Does Gen 8 OU Deserve the Hate? - Road to #1

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  • @jimothygaming
    @jimothygaming  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    jimothycool.com
    2 MORE DAYS for Horse Council Merch!

  • @beebobber546
    @beebobber546 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +365

    Gen 4 OU single handily changed Jim’s goals in life and now sent him on a quest down the roads of new OU meta games….

    • @CarloVaccariPlus
      @CarloVaccariPlus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      A lot of content lined up.

    • @dandan4092
      @dandan4092 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Endless_Titan No, it is.

  • @ggFreeFall
    @ggFreeFall 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +399

    Gen 8 without Muk is like a week without a Monday.

    • @sleb1807
      @sleb1807 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      God I wish😂

    • @dandan4092
      @dandan4092 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That’s no bad thing though. Monday is the most hated of days

    • @kiruoful
      @kiruoful 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sleb1807 For real 😂

    • @JaWick_WitaStick
      @JaWick_WitaStick 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So a good thing?

    • @peternicholas3719
      @peternicholas3719 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These ad libs go crazy 😂

  • @wizardwithanaxe
    @wizardwithanaxe 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +225

    Local Jim so scarred by the state of Gen 4 OU that he's branched out into other, previously disliked metagames because it can't be worse than gen 4 can it. This is insane.

    • @OverloadedDragon
      @OverloadedDragon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      and he seemed to actually have a little bit of fun, completely unlike the hell that is dpp

  • @pinkacross2042
    @pinkacross2042 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    Dracozolt outside of sand is NOT good in gen 8. The good news is, since there's no Gliscor in gen 8, you can run Substitute, Bolt Beak, Draco, Flamethrower on sand, and it's pretty solid. If you're looking for a breaker that hits everything, I'd recommend Crawdaunt (as you said), Specs Download Porygon-Z, Diggersby, Specs Tapu Lele, and Specs Nihilego with Knock Off. Good luck on your gen 8 journey! :D

    • @usernametaken017
      @usernametaken017 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      holy shit it's that one person

  • @griffingeving9792
    @griffingeving9792 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +132

    Dracozoltcif has broken into my home and swiftly used “bolt beak” and dealt double damage against me, thanks to my low speed stat. I am now watching this funny TH-cam video from the ICU. This is insane.

  • @PapaJefeYT
    @PapaJefeYT 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +105

    Some have said Dracozolt deserves membership on the horse council. Much like the divisive Magcargo, he learns the move High Horsepower. There is a movement forming folks. The people are talking.

  • @Steltunes
    @Steltunes 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    Great to see you trying out some different formats Jim! You should try gen 4 next, I hear its a pretty fun and engaging format

  • @blargghkip
    @blargghkip 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

    Jimothy Gaming proudly displays his canine companion on his Pokemon Showdown homepage, proving that while every dog has its day, some dogs have every day.

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      that's entei's day

    • @graylyhen9490
      @graylyhen9490 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Gem

  • @qwert1043
    @qwert1043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +102

    Gen 8 is the most swag format because it has the most Reverend videos. No other metric matters

    • @chungusbick
      @chungusbick 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      I miss Pretty Good Teams

    • @kardar233
      @kardar233 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      This is incredibly true

    • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
      @Cosplaybuddygiraffes 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      RIP to Cinderace in OU bc the Work Up/Electro Ball set to bait in Toxapex and Slowbro was the funniest shit I’ve ever seen in my life

    • @A_quip
      @A_quip 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Cosplaybuddygiraffes
      REAL ASF THAT IS SUCH A BANGER VIDEO

  • @kingvegeta7868
    @kingvegeta7868 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    I cant wait for this series after what happened with gen 4

  • @ShakerSilver
    @ShakerSilver 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Gets a crit and types the most disrespectful pre-emptive "gg" in chat.
    This is categorically insane.

    • @rajkanishu
      @rajkanishu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      a crit after two decisive 66% rolls failed from the opponent lol

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Average mid-ladder resident interaction. It's kind of funny in the low ladder since it doesn't matter, and good players don't bother with being toxic like that usually. It's just the petty trolls in the mid-ladder that don't understand probabilities. Some gamers really suck.

    • @toolofthelord
      @toolofthelord 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@melikmourali2072this is why i usually ignore opponents when i play them. nothing more loathsome than some jeering teenager.

  • @diamonddudeygo
    @diamonddudeygo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    "An elite ranking of 1337" I know what you are

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      big fan

  • @ramuk241
    @ramuk241 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    It started with Gen 4, next it was Gen 8.
    Next stop is Gen 16 folks.

    • @Deerifius
      @Deerifius 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      What about gen 12, maybe it's +4 instead of •2

    • @PastPerspectives11
      @PastPerspectives11 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Deerifius what if it’s really Gen 16 sqrt{2} because he has been exponentiating by 3/2

  • @BillytheCorgi
    @BillytheCorgi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Gen 8 has 1 advantage over every single generation. It introduced the world to Yamper, the single greatest addition to the world of competitive Pokémon thanks to his founding of the corgi counsel.

    • @rajkanishu
      @rajkanishu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yamper can't be a corgi, it's ugly as sin

  • @jake9107
    @jake9107 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Jimothy's meteoric rise in the Gen 8 OU meta game will surely be a moment to be studied by historians and scholars alike

  • @M015T_
    @M015T_ 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

    Lose to Gyarados in 10 turns or lose to Toxapex in 100? This is a moral dilemma folks

    • @Snagavitch
      @Snagavitch 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      At least when you lose to pex you can just add any tapu lele to the team builder and now your team has an incredible matchup into every balance core it’s on

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Gen 4 has upended all of Jimothy's settled knowledge and thrown everything up in the air. Now he's forced to reevaluate his biases. This is insane.

  • @Snagavitch
    @Snagavitch 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    If you end up learning the tier I really think you will enjoy it. The current ladder challenge has seen offense skyrocket in usage. I would check out any of those teams if people have made smogon posts on it!

  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Also my favorite check to Melmetal was defense invested Rocky Helmet Ferrothorn. The joy of watching it Double Iron Bash itself to death lives in my heart

  • @dillonjj3
    @dillonjj3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    “Gen 8 is very slow paced”
    First mono stall team gets absolutely bullied by choice hurricanes. You love to see it

    • @somebodyuknow2507
      @somebodyuknow2507 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      Wasn’t stall, was fat balance. Which is to be fair the most annoying style in gen 8, since it’s not as passive and has more regenerator + pivoting than the hard stalls

    • @LoDart210
      @LoDart210 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ⁠@@somebodyuknow2507something about gen 8 drives people mad.
      These “fat balance” teams are pretty much stalling and chipping away at you. Yet for some reason people don’t call it stall. It’s a unique thing I’ve noticed about people who like gen 8.
      Its like they refuse to acknowledge that stall + a breaker or sweeper is a prominent, if not the most prominent, playstyle of gen 8.
      “fat balance”….what does that even mean? Balance teams already have an element of sturdiness to them built into the understanding of the playstyle just by using the word “balance”. They tend to have two to three defensive mons and/or a pivot and some strong offensive options.
      This is not balance and I don’t understand what adding “fat” to the beginning changes. This playstyle is about stalling. There’s just minor differences that make it look different from classic stalling strategies from previous gens but mechanically it’s the same.

    • @balancemaster55
      @balancemaster55 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ⁠@@LoDart210stall means different things, by default people mean a play style where you use stalling tactics like toxic, draining the opponents pp by not letting them make any progress, sometimes spikes. While I think the first team was stall it isn’t completely conventional stall so some people might call it something else.
      I think the first team was stall cause a stall breaker would completely break the team.

    • @balancemaster55
      @balancemaster55 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@somebodyuknow2507 regen pivoting is part of stall, you’re focusing on draining the opponents pp. A balance team would be more aggressive.

    • @somebodyuknow2507
      @somebodyuknow2507 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@LoDart210 The difference is in the team’s goals. A stall team has all 6 mons in its defensive core. It cannot break. The key difference with semi stall and fat balance is that they arent trying to last forever. They are trying to last long enough to set up a situation where their breakers can do their jobs. We didn’t get to see the clefable and dragonite sets in the game. It’s possible they were fully walling sets with heal bell dragonite, but that structure doesn’t make much sense without blissey. It’s more likely some calm mind unaware clef and dragon dance dragonite - breakers/cleaners.
      TLDR: Stalls dedicate every team slot to walling or defensive utility. Balances trade full defensive immovability for some ability to be proactive. Without seeing the sets of the clefable and dragonite I’m not sure what the team in the vid falls into

  • @jonathanmorrison112
    @jonathanmorrison112 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    patiently waiting for the rematch against earl5000

    • @LeapyLad
      @LeapyLad 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      What are earl5000's views on the decision making within the gen 8 OU tier

  • @echo5172
    @echo5172 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    “It appears as if hurricane hits the entire planet”
    Jim predicted global warming

  • @hippoboii3401
    @hippoboii3401 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    as someone who sucks at every gen in competitive pokemon I love this series of videos and thank you for providing insight in this meta games.

  • @HoChiPro
    @HoChiPro 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Gen 4 is a life changing metagame, for better or for worse

  • @Loris71734
    @Loris71734 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    I really think a lot of people's opinion of gen 8 is effected by the tiering hell it was in for so long. There was always bullshit like Dracovish, Dugtrio, Urshifu, Kyurem, Cinderace, etc. for a long time, and before all the DLCs were released some things would get banned, reintroduced, and then banned again. After the last ban of Kyurem the tier has been fantastic, imo.

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      And probably stall or slow balance at its strongest if you ignore Gen 7 pre mega sableye ban
      But other than that, it’s extremely balanced, that it may come across as ‘bland’ for some people

    • @rajkanishu
      @rajkanishu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I don't think it's as much of a problem with the tier itself rather the fact that most of the new stuff ended up either getting banned or terrible and unusable thus making the tier bland and empty, like dynamax and most of the new mons

    • @C3l3bi1
      @C3l3bi1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      no its just effing boring, bulky balance is way too good and it makes games last a stupid amount of turns.

    • @C3l3bi1
      @C3l3bi1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@陳嘉宇-y4q "But other than that, it’s extremely balanced,"^¨
      NO it is not EXTREMELY balanced. Lando is on all teams and u see the same 3-4 mons on every teams because regenerator spam is broken.

    • @danyg0000
      @danyg0000 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@C3l3bi1Lando being used commonly doesn't mean it isn't balanced. Would you say ADV is unbalanced because Skarm and Tar are uncommon? And no if you really play the Gen 8 OU a lot you wont see the same mons on every team. Sure there are many mons thst get used often but there are a variety if different playstyles that are viable. Bulky offense/ balance, Rain, Sand, Hail, Grassy Terrain teams, Stall, even sun. These all use a variety of different mons (your unlikely to see Lando on rain or Stall). Like obviously there are going to be dominant strategies but saying that the tier is all "insert popular team style" is like saying ADV is all SkarmBliss teams. Also the top 5 mons in SS aren't even regen mons.

  • @Nuskadamo
    @Nuskadamo 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    Not a gen 8 expert or anything, but boots + no generational gimmick + an OU scene that's fairly low in power level makes this a really cozy meta

    • @WeeyumEdits
      @WeeyumEdits 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      did they remove dynamax?

    • @kingpig8732
      @kingpig8732 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@WeeyumEditsyeah they banned it and good riddance

    • @larseunic
      @larseunic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      People complain about boots, I really like them personally. Hasard can be BS. Whole mons being unplayable because of rocks made me really sad too, as a moltres enjoyer.

    • @thebestworst8002
      @thebestworst8002 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WeeyumEditsa month after the game released

    • @Sunodasuto
      @Sunodasuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Overall it just seems rather boring though. I feel like I should like it for the reasons you listed, I just don't.

  • @mondooowada3537
    @mondooowada3537 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Gary Xavier Edwards will be watching your career with much interest...

  • @thomaskummer4857
    @thomaskummer4857 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gen 8 is the oppressive offense checks oppressive defense that people think Gen 4 is. Happy Jim finally giving it the exposure it deserves

  • @WmnRspctr
    @WmnRspctr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Me a fan: I'm in the stands cheering and screeching for you. I also just want to say I think you are amazing at what you do. You're incredible.

  • @zacksavoia9895
    @zacksavoia9895 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Gen 8 is pretty balanced I think, but man is it not fun to fight 2-3 regen mons with boots on every team.

  • @thebossbaby5763
    @thebossbaby5763 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Few will understand the thumbnail reference. Mudasir is a true friend

  • @ketaminefanatic7755
    @ketaminefanatic7755 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Surely a Muk Monday will lead to a Tyranocif Tuesday gracing my inbox?

  • @DkKobaADV
    @DkKobaADV 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    this is machamp's fault somehow.

  • @sam3oq980
    @sam3oq980 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    35:00 I'd like to present a reason to preserve Dracozolt there. If Lele is out of the way, Magnezone is irrelevant as long as you have Landorus. Then Dracozolt can just click buttons against everything else and destroy things.
    Edit: that game also shows why you would have benefited from hazards on your team. With Rocks up, Lele would not have been able to come in so much and threaten KOs, and Buzzwole would have taken much more chip damage that Landorus could have taken advantage of.

  • @AngryAyrab
    @AngryAyrab 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    These games weren’t too bad. I think you should still make rocks even if boots are prevalent. It makes it easier to make tons of progress in the late game.

    • @sam3oq980
      @sam3oq980 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Exactly. Gastrodon would have been 2HKOd by Dracozolt in the first game and Torkoal wouldn't have been able to switch in again vs the sun team. Specs Lele would have also been pressured more.

  • @_Crowuh
    @_Crowuh 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Will you make a revised ranking when you've gone through all of the OU tiers?

    • @Zwijger
      @Zwijger 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      He should, as that one would actually be based on his own experience.

  • @smit_sumitzu
    @smit_sumitzu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    strap in for Jimothy's World Tour

  • @NineConsonants
    @NineConsonants 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Jimothy, have you ever merely considered foreseeing what the opponent would do every time with your gift of providence, and simply countering it? It is what many people have said is the best thing to do.

  • @BigPeon
    @BigPeon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is an incredible arc. Thanks Gen 4, you've opened Jim's eyes

  • @derekgunnels4856
    @derekgunnels4856 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Didn't realize ferrothorn was on top in Gen 8. Love to see that legend again.

  • @HighMightyWeasel
    @HighMightyWeasel 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    run Specs Tapu Lele with psyshock. It breaks everything and Blissey will never be a problem again

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tapu Lele is the nuke in Gen 8, I don’t remember anything that little bastard can’t THKO through

  • @edoardocaccia6226
    @edoardocaccia6226 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gen 4 proved to be so bad that he started questioning all of his choices, I can't handle this 😭

  • @ThatOneGuy8305
    @ThatOneGuy8305 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The madman is doing it he's broken Gen 3 containment the other formats are at risk of being Muk Monday'd

  • @jettbrandes2051
    @jettbrandes2051 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Was your Gale of Darkness play through streamed? Is it watchable somewhere?

  • @deli_9697
    @deli_9697 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I am actually a big fan of playing gen 8, i love absolute slogs

  • @ceumadorgas9407
    @ceumadorgas9407 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The irony of having named your account gen 8 Brian in the exact gen the notorious move HP Brian got removed.

  • @kevinrianfromgarou
    @kevinrianfromgarou 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    commenting for the algorythm and to say im so happy about this series, hope you will check out other gens aswell in the future but im here for the gen 8 ride, lets learn it together

  • @Psynapseful
    @Psynapseful 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    12:17 it's Kidgambit!

  • @brunooli4800
    @brunooli4800 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    once my goat achieves his number 1 position in the leaderboard everyone will be forced to address jim as HIMothy Cool as he is HIM

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hidden Power Brian would aid in this endeavour.

  • @leoambard3134
    @leoambard3134 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    gen 8 is good. its very slow paced, but balanced. it plays similar to gen 2 in my opinion due to the lack of passive damage and the options one has for offense and stall.

    • @keebs5780
      @keebs5780 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      preliminary viewing (as someone inexperienced with gen 8) it seems a lot more engaging than gen 2. gen 2 snorlax being simultaneously considered the best OU mon and the best Ubers mon is wild like why even have an ubers tier then lmao

    • @C3l3bi1
      @C3l3bi1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      "balanaced"
      when the same 3-2 regen mons on everyteam is hardly what anyone would call balance

  • @traax2719
    @traax2719 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really good showing. Nice to see you having fun in a format you disliked in the past. That King cobra tai guy played really well though.

  • @FromMan2Monkey
    @FromMan2Monkey 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Why Primarina over Fini? Idk a lot about this gen but I know Fini is used more than Prim. Is it because of Flip Turn?

    • @maralli6940
      @maralli6940 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes, primarina is used as a pivot on this team and flip turn helps in that role allowing it to pivot on switches or into slow pokemon taking advantage of primarina's base 60 speed

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Probably influenced by Gen 9, but Prima is better than Fini as a neutral pivot

  • @triviszla1536
    @triviszla1536 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Toxapex is kind of a bastard" -jimothy

  • @shadowsnake94
    @shadowsnake94 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gen 8 feels very fair but the low amount of top tier Galar mons and the banning of Dynamax does make it bereft of identity. Looking forward to see if Jim gets more out of it in the end

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The issue is that having an identity these days means having an overpowered gimmick that will ruin how people play it and adapt to it. Dynamax is an obvious game changer, but so is Tera and people thought it was a fine addition. Now people flock to lower-leveled Gen 9 metagames, Gen 9 metagames without Tera, and Gen 3. Yes, it’s not like Gen 9 OU is unpopular, but it is not the juggernaut it once was.

  • @Vuietnam
    @Vuietnam 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for your consistent content

  • @Pishooter
    @Pishooter 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a suggest: how high you can ladder in gen 3 with a mono hoenn team without losing?

  • @demoflower3583
    @demoflower3583 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Gen 8 feels like ORAS without the megas and boots running around, similar sort of power level. The big problem I have with this meta is dragapult being really annoying to deal with but other than that its okay. Definitely not my least favourite but not really a meta I miss a whole lot.

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The removal of Pursuit and GF starting to make fast ghost types

  • @lenk1432
    @lenk1432 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Gen 7 was peak, it's like mw2, everything was op

  • @ashejohnson816
    @ashejohnson816 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i really didn't like gen 8 as a gen 7 enjoyer, but there was one team blimax made with arcozolt that would clear the way for specs regileki and that team was so fun.

  • @graylyhen9490
    @graylyhen9490 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jim is going through a time travel arc just to bury the guilt he feels for running from DPPt OU

  • @moke23
    @moke23 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Jim your thumbnail game is elite recently

  • @emmetth3726
    @emmetth3726 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Next episode: Crustacean Conquest

  • @michaelh1408
    @michaelh1408 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Melvin Metal has joined the ranks of the short kings.

  • @subtodicerat8305
    @subtodicerat8305 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Brian Videogames / You won't see it.

  • @Angel-L
    @Angel-L 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There's a distinct lack of cifs in this format, I imagine this is why Jim previously had it as his least favourite

  • @redtaileddolphin1875
    @redtaileddolphin1875 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Knowing Smogon’s past I’m not surprised they call gen 8 SS

    • @FromMan2Monkey
      @FromMan2Monkey 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      was smogon created by a
      nat-c? crazy lore drop for me

    • @EndingNote111
      @EndingNote111 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@FromMan2MonkeyWhy do you think there's a tier called nat-dex? '-'

  • @joshuaso4644
    @joshuaso4644 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not related, but have you played the SMT games? Another monster collecting jrpg while not as deep or complex as Pokemon still has many neat interactions and strategies to consider in battle that I feel like you would really like.

    • @jimothygaming
      @jimothygaming  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Playing through Nocturne currently

  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Gen 8 was very fun for me because I prefer a more defensive play style. There are a lot of good tools to team build and a lot of different viable play styles. To me, it felt like it handled balance and diversity well.

  • @internetguy7319
    @internetguy7319 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Gen 8 OU is just modern Gen 3 OU. To match the powercreep, there's an extra layer to the chip strat of knocking targets' boots -> then ramping up the hazards, slowing the meta to similar levels. Due to the slowness, many lower tiered Pokemon are very viable, and on the flipside the tier is just not very centralized.
    Anyone who complains about "Regen Spam" also hasn't watched a game of modern SWSH tournament play lmao, HO is one of the more common playstyles next to BO/Balance, the few good stall teams are nowhere near dominant, just generally very balanced.

  • @chess_fella
    @chess_fella 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t. I’ll never know, because I only play Gen 3.

  • @melikmourali2072
    @melikmourali2072 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    36:12 These are the players that make me regret typing "gl hf" at the beginning of a match.

  • @ryankeathley995
    @ryankeathley995 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    very astute vocab in this one Jim

  • @dumass.404
    @dumass.404 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Day 1 of requesting the valiant return of shedinja in gen 8 (I'll include a sample team below)

    • @dumass.404
      @dumass.404 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Granda Max (Xatu) (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Magic Bounce
      EVs: 252 HP / 236 SpD / 20 Spe
      Timid Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Roost
      - Thunder Wave
      - Night Shade
      - Toxic
      Dead inside (Shedinja) @ Safety Goggles
      Ability: Wonder Guard
      EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
      Adamant Nature
      - Toxic
      - Poltergeist
      - Will-O-Wisp
      - Gust
      Metaknight (Corviknight) (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Pressure
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spe
      Bold Nature
      - U-turn
      - Roost
      - Body Press
      - Defog
      Pivot purple water (Toxapex) (F) @ Rocky Helmet
      Ability: Regenerator
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
      Bold Nature
      - Light Screen
      - Recover
      - Knock Off
      - Scald
      Hot girl things (Chansey) (F) @ Eviolite
      Ability: Natural Cure
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
      Bold Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Stealth Rock
      - Soft-Boiled
      - Toxic
      - Seismic Toss
      Twinkerbell (Clefable) (M) @ Leftovers
      Ability: Unaware
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
      Bold Nature
      IVs: 0 Atk
      - Flamethrower
      - Aromatherapy
      - Moonblast
      - Soft-Boiled

  • @PKfuzzy
    @PKfuzzy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maplestory music and melee references, this is the best channel

  • @soapy5613
    @soapy5613 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Jim, I have some teams for you to try out for Gen 8. Where can I send them to you?

  • @MaxxaM955
    @MaxxaM955 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hope you continue videos like these playing all the gens :)

  • @Varatho
    @Varatho 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You know, I always wondered why the calculator was a totally different tab, it would be great for newer players if it was more integrated into the primary client.

  • @orkiporki8895
    @orkiporki8895 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    10:14 I think you meant your favorite Cif?

  • @flugelchannel237
    @flugelchannel237 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ah yes, Gale of Darkness from Breaking Bad

  • @galvanicgem2376
    @galvanicgem2376 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What makes gastradon siv what does this mean

  • @emilackroyd1698
    @emilackroyd1698 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dracozolt really needs either sand support or Hustle to work if your team is sandless; Scarf Hustle is statistically inferior as well as luck-based, but definitely an easy set to use. Pivot, switch into something you're faster than, and go burr. Can KO almost anything with good prediction except none of your moves are free or without risk.

  • @noko_9796
    @noko_9796 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On hail in this gen I run mixed grassy glide abomasnow with rillaboom and it can be pretty fun

  • @Peter-wy1rg
    @Peter-wy1rg 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So hyped for this!

  • @sam3oq980
    @sam3oq980 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:33 I think your team actually could have benefited from hazards. In the previous game one layer of hazards would have guaranteed the 2HKO against Gastrodon with Dracozolt's Dragon Claw. Not everything runs boots and that little bit of extra chip can turn 3HKOs into 2HKOs. Against offense especially having rocks up gives you a ton of value. It limits e.g. CB Barraskewda's switch in opportunities and in the second game Torkoal would not have been able to get the Sun up again.

  • @iamnotjcook
    @iamnotjcook 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Verbally stimming Mama Liz's chili oil straight to my heart

  • @larseunic
    @larseunic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've had a lot of fun few years ago in Gen 8, I went as high as 1600, no further, so probably the TP/regenerator/Fsight meta is too annoying higher in the ladder, I couldn't tell you.

    • @larseunic
      @larseunic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hated the Tapus BTW, they're assholes.

  • @ramonaaa666
    @ramonaaa666 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    who hates on swsh ou? its the best metagame we ever had. Or at least the most balanced

  • @nullgator8073
    @nullgator8073 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a certified moltress Monday

  • @yvendous
    @yvendous 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am tuned in for Reasonable Jim's Balanced-view extravaganza

  • @blazie42069
    @blazie42069 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Short answer no, modern gen 8 OU is a really fun and varied tier where a lot is viable, kinda like gen 3 in that way
    Also if you hate blissey just run Buzzwole or mixed pult maybe?

  • @Xzqwerty2324zX
    @Xzqwerty2324zX 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As if the entire planet was ran through by a hurrican

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Inb4 Jim loves dynamax

  • @joepoole7807
    @joepoole7807 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Specs molt terrifies me, 2 pepples floating on your side kills him

  • @romablumen1080
    @romablumen1080 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They say a hurricane will do it.

  • @Nick-yl4qp
    @Nick-yl4qp 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've always thought gen 8 was the most fair of the later gens. I hate Z moves. I love megas but it sucks that they're limited to certain mons. I don't care for Tera. But I really enjoy gen 8. I played a looot of randoms. About 700 games. Got about 1450 elo if I remember correctly

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    please do gen nat dex ou instead

  • @shrooberto
    @shrooberto 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Glad gen 4 hell made Jimothy discover enlightenment (that Jirachi is cancer).

  • @llorencalbons4803
    @llorencalbons4803 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is spectacular folks.