*Great **Latest.Bike** , good looking, good suspension and love the gearing. I've tested some bikes that were more then twice the price but not as good. Get lots of looks when riding.*
Great to see in detail this craftsman approach to building bikes. Just found them on the 'net and they offer some gorgeous models, including very timeless classics.
Fascinating to watch a true craftsman do his thing. Btw when it comes to welding/ brazing for the most part it’s the heat and not the bright light that damages your eyesight.
Thank you so much for this video, it was so interesting, back in the late 80's i used to race on a Daccordi with Columbus SLX tubing, i was amazed to see that he still makes these frames.
Started watching this not knowing we would wind up at Daccordi. No complaints. I'd love a Daccordi, especially a 50th Anniversary model, which I assume to have been made in this workshop.
Mille Gracie. Molto gentile e simpatico. This is wonderful. Great explanation of carbon and steel inherent properties, rigidity and weight considerations.
The master at work really great,i have a steel daccordi and a carbon one too,great bikes.Nice to see an interview in English,even through luigi was having problems with the language,very interesting his point about bike weight and handling.
Jeff Martin appreciate the effort, I have no problem understanding what Luigi is trying to convey, and he is clearly proud of the progress he’s made. Imagine yourself trying to learn another language at his age.
Agreed, have 2 videos, identical questions in English & Italian and let Luigi flow. I'm sure we would've gotten a LOT more of his wisdom in his native tongue because he was limited when speaking English. It's like asking a scientist to try to explain rocket propulsion using only words with 2 syllables.
Artisan steel framesets will be with us for a long time to come. I like them better than titanium or carbon and I rather have a lugged frame than a fillet brazed frame due to tendencies of cracking at the wlds from overheat. 70, he's experienced. :)
Such a pity the interviewer did not let Mr. Daccordi speak Italian and then add subtitles. The explanations would have been fluent and viewers would have gotten the old man's ideas: Mr. Daccordi accumulated the wisdom of generations of steel frames builders and speaking English reduces him to a babbling locksmith.
Or maybe he just wanted to speak English and the viewers could also enjoy the will he has to do so. I don't feel him being reduced to anything. Maybe it's just in your head.
He interrupts his answers every time and puts words in his mouth. The video needs to be redone for sure 23:37 he says resistance, interviewer interrupts and says adjustment. He's just like an impatient mum trying to predict what he's saying instead of listening and learning
Luigi is a super nice guy. He has watched the Italian bike frame business disappear over time, but despite that remains enthusiastic and dedicated to his craft.
Awesome, shame the interviewer had no idea of the process of building a frame. He had no concept of the level of knowledge of the gentleman whom he was interviewing.
jesus there are some fucking critical keyboard warriors on here who couldn't video or conduct any interview of worth in their life ... , the guy should be commended on taking the time in making this video for us for free that we can look back in the future when Luigi is long gone ....who cares if the interviewer doesn't know some of the finer points of a custom frame that some on here think they might have or that Luigi wants to use his new found talent of English ....great video on where Daccordi is in recent years ...
Make me sad to see this man, very talented but alone in this big place, like he is the last master and all the knowledge he have will disapear after him.
Wider tires are not used to compensate for the carbon, it's because lab tests shown that a bigger tire (25c, 28c) have less rolling resistance than 23c, hard to believe but it's true.
Doctors also used to say that smoking was good for you. I think they're full of shit when they say 28c tires are faster. I think the bike builder knows what he's talking about. He has no reason to lie. It seems to me that the bullshit about 28c tires being faster was just a way for the carbon proponents to fix the problem they created.
@@BEEBEE159 i thinka that this does also depends heavely on the weight of the driver, since the pressure in the tire is relatively to the pressure the weight on the bike transfers to it, therefore the contactarea may vary. Since a wider tire holds more air, he can compansate it better, also is his profil designed to use the wider area. I think, within a certain speed, where the drag isn't much of a factor, for example in the hellclimp phase of a race, the wider tire is in the drivers favour, but for the downhill phase, where the drag becomes relevant, the smaller tire is king, since his rotational airdistortion is less.
@@djangoryffel5135 Yes, I agree, there are other factors for choosing wider tires. As you said, if the rider is obese like many riders here in the US, then wider tires are better for supporting the weight of the rider. I use wider tires, 25mm, because it gives my rims extra protection against pot holes and bumps in the road. I like 23mm tires, but my rims get all bent to hell whenever I hit a large bump or pot hole.
Bigger tire have less rolling resistance at the same pressure as the narrower tire. BUT nobody would pump the wider tire to the same pressure as the narrower tire- because the wider tire would be stiffer than the narrower tire at the same pressure!
I used to have a Rossin Record, 1980s.. love my new to me 1990s Italian Casati Ellis, with Columbus EL- OS tubes, all Campy.. I have a S Selle Anatomica made in Wisconsin seat and is smooth as butter, fast as lightening ⚡( well as fast as an older guy can ) . However wouldn't mind trying titanium Carbon fiber , non recyclable junk in land fills. I wonder do humans think about what happens after they make something. PS I wish him good business and a profitable new year.., but most young guys from what I see are riding carbon from Asia, his family business of steel bike builders may be phasing out.😟 I have heard that just as carbon fiber was coming in they were gonna go to the next generation hydroformed steel , just like aluminum . to bad.. Did not go that route , but even then he would have had to develop that type of business.
I have been riding the same Ciöcc lugged Columbus SLX frame for almost 30 years. (I did spend quite a few miles on an AlAn in there too). Steel is great for general riding and training. It’s race worthy too. I feel the same about carbon plastic frames. I also would consider a Ti frame. Keep riding!
Wow we didn’t have 12 speeds on road bikes when this video was recorded 3 years ago. Shimano as always is slow to adopt 12 speed on road bikes. So when Shimano finally release a 12 speed road groupset. SRAM and Campagnolo will come up with 13 speed. In this never ending arms race. I believe the industry will never stop adding more gears. Now the we have wider 142x12mm thru-axle, 148x12 boost and 157x12mm super boost hubs standards. That’s plenty more extra space available from the previous 135mm quick release hubs standard.
Poteva essere un bel video con un vero maestro telaista italiano, peccato che per risparmiarti qualche minuto di editing per mettere i sottotitoli lo hai fatto parlare in inglese, avrebbe potuto dire molte più cose interessanti nella sua lingua...
He should have just spoke Italian to him and had subtitles . You can see he's clearly did not feel comfortable speaking English... But I guess was good practice
ReCycle Spinning, I lived in Italy for 4-years and learned quickly most Italians don't like speaking any language besides their own. They're very proud people, but the non-verbals are sometimes more powerful than what they're saying.
It's sad because this is a far superior bicycle. The problem for the bankster theives is that they are permanent. Carbon is just glorified paper machae. Fragile. The weight is only a couple of pounds differance. Without a team car with spares, only the stupid would pay for one.
"A couple of pounds" make a lot (!) of difference*! Riding up a hill on a 7-kg bike is so much faster than on a 10-kg bike - the difference is a mere "couple of" or six metric pounds or 30 %. A hand-crafted steel frame is a wonderful ride, but well-made carbon frame is no paper maché*, but so much lighter stiffer. That's why I ride my steel bike on short-to-medium flat rounds and my carbon one for long, hilly tours and sportifs. You don't need to be a "bankster thieve*" to appreciate the advancements in material technology.
This interview felt like teeth being pulled. If YOU cannot speak with the man in his native tongue, bring along someone who can! What this interviewer knows about custom bike frames can written on my thumbnail.
Daccordi has always been a small-batch boutique brand. They can perfectly make a living on the few who still lust for made-to-measure artisanal steel frames.
This chump is going about it all wrong. He has no clue. Dude, have your bikes made in China or Cambodia and only in "superior" plastic (carbon), never inferior steel, prefab'd with Sh&tmano. That's what it's ALL about these days.................
He would probably say the same about your Italian. But, you're not wrong. In fact they should have conducted the Interview in Italian and subtitled it, just for the sake of speed and fluency.
*Great **Latest.Bike** , good looking, good suspension and love the gearing. I've tested some bikes that were more then twice the price but not as good. Get lots of looks when riding.*
i really love this video and wish i could be there to learn more
Daccordi is a very famous Italian bike brand. Its so good to see where these beautiful bikes come from. I wish him continued success. Thanks.
Great to see in detail this craftsman approach to building bikes.
Just found them on the 'net and they offer some gorgeous models, including very timeless classics.
Good to see he has his safety sandals on.
❤ from Bangladesh ❤you elderly men.. ❤
Should have shown close up of the beautiful joints of the lugged frame of Mr Daccordi's frame. Those were works of art.
great story. great looking frame
Daccordi....is world renowned .. not a guy who lives near here.. Catso..che cosa..
This was an awesome video to watch. Thanks for filming and chatting with Mr. Daccordi.
Fascinating to watch a true craftsman do his thing. Btw when it comes to welding/ brazing for the most part it’s the heat and not the bright light that damages your eyesight.
Thank you so much for this video, it was so interesting, back in the late 80's i used to race on a Daccordi with Columbus SLX tubing, i was amazed to see that he still makes these frames.
Thank you very much for this very interesting interview with a master frame builder .
Started watching this not knowing we would wind up at Daccordi. No complaints. I'd love a Daccordi, especially a 50th Anniversary model, which I assume to have been made in this workshop.
Great video, I had a Daccordi brilliant bike, I had to be mindful that the tires had limitations as the frame handled so well
You can tell that he rides... very fit.
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Gracie mile Sigñori , per la master class, sei molto grosso maestro! Un saludo desde Barcelona.
21:55 !
Mille Gracie. Molto gentile e simpatico. This is wonderful. Great explanation of carbon and steel inherent properties, rigidity and weight considerations.
I also happened to see an interview with Signor Daccordi on the BIKE channel today. Great artisan. Great guy.
The master at work really great,i have a steel daccordi and a carbon one too,great bikes.Nice to see an interview in English,even through luigi was having problems with the language,very interesting his point about bike weight and handling.
You are a big artist Mister Daccordi, as big as Jean-Pierre Ryffranck, in my opinion. Bravo !!!!!
Very interesting. Seeing a master craftman at work. Custom steel frames are $1500 to $3000 USD in the states. Thanks.
"Drop outs, gears, lugs" Luigi's english for bike elements improved no end.
Bravo maestro !
Thank you for posting this video.this is great!.
Note the arm to hand tan lines. I'd say he still rides quite a bit. Bravo.
Welding tan
Enjoyed a lot
I am from southern India,thank you for the wonderful video
He should be speaking Italian to Luigi and the translating the answer.
Jeff Martin appreciate the effort, I have no problem understanding what Luigi is trying to convey, and he is clearly proud of the progress he’s made. Imagine yourself trying to learn another language at his age.
Agreed, have 2 videos, identical questions in English & Italian and let Luigi flow. I'm sure we would've gotten a LOT more of his wisdom in his native tongue because he was limited when speaking English.
It's like asking a scientist to try to explain rocket propulsion using only words with 2 syllables.
23:09 lol ok so it became Learn to speak English in high end Italian bike shop 27:23
Artisan steel framesets will be with us for a long time to come. I like them better than titanium or carbon and I rather have a lugged frame than a fillet brazed frame due to tendencies of cracking at the wlds from overheat. 70, he's experienced. :)
Such a pity the interviewer did not let Mr. Daccordi speak Italian and then add subtitles. The explanations would have been fluent and viewers would have gotten the old man's ideas: Mr. Daccordi accumulated the wisdom of generations of steel frames builders and speaking English reduces him to a babbling locksmith.
Or maybe he just wanted to speak English and the viewers could also enjoy the will he has to do so. I don't feel him being reduced to anything. Maybe it's just in your head.
He interrupts his answers every time and puts words in his mouth. The video needs to be redone for sure
23:37 he says resistance, interviewer interrupts and says adjustment. He's just like an impatient mum trying to predict what he's saying instead of listening and learning
Yes, you are not obliged to speak English anyway, the TH-camr is the most interested in knowing. 👎
Very rare to put a face to the name on such a well known bike and Mr. Daccordi seems to be a genuinely nice guy.
Luigi is a super nice guy. He has watched the Italian bike frame business disappear over time, but despite that remains enthusiastic and dedicated to his craft.
Awesome, shame the interviewer had no idea of the process of building a frame. He had no concept of the level of knowledge of the gentleman whom he was interviewing.
jesus there are some fucking critical keyboard warriors on here who couldn't video or conduct any interview of worth in their life ... , the guy should be commended on taking the time in making this video for us for free that we can look back in the future when Luigi is long gone ....who cares if the interviewer doesn't know some of the finer points of a custom frame that some on here think they might have or that Luigi wants to use his new found talent of English ....great video on where Daccordi is in recent years ...
Could you ask him about fork rake and trail? Thanks!
Campagnolo has just intruduced 12 speed xD
It's no wonder Italians make such good bikes...."its just like plumbing"
Make me sad to see this man, very talented but alone in this big place, like he is the last master and all the knowledge he have will disapear after him.
00:15 With the changes in the bike industry post-COVID,
I imagine your buddy can't keep bikes in stock these days. 😊
Wider tires are not used to compensate for the carbon, it's because lab tests shown that a bigger tire (25c, 28c) have less rolling resistance than 23c, hard to believe but it's true.
Doctors also used to say that smoking was good for you. I think they're full of shit when they say 28c tires are faster. I think the bike builder knows what he's talking about. He has no reason to lie. It seems to me that the bullshit about 28c tires being faster was just a way for the carbon proponents to fix the problem they created.
@@BEEBEE159 i thinka that this does also depends heavely on the weight of the driver, since the pressure in the tire is relatively to the pressure the weight on the bike transfers to it, therefore the contactarea may vary. Since a wider tire holds more air, he can compansate it better, also is his profil designed to use the wider area. I think, within a certain speed, where the drag isn't much of a factor, for example in the hellclimp phase of a race, the wider tire is in the drivers favour, but for the downhill phase, where the drag becomes relevant, the smaller tire is king, since his rotational airdistortion is less.
@@djangoryffel5135 Yes, I agree, there are other factors for choosing wider tires. As you said, if the rider is obese like many riders here in the US, then wider tires are better for supporting the weight of the rider. I use wider tires, 25mm, because it gives my rims extra protection against pot holes and bumps in the road. I like 23mm tires, but my rims get all bent to hell whenever I hit a large bump or pot hole.
Bigger tire have less rolling resistance at the same pressure as the narrower tire. BUT nobody would pump the wider tire to the same pressure as the narrower tire- because the wider tire would be stiffer than the narrower tire at the same pressure!
Muy bueno un artesano
I used to have a Rossin Record, 1980s.. love my new to me 1990s Italian Casati Ellis, with Columbus EL- OS tubes, all Campy.. I have a S Selle Anatomica made in Wisconsin seat and is smooth as butter, fast as lightening ⚡( well as fast as an older guy can ) . However wouldn't mind trying titanium
Carbon fiber , non recyclable junk in land fills. I wonder do humans think about what happens after they make something.
PS I wish him good business and a profitable new year.., but most young guys from what I see are riding carbon from Asia, his family business of steel bike builders may be phasing out.😟 I have heard that just as carbon fiber was coming in they were gonna go to the next generation hydroformed steel , just like aluminum . to bad.. Did not go that route , but even then he would have had to develop that type of business.
I have been riding the same Ciöcc lugged Columbus SLX frame for almost 30 years. (I did spend quite a few miles on an AlAn in there too). Steel is great for general riding and training. It’s race worthy too. I feel the same about carbon plastic frames. I also would consider a Ti frame. Keep riding!
Excellent video,,,,,, get a frame from the masters , (before they go to haven and start building frames there....)
Does anyone know of frame building courses in the Florence area?
Wow we didn’t have 12 speeds on road bikes when this video was recorded 3 years ago. Shimano as always is slow to adopt 12 speed on road bikes. So when
Shimano finally release a 12 speed road groupset. SRAM and Campagnolo will come up with 13 speed. In this never ending arms race.
I believe the industry will never stop adding more gears. Now the we have wider 142x12mm thru-axle, 148x12 boost and 157x12mm super boost hubs standards. That’s plenty more extra space available from the previous 135mm quick release hubs standard.
10 speed is enough
very interesting... where the factory is located please....
Daccordi Cycles, Via Ilaria Alpi, 26/28, 56028 San Miniato PI, Italy
Is this where Mason has their frames made?
👏❤️
that was difficult to watch
Funny how the guy who does the interview doesn't really seem to know much about steel framed bikes, or Daccordi.
❤️👏👏🙏🇧🇷🙏👏👏❤️
Poteva essere un bel video con un vero maestro telaista italiano, peccato che per risparmiarti qualche minuto di editing per mettere i sottotitoli lo hai fatto parlare in inglese, avrebbe potuto dire molte più cose interessanti nella sua lingua...
Today he is going to make a steel frame because this is the material he uses to make frames...caprice?
He should have just spoke Italian to him and had subtitles . You can see he's clearly did not feel comfortable speaking English... But I guess was good practice
ReCycle Spinning, I lived in Italy for 4-years and learned quickly most Italians don't like speaking any language besides their own. They're very proud people, but the non-verbals are sometimes more powerful than what they're saying.
... should have spoken* ...
Jeez..... is he the only one that works there....
No, there are about a dozen people working there besides Mr. Daccordi. This was probably shot on a Sunday.
TUSCANI NO TUSCANY
Slowpoke :)
Nice video. It was interesting to see old methods. However, I would've prefered if there was no conversation, just frame building.
Indeed. There are times when words aren't necessary.
Why a steel frame in 2024 ........
Lost in translation.
It's sad because this is a far superior bicycle. The problem for the bankster theives is that they are permanent. Carbon is just glorified paper machae. Fragile. The weight is only a couple of pounds differance. Without a team car with spares, only the stupid would pay for one.
"A couple of pounds" make a lot (!) of difference*! Riding up a hill on a 7-kg bike is so much faster than on a 10-kg bike - the difference is a mere "couple of" or six metric pounds or 30 %. A hand-crafted steel frame is a wonderful ride, but well-made carbon frame is no paper maché*, but so much lighter stiffer. That's why I ride my steel bike on short-to-medium flat rounds and my carbon one for long, hilly tours and sportifs. You don't need to be a "bankster thieve*" to appreciate the advancements in material technology.
This interview felt like teeth being pulled. If YOU cannot speak with the man in his native tongue, bring along someone who can! What this interviewer knows about custom bike frames can written on my thumbnail.
Sucks he's got to be the one that has to close down the business because everything's going carbon fiber...
Daccordi has always been a small-batch boutique brand. They can perfectly make a living on the few who still lust for made-to-measure artisanal steel frames.
fallo parlare in italiano e traduci lo no?
This chump is going about it all wrong. He has no clue. Dude, have your bikes made in China or Cambodia and only in "superior" plastic (carbon), never inferior steel, prefab'd with Sh&tmano. That's what it's ALL about these days.................
i got headache with the english..
He would probably say the same about your Italian. But, you're not wrong. In fact they should have conducted the Interview in Italian and subtitled it, just for the sake of speed and fluency.
why do people make videos with a camera pointing up at their nose.....its grotesque....i guess people like it
English is a joke