The i-Opener Followup - Using Windows 98 and Mounting the Hard Drive!
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It's about time we take a closer look at the i-Opener! We're gonna give Windows 98 a test drive on this thing, and properly mount the hard drive using a bracket that I couldn't believe found its way to me.
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00:00 - Introduction & Recap
01:38 - The Hard Drive Bracket
04:07 - Mounting the Hard Drive
07:42 - Using Windows 98
21:25 - Outro
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That HDD LED shining through the modem light pipe is just magical engineering
I love that an old school computer geek saw your vid, HAD the old hardware, and shared it to make this. This is EPIC cool!
I'd also like to note that I'm quite impressed with the quality of Ken's kit. Way to go Ken!
If only ken could provide the information for people make their own on pcbway haha
@@systemchris agreed. That would be the bee's knees.
11:00 Cheap Amazon cables are notorious for those kinds of issues. It's often a 50/50 shot whether a cheapo RCA cable actually has the channels on the right colors.
Installing Windows 98 on a i-Opener is very legit. Purely the heart and soul of Classic Windows OS’ to this day.
Run the OG Rollercoaster Tycoon on this.
This I-opener is actually a great all in one windows 98 machine!
Great video Micheal!
I swear youre gonna be the next LGR, your production value has really gotten good the past year or two, I love it.
Also ken is really cool for sending that kit to you, major respect
Nah man. LGR is the next Michael MJD
"Trident Cyber Blade" is the most 90s name I've heard all month
Michael, as usual, I'm less than one minute into this video and already loving the content. What you've been producing is only top-notch content. Keep up the great work man!
Thanks
Could you maybe do a follow-up on this machine where you try to run MCL 1.2 (Its a Linux distro for 486 systems intended to make modern day computer related tasks possible) on the machine? Have had amazing results on my 486 with 4 MB of RAM so I would love to see how it runs on one of these.
I'm always down for strange or lesser known Linux Distributions but I could only find some very outdated infos for MCL (mattis-cool-linux?). Do you perhaps have more information for me?
@@RandomDudeFromYT Managed to find it! The full name is Minki's Cr*ppy Linux, and there are a couple of videos on the creator's Tic Tac, mueller_minki, as well as a link in their bio. The site has a web demo and some more info
@@RandomDudeFromYTI think they mean Minki's Crappy Linux, which is from last year (which would have been 'this year' at the time you two wrote your comments :P)
I landed up with the iMod 2 kit and having to buy the fan separate. I think the iMod 3 kit came very late in 2000, well past my iOpener hacking days. Note that I did cut a hole in the metal shielding, because the fan was pretty obstructed and LOUD otherwise. Some sparky rotory tool action and it was fixed. For expansion, I used a USB to Ethernet adapter and a Parallel-To-SCSI cable to add a CD Recorder.
Ooh yes!!! I've been waiting for this video! I remember reading a TH-cam comment or website article from someone who used one like that with Windows 98 as a temporary PC to get online with, probably because they couldn't afford something like a used eMachines eTower or Gateway Essential PC and needed something they could use to get online until they could afford a more powerful desktop PC, at least if I recall that comment or article correctly.
I had considered buying an i Opener back in the day for my sister (disabled), but mentioned it to a friend who had one, and he said something about having to pay long distance charges that almost tripled the subscription fee to use it. So I built her a system using parts I had laying around, and paid her $19/month for dial up service instead. (I lived on my own property roughly 30 miles north of her and Mom's house)
As an aside, Heretic is the only game that I've played that honestly made me jump back in my chair the first time I played it.
I would love to see a 1990s MIDI recording studio setup, that's what I am currently working on - but it's so fiddly and tough to configure lol 1990's UI and 1990's hardware.
I love it though, man it's the most interesting era for oddware and strange and wonderful retro tech.
I remember having a laptop with a passive matrix display. I remember thinking it had something to do with how my eyes saw that type of display and not the screen itself. Lol
But I used to play Age of Empires a lot which wasn’t too bad!
I forgot how painful playing a FPS game was until recently. I restored an old Toshiba laptop and played Doom. Felt like I was getting a strange version of motion sickness. 😂
@@hitechfl I couldn't imagine! I mostly played RTS and some platforme games when I had one. I did play a few 3D games on it for the short period of time that old thing worked lol
Hey Michael, what are the chances (or interest) in checking out XP Media Center Edition? I realize these machines can be a bit hard to find, but it'd make for an interesting video, don't you think?
He may have already but a long time ago
my Idea just went on Installing on the HP Compaq Small Form Factor from 2008.
Yeah I loved that as a kid, would love to see a video retrospective on it
I have been loving the videos! I have installed Windows 7 on modern hardware once. im doing it again from no 3.0 drivers to working 3.0 usb drivers. you're inspiring me to get my own latitude laptop!
Successfully you're not suspicious ma'am
@NatetheNintendofan I didn't get enough sleep, so Im just giving up on spelling. 😅
I use Windows 7 as my main os in my PC
Its hardware is an intel I7 7700K 16 GB of ram and an Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 so kinda modern
I waited for 20 days to watch this video. Thank you Michael 😊
Nice video mjd. You were the reason why i got into technology.
Daemon tools is a way to play CD games in windows 98 se with no CD drive. You just need to have the disc images either on the local drive or on a network share the windows 98 se can see.
wow I wish these kits were a thing back when I still had one of these!
Also lol nice Apple-branded IDE drive, turning the i-Opener into the world's jankiest iMac clone 🤣
branded drive, installed windows on an iopener
Love these kind of videos. Pushing stuff to its limits!
MJD uploads. Can't miss. Sleep can come later.
It’s always awesome when you post new videos! 😝
I imagine you could use the printer port for external CD rom drives. MicroSolutions Backpack drives come to mind for that. ;)
USB CD rom enclosures might work if you are willing to sacrifice the USB port to it. Though not sure how well Win98 would support such drives. :P
Ya got a good point!
Awesome video, Michael!
Never saw this device in New Zealand but really enjoyed the video. A nice early 2000s vibe. Thank you.
i love ur videos michael keep up the good work! :)
9:25 - The Yamaha OPL3-SAx is the exact same sound card which is in the Toshiba Satellite 225CDS. So you should be able to install the Toshiba Yamaha Station Media Player. It's so much better than Microsofts.
Looks like great hardware to run RedStar 3.0
The odd computer with the odd OS
thanks for the vid Michael
We did quite a bit of work with the IDT WinChips back in the day and found that they ran quite cool for a CPU. So that was good. However, the x86 compatibility was not so good. There were lots of games that wouldn't run correctly. But put them on an AMD K6 or even a Cyrix chip and they ran quite well!
I opened my eyes to this I-Opener
This video is a real i opener for all of the people who wanted to put windows 98 on their I-opener
hey michael you are the best!🥰
nice video michael! i grew up with windows xp but i have used windows 98 when i was a kid from computers i bought at the thrift stores or yard sales when i was a child... that passive matrix display would of driven me nuts back then and now id probobly throw it out the window!
thank you for this video!!!! im stuck at home recovering from surgery and are extremely bored!!!!!!!!
i love that the i-opener hacker guy mailed you & send you a kit
Good video as always.
Can you upgrade the CPU on these things? I've heard the WinChip is more like a suped up 486, so a Pentium might bring Half-Life up to nearly playable levels.
It does look like a regular socket so it would at least be worth a try, could possibly be the best upgrade this thing could ever get.
@@SergioEduPbesides having an active matrix lcd screen put in
@@badcatalex that is also a huge upgrade but I (personally) would put actually being able to run some more intensive stuff above a nice screen, it could even be running headless for all I care.
that was gonna be my question as well. would it be possible to throw a better processor in it now that it has active cooling? an lcd upgrade would be awesome as well.
Yes back in the day I put a k6-2 in mine. nice performance boost
Perfect example of, "Just because you CAN do something does NOT mean you SHOULD do something."
Even at $99, back in the day, this thing was far more trouble than it was worth modifying.
Yay new Michael MJD upload!
Yamaha OPL3-SAx audio driver? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
Ken is such a champ
This thing is no gaming powerhouse, but maybe it would be cool to try out old devtools and IDEs on it like Borland Delphi, Visual C++, etc
why not combine those
borland c++
Pretty freakin cool
I'm a bit surprised to see that this thing has a Yamaha OPL3-SAx, a sound chip I'm very familiar with. It's an ISA device with a genuine OPL3 synthesizer as you'd expect from Yamaha, and a very compatible Sound Blaster Pro 2.0 implementation, so the DOS audio support on this machine is actually excellent. Shame the display lets it down though.
Dang this is so cool
Nice, cheap, all in one DOS machine. I love it.
I miss the screen savers tech tv show ! Used to watch it back in the Early 2000s
“It can run classicube! Technically…” the new tagline for this bad boy
I'm curious as to how this thing might have handled a programming workflow. If I'm enough of a computer nerd to buy and install a mod kit for this thing, I'm probably comfortable opening up some sort of IDE and trying to write some code.
Very cool video indeed. Wold it be possible to upgrade the CPU to give it a bit more oomph? It is socketed and now it also has a cooler :)
That's a good point! I do kinda wonder what the limitations of that can would be. It almost looks like the fan from an old Pentium 2 PC i used to have back in the day!
I've been wondering about that ever since I've heard about this machine. What core voltages does it support? What FSB speeds? Can you set everything with dip switches/jumpers? How much on board cache does it have? how much RAM does it support and at what speeds? Upgrading to AMD K6-III or K6-III+ would be awesome, but it would require the lower core voltages, setting the multiplier and preferably higher FSB speeds. I could see it has a VIA chipset, but not which one, some supported all these things, some didn't. Still so many questions left. I hope some will be answered some day.
You know, I think I have the perfect item for you to truly enhance the iOpener Windows PC experience. It's a USB 2.0 media bay that has drivers for 9x that uses USB to add an external IDE HDD and external optical drive to a system. it comes with an external power brick and lets you install your own HDD an CD-ROM (I think it also has USB ports and a multi card reader setup as well?). It would be absolutely glorious to see it hooked up to the iOpener as the ultimate dongle XD
Doesn't necessarily seem low-clutter though like these butt fair enough XD
Regarding half-life, did you try running it in software mode? On some older PCs, I had some luck using software rendering rather than directx.
Was about to say this myself.
I did, performance was much worse
talk about an eye opening experience
Next, you could see which operating systems can be installed. 98 kinda works. Maybe trying 2000 or Me or NT... XP...
Lack of any kind of late 90s 3D gaming is probably expected, like on laptops of this era. There was no 3D card, or probably even proper graphics card drivers, and then probably DirectX failures as well.
On top of it, it was also simply a slow device even by 1999 standards - so don't expect any kind of this era gaming. Late DOS games though - as you showed - different story, but of course crappy screen wouldn't work for games anyway.
I would love to see some period-correct Linux distro as this mod was clearly designed towards it! To have a small hacking machine.
Cool review...
Wish we knew about this when it was out hahaha
Sierra studios.... brings back memories of when I discovered Caesar III, then Empire Earth.
now i need a gamers nexus video about running w98 on this the idea gave me a giggle
Yeah I have mixed luck with these keyboard adaptors before. I got a pair of din5 to ps/2 keyboard on ebay before and they have no idea what they're doing and wired up the din5 completely in reverse and sent -5V into my NOS BenQ keyboard instead of +5V and completely destroyed it! Triple check the wiring before you use them!
Finally something that works on first attempt! (Except the half-broken HDD)
Now its an actual eye opener
At 13:24 that man really is having his i-opened😂
Great video, but i wonder what the limit in terms of modern osses is. 🤔
It would be nice to see MJD making food videos like LGR 😂😂
For the people who put these machines in their vehicles you litteraly guessed the future of automobiles
For applications requiring CD, you could use a software that allows you to mount an ISO or IMG file as a virtual optical drive which works fine in my case for these applications
I am using daemon tools on my win 98se pc.
@@stonedbeaver Yeahhh. I have previously used daemon tools. The UI can be a bit complicated to use at the beginning 😅. I currently use WinCDEmu 4.1 by Sysprogs. However, it's only compatible with XP and newer. Nice to know that Daemon Tools is compatible with Windows 98 SE
@@bhasitl Okey. You have to use an older version of daemon tools. I think it's version 3 something. The newer one doesn't work.
Oh. Ok. Thankss. Btw, they are completely free to use? Like no trial and all?
@@bhasitl The lite version is free.
Im probably too late for a suggested game or what id like to see this running but would like to see if something like Beyond Atlantis would work?
Wow a real I-opener
Bring in LISA SIMPSON & the MONORAIL SONG!!!
I say that's an updated MonoRail
Does Win98 support the USB port? Can I assume there is no serial port on the board? If these are available this would work for programming several generations of Motorola radios. No fancy graphics, just simple read, modify, and program simple programs that only work on 98. Possible to do dual boot to run Win95?
I’ve had one of these since they were shipping, and hacked it a looooong time ago. I do remember that PS/2 splitter thing being reversed is the way all of them are. Not sure why, maybe so the keyboard that shipped with the i-Opener couldn’t be used on other machines? I never plugged it in to another computer to see if it worked.
MJD do you know of any good routers that can connect old legacy devices like a Sony PSP?
Can we change the CPU to have a little more juice from this thing ?
Otherwise very nice vidéo .
I'm in shock that doom worked that well. I thought a via chip was some weird slow thing that (in hardware) emulated a x86 slowly.
Should've tried Microsoft Hover in Shift+f4 mode (undocumented full screen with full quality mode), and Microsoft Hellbender. Latter would've actually showed if this thing is at all capable of dx2 full support in fullscreen (believe it or not it's very weird among graphics cards of the era).
Next we’re going to be installing RhapsodyOS on the i-Opener
I would love to see NetBSD on that thing, or a contemporary Slackware Linux from that era.
Rollercoaster Tycoon and an old DOS release of ZSNES (and Nesticle?)
I think you can try to swap this weak WinChip CPU for a Pentium MMX 233 or even Amd K6/K6-2. Sd hard drive using the ide-to-sd adapter should also help making this more responsive.
Can it run anything modern like puppylinux? I want one! Lol. Id mod it into a new system tho
I take pre medical but thus stuff still intrigues my curiosity.
please do a video on the windows powered louis vuitton handheld personal computer
Wise decision to not show how you place the thermal paste.
"Koo Ber Net Tees" hahahahahaha! Classic.
if it would be possible to get video out of that thing and connect it to a crt it could work as a dos gaming machine.
In 1999, I don't think you would expect 3d of any kind. It's probably using Direct3d HAL to display using software mode.
The IDT Winchip wasn't terrible for integer, but its FPU was garbage. Despite that, I remember playing some decent 3d games with mine using early 3d accelerator cards.
any active matrix displays that fit?
You can upgrade the processor in the i-Opener. K6-2 500 would work if I remember correctly. You will need a low profile copper heatsink for a 1U server tray.
Depends on what version of the iOpener. I had one of the first ones and it did not support dual voltage (mmx or later) processors, so I had to mod in a voltage divider to one of the cpu pins to get that to work. Apparently later ones didn’t need that, but had epoxied bios chips and no IDE pins soldered so was annoying to mod in other ways
The best solution for an optical drive is to get one of those Backpack external CD-RW drives that connect via the parallel port
12:11 here’s a challenge for MattKC
Game worth trying on pcs lile this for stability is ut99 since it has an awesome ui
next video should be Windows Vista Starter Super Lite (x86) 😁
any dos games like scorched earth sir?
Maybe a game like Age of Empires might run on this. I believe all the version in the Collectors Edition DVD do not require a disc to be run.
And I guess card games or mahjongg and games that use a static screen a lot would work great on this. Maybe best of arcade from MS would work. And of course all the Solaeu games.
i wonder how netpliance just kept the IDE cables... almost like they WANTED someone to put a different Operating system on it.
here before this blows up