd frame gen. DLSS performance is good enough for me to get decent frames on a 3080 @ 4k until I grab a 5080 :)
HDMI Console Mode Picture Cinema Home (Custom), VRR Gsync Freesync off, resolution output to 60Hz (Better input lag than 30Hz) lock the FPS to 30 (half Vsync) De-Judder 10 OLED Motion Pro Medium, that's 240fps like motion with obvious downsides
Best solution is still: upgrade your GPU/CPU and enjoy even better motion and frames when using FG or lossless or without. But of course if you cant afford it, this could be usable. I sold my CX and got the LG G4 because I dont need BFI 120 anymore as I now have 144hz TV and the RTX4090 gives many frames in many games so the motion is very good anyway above 120hz/120fps and then one can apply lossless scaling or FG if supported. So for me this Samsung feasture is not needed. But I understand not everyone can afford this. So this could be a nice solution.
I want to react to Jensen announcement of the 5090 with one of those Dubai billionaire cloths and 30k cash on top of the desk and my hands with big gold necklace. That would be so 😁
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Hehe, yes Nvidia is greedy. But thats also due to low competition. But if people stopped buying GPUs for a while and are fed with cheaper good enough graphics, nvidia prices may go down some time in the future. I will not be looking at RTX 5000 series at all...
I dont like FG so much, even with BaseFramerate at 60, it produces Artifacts and Ghosting/Blur little like TAA. If the Gpu could do BFI instead of FG that would be cool 😁
@@TheEdmaster87 yes but you have to realize you're in the minority. Even if people have the money they aren't going to invest into something like that. Most are casual gamers, 1000 dollar tv plus a console for less than 500 bucks and you're already getting 120 frames. It's good enough for most consumers, you're in like the 2 percent who takes gaming that serious.
I don't find it interesting on Samsung TVs, it's known to cause artifacts. Sony and LG tvs implement motion features in much better ways, if you ask me.
Please tell LG and Sony to release a feature like this in game mode, shoot even TCL has this feature. Minimal lag and you keep hdr highlights. It's a big reason why samsung is molly whopping LG in sales and plus qd-oled 😂
Once the channel grows to the point where these companies' representatives would listen, I'll definitely try to steer things in our direction as gamers
I'm sick of the handicap things we are doing because fps has been bad. Kinda sad that Playstation is doing a psr before xbox. Xbox spoken about fsr before Playstation, and here we are without it and we aren't getting a better consol either. Gaming today, if you aren't on a $5000 pc, you are lagging, skipping frames 30 ms frame times. Just all over the place
i have a philips 43" ips with p5 engine, and that processing is amazing 30fps looks and feels like 60 fps and it's better then my sony 65" 89j Va which is 120 hz, but picture engine is rubbish, great for movies, but if the game is 30 fps I don't play it... Oled is way better :)
Funny I just bought the S90C last week and it's ridiculously better than my old LG CX on stock settings. I've been lucky to get a gen2 panel on my 55 inch and I went ahead and took the risk already and accessed the service menu to change the model type to the s95c and do the anapeak mod, pushing it all the way to 1023 and also did a couple of other modifications to remove abl and increase base luminance as recommended on a forum post I found. It is now insanely bright, it has the amazing benefits of incredibly vibrant colors and very good contrast with much better near black than the CX AND a full 100% brightness that is better than my old IPS LCD. It's mind boggling, I just watched a DBZ episode and the screen didn't dim almost at all it looked like a high end LCD in brightness. When it comes to watching HDR movies the scene looks much more natural in daytime scenes with lights sources and shimmering objects looking true to life. Absolutely love this upgrade I made by selling my old CX for 450 and buying this TV new for 940 online!
@@beammeupscottsp7952 Yes it may be overall. However, for my tastes, I really wish they would add a polarizer. I think it might have even been Samsung that pioneered the mirror black look back in the day. And I wish they would offer that on their OLEDs. And of course, I desperately wish Samsung and/or LG would offer an OLED Motion Pro equivalent. At this point, it's like oh that OLED picture looks awesome. Wow, that one looks even more awesome! And yet for motion clarity you have to try to find a model from 2020/2021. I would at least think this rolling scan motion clarity circuit would reappear in OLED computer monitors. After all, their LCD competition features such motion clarity enabling hardware.
This feature significantly increases input lag + artefacts. Its only cool for content, where you doesn't need low input lag. For games there is technology nvidia frame generator which working on very powerfull gpu and it's not even perfect. but input lag almost the same. with tv we have technologe which not works with game engine directly but only with a signal, and this technology working on weak samsung SoC. And result will be not even close to dlss framegen with 20-25ms input lag. So my opinion and my personal case - this tecnhology only useful for sport content. Instead of buying expensive tv it’s better to buy ps5 pro where you will never see 30 fps. Thanks for video although
Silent hill 2 just said they'll have a 30 fps graphics mode for the game on PS5 Pro. Will this feature work to boost those frames if they're locked at 30 fps?
Im confused why are you using lsfg at 60hz? Shouldnt it be at 120hz with the game capped at 60?
You're right! I missed that! I'm going to pin this comment
I think you are the first one to actually talk about this feature in depth. Thanks a lot, this makes buying a TV much easier.
FOMO did a great video today about the topic. I will cover it more deeply once I spend more time with the TV
Great to see you so happy and excited..
taking in a big breath at the beginning of your videos is your signature. it's great and you should make a montage of it sometime :)
😁
I used it for my PS3. And it's good. Works wonderful on my S95b.
Your channel is amazing buddy!!!
Game Motion Plus on fixed 60fps is brillant. So clean motion for example Ghost of Tsushima. It is not only for 30 fps. It improves Motion Blur on 60
I think it will have more artefacts at 30fps because objects travel greater distance on screen between frames so it has to make bigger guesses
What settings do you use for 60 fps games? Do you only use Blur Reduction for 60fps games?
I’ve only used it for 30 fps games: Blur reduction 0 and Judder reduction 10, I’ve heard it’s best to use the other way around for 60fps games, do you use it like that?
It was the first video where I saw someone correctly explaining this Samsung technology. Congratulations on the content!
If u play in visuals mode on ps5 or xbox and use this, it is GLORIOUS
I just got an s90d and I thought that you had to be in game mode to be able to use game motion plus. You can't pick any other visual modes while in game mode, correct? I used GMP on RDR2 last night and it did make it easier to look at.
@@snopro2375 I think he means quality mode on the game itself so u get the best visuals and turn game motion plus on
Thanks for bring this to my attention, I was lost on how to properly utilize this feature!
HDMI Console, Picture Game Mode, Console or PC output to 60Hz
I used it for FF7 Rebirth quality mode, the 30fps didn't seem so bad with Game Motion Plus on. There was some added input lag/ghosting but for a single player action rpg I wasn't bothered much, the smoothness of the motion was well worth it
Give a sensation of 60 fps?
you can tell the video is going to be good by the first breath he makes
Lol, that laugh and breathing in the intro is so funny 🤣
I am legitimately happy for you. You bought an amazing TV. Ya, Tizen OS sucks, but IMO that’s the TV’s only negative. Everything else is simply amazing!
Holy crap, I had no idea my TV even had this option. I just set it up with it's settings at Max and fired up Stellar Blade to try it out and holy Jesus. Basically "Quality mode" runs like "Balanced mode" (almost), "Balanced" looks like a solid 60 with no drops and "Performance" just looks the smoothest my PS5 has ever looked. Thank you!
That's awesome!
Honestly, this is all I need vs 120hz BFI. Maintains insane brightness while making games like GTA VI double in frame rate. Great for high fidelity single player & console gaming. I’m sold.
@@CarnivoryHODL yeah this TV is literally made for console gaming, free frames with minimal lag and no hit to HDR brightness, let's goooo 😂
It might be my TV that doesnt have a good implementation of this, but depending on content im actually at a point where I can't watch a video without it because it feels choppy, I have the "video frame generation" set to low and it works good on 90% of content but if I put it to max some higher detail videos suffer from some ghosting like you would see with FSR in PC games. For Game mode if VRR is on this features is off but it can be used in 60hz mode with games too, but I'll be honest haven't tested it much with games but for sure gonna do that in the next days!
BTW I love your content, i learned a lot from it!
It's definitely something worth trying. Thanks!
Got my eye on that s90d tbh with you man. I love my 42' lgc2 but Jesus christ that s90d is calling me😂
I love mine so far!
Same bro! S90d is going to be next tv, game motion plus with console is a game changer!
Got an S90C coming from LG CX and it's an insane upgrade, especially after doing the peak brightness mod
@@androsforever500 damnnnn post a vid brah
Just be careful with the panel lottery. You could even get stuck with a WOLED which wouldn't be any better than your c2
I use AFMF 2 (limited to AMD GPUs) since it works in pretty much any game, works with both exclusive full-screen and borderless, and has compatibility with hardware monitoring statistics such as RTSS (also works in HDR + adaptive sync). It was recently updated and it's IMO it's better than Lossless Scaling for a couple of reasons. Lower in latency and performance cost is lower. Lossless scaling is better slightly in interpolated frames (as it's trained on an AI) but again, the higher performance cost. It does allow you to have 2x and more frame gen though.
But yeah, honestly AFMF 2 is close enough (not in all games) to natively integrated FSR frame gen (and sometimes better as devs sometimes don't do a good job with implementation) where I just default to it on since I play at 4k 240hz. Hopefully Nvidia has something similar because people are sleeping on it.
Interesting, thanks for sharing 👍
LSFG is way better than AFMF
Yeah, chances are Nvidia keeping the feature for the RTX 5000 release, let's hope not exclusive...
@@astrea555 Lol, you have nothing to offer but an opinion. I already said why AFMF is better, and how Lossless Scaling FG is better in but 1 regard and that's FG quality (and 2x + FG, but it's arguably worse than good). In motion, to your eyes they're about the same and yes I can use both to compare.
@@deus_nsf Hope not, but knowing Nvidia then I'm not holding my breath.
On Samsung TVs in the past it was easy: for 60 FPS games it was 10 Blur and 0 Judder. So you get a 120 FPS look with less artifacts. And for 30 FPS 0 Blur and 10 Judder. Make sure you use a mode with a 30 or 60 fps cap. The more stable the fps the better it will look. So look for external device settings in game mode. Also sharpness at 0 helps. Only for PC it needs sharpness 10 and Contrast 50 for true 4:4:4!
Also with the game mode of pc it needs sharpness 10 and Contrast 50, because the PC is talking to the TV fully. So if you want it like on consoles, change the icon to console. So you will get it also more accurate with AVS settings and so on. Otherwise you would need a colorimeter to create an icc profile with display cal for example.
Btw. Depending on the 30 fps game sometimes a lower value than 10 works better on judder. But for 60 fps it was always good with blur 10, if it was stable.
For Internet browser: search for "about flags " and force srgb colors! Chrome for example.
Don't know why my comment was deleted. But you could also change the icon to console on for pc, so you can get it more accurate. Because even with pc game mode you would need sharpness 10 and Contrast at 50 which limit your accuracy. You would need a colorimeter to create icc color profile. Fir internet browser set it to srgb in the deeper browser settings.
You're getting around 19-20ms of lag too, supposedly. A fake 120fps just doesn't look right at all though for certain titles like Dragon Ball Fighterz, Super Mario Wonder, and so much more etc. With those two I'd stick wtih 60+BFI with TINK4K BFI.
@@NintenPizza it is still very low. If you play a game where you don't need to be competitive it is good enough. It can help a lot, especially on OLER with nearly instant response time. If you do it right, it can be a benefit. I mean it is optional.
@@NintenPizza i have had good experiences with blur 10 and stable 60 fps games. The input lag is enough, if you not play competitive. The pixels are so fast, that it may feels like a LED TV with 10ms or so. And we all know that 30 fps on OLED is hard to look at. So here the judder can help a lot. Not perfect in every case, but worth a try.
Would like to see brightness/color of C1 and S96C side by side to see how big of difference with bfi on.
I'll definitely do that
i told you that you would love it is a game changer! I been screaming from the mountain tops for years for other TV makers to add this. 30 fps games use Blur 0 Judder 10. 60 fps games use Blur 10 Judder 0 Those are my ideal settings.
It's a big deal, and I'm glad you've been asking for it. I'll do the same if I ever have a chance to speak with these companies.
What's the Level 1 doing? I still haven't figured that out
@@TechWithKG DONT WORK with me....when I tried in a game with 30fps....the 60fps felling DOESNT EXIST. I dont know what Im doing wrong. I have a 4070ti super
I cannot get game motion plus to activate, I’m using a pc but I should be able to enable it manually
HDMI Console Mode, Game Mode, VRR off, resolution set to 60Hz
@ thank you very much for your help. I will give that a shot. I was thinking I might be using a low rate hdmi cable perhaps, although I can get 120hz 4k to operate. I just can't get to game motion plus to use the features. Hopefully your recommendations help me cross the finish line. Thank you!!!
This is something all TVs need in addition to BFI. I play a lot of Switch on my C1 but many games are locked 30 fps, any sort of panning shot suffers huge juddering, its seriously like an earth quake on screen. I use the standard preset for super smooth interpolation at 30fps but the input lag is really bad, actually unplayable for anything requiring timing. For turn based like Fire Emblem and or casual like Animal Crossing its hard to go back. If Samsung can keep it low latency its a killer feature.
De-Judder 10 OLED Motion Pro Medium oj the C1 can make 30fps look like 240 but the imput lag is high and the artifacts are very noticeable
@@chinogambino9375 it is low latency, it's great for those pesky 30 fps games, works almost flawlessly for 60 fps games, and you keep your HDR highlights. LG needs to get on the ball and release a feature like this in game mode 😂
Great deep dive into this feature. Maybe for another video, you could lock a game at 30 frames and use game motion plus to simulate using the feature on a console game at 30.
Yes. I'll cover the feature again once I spend more time with it and figure out all the combinations
I think LG could easily implement this feature. It works great on the C2-C4 already, it's just simply not allowed in game mode. But nothing should stop it from working faster. It's just like the 120hz BFI thing, nothing should be stopping them they just don't do it anyway because they're out of touch.
Out of touch with gamers for sure, I can't wait to grow this channel to have the opportunity to speak with these companies and their representatives directly to help change things for the better
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Hope you cant speak to Sony first. They're sitting on the pocket aces of features haha. Crazy it's currently in the dustbin of history!
Ariel I wasn't defending LG Display's decision to remove OLED Motion Pro. Was just indicating I understood it more. After recently hearing, I think, that they're struggling with profitability. Anyway, thank you for all of your help Sir.
@@RandomUnassignedYTHandle yes Samsung is Molly whopping LG in sales right now and especially after Samsung released their own oled.
I watched some comparisons of game motion+ vs other TV interpolation. Apparently in terms of image quality its not the best, so it seems the reduced latency comes at a cost, but I think its worth it.
Within the same S95C, the interpolation outside of Game mode has better quality. It's totally worth it, though. Has LosslessScaling been fixed? (I forgot to change to 120Hz in the video, I'm talking about the Win update issue that broke it)
I really like this feature on 60fps games, but I think for 30 it’s just a little too I consistent for me. For certain 30fps games that are slower, like an RPG, I’ve taken it out of Game Mode and used the standard motion smoothing. Really feels like it takes a 30fps game to 60 most of the time. It’s pretty wild, but yeah, the input lag takes a major hit. I did this with Kingdom Hearts 3 since it’s just button mashing mostly, and it made its 60fps look even smoother. Pretty wild.
I dont know why my game motion plus option is always blacked out, never seen in light up either I choose connect as PC or Console. Im on stock firmware and haven't setup my Samsung account yet, maybe that's the reason why?
HDMI Console Mode VRR OFF resolution set to 60Hz
I tried to turn off Gsync and now its work with 60 hz, so basically this will make 60hz game look smooth like 120 fps right
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 is it possible to use CRU app to force 21:9 ratio on screen? In console mode it grayout the aspect ratio option
It's good enough and it's Free, TV's had it for years.
Exactly most gamers have consoles and this feature works and you keep your HDR highlights without using bfi 😂
@@beammeupscottsp7952 don't know about that most gamers are on consoles, but it's most likely used for consoles, cuz they are stuck with crappy 30fps.
I have to admit I played through whole RDR2 with it 🤷♂️
@@AnANas00-x3p gotta do some research, it's an overwhelming amount are on consoles. PlayStation 5 hits 60 fps, this feature turns it into 120. Switch games turns it close 60 fps without bfi, this is why Samsung plus qd-oled is molly whopping LG in tv sales, can't deny facts 😂
@@AnANas00-x3pI don’t know how console people even beat black wukong with low frame rates. I switched to my monitor for 200 fps on a couple bosses.
Yes Samsung and TCL are the only ones with game motion plus that I know of so far. Not sure why LG and Sony won’t implement a feature like this, it’s a game changer!
Really, I didn't know TCL had it. Then it might be worth waiting for those glassless 3d OLEDs, especially the 8k one that's injeck printed
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 woah, that’d be cool. Yeah I was messing the tcl qm8 a saw the feature in game mode and worked just as well as Samsung. Why aren’t the other big companies doing this, doesn’t seem hard to do!
What is it called on the TCL? Certainly not 'game motion plus'
@@N-e.o nah it's just a feature in its motion settings, available in game mode.
Thing is that if you have big screen, even 60fps has judder and blurry motion. I have this in LCDs and I am sure bigger help is with OLED due to response time.
The bigger the screen, depending on how close you sit, pixels per degree of view could be a lot higher, and that definitely matters for motion.
A phone a 60 looks better in motion than on a big TV
6:28 what software provides the overlay that shows the brightness histogram?
Btw, these grey sticky pieces of rubber on the lower left and right edges of the TV are part of the packaging, to ensure safer transportation. If you decide to keep the TV, you can safely remove them, gently and slowly :)
Reshade HDR shaders by Lilium
Thanks 👍
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thanks! I'll be catching up with your earlier videos on that topic :)
My perception was that level two is better than level one by default, but you can customize both of them, so I assume they’re more just like presets? To be honest, I don’t find the black frame insertion to distracting. I am I know it’s not as good as it is on TVs from a few years ago, but depending on the game, it can offer some really cool results. I wish it was just possible to have some kind of pass-through box that could just do 120 Hz black Freeman insertion on a software level, but I understand that maybe this would overwork the TV too much?
120bfi isn't possible because hardware is necessary for it.
I thought level.1 and 2 were just presets, but if that's the case, they don't work well
This is how I've been using the program lossless scaling.
I have my 144 Hz LCD overclocked to 180 Hz and I use X4 frame generation to make sure frame rate always equals hz and then I use backlight strobing together with that.
1200 pixels per second on the UFO test and the UFO is completely legible. 5 1/2 ms of pixel visibility time when it's just sample and hold, less with the backlight strobe.
I just wish we had much brighter backlights while also being capable of strobing.
1000 nits full screen would be perfect for getting much better shorter pulses from the backlight without brightness loss.
Nice! I'm surprised that the strobing work with the 180Hz OC
It does work although I think the pulse width is impacted somehow.
But it is so much more enjoyable to use.
It makes the monitor feel like it's a native 720p in terms of motion clarity. But there are definitely artifacts.
Just picked up the S95D but I cannot get game motion plus to work. I did turn off VRR on the Xbox series X. Which doesn’t make sense why I would want to do that. Can you help?
HDMI Console Mode Game Mode, Xbox set to 60Hz output, VRR off ALLM off
Are you concerned about Burn in, I saw a comment saying they had to replace 2 of those 1st or 2nd generation QD-OLED panels because of burn in. in 1 year of use.
I'm not, I'll even do the 2000 nits mod
I had s95b with mods(2years) and now s90d zero problems
Why is game genre locked at standard on the S95C and S90C ?
Because HDR Basic, change it to Advance if you want to try those settings.
I prefer Basic to use Static (HGIG)
Hey man !Have you figured out the best settings for the game motion plus? thanks
Next video is my recommendation for Clear motion
Can you help me? I have a CX and in order to this to work I need to not use PC mode HDMi.
I went to Hdmi mode, block the game at 30fps vrr and fresyng off on TV but the results on PC is just not working good as ok consoles. What Am I doing wrong? I beg you....this is making me mad😢
HDMI Console Mode Picture Cinema Home (Custom), VRR Gsync Freesync off, resolution output to 60Hz (Better input lag than 30Hz) lock the FPS to 30 (half Vsync) De-Judder 10 OLED Motion Pro Medium, that's 240fps like motion with obvious downsides
How big of a difference do you feel with the color vibrancy on the Samsung compared to your old LG?
More than 4x for some colors. It's absolutely incredible, I was blown away in the previous video without even releasing all the BT2020 gamut, I'll show that on a side by side comparison. I'll use BFI on the S95C to prove that some colors are more than 2x brighter using a test pattern
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Was interesting that you mentioned you didn't see new shades of red on the C1 after 500 nits. Without BFI anyway, does it then make more sense to set RTX HDR to 500 instead of 800 nits so as to stop peaks before color dilution?
I'm thinking about LG G4 77 inches or Samsung S95D I don't know what to choose LG Dolby Vision and G Sync I watch movies and play on PC I currently have an LG C1 65
S95D has a mat finish. I would not recommend that at all. Try S90D
Makes Wukong playable for me
I shared Hybred mod for Wukong, it's amazing
For 30 fps games I use Blur Reduction 0 and Judder Reduction 10. There’s some exceptions as certain games doesn’t feel good even with game motion plus, usually those are old first person games.
I’ve heard that if you want 60fps to feel better you do the other way around: Blur Reduction 10 and Judder Reduction 0. However I don’t use game motion plus for 60+ fps games as I don’t see the point, 60fps already feels good enough to me.
I NEVER use LED Clear Motion,I think that technology just isn’t good because of the flickering. Maybe certain people doesn’t notice it as much but I certainly do so I never use it. Maybe you could use it in darker games like you said but why use it over regular Game Motion Plus? Game motion plus already works and is a great feature so I don’t see the point in even trying to get Clear motion to work.
Right now I play through Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice and the game motion plus feels great. There’s a 60fps mode in the game but that removes a lot of the picture quality and makes it more blurry, so I play the 30fps mode with game motion plus on to get best of both worlds. It’s really such a great feature, I’m glad Samsung gives gamers a lot of options
Thanks for sharing 👍
the laughter at the beginning lmao
😁
@@dinoh5737He is Cuban
Do you use HGIG here or dynamic tone mapping? Whats the equivalent to LG HDR settings?
sorry ?? what if I have Nvidia 4080 Super. and I have frame generation...... then what is ''game motion plus'' doing for me ? can I open BOTH ? should I ??
Well, you can push RT and graphics in general, lock to 60fps and enjoy
There is service menu setting vrr/framerate that's originally 4 i set it to 10 that seams to improve fbs but i cant test it
What's fbs?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 overall something service menu mrt option framerate/vrr setting
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 service menu mrt hdmi 1 or 2 then framerate/vrr setting
Your right it absolutely depends on the game & it's obviously not DLSS 3 quality (but that would be difficult without motion vectors).
But is it almost always better than the native framerate, absolutely it is.
This feature is what makes PS5 games enjoyable for me, I don't have to sit there stressing about quality vs performance modes.
I'd say it makes 30fps games feel like 40fps (which is a bigger deal than it sounds) and adds that extra layer of clarity & smoothness to 60fps titles without the downsides of BFI.
Seeing how well it works already makes me excited for the future. AI processing will allow Tv's to estimate motion vectors far more accurately & boost frame rates more than 2x.
Trust me 30fps to 240fps interpolation with DLSS 3 quality directly on the TV is closer than you think. The AI models already exist, it's just a case of getting them to run in Realtime which seeing the leaps in AI being made will happen sooner rather than later.
@@MsMarco6 yes exactly I run all 60 fps PS5 with this on and it turns it into 120 frames with almost no downsides. Those 1 or 2 pesky 30 fps games like final fantasy 16 it turned it into more like 40 fps plus, which is way smoother than 30 fps even though it’s only like a 10 frame boost, it just plays and looks so much better.
You have to see the RTX 3080 Ti and the RTX 4090 side by side, the drawing pipeline for the RTX 4090 is a lot shorter.
It will be much smoother, but we are almost there for RTX 5090 😅
I want to react to Jensen announcement of the 5090 with one of those Dubai billionaire cloths and 30k cash on top of the desk and my hands with big gold necklace. That would be so fun 😁
yeah rtx 5090 is very soon. not worth buying a 4090 right now at all considering a few month max and 5090 will be out
I have a 4090 PC and you dont need motion interpolation if you are achieving 120 fps in your TV.
But playing Witcher 3 at 80 fps, I started to use Motion Interpolation. This feature is still useful if you cant get around 120 fps in any setup. For consoles, I absolutely need motion interpolation from my TV
Is there a LG version of this video?
I've made a lot of LG C1 videos specifically covering OLED Motion Pro. It basically 2.6x the motion clarity at 60, 100, and 120FPS and I can only see flickering at 60, for 100 and 120 is perfection
At me this option is disabled. I use the 90C on 144 Hz. Maybe i have to set the TV to 60 Hz in windows?
Set HDMI to Console, Game Mode and 60Hz output, VRR off
Does anyone know why LG remove the 120 Hertz bfi mode after 2021? Did they ever give a reason for it? They must have been concerned about something. Maybe they thought it was bad for pixel health or something?
Actually OLED Motion Pro high is protective against burnt-in, I talked about that on a video where I intentionally raised the low point of 22-Points calibration to cause constant image retention and OLED Motion Pro high was beautifully cleaning it up
They removed the feature with the justification of increasing the pixel aperture ratio for more brightness. That's a bs corporate explanation. If you ask me, they just cheaped out and removed the necessary hardware for it. The C2 had the same evo panel as the C1 and it didn't have the feature
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
Yeah I don't believe their explanation either. I don't see what pixel aperture has to do with pulsing 8ms/8ms vs 4ms/4ms. Anyway the motion interpolation can work at 4ms intervals and the A9 processor is touted as being powerful.. So, it remains a mystery.
Did you ever try C1 BFI with games locked to 60 and outputting 120hz to display? We're there double images and did it bother you?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I'm speculating, but I think it was the return of Samsung into the space and their emphasis on brightness. Why spend future R&D in the face of a powerful competitor on a feature that is difficult to explain to people and, again guessing, had low adoption. That said, I absolutely hate that they got rid of it. And purposely sought out the CX and now this C1. (The latter I got used from Amazon, but which actually had zero hours on the clock upon arrival.)
They told reviewer Vincent Teoh it was so they could focus on brightness. In other words, LG Display didn't want to spend money on this feature anymore. Before discontinuing OLED Motion Pro, they had already effectively removed it at 60 Hz on the C1 versus the CX by greatly increasing persistence. I guess because people whined about the flicker. I and I think many others had been waiting for OLED Motion Pro combined with the then new 42" panel size. And the removal was a huge shock.
Ive turned game mode off and its so much better. Everythings alot brighter and you can see everythinv
There's no difference in brightness with Game Mode you get all of it. Check the settings
@ theres a huge diff. I just did it. Game mode is very dull. Anddynamic picture mode is very bright
Given the same settings, the difference you see is on the settings
I think I saw someone doing something similar with their C4/G4 Forced 144hz mode and then use deblur 10 and dejudder 10. This apprently works on PC/ consoles on any game.
One have to have 60fps locked which is easier on PC due to better fps anyway. One must disable gsync/freesync and ALLM to make it work.
So this is like using framegen and you get very nice motion interpolation with very little input lag with very minor artifacts. I guess it will be a good feature for PS5 Pro as it will give at least 60fps without dropping any frames. If you have a pc that can do 4k120fps fps and higher, probably best to stick to that without using this method
LG interpolation is great, they just need to add a low latency option like Samsung
Hey, i've bought the S90D and i was wondering if you'd turn deblur to 10 in GM+ if i get 60 fps constantly in games. Thanks for the video
Yes, De-Blur 10 for 60fps/Hz
Almost at 10k bro!!!!
So close!
No hate but it never compares with native frames per second. The natural motion clarity cannot be beaten by fake frames. Same thing applies with the resolution a fake 4K vs. real 4K. Not to mention the fake HDR settings vs. real HDR settings. Thanks for the upload.
I'm all for real resolution and FPS but we have to get what we can
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 abso-freaking-lutely YES.
Why l cannot use motion plus someone help me😢???
HDMI Console Mode, Game Mode ON, VRR off and 60Hz Output
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 vrr off got it boss
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 l thought vrr was boosting fps doesnt it?
VRR and Vsync ON prevents screen tearing when dropping frames below the target and eliminates stuttery motion when panning the camera (if the FPS is high enough)
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 but there are games tht motion plus not be able to support yes? Cuz l cant turn it on in bo6
I went front G2 to S95c. The difference between the brightness and color volume was massive, especially in game mode 🎉
I was blowed away in the previous video and I didn't even had it on the full BT2020 mode, the color brightness is dream like
@plasmatvforgaming9648 I had the qn900b, qn900a, G2
I can say for sure the S95c is the best gaming tv I ever had
To be fair G2 and G3 looked dim with dull colors in game mode which was a big complaint. They have since fixed that on G4 i understand, but ofcourse qdoled colors will still look richer by default with colors anyways, but G4 will have the edge on overall sharpness/shadow detail and brightness in game mode overall
@pboissie G4 is a beast 💪 i really hope to get it one day 🙏
I don't know if it's better or worse from S95c on game mode, though 🤔
@@DarkLionn83 yea man i want to upgrade my lg c9 to a G4 but its so expensive still lol almost as much as sony a95L. While the samsung s90d is 1k less, tough decision 😂 i already own an older qdoled for my other tv, with my s95b, so i want to stay LG to replace the c9 to atleast still have one tv with dolby vision and DTS audio, better processing for lower res content…which samsung doesnt have ofcourse…will wait for further G4 price drop i guess for now lol
Really excited for this video! Gonna be nice to see what you think comparing this to Trumotion.
The day LG makes this mode for C4 and G4 is a very happy day indeed. They have promised 5 years of new WebOS revisions and updates from the newer tvs in the future 5 years forward, so if 144hz BFI and Game Motion Plus comes as a feature this years line-up should get those features. Improvements to upscaling is already promised and gets updated every month, so its gonna be exciting to see how Samsung handles it on there panels and how good it is on S95C. The fluidity wasn’t as good on S90C as on my LG C4, looked a little less perfect in motion but nothing that ruined the experience, just not as good as LG TruMotion in terms of added frames and frame pacing fluidity (frame-times) looked more stable I guess atleast for my eyes but they might have patched and fixed it on Samsung so this video is exciting.
I would love if they would add immense competition and strike at LG so that LG goes crazy and shoots back with all they have.
I’ve just tried this out on my S95D with hogwarts legacy via series X and wow! Setting the game to 60hz performance mode with level 2 looks smoother and better than running the game in VRR high frame rate mode. The input lag is negligible too. This is going to be such a great future for when GTA6 comes out.
Nice!
@@plasmatvforgaming9648i‘m also doing the same with my ps5 pro and the last of us 2 . Even though the game runs in performance mode between 70-90 fps y prefer the feeling and smoothness from the Game Motion Plus option .
The same counts for Demons Souls and HFW.
Would you be able to do videos that aren't game related, if ,possible Cheers
Yes, I'll make a movie related video about the S95C, S95C vs C1, and especially when I try the 3d glasses prototype sample I received to get 3d on the C1 which could be tunned for the S95C too
You should use VRR with Lossless scaling, I prefer to use LSFG on heavy games that may go below 60fps, GMP on games that are constantly at 60fps.
Sounds like a good plan
How's the lack of dolby vision affecting your overall content consumption?
I've never even seen the DV logo pop on my C1, there are no DV games on PC and I just use it for PC gaming. On the other hand HDR10+ is a killer feature for PC gaming. I'll cover that soon
@@plasmatvforgaming9648ok thanks 😊
I'm surprised you didn't mention the "auto HDR remastering" feature. It could have been interesting to create a video comparing Samsung's auto HDR remastering VS native HDR VS Reshade
Where is that setting?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 isn't that just active tone mapping heh
@@plasmatvforgaming9648Write on Google "What is Auto HDR Remastering feature in Neo QLED TV?" (And click on the second link)
But that's weird, I thought it was available on all the latest Samsung TVs. In the end, I have the impression that it's only on the neo QLED, that doesn't make any sense
The feature only appears on the product page of QN90C, QN95C, QN90D, QN95D
This is a feature that excites me as much as game motion plus, and it's available in game mode
The problem is that Samsung's mini LEDs TVs have become less efficient than those from TCL (dimming zone + brightness), TCL holds exclusive rights to the latest generation of CSOT panels.
Samsung is no longer making any effort about miniled technology and the auto hdr remastering feature is not available on their oled tvs, it's really a waste
That's HDR10+. It converts non HDR games to HDR through Samsung's own HDR processing.
Where do I get a C1? It sounds great. Do you know how the motion fluidity compares to a CRT monitor?
The LG C1/G1 OLED Motion Pro high at 120fps/Hz has 3.2 milliseconds of persistence equal to 3 pixels of motion blur when moving at 1000 pixels per second, that's like 312fps. A CRT can have 1ms of persistence at just 60fps which like 1000 fps
Why use this instead of freesync LFC which looks much better imo
More frames improve motion, VRR just prevents tearing at variable fps
Hey man, would you use GMP instead of VRR on games that can run 70-90 fps with VRR? Example: The last of us.
I feel GMP ist smoother but I’m afraid that I might be losing some picture quality . 😕
Make sure to set the Output to 60Hz and 60fps locked no drops. Then GMP should be better than 90fps
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 thanks sir, I feel that all games runs better with GMP even in my PS5 Pro . I was just between VRR and GMP because I don’t want to lose any picture quality.
If I want it for movies which one is better in motion samsung oled or lg oled, exemple i wanna watch anime with very smooth motion, I wondering which ones should I choose?(like a s90c or s90d vs c3 or c4)
The animation of animes are sub 24fps, there's no way to have fluidity on those. It's like Cuphead, a game with low fps animations that looks jarring even at high fps just because the animations don't scale well, otherwise it would look speed up
I haven't tried the interpolation for movies on the S95C yet but I'd get a C4 for movies just because most video content doesn't have those HDR colors (unless you forced them with TV settings) and non MLA WRGB has perfect blacks and no raised with light like QDOLED. I'll cover that on another video
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 But overall the s90c has better colors then c3, i saw some compere on yt and looks better, but in real life i dont know how big that difference
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Btw, I cant wait your compare videos with the c1, its so relevant to me now, thanks your content.
LSFG dosen't work in exclusive fullscreen or when your hz matches your FPS, and I saw you were at 60hz instead of 120hz.
But with that said, the latest W11 update changed how windows captures frames so we have to write parts of the program now unfortunately thanks to Microsoft, so it may be in a glitchy state for some people until then. Good video!
Yeah, I missed that, I pinned the first comment that realized that and also explained it in the description of the video.
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I will say though it's probably more fair to compare LSFG in performance mode vs the TV since the TV's interpolation is in its performance mode too for reduced latency at the expense of image quality. It works the same way with LSFG, except better performance is also an added variable
I'll make a direct comparison with LosslessScaling in another video. This one was messed up
Yup this is what puts samsung tv's in front of LG when it comes to gaming on consoles. Turns any 60 fps into 120 with minimal lag and minimal artifacts while keeping HDR highlights, there was only one 30 fps game I've played on ps5 which was final finatasy 16 because performance mode was broken. Used game motion plus and it basically played more smooth instead of the native 30 fps, felt more like 40 fps plus. With this feature you keep your hdr highlights, bfi ruins that unfortunately. TCL has game motion plus as well, LG and Sony need to get on the ball and release a feature like this. This is why samsung outsells LG like crazy 😂
Sir does sony tv have better motion setting than this tv and which tv did you tested in sony
Not the Sony TVs from today, a very old TV. This one
th-cam.com/video/N6tGrTwKZp4/w-d-xo.html
Was RTSS fps limit preventing lossless scaling from going above 60?
Not at all, locking the FPS is actually required for LosslessScaling
What’s the difference between this and Framegen or FSR 3?
It always works for all games, it doubles the FPS, it costs no GPU performance
I am very appreciate for your review.
How about QD OLED's raised blacks around bright hilight? I am very curious about that.
I want to get QD OLED. But raised blacks around bright hilight would be a deal breaker for me. So I am waiting for your experience about that😁
I'll cover that issue. It's a big problem imo. Under any lighting conditions you loose the perfect blacks, including the light produced by the TV itself, which is very bright
Basically, the TV lights up the room, and the blacks don't look like my C1
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 But you get much better color brightness and color gamut over C1 as you showed us in your color bars test 😀
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
Oh my gosh, that's exactly what I was worried about.
I was worried that even in a completely dark room, the light from the bright highlights on the TV would reflect off the walls of the room, and that the reflected light would then reach the blacks on the TV and lift the blacks.
You mean this is true, right?
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Now that I think about it, there are some W OLED products that also have raised blacks issues, like the G3.
If so, could it be that the G3, like the QD OLEDs, also has raised blacks due to light from the TV?
😢😢😢😢
Perfect blacks are OLED's very precious feature. 😢😢
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 is this also before even modding for extra brightness or have you already done that?
Why not show it with 30 fps
I'll dedicate a video to 30fps
Can you test if this works at other refresh rates as well? If you send the TV a 50Hz signal for example. Or maybe even 72Hz, because the max refresh of the S95C is 144Hz right
It should work at 50, I'll try it. At 72 it won't work because there's no 72Hz resolution listed and due to the one connect box you can't change or create any custom resolution, Nvidia scaling and DLDSR don't work
You can't eliminate the 4096 resolution with the CRU app either
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 ah that sucks. so you're stuck with the given options I guess? does a 1440p 60hz option exist for you? because it didn't for rtings
Is there a way to turn 30fps to 120fps like you could w/ LG C1?
No, I was hoping for that to be the case
@@plasmatvforgaming9648so there are no interpolation features outside of game mode like the c1?
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 that’s unfortunate.. really hope GTA VI runs at 60fps at least on console
I'd much rather have frame interpolation than BFI(fancy word for strobing), it's pretty much going back before flicker-free LCDs(and to CRTs and maybe Plasma) and going very low frequency(whatever the refresh rate is it sounds like) and full on modulation.
I recommend people take a look at the PWM_sensitive subreddit for more information on why you should avoid PWM-like displays/features.
I personally think it is responsible for how bad my myopia is.
Brute force sample and hold kHz refresh rate isn't the goal, we need that for HDR and because some people are sensitive to Flickering. The problem is that we're not there yet and Flickering is great for those who can tolerate it
@@plasmatvforgaming9648
You may be able to tolerate PWM-like effects or not even realize you are feeling/being affected, doesn't mean there isn't a problem,
I'm just merely here to inform those who may not know about it and may care, i can't force anyone who doesn't to care about it, merely an conflict in interests/priorities.
Motion clarity para mi es una de las cosas mas importantes de cualquier tv o monitor además del contraste por su puesto, por eso compré el asus qdoled de 240hz y sigo con la C1 que tiene 120hz BFI lo que equivale a 312fps. La pena es la reducción de brillo. Pero para eso ya tengo el monitor que no pierde brillo a 240hz/fps y la homogeneidad del color es superior, los blancos son superiores para mi gusto también. La cuestión es de que te sirve una Tv con un HDR superior, con mas brillo , etc... pero que tiene más desenfoque cuando juegas y pierdes esos matices por desenfoque. Tendría que verla a 144hz y 144fps a ver que tal es esa s95C para dar una opinión más objetiva.
Saludos bro!
144 es solo un poco mejor, esta S95C no se ve clara en movimiento
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 El problema para mucha gente será el factor limitante en base a la potencia del setup, ya que mantener 144fps en 4k no es tarea fácil. Yo ya tengo reservada en una tienda de unos amigos la 5090 cuando salga, me guardarán una. Con la 4090 voy bien pero necesito algo de punch en según que juegos. Me gustaría ser tu vecino para poder enseñarte mi asus qdoled de 240hz jugando a 240fps a oscuras en mi setup. La experiencia te aseguro que es amazing compadre. En cualquier caso disfruta esa TV , por el precio que has pagado es un big deal.
Hey Ariel, this only works on 60hz refresh rate on PC?So you set resolution to 60hz in Nvidia control panel? If so then Game motion plus it can only display 60 fps on 60hz right?
60Hz output from the console or PC, the HDMI has to be in Console Mode, Game Mode on. The TV will give you 120fps out of 60 from the content. Even when the source is 60Hz the TV is refreshing at 120Hz
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Thx for clarifying, i have a odyssey g8, not sure if this will work, but my OSD and functions are very similar to the s95c
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 so this is confirmed it doesn't interpolate up to to 144hz right? I thought this was the case, the fact that 144hz also only runs in PC mode is the other give away I guess. Thanks for the in depth analysis. Also because it doesn't work in PC mode means it also can't work with the full 4:4:4 color space (only 4:2:2 i think), unlike lossless scaling which doesn't have that restriction. Agree that it's still a great feature OOTB though.
Does it support VRR? I guess not right? If not, I can only see this being good for console gaming. Still, a cool feature.
The TV supports VRR bit for this feature you need to turn it off
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Yeah that's what I was afraid of, so good for console gaming but on PC I would still use LSFG/AFMF2 for VRR support.
Does this higher the smoothness of 120fps ps5 games or is this only for 60fps max?
This doubles the fps with interpolation from 30 to 60 or from 60 to 120
If you already have 120fps this is not going to work. The output of the PS5 has to be 60Hz
Oh wow i didnt know it was that useful. I own a s90c since 1 year and i never used it for my ps5 games🫠. Thank you you are the best❤
😮😮😮 just tried it on my s90c with far cry 6
It's just way better to use framegen mods for PC that can allow fsr3 in basically every game.
Those don't work great all the time, it's awful in Howards Legacy, for example. And it doesn't exactly double the FPS without any performance hit.
I agree that 120 fps on the oleds like the c1 looks blurry, but it’s good enough for me. 60 fps though looks like crap. That’s why I don’t think lg oleds are good for consol gaming.
great video!
I never like these TV motion interpolation features or nvidia frame gen/amd frame gen. DLSS performance is good enough for me to get decent frames on a 3080 @ 4k until I grab a 5080 :)
I HATE because on PC this kind of settings doesnt work as good as consoles. I just dont know why
HDMI Console Mode Picture Cinema Home (Custom), VRR Gsync Freesync off, resolution output to 60Hz (Better input lag than 30Hz) lock the FPS to 30 (half Vsync) De-Judder 10 OLED Motion Pro Medium, that's 240fps like motion with obvious downsides
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 I did all this and playing 30fps the 60fps felling doesnt happen. Dont know what Im doing wrong. On consoles it works GREAT
Game motion plus is greyed out
HDMI Console, VRR OFF, ALLM office on Console, 50 or 60 Hz output
I really dont understand your reply. Im
Using a ps5
Best solution is still: upgrade your GPU/CPU and enjoy even better motion and frames when using FG or lossless or without.
But of course if you cant afford it, this could be usable. I sold my CX and got the LG G4 because I dont need BFI 120 anymore as I now have 144hz TV and the RTX4090 gives many frames in many games so the motion is very good anyway above 120hz/120fps and then one can apply lossless scaling or FG if supported. So for me this Samsung feasture is not needed.
But I understand not everyone can afford this. So this could be a nice solution.
I want to react to Jensen announcement of the 5090 with one of those Dubai billionaire cloths and 30k cash on top of the desk and my hands with big gold necklace. That would be so 😁
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Hehe, yes Nvidia is greedy. But thats also due to low competition. But if people stopped buying GPUs for a while and are fed with cheaper good enough graphics, nvidia prices may go down some time in the future. I will not be looking at RTX 5000 series at all...
I dont like FG so much, even with BaseFramerate at 60, it produces Artifacts and Ghosting/Blur little like TAA.
If the Gpu could do BFI instead of FG that would be cool 😁
@@TheEdmaster87 yes but you have to realize you're in the minority. Even if people have the money they aren't going to invest into something like that. Most are casual gamers, 1000 dollar tv plus a console for less than 500 bucks and you're already getting 120 frames. It's good enough for most consumers, you're in like the 2 percent who takes gaming that serious.
I don't find it interesting on Samsung TVs, it's known to cause artifacts. Sony and LG tvs implement motion features in much better ways, if you ask me.
LG and Sony need to have their interpolation on Game mode
Please tell LG and Sony to release a feature like this in game mode, shoot even TCL has this feature. Minimal lag and you keep hdr highlights. It's a big reason why samsung is molly whopping LG in sales and plus qd-oled 😂
Once the channel grows to the point where these companies' representatives would listen, I'll definitely try to steer things in our direction as gamers
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 10K just around the corner!
I'm sick of the handicap things we are doing because fps has been bad. Kinda sad that Playstation is doing a psr before xbox. Xbox spoken about fsr before Playstation, and here we are without it and we aren't getting a better consol either. Gaming today, if you aren't on a $5000 pc, you are lagging, skipping frames 30 ms frame times. Just all over the place
Facts
Is this the TV for people who dock their switch xD
Switch is going to look terrible on such a big screen because the resolution is very low
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 Theirs an HDMI capable that does anti-aliasing and light upscaling. It makes things like Switch games look sharper
i have a philips 43" ips with p5 engine, and that processing is amazing 30fps looks and feels like 60 fps and it's better then my sony 65" 89j Va which is 120 hz, but picture engine is rubbish, great for movies, but if the game is 30 fps I don't play it... Oled is way better :)
Nice!
Can you do video how its is on philips i have one older 855 but i want to se newer version
Bjt still. C1 can do 120 bfi. So 240fps. Bam
.
Actually, OLED motion pro Medium is like 240fps, High is like 312fps
Funny I just bought the S90C last week and it's ridiculously better than my old LG CX on stock settings. I've been lucky to get a gen2 panel on my 55 inch and I went ahead and took the risk already and accessed the service menu to change the model type to the s95c and do the anapeak mod, pushing it all the way to 1023 and also did a couple of other modifications to remove abl and increase base luminance as recommended on a forum post I found. It is now insanely bright, it has the amazing benefits of incredibly vibrant colors and very good contrast with much better near black than the CX AND a full 100% brightness that is better than my old IPS LCD. It's mind boggling, I just watched a DBZ episode and the screen didn't dim almost at all it looked like a high end LCD in brightness. When it comes to watching HDR movies the scene looks much more natural in daytime scenes with lights sources and shimmering objects looking true to life. Absolutely love this upgrade I made by selling my old CX for 450 and buying this TV new for 940 online!
The S90C 55 wasn't available, that's what I wanted
Got this one for 1139.99usd
Damnnnnn post a vid brah
@@RandomUnassignedYTHandlestill the qd-oled is superior tech, it's just facts.
@@beammeupscottsp7952 Yes it may be overall. However, for my tastes, I really wish they would add a polarizer. I think it might have even been Samsung that pioneered the mirror black look back in the day. And I wish they would offer that on their OLEDs. And of course, I desperately wish Samsung and/or LG would offer an OLED Motion Pro equivalent. At this point, it's like oh that OLED picture looks awesome. Wow, that one looks even more awesome! And yet for motion clarity you have to try to find a model from 2020/2021. I would at least think this rolling scan motion clarity circuit would reappear in OLED computer monitors. After all, their LCD competition features such motion clarity enabling hardware.
This feature significantly increases input lag + artefacts. Its only cool for content, where you doesn't need low input lag. For games there is technology nvidia frame generator which working on very powerfull gpu and it's not even perfect. but input lag almost the same. with tv we have technologe which not works with game engine directly but only with a signal, and this technology working on weak samsung SoC. And result will be not even close to dlss framegen with 20-25ms input lag. So my opinion and my personal case - this tecnhology only useful for sport content. Instead of buying expensive tv it’s better to buy ps5 pro where you will never see 30 fps. Thanks for video although
Silent hill 2 just said they'll have a 30 fps graphics mode for the game on PS5 Pro. Will this feature work to boost those frames if they're locked at 30 fps?
@@Xavier-do6ty Yes, it'll give you 60
@@plasmatvforgaming9648 oh boy 😀👐