You are quite cheeky! A serious and well-researched video, and you flip between both pronunciations of GIF throughout. You are able to simultaneously appease and enrage everyone! In all seriousness, this video is amazing, and will be a valuable resource forever!
I kept getting distracted by the change though. I think it would have been cool to hear his switch once, half way through, to show how the common pronunciation changed over time.
I almost didnt watch the rest until I read this comment lol my actual reaction at 0:39 was "if he's going to pronounce GIF incorrectly for the entire video then I don't think I can watch this lmao i'm glad I scrolled down (expecting to see people calling out the pronunciation) to see that it gets better, going to watch the rest now
@@amogusenjoyer that's how I always heard GUI pronounced back in the late 80's and early 90's when DOS programs were still prevalent and having programs with a GUI wasn't necessarily a given.
You mean "JIF" and "GHIF." The problem with "GIF" is that in English, it's ambiguous. 'G' before 'E' or 'I' is most often pronounced softly (as a J), but it doesn't need to be. Hence, gentle vs get. Then again, I can't think of a single English word right now that uses the hard pronunciation of 'G' before 'I.' (Giraffe, gist, gin, ginger--nope. Can't do it.) Rattle some off if you can.
That was my favorite part of this video, because I was prepared for him to pronounce it differently than I do and make the whole video annoying, but instead everyone gets to be happy with how he says it exactly 50% of the time
@@joesterling4299 give, given, giving, gimbal, gimp, girt, girth. I could probs think of more but i just woke up. Gift, gill, gib git, eh that'll do for now.
Excellent as always. The only thing I noticed missing was how Flash took over for a few years in the early 2000's as the graphic format of choice for web design.
Man I'm so waiting for WebP or literally _anything but GIF_ to replace it, GIF is so inefficient by modern standards and loses so much color, it's honestly painful encoding the same small clip as an MP4 and GIF and seeing MP4 outperform the GIF with size and colors both, even though MP4 itself is getting phased out for WebM or whatever AV1 uses
Pretty sure MP4 is just a container similar to AVI or WMV to combine and synchronize the audio and video, the compression of a typical MP4 would be H.264 or H.265, but it doesn't have to be.
Yeah 6 bit looked so much better than all others. Dithering only the 6 bit image and therefore making the comparison useless seems like a very likeable explanation.
The search engine platform Giphy (hard g) reported 10 billion gifs (soft g) 🤔🤔😉 You evenly spread the pronunciation even through multiple contexts... well played
I expect you to tell that under the hood gif is replaced by better formats there it looks like a "gif" for the end user. You don't need gif to loop a short video, better formats can do this more efficient.
I appreciate how you used both the official pronunciation and the most obvious one; also, it should be noted that it's more common for animations purported to be GIFs to instead be WEBMs or MP4s with no audio. It's a shame that APNG didn't catch on, even after most browsers started supporting it, but then again it does tend to be bigger than WEBM and MP4. (Also, I'm surprised to have never seen an animated WEBP, even though the format has supported animation since its 30 September 2010 launch.)
When coming across people who argues over whether it should be pronounced GIF or GIF there is only one thing to do... pronounce it YIFF right away and keep insisting on it no matter what they say!
Well, they were usually dial-up back then. You would usually have the phone bill separate from what ever AOL, Compuserve or Netscape's rates were. The services themselves were billed monthly but the phone bill (which usually comes monthly) would vary depending on the length of time you were online and any other calls you made. Using dial-up was a bit like making a phone call since the data was going through a system that was not designed for data.
GIF sucks... in term of memory file size. I wish people would start replacing them with MP4, WebM or AV1 now. These have much better image quality, file size and has soundtrack support.
Are all these bits, bytes, codes, addresses, files, pallettes, segments, data blocks, extension, links, compatibility comparitors, registers, clock rates, readers, modems, algorithms,...the reason why my computer gets bogged down and runs so slow?
Everyone is talking about how to pronounce it. I pronounce it as G-I-F "like: gee-eye-eff" I'm not sure if that is good for everyone, or makes them all hate me.
I don't care if Jod himself comes down from heaven and declares that pronunciation gospel. The Graphics part of Graphics Interchange Format is pronounced with a hard G, so the acronym is pronounced with a hard G. And anyone who disagrees can call it YIFF for all I care... :P
@@andersjjensen Does that mean any acronym with the letter 'C' has to be pronounced the same as the word that starts with it? One of my favorite shows is CSI, but I don't think I can start calling it "KeySI" anytime soon.
@@qaaris4280 Acronyms that are unpronounceable are just read out loud. SCSI being a somewhat middle ground as it is often pronounced "skasy" (like sassy) by some but spelled out by others. But see-es-eye will always be CSI...
the LZW explanation is fucking terrible! I tried to get it by watching it again but the lack of sense being made I just found frustrating and it started to give me a headache with all the code word algorithm nonsense!
For the last time, it’s GIF, like GIFT, NOT “JIF” We know this for a fact because the .JIF file format also exists. Thus, in order to make a distinction between the two formats, .GIF is pronounced with a hard G, like GIFT.
1.) This is an example of a time when standards overrule common usage. The fact that many people pronounce .GIF as “JIF” means many people are pronouncing it incorrectly, just like those who say “aks” instead of “ask” or “nucular” instead of “nuclear” and “irregardless” instead of “regardless” 2.) The file format is the Graphics Interchange Format not “Jraphics Interchange Format”
Even Jod the almighty, ruler of Heaven and Earth, does not pronounce it JIF. Only the original developer. Who doesn't get a say. That simple. It's not Japhics Interchange Format! :P
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You said it wrong and now I cannot watch.
You are quite cheeky! A serious and well-researched video, and you flip between both pronunciations of GIF throughout. You are able to simultaneously appease and enrage everyone!
In all seriousness, this video is amazing, and will be a valuable resource forever!
I kept getting distracted by the change though. I think it would have been cool to hear his switch once, half way through, to show how the common pronunciation changed over time.
I almost didnt watch the rest until I read this comment lol my actual reaction at 0:39 was "if he's going to pronounce GIF incorrectly for the entire video then I don't think I can watch this lmao i'm glad I scrolled down (expecting to see people calling out the pronunciation) to see that it gets better, going to watch the rest now
omg he really just said ping instead of PNG.. such a good video otherwise it's like hard to believe
He also said "gooey" when talking about GUI.
Maybe he's hinting at how it's a bit dumb to read acronyms as proper words.
@@poopsmithjones1 show me where, in the gif standard, it says how it's pronounced.
I love how he pronounces it as both 'JIF' and 'GIF'
And Goo-wee for GUI hahaha.
@@amogusenjoyer that's how I always heard GUI pronounced back in the late 80's and early 90's when DOS programs were still prevalent and having programs with a GUI wasn't necessarily a given.
You mean "JIF" and "GHIF." The problem with "GIF" is that in English, it's ambiguous. 'G' before 'E' or 'I' is most often pronounced softly (as a J), but it doesn't need to be. Hence, gentle vs get. Then again, I can't think of a single English word right now that uses the hard pronunciation of 'G' before 'I.' (Giraffe, gist, gin, ginger--nope. Can't do it.) Rattle some off if you can.
That was my favorite part of this video, because I was prepared for him to pronounce it differently than I do and make the whole video annoying, but instead everyone gets to be happy with how he says it exactly 50% of the time
@@joesterling4299 give, given, giving, gimbal, gimp, girt, girth. I could probs think of more but i just woke up.
Gift, gill, gib git, eh that'll do for now.
Excellent as always. The only thing I noticed missing was how Flash took over for a few years in the early 2000's as the graphic format of choice for web design.
Man I'm so waiting for WebP or literally _anything but GIF_ to replace it, GIF is so inefficient by modern standards and loses so much color, it's honestly painful encoding the same small clip as an MP4 and GIF and seeing MP4 outperform the GIF with size and colors both, even though MP4 itself is getting phased out for WebM or whatever AV1 uses
This already happened, Giphy will happily serve you the "GIF" in WEBP or MP4 format (although GIF is also supported).
mmmmm nah.
I think JXL is a way more promising image format then WebP, It's better in every measurable way.
iOS doesn’t support webm iirc…so hopefully that changes
Pretty sure MP4 is just a container similar to AVI or WMV to combine and synchronize the audio and video, the compression of a typical MP4 would be H.264 or H.265, but it doesn't have to be.
3:19 Did you get something backwards? The 6 bit looks way better than 7 and 8 bit, much smoother colour gradient.
Yeah 6 bit looked so much better than all others. Dithering only the 6 bit image and therefore making the comparison useless seems like a very likeable explanation.
Since I'm way too lazy to check that theory, i blindly trust Mr. 420BootyWizard. Someone with that name can't be wrong xD
I liked that you pronounced GIF as GIF and GIF
Nononono. He said GIF and sometimes talked out of context about a brand of peanut butter xD
shame he pronounces it GIF sometimes, which is quite different from the correct GIF, but it's fine as long as it's not as bad as GIF
16:03 This is a really interesting point that I don't think a whole lot of people are aware of.
Brings me back when I was a kid and had a 2400 baud modem...lurking on BBSs..waiting hours downloading badly compressed adult image GIFs. LOL
The search engine platform Giphy (hard g) reported 10 billion gifs (soft g) 🤔🤔😉 You evenly spread the pronunciation even through multiple contexts... well played
I expect you to tell that under the hood gif is replaced by better formats there it looks like a "gif" for the end user. You don't need gif to loop a short video, better formats can do this more efficient.
I appreciate how you used both the official pronunciation and the most obvious one; also, it should be noted that it's more common for animations purported to be GIFs to instead be WEBMs or MP4s with no audio. It's a shame that APNG didn't catch on, even after most browsers started supporting it, but then again it does tend to be bigger than WEBM and MP4. (Also, I'm surprised to have never seen an animated WEBP, even though the format has supported animation since its 30 September 2010 launch.)
It’s GIF actually.
no, it's indeed pronounced "GIF", and not "GIF"! 🤓
@@DonnieX6 Aah ! I always thought it was pronounced “GIF” ! Stupid me !
And so it begins 🙃
When coming across people who argues over whether it should be pronounced GIF or GIF there is only one thing to do... pronounce it YIFF right away and keep insisting on it no matter what they say!
2:22 shout out to the Commodore 64, a computer ahead of its time.
Well, they were usually dial-up back then. You would usually have the phone bill separate from what ever AOL, Compuserve or Netscape's rates were. The services themselves were billed monthly but the phone bill (which usually comes monthly) would vary depending on the length of time you were online and any other calls you made. Using dial-up was a bit like making a phone call since the data was going through a system that was not designed for data.
Fantastic video! Top notch research, script, graphics and narration. This channel is tremendous!
That went deep! Beautiful overview and explanation of details regarding its structure
I love how you alternate between the rite way and the wrong way of saying gif. Clever!
We all know it's really pronounced "heef" (the Mexican/Spanish way)
Just combine it and say, GUH-JEEF
@@xcbrr50 I second this, the TRUE alpha pronunciation
That's because Spanish actually has pronunciation rules. In English, they're just suggestions (not pronounced "sug-GUEST-ions.")
Je-fe
HEIF would like to have a word with you.
Great story! Thanks for not getting into the pointless debate of the pronunciation and by using both you annoy everybody equally :)
I really hate that TH-cam didn't update me of your new video. I hit the bell I subscribe and I missed this.
Love all the videos :) excellent as always
Using the Thue-Morse sequence for GIF pronunciation, genius! Now everyone is evenly annoyed 🙂
DIY that you can make animated PNGs? They’re called APNG and work in most browsers.
very interesting, but I have to admit that I couldn't quite follow the technical explanation although I am studying computer science
Totally agree, and I am not a student anymore, I am a full-time dev ^^
You legit always have the best videos. This is all so fascinating, thank you!
Jraphics Interchange Format
why can't we just agree that it's pronounced exactly how it's spelled, just like gist and give are.
This video is just an elaborate ruse to rick roll us
It’s graphics, not jraphics.
Remember, choosy moms choose gif.
Great video! BTW the correct spelling is "Palette", not Pallete.
I'm convinced this video is just an elaborate Rick Roll.
Finally! The lost lore we've all been waiting for!
Is it Gif? Or G(J)if?
GHIF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great video about peanut butter! Fascinating stuff.
Are we just ignoring that he pronounced PNG as "PING"?
I get tears in my eyes, when I see the Old systems. Not to mention the low resolution monitors. Dial up modems, and all that Old crap. 😊😀
It's actually called "Greg".
Just now I start watching 👀 video it's a Amezing and informative 👌 please keep making 🙏
Here I thought the video would be about peanut butter
Oh hey, some quality content!
I'll allow it, just this once.
GIF sucks... in term of memory file size. I wish people would start replacing them with MP4, WebM or AV1 now. These have much better image quality, file size and has soundtrack support.
good luck mp4ring sharp bw lines looped animation
@@bagamax Who gives a fuck about that? Just you?
Great Video. interesting Topic
Man I just watched a 15 minute explanation of an image format
Are all these bits, bytes, codes, addresses, files, pallettes, segments, data blocks, extension, links, compatibility comparitors, registers, clock rates, readers, modems, algorithms,...the reason why my computer gets bogged down and runs so slow?
Everyone is talking about how to pronounce it. I pronounce it as G-I-F "like: gee-eye-eff"
I'm not sure if that is good for everyone, or makes them all hate me.
I like how you alternated between "jif" and "gif" to avoid controversy... only to Rick roll us all later! :P
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I'm lost in the first 4 min of this video. I really don't understand what the "dictionary" is and how to have a "symbolic dictionary".
It's pronounced jyfe like knife
I don't care if Jod himself comes down from heaven and declares that pronunciation gospel. The Graphics part of Graphics Interchange Format is pronounced with a hard G, so the acronym is pronounced with a hard G. And anyone who disagrees can call it YIFF for all I care... :P
@@andersjjensen Does that mean any acronym with the letter 'C' has to be pronounced the same as the word that starts with it?
One of my favorite shows is CSI, but I don't think I can start calling it "KeySI" anytime soon.
@@qaaris4280 Acronyms that are unpronounceable are just read out loud. SCSI being a somewhat middle ground as it is often pronounced "skasy" (like sassy) by some but spelled out by others. But see-es-eye will always be CSI...
this really took an odd turn when he started talking about emotions, like wtf are you talking about.
Thumbs up for good video even though brain too small to unerstan
......like "gift"
ILBM/IFF was way better than GIF and it could expand like hell. Don't get me wrong, I made one of my first salaries writing a GIF encoder.
Dude it's Graphics Interchange Format THAT MEANS IT IS GHIF NOT JIFF WTF
I was waiting to the other meaning of PNG.
"PNG's Not Gif"
It's GIF, not GIF.
It's jui not gui
It's not jif or gif, it's ÿif
It's actually spelt gif not gif.
It's actually spelled not spelt
@@LochyP Spelt is sort of grain. So apparently he's complaining about the agricultural variant of GIF... or something..
it's pronounced, "GIF" !!!
It's GIF. Not jif.
It's GIF, not GIF.
Did you really say "JIF"?
Holy f
pr0n
the LZW explanation is fucking terrible! I tried to get it by watching it again but the lack of sense being made I just found frustrating and it started to give me a headache with all the code word algorithm nonsense!
Oh yea still blurry
Dafuq is a JIF? Its GIF.
Do you get jifts for xmas? Do you jo and gump high with excitement if you do?
Pronounced wrong right out of the gate, good job
*WHOOSH....
yif
OwO
Starts of saying "JIF" - yikes, But he came around later :)
He alternates evenly between JIF and GIF throughout the video... but Rick rolls everyone! :P
@@andersjjensen I think he's just trolling everyone, I like it.
It's infuriating when you say 'Jif'
Just randomly checked what was going on on the channel and happened to see this…lol. Peanut butter?… really?
He said "jif". I can't watch (listen to) the rest of this video
He uses the hard G after that.
My face hurts from cringing every time you mispronounced "gif".
For the last time, it’s GIF, like GIFT, NOT “JIF”
We know this for a fact because the .JIF file format also exists. Thus, in order to make a distinction between the two formats, .GIF is pronounced with a hard G, like GIFT.
language is defined by usage, not standards
Pronounced like the g in graphic, because it stands for that g
Clearly, opinions differ on this. Let’s have a vote on it and then declare the election stolen. So American !
slowdown there. let people have fun. stop correcting
1.) This is an example of a time when standards overrule common usage.
The fact that many people pronounce .GIF as “JIF” means many people are pronouncing it incorrectly, just like those who say “aks” instead of “ask” or “nucular” instead of “nuclear” and “irregardless” instead of “regardless”
2.) The file format is the Graphics Interchange Format not “Jraphics Interchange Format”
So what is the proper pronunciation?
Graphics interchangeable format. G as in graphics. So gif, not jif.
@@GodlikeIridium That's the way I've always seen it. Maybe it should be called grif.
netscape was worse than terrible even at 14400 lol
GIF is pronounced as JIF not GIT
Even Jod the almighty, ruler of Heaven and Earth, does not pronounce it JIF. Only the original developer. Who doesn't get a say. That simple. It's not Japhics Interchange Format! :P
It might be my hearing, but I'm sure he calls it both "jif" and "gif". It reduces his credibility when he can't even get the basics right
*WHOOSH
Who cares about pronunciation, the accuracy of the info is what matters
@@JasminUwU it IS part of the detail. If you know the subject, you know the pronunciation.
@@markc6714 the pronunciation of it has been a heated debate for decades now, it really doesn't matter which one you choose.
@@JasminUwU and so has the existence of the lock Ness monster....but there's a clear answer, and then there are the idiots.....