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@@thebeatclinic9000 I feel like they could have tuned up the existing heads to compare to the new ones though... Not that this kit even resembled the one he bought in the end...
@@ballsrgrossnugly the problem with that is those cheap stock children's drum set heads weren't meant to be tuned like an adult drum set is, they aren't REAL drum heads, they're essentially just really strong paper, strong enough to withstand a child's strokes but not an adults, the heads probably would have split in half
The literal translation is "it sounds like something you should never play" - and really, it puts off new players when EVERYTHING they do sounds ugly af
Set a few folds of toilet paper on various size coffee cans. Use aluminum baking pans for cymbals and any metallic thing of your choosing for a hi hat…oh and stomp the floor in a pair of worn construction boots. That’s what any kids kit sounds like. Trust me, I still play my kid’s kids’ kit cause I’m broke..
We wanted to see if we could make a childs kit sound good so we went out and bought a child's kit, then we replaced everything on it invoking the ship of Theseus, and now it sounds great!
EXACTLY. I got a Ludwig Jr kit for $200, and didn't REPLACE jack. I just TWEAKED what it already had. (I reduced, mostly: ditched the adorablefloor tom, the cymbal stands, the reso heads and rims [my goal was to make it as minimal and light and quiet and tight as possible, to play outdoors]. I cable-tied two DRUMSTICKS to the mounted toms, as Cymbal Stands (!) and did add a Dollar Tree Plastic Vase ("cowbell") via cable-ties. It was ugly black so I took GOLD holographic ductape ($1!) and cut it into diamonds and afixed on all the shells. I taped the heads a bit too with this cool trippy tape to mute stuff, and my kit sounds INCREDIBLE. I added a couple small cymbals too. I really dislike waste, as well. I never ever break guitar strings, and I never break drumsticks or drumheads! I may be the lightest-touch drummer on earth, b/c i practice outdoors using rods.
That’s like saying it’s the ship of Theseus if you replace the strings on a guitar. They just added their own cymbals and tom, replaced the heads and that’s it, kit was still used just different heads. Which is the same as changing the strings on a guitar. Maybe you didn’t really understand the Ship of Theseus cause this is not that at all
@@deanmoncaster Yes, but the joke doesn't really work, because it's *normal* to change heads and snares, and swap out the stock cymbals. It's like if they replaced nothing on Theseus' ship but the ropes and the sails.
But what's the fun of it if you put (semi) expensive first-brand drumheads and symbals? Even I (a noob) can make it sound good with all those good heads and cymbals :/
@@mariadalmasetto9642, well, putting cheap or worn out heads on drums, either baby kit or studio kit, will not make them sound better or make this comparison more fair. The thing is that when you have equal drumheads and cymbals on both drumkits - you can hear the difference between shell size, woods and furniture on those two drumkits. Quality of all this stuff makes great influence on drum sound also.
@@casperdewith Nonono, his hits force the period of the oscillation and his hits to synchronize. Causing resonance and an increasingly larger movement (higher amplitude, but same frequency).
@@casperdewith Resonance is any phenomenon which has an oscillation with an increasing amplitude due to an interaction in a precise moment. A swing an a toddler is a good example of resonance, but I don't know how a kid would react if you started pushing him at a precise tempo no matter where he is in his swing journey (well, he'd be annoyed, to start). Would his swings synchronize to (a reciprocal of a power of two of) your pushes eventually? Or is it just a coincidence what happens in the video? Check this video to see where I got this idea from: th-cam.com/video/T58lGKREubo/w-d-xo.html (Dunnow if I'm just wrong thoxD)
As my father used to say: "It's not the tool, it's the operator." After a few 'adjustments' he made the new thing he built sound good. It would have been interesting to have heard him play the thing as it was delivered.
@@YeOldeKamikaze It's not the same kit as it is! This video is a complete joke! The answer is "no, but you can get a better kit and add the good parts of the kid's kit to it"
The point is that you can make the shittiest kit actually useable with quality heads and good tuning. Plus triggering the drums could add to the fun. Yeah, you're not gonna use it for a 120 date tour with Sting but busking/open-mic/pub gig, maybe you could. I'm not including cymbals in this because, come on, those brass disc things aren't cymbals.
@@JonnyJayJonson Considering I got a 5 piece with (shitty) cymbals and some spare brushes etc for AU$50 a few weeks back, I don't see any reason to get a kid's set in the first place! Put those good heads and cymbals on an already adult sized kit!
Brilliant. Really made me smile, my little lad would love that, have to sit him on my knee at the moment. Let some youngster have it they’ll love it 👍👍👍👍
I know a guy, Tony Dale, he plays on a little Pac-D (Sakae) and gigs with a 644.00 kit (shells, pedals, AND hardware)...I have one identical to his. If you see one grab it, they're going out of business. Which is too bad, they make a nice lil kit. They made the cocktails for Yamaha.
How does changing the heads compare to replacing the drums? That's tantamount to saying replacing the strings on a guitar is the same as replacing the whole guitar. Have you ever touched a drum set in your life?
kekag I mean but if u used a like cotton drum head or someshit and replaced it with a mesh one it will make a difference. It’s really makes the difference so its essentially the same thing. Changing guitar strings is like changing the drum sticks
@@tomj2064 First of all, pretty sure cotton drumheads don't exist unless you're referring to animal hides. Secondly, obviously changing styles of drumheads like going from mylar to mesh is going to make a difference, but so is changing from 14 guage metal strings to nylon strings on a guitar. Also, drumsticks hardly make a difference sound-wise in the context of the whole kit. Unless you're playing on a practice pad, it's very hard to hear the different unless it's drastic like going from a 7a birch to 3s oak stick. Drumsticks are way closer to guitar picks in that sense.
kekag i know cotton drum heads don’t exist, just decided to use it since I couldn’t think of anything else. That’s y I said “or someshit”. And guitar picks is just for personal preference, that’s y some ppl don’t even use them. Drumstick tips made of wood gives a warmer sound, and nylon tips a more harder brighter sound. Just like guitar strings, where different materials make a difference.
Ignore everyone else because they’re supposed to align to you not the other way around and when people in bands try to turn it around there’s usually issues
Goes to show that heads + proper tuning are responsible for 90% or more of the sound you will hear from your drums. Growing up I always played entry level kits, but would immediately swap out the stock heads for quality Evans, Remo or Aquarian. A few years ago I had enough saved to buy any kit I wanted. I looked at DW Collector's Series, but ultimately decided they were not worth the price and went with PDP Concept Maple for a fraction of the cost. Despite what John Good says about lining up the grain patterns and everything else to get you to spend $4000 or more on a shell pack, it's not worth it. My PDP Concept Maple set has Evans G2 batter and Evans G2 reso on the toms with Evans emad 2 on the kick. I've compared the sound of my kit to a friends's Collector's Series and in a live setting, there is no difference. Sure, in a studio with $7,000 Neumann mics you may be able to hear a slight difference, but rehearsing with your band or playing live, you will not hear it. I have recently setup a home studio with Shure, AKG and MXL mics and the drums sound great on my recordings. Save your money for quality heads and learn how to tune and you can make any kit, even a kid's set or the cheapest used kit sound good.
maprow at that point you’re buying something (DW Collectors) as a reward perhaps for reaching a milestone or for the recording situation like you mentioned. Also the quality of build in terms or craftsmanship, parts, longevity and stability tend to be greater on premium kits because although they might sound similar you’re paying for more durable and robust parts.
The price I would personally stop at is about $2,800 for something like a Tama B/B kit, and then order the additional drums I want later. If you start on a good kit with great heads, hardware and awesome cymbals you can never go wrong. DW, to me, is like the Gibson of drums. Overpriced for what you get. But I understand why people like them.
@@MetalxMasters Tama makes some stunningly nice sounding drums for not much $$$. I was given a 71 Imperialstar for free. Suck the filth out w ShopVac and clean it. Hydraulic head hides cheaper drum oddities and I actually like it as much as my 26 Ludwig Vistalite. Maybe more. Sound is more "focused." jmo. With the Martini kit and nice cymbals, well, why move $4,500 and 500lbs of drums if you don't have to? Make their doofy kick.a low tom.
Bummer, it is like you cheated. I was hoping to see if you could take what came in the shipment and make that sound good, spending zero extra dollars. What could you have done with the original kid-kit to maximize its sound quality? It would have been a cool lesson on making the best of what you got, something most starting drummers could stand to see/hear. 😕
You can tune crappy stock heads til the cows come home and they're gonna sound crappy. Flipping out heads, which is routine maintenance like changing guitar strings, and making good, complementary choices can make even a cheapo kit sound passable.
Ehh id say maybe the adoption center or something similar, i personally wouldn't want to hear red hot chili peppers while hearing my child get diagnosed😂
It would make more sense to use whatever money these videos made to buy *new* kids' kits for children's hospitals. The kids aren't going to appreciate some beat-up old kit with mismatched cymbals and expensive heads, even if they sound much better.
My very first drum set was a 'kid's set': a Remco 'Liverpool Compact' three-piece kit with a 12" snare drum, a 10" rack tom, and 16" bass drum. And it had a 10" gold-colored sheet metal cymbal. It was in blue color paper wrap around the drums with plastic hoops. I believe the shells were pressed paperboard of some kind. The thing is; the batter heads were Remo coated plastic heads and were fully tunable. The snare drum had snare wires on the resonant head. The bass drum batter head was a tunable plastic head and the reso side 'head' was some kind of paperboard. That was the kit that got me started and as I recall they actually sounded pretty good for a cheap 'kids set'. I received it for a Christmas present when I was 12 years old and I was thrilled to get it after begging for a drum set after I saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show. I have fond memories of jamming in the basement with neighborhood kids..learned to play 'Wipe Out' on that kit started me on the road to a lifetime of fascination with drumming. The Remco 'Liverpool Compact' kit was a step up from the usual 'kids sets' of the time as it had actual tunable batter heads it was quite fun to play.
Hi Rdavidr, my nephew just gave me away his junior kit, and what I can say is Less Is More, this kit become my portable kit. Your videos are very inspiring and very informative. Love your channel. 😀
Amazing what a difference the heads and a better snare make. And I love the sound of that hat! It would have been interesting to hear you play the kit as it came for comparison
@@JonnyJayJonson New heads I can give them, but they also added an extra tom and completely replaced all of the cymbals! Those alone would have been upwards of 5 or 600 bucks for zildjan! So, no, "some diy" doesn't cut it, buddy. That's the big deal!
@@ballsrgrossnugly you can't take those brass things that a music shop has the nerve to call 'cymbals' seriously. Anyway, that's separate to making the actual drums sound good. And if they added a tom, so what? Doesn't mean you have to in the same situation.
@@JonnyJayJonson Just saying, defeats the purpose of getting a kids kit in the first place. The fix should have been to tune it up and put as much DIY chains etc on the cymbals to make them sound as better as they could be. This isn't making a kid's kit sound good, it's putting the wooden parts FROM a kid's kit into a more expensive one.
@@JonnyJayJonson And I believe the cymbals were part of a drum kit last I checked? I don't see the title saying "make the snare tom and kick sound better by spending money on them" or anything like that. This video is useless clickbait shit.
It’s than not then. I hate to correct you like that, but I see this mistake so much I couldn’t help myself this time. Not trying to be a duche, but I’m just educating a bit. No, hate just love my man!
@@witchblades6979 What about the $500 worth of cymbals or the $200 extra floor tom? I feel like everyone defending this one is just glossing over the fact that it's not the same kit by the end, and us plebs that don't have $500 of zildjan cymbals and extra toms lying around can just suck it!
@@ballsrgrossnugly No new drummer should be shopping childrens drum sets. That should go without saying. This isn't a video to show you how to make a childs kit work. It was a fun challenge for them. There is no magic $50 drum kit for new drummers that will also sound amazing, it doesn't exist. You get a cheap used set inside your budget and you rebuild it over time, new heads, pick up a cymbal here and there, replace hardware and eventually you have a nice kit. Heads are the cheapest and best way to give a kit a makeover though. Shop used, kits, cymbals, and hardware are all fine used when in decent shape. Don't even bother looking at new if you want the best bang for your buck.
@@BLTspace Since when did I imply that kids drum sets are a good idea for a starting drummer? I'm sorry, if you want to make shit up and imply that it was my idea, you should join the Catholics, they seem to be good at projection. As I stated in reply to your previous incoherent rant, and I will put it another way for you, just to make sure your 10 year old brain gets it. I could title a video "can you make a guitar sound like a drum kit" and then replace the strings with a snare, the pots with a kicker, the tuning pegs with cymbals, and the bridge with a cowbell, and by your logic, that would be just fine. No clickbait here, move along. You, fucking, moron.
@@ballsrgrossnugly When you complain that the video wasn't serious enough and that they cheated with an extra drum... the only thing i can take from that is that you're looking to seriously use a kids drum set. Other than that you're just mad and complaining for the sake of complaining. Just look at your replies. This was a fun challenge co op video and you're raging in comments lol. The drums sounded way better with new heads. WTF did you expect. Just leave your dislike and move on to the next video, nobody cares.
So adding about $120 in drum heads, then $350 or so for the K-Dark cymbal, another $70 for the Trashformer, another $70 for the bottom of the hi-hat, and say $130 for the EFX hi-hat top. So a minimum of $740 for the add-ons. That's not including the additional $150 for the Pandero tom. So in total, about 45x the cost of the drum set itself. Why bother with the set in the first place then?
I just picked up this same kit on marketplace for $50 to use on our local "porchfest" concerts. One Saturday per year, various homes on main street in Henderson Ky lend their front porches to local talent. Some of the porches are tiny, and the fun is fitting the whole band on it (sort-of like stuffing 30 clowns in a Volkswagen bug). People drive for miles just to come walk main street porchfest. Its free and fun. I'm stripping mine down to bare wood, and gonna do a blue to natural fade with Spraymax 2k automotive glossy clear in a rattle can. (Sold at our local PPG). I also picked up a used pearl export 12" tom that I'm going to convert to a floor tom. I keep good used heads in my studio closet for emergency use. (I change heads almost as often as a guitarist changes strings.) So heads will be free. I ordered a 16" emad batter head for the kick. Finally, I'm using cheap sound percussion stands and Agazarian cymbals. (Why not? They'll sound as good as the rest of the kit.😁) I see no need in bringing my good cymbals to a low volume setting. We cant get too loud or we will interrupt the other band down the street. So we use hot spots as mains and in-ears for monitors. Paint and all, I'll have spent a little over $100 because I already had the heads, stands and cymbals.
It's literally impossible to make stock heads and cymbals to sound. They all need replacing. The shells and hardware are "fine" with some minor adjustments. Even a nicer adult drum kit will still likely require new heads and cymbals.
I took a SPL 16" bass drum changed the batter head, what I did was to cut a single 16" outer studio ring used it in the inside, added a 10" tom and a 13" floor tom, added studio rings and it sounds GREAT, now it's got 5 drums, 8" 10" 13" 16" and 10" snare, before finishing, I stripped the shells, rewrap them, with a sparkle material, I played an outdoor gig with it and it had many compliments on the drumset.
What the hell with people saying they "replaced all the parts" ?! They changed the heads and snare wires. It's still the same shells ! You would do this to any used drum kit !
I think Remo sounds full and alive. Evan's overall sounds dead, like something you buy to make a sound guy happy. BUT, their hydraulic heads are a lifesaver on cheap kicks or when you really need more control over the tone. Took one off an Imperialstar that had been on there for literally 30 years! Still gave a tone when we tried to tune it. I wouldn't call it a GREAT tone, but still...it did tune.
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You should do a short video about how you made that camera mount at 3:49
Hi rdavidr
rdavidr hey Dave what state of the union do you live in if you don't mind me asking
Holy Damn !!!!
Wow thats a cool guitar
I can make a good Drum Set sound like a Kids Drum Set
Same
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Cant we all😂
That's ez
@@ifah7188 No its absolute Rocket sience
I feel like they like they should of played it before they upgraded it
Agreed. A compare/contrast would've been nice. 🤔
Moses Bastian they did, and it sounded not much better with the upgrade. Obviously!
@@biggils8894 no, no they did not! Banging on it or BEATING on it and lack of tempo would have sounded like shit on anything!
Exactly!
Like yeah
Honestly was more curious what it sounded like before you replaced the heads.
It sounded fucking terrible. Did you hear him hit the snare and Tom?
@@thebeatclinic9000 I feel like they could have tuned up the existing heads to compare to the new ones though... Not that this kit even resembled the one he bought in the end...
@@ballsrgrossnugly the problem with that is those cheap stock children's drum set heads weren't meant to be tuned like an adult drum set is, they aren't REAL drum heads, they're essentially just really strong paper, strong enough to withstand a child's strokes but not an adults, the heads probably would have split in half
You heard it already
The literal translation is "it sounds like something you should never play" - and really, it puts off new players when EVERYTHING they do sounds ugly af
So how do you make a 25 drum.set sound good? Add 500.00 worth of stuff!!!
Lol
Exactly.
It's not the drums that make the drumner. It's the drummer that makes the drums.
Robert Garza but some drums are just complete trash too
I feel like I've been scammed
It would've been a good idea to demonstrate the sound of the kit before the upgrades.
i mean they all sound the same
Set a few folds of toilet paper on various size coffee cans. Use aluminum baking pans for cymbals and any metallic thing of your choosing for a hi hat…oh and stomp the floor in a pair of worn construction boots. That’s what any kids kit sounds like. Trust me, I still play my kid’s kids’ kit cause I’m broke..
no crap
We wanted to see if we could make a childs kit sound good so we went out and bought a child's kit, then we replaced everything on it invoking the ship of Theseus, and now it sounds great!
EXACTLY. I got a Ludwig Jr kit for $200, and didn't REPLACE jack. I just
TWEAKED what it already had. (I reduced, mostly: ditched the adorablefloor tom, the cymbal stands, the reso heads and rims [my goal was to make it
as minimal and light and quiet and tight as possible, to play outdoors]. I cable-tied two DRUMSTICKS to the mounted toms, as Cymbal Stands (!) and did add a Dollar Tree Plastic Vase ("cowbell") via cable-ties. It was ugly black so I took GOLD holographic ductape ($1!) and cut it into diamonds and afixed on all the shells. I taped the heads a bit too with this cool trippy tape to mute stuff, and my kit sounds INCREDIBLE. I added a couple small cymbals too.
I really dislike waste, as well. I never ever break guitar strings, and I never break drumsticks or drumheads! I may be the lightest-touch drummer on earth, b/c i practice outdoors using rods.
That’s like saying it’s the ship of Theseus if you replace the strings on a guitar. They just added their own cymbals and tom, replaced the heads and that’s it, kit was still used just different heads. Which is the same as changing the strings on a guitar. Maybe you didn’t really understand the Ship of Theseus cause this is not that at all
@@blackmamba015 you know what Jokes are right?
Our profile pics are the same color.
@@deanmoncaster Yes, but the joke doesn't really work, because it's *normal* to change heads and snares, and swap out the stock cymbals. It's like if they replaced nothing on Theseus' ship but the ropes and the sails.
*im a guitarist what am I doing here*
same
Same
Come to the dark side...
we have cookies...
and you get to beat your instrument with sticks.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 I already beat my instrument with sticks... but I do like cookies
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 oh ya, well us guitarists get to finger ours 🤣
I just feel like the pink really brought out my eyes.
Hey bro, love both channels!! You guys are hams. Lol. The kit in the video ain't too bad. It is cheesy though.
But what's the fun of it if you put (semi) expensive first-brand drumheads and symbals? Even I (a noob) can make it sound good with all those good heads and cymbals :/
@@mariadalmasetto9642, well, putting cheap or worn out heads on drums, either baby kit or studio kit, will not make them sound better or make this comparison more fair. The thing is that when you have equal drumheads and cymbals on both drumkits - you can hear the difference between shell size, woods and furniture on those two drumkits. Quality of all this stuff makes great influence on drum sound also.
Does purdy eyes, huyuk
I did. Lmfao.
5:59 Very satisfying to see the ride’s swinging frequency match up with the frequency at which it’s hit.
I guess it's sort of like... forced resonance? xD
@@nihilisticalbino So the drummer chose the tempo based on the swinging speed of the ride? Seems unlikely. Nice coincidence for sure, though.
@@casperdewith Nonono, his hits force the period of the oscillation and his hits to synchronize. Causing resonance and an increasingly larger movement (higher amplitude, but same frequency).
@@nihilisticalbino I don’t think this is how resonance works. Swings don’t work like this either. There is one natural frequency.
@@casperdewith Resonance is any phenomenon which has an oscillation with an increasing amplitude due to an interaction in a precise moment. A swing an a toddler is a good example of resonance, but I don't know how a kid would react if you started pushing him at a precise tempo no matter where he is in his swing journey (well, he'd be annoyed, to start). Would his swings synchronize to (a reciprocal of a power of two of) your pushes eventually? Or is it just a coincidence what happens in the video?
Check this video to see where I got this idea from: th-cam.com/video/T58lGKREubo/w-d-xo.html
(Dunnow if I'm just wrong thoxD)
As my father used to say: "It's not the tool, it's the operator." After a few 'adjustments' he made the new thing he built sound good. It would have been interesting to have heard him play the thing as it was delivered.
"How to make this drum kit sound good?"
Step 1, replace all the parts.
Really?
Yes really
They were about to replace the shells, hoops and hardware but then they realized it wouldn't be the same kit anymore haha.
@@YeOldeKamikaze It's not the same kit as it is! This video is a complete joke! The answer is "no, but you can get a better kit and add the good parts of the kid's kit to it"
Heads are consumables. Nowhere does it say that you can't use better consumables.
Also tuning.
It’s that simple.
My question is: can you make a super amazing and expensive kit sound BAD????
Señor Everything oh, this is a great idea
I think the 1980s answered that question pretty decisively.
lars ulrich on st anger....roflmao
Way too easy. Detune everything and you’re done.
@@TheMusicrunner but they could get creative with it
This should be labeled "When your heads cost more that your kit."
*than
When *one head* costs more than your kit...
But you changed so much, it's it just a normal drum kit then?
drum kit of theseus
The point is that you can make the shittiest kit actually useable with quality heads and good tuning. Plus triggering the drums could add to the fun.
Yeah, you're not gonna use it for a 120 date tour with Sting but busking/open-mic/pub gig, maybe you could.
I'm not including cymbals in this because, come on, those brass disc things aren't cymbals.
@@JonnyJayJonson
>brass disc things
chuckled right there
@@JonnyJayJonson Considering I got a 5 piece with (shitty) cymbals and some spare brushes etc for AU$50 a few weeks back, I don't see any reason to get a kid's set in the first place! Put those good heads and cymbals on an already adult sized kit!
Heads are consumables. Nowhere does it say that you can't use better consumables.
5:57 idk why, but that cymbal moving is just so satisfying
Enjoyed the video guys! Maybe you should give the kit away to a young subscriber?
Jeff Randall I agree!
Was going to say this. Sounds great for a youngster to play on.
Brilliant.
Really made me smile, my little lad would love that, have to sit him on my knee at the moment.
Let some youngster have it they’ll love it 👍👍👍👍
Ya I want to if you look at what I commented youll know why
I just have a passion for drumming
bass drum riser, more effects cymbals, record and/or gig it.
2:57 “ if you have problems with your snare drum sounding bad”
Lars *heavy breathing*
Siren 331269 lmao i’ve never laughed so hard in my life
And the Academy Award for most savage comment goes to......
Siren 331269!
Actually he said good
*FIRST OF ALL*
We need to make a child
why the fuck isn’t this pinned
The child would probably make the drums sound worse then before with them playing it
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@@bigmichael2765 ikr
Me sitting here at 3 am pretending I know what they’re talking about.
Me too at 4am
Me three 1 am
Better than most kits I’ve heard lol
Also, keep in mind that the audio is coming from mics around the set.
You mean Lars?
It all has to do with tuning and experience man..pricey drums are over rated lol.
@@ThrobertJohnson I only see a Shure 57 and something in.the kick...
King KAI Better than Ludwig?
No joke, it sounds pretty damn cool!
That's because it was no longer the same kit tho...
I was laughing my ass off when Stephen was on the kit. Very comical to see such a beast of a man play on that tiny drumset.
I know a guy, Tony Dale, he plays on a little Pac-D (Sakae) and gigs with a 644.00 kit (shells, pedals, AND hardware)...I have one identical to his. If you see one grab it, they're going out of business. Which is too bad, they make a nice lil kit. They made the cocktails for Yamaha.
check out benny greb sponge bob kit
A PINK one at that! LOL
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How does changing the heads compare to replacing the drums? That's tantamount to saying replacing the strings on a guitar is the same as replacing the whole guitar. Have you ever touched a drum set in your life?
Better yet, throw your car away and buy a new one!
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kekag I mean but if u used a like cotton drum head or someshit and replaced it with a mesh one it will make a difference. It’s really makes the difference so its essentially the same thing. Changing guitar strings is like changing the drum sticks
@@tomj2064 First of all, pretty sure cotton drumheads don't exist unless you're referring to animal hides. Secondly, obviously changing styles of drumheads like going from mylar to mesh is going to make a difference, but so is changing from 14 guage metal strings to nylon strings on a guitar. Also, drumsticks hardly make a difference sound-wise in the context of the whole kit. Unless you're playing on a practice pad, it's very hard to hear the different unless it's drastic like going from a 7a birch to 3s oak stick. Drumsticks are way closer to guitar picks in that sense.
kekag i know cotton drum heads don’t exist, just decided to use it since I couldn’t think of anything else. That’s y I said “or someshit”. And guitar picks is just for personal preference, that’s y some ppl don’t even use them. Drumstick tips made of wood gives a warmer sound, and nylon tips a more harder brighter sound. Just like guitar strings, where different materials make a difference.
i honestly have so much respect for drummers... keeping rhythm and tempo seems so challenging to do😳
It’s really easy if you just simply disregard everyone else in the band….or in the audience
Yeah it takes a bit of practice but it’s not that hard as it’s seem when you do it enough
Ignore everyone else because they’re supposed to align to you not the other way around and when people in bands try to turn it around there’s usually issues
Skip to 5:50 if you just wanna hear them play.
thanks, bro ❤️
Goes to show that heads + proper tuning are responsible for 90% or more of the sound you will hear from your drums. Growing up I always played entry level kits, but would immediately swap out the stock heads for quality Evans, Remo or Aquarian. A few years ago I had enough saved to buy any kit I wanted. I looked at DW Collector's Series, but ultimately decided they were not worth the price and went with PDP Concept Maple for a fraction of the cost. Despite what John Good says about lining up the grain patterns and everything else to get you to spend $4000 or more on a shell pack, it's not worth it. My PDP Concept Maple set has Evans G2 batter and Evans G2 reso on the toms with Evans emad 2 on the kick. I've compared the sound of my kit to a friends's Collector's Series and in a live setting, there is no difference. Sure, in a studio with $7,000 Neumann mics you may be able to hear a slight difference, but rehearsing with your band or playing live, you will not hear it. I have recently setup a home studio with Shure, AKG and MXL mics and the drums sound great on my recordings. Save your money for quality heads and learn how to tune and you can make any kit, even a kid's set or the cheapest used kit sound good.
maprow at that point you’re buying something (DW Collectors) as a reward perhaps for reaching a milestone or for the recording situation like you mentioned. Also the quality of build in terms or craftsmanship, parts, longevity and stability tend to be greater on premium kits because although they might sound similar you’re paying for more durable and robust parts.
The price I would personally stop at is about $2,800 for something like a Tama B/B kit, and then order the additional drums I want later. If you start on a good kit with great heads, hardware and awesome cymbals you can never go wrong.
DW, to me, is like the Gibson of drums. Overpriced for what you get. But I understand why people like them.
DIY Musician haha that’s actually what I ordered! I got a 24, 14, 16,18 config. P sure it was a b/b in vintage marine pearl.
I play an X7 maple and they sound excellent
@@MetalxMasters Tama makes some stunningly nice sounding drums for not much $$$.
I was given a 71 Imperialstar for free. Suck the filth out w ShopVac and clean it. Hydraulic head hides cheaper drum oddities and I actually like it as much as my 26 Ludwig Vistalite. Maybe more. Sound is more "focused." jmo.
With the Martini kit and nice cymbals, well, why move $4,500 and 500lbs of drums if you don't have to? Make their doofy kick.a low tom.
Stephen doing Bonham triplets on that thing was nuts to see
It reminded me of this: th-cam.com/video/DyO7lvzfw5Q/w-d-xo.html
Ship of Theseus:
"If all the parts of a ship are replaced one-by-one, is it still the same ship?"
Came here to say this
@@crkopacz about 50 people beat THIS guy to it tho...
Drumheads are meant to be replaced, the shells are what actually constitute the kit.
he just replaced the heads
TheGreatestTeamOfAll lmaooo
Add the $899 28" ride cymbal to the $20 Kids Drum Set 😂
The first hit on that big apple ride was hilarious.
I think we should have got it for the kit...
You could use it as a tray to carry around the rest of the kit.
Anika Nilles uses huge Meinl rides :)
But how can this cymbal be so expensive, it sounds so bad
@@TimTkachyk LOL!!!
You win the internet for today. Great. lol
This is great! Reminds me of the time Mike Portnoy played on that Hello Kitty drum set.
Cameron Fleury going to that video right now!
I saw that one a few days ago.
Porntoy*
The orange stars!
Mike’s worst Enemy.
Damn. That was a great video.
Bummer, it is like you cheated.
I was hoping to see if you could take what came in the shipment and make that sound good, spending zero extra dollars.
What could you have done with the original kid-kit to maximize its sound quality?
It would have been a cool lesson on making the best of what you got, something most starting drummers could stand to see/hear.
😕
Drumeo does a video where they do that. You should give that a search.
But that's not really possible, is it? A kiddie kit will never sound great unless you upgrade the heads/cymbals at the very least.
You can tune crappy stock heads til the cows come home and they're gonna sound crappy. Flipping out heads, which is routine maintenance like changing guitar strings, and making good, complementary choices can make even a cheapo kit sound passable.
Shut the fuck up
@@SEXC300oh4ch You don't have to be such an ass.
You should donate the kit to a children's hospital or something similar.
Ehh id say maybe the adoption center or something similar, i personally wouldn't want to hear red hot chili peppers while hearing my child get diagnosed😂
It would make more sense to use whatever money these videos made to buy *new* kids' kits for children's hospitals. The kids aren't going to appreciate some beat-up old kit with mismatched cymbals and expensive heads, even if they sound much better.
My very first drum set was a 'kid's set': a Remco 'Liverpool Compact' three-piece kit with a 12" snare drum, a 10" rack tom, and 16" bass drum. And it had a 10" gold-colored sheet metal cymbal. It was in blue color paper wrap around the drums with plastic hoops. I believe the shells were pressed paperboard of some kind. The thing is; the batter heads were Remo coated plastic heads and were fully tunable. The snare drum had snare wires on the resonant head. The bass drum batter head was a tunable plastic head and the reso side 'head' was some kind of paperboard. That was the kit that got me started and as I recall they actually sounded pretty good for a cheap 'kids set'. I received it for a Christmas present when I was 12 years old and I was thrilled to get it after begging for a drum set after I saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show. I have fond memories of jamming in the basement with neighborhood kids..learned to play 'Wipe Out' on that kit started me on the road to a lifetime of fascination with drumming. The Remco 'Liverpool Compact' kit was a step up from the usual 'kids sets' of the time as it had actual tunable batter heads it was quite fun to play.
"You would have one of those cheap crappy things laying around "
SHOTS FIRED!
28 inch ride? meh not big enough.
Thomas Pridgen would use two of them as a pair of hats.
Well you would look silly wearing ride cymbal as a hat, dont you think?@@mrhairyhippo6504
jezusmylord no
Smaller than a splash
It’s ok..... do you have any 54” in stock?
How does that snare sound so good???
I dont like it but its not toooo bad
@@jooplin I think it's the gel. Without it I think it would sound better. Sounds too digital here, even though it's analog.
@@cooliofoolio analog snare? please explain.
@@torontoantonio1842 analog is a real snare, while digital is like an electric or midi snare
@@cooliofoolio Without the gel it would probably have tons of ring.
Hi Rdavidr, my nephew just gave me away his junior kit, and what I can say is Less Is More, this kit become my portable kit. Your videos are very inspiring and very informative. Love your channel. 😀
I like going back to watch these vids as I learn more and more about drums
As a die hard Remo fan, I’d like to see the mini EMAD Evans offers on the kick, and a harder beater. Bet you can get it pretty beefy.
Thats exactly what I was thinking, Way more life to be squeezed out of that shitty little drum.
These two guys Rock...
Seriously..😊😊😊Rock big time👍👍👍
God bless you both🙏
A small band could invest in one of these and go straight to recording
Not really
@@TheRocketRaider why not
Alpcan Aras the replacement parts are probably more expensive then just getting a new drum.
@@notmichaelcalabrese2518 Well it should be a strategical economical planning then.
2:23 better than St Anger 😅
The snare and toms came out totally decent!
Happy Birthday big Dave
Amazing what a difference the heads and a better snare make. And I love the sound of that hat! It would have been interesting to hear you play the kit as it came for comparison
The only logical conclusion to this kit...Is shredding death metal played in a hello kitty costume....Marketing gold here man! Don't pass that up!!!
We need more cowbell.
I kid, I kid!! Sounds great guys, nice job!
Sounds cool. Got a distinctive sound. Cute but not tacky. Good job.
Yes a 20 dollar drum set, but all the money to repair cost much more
All he bought was heads and did some DIY, what's the big deal?
@@JonnyJayJonson New heads I can give them, but they also added an extra tom and completely replaced all of the cymbals! Those alone would have been upwards of 5 or 600 bucks for zildjan!
So, no, "some diy" doesn't cut it, buddy.
That's the big deal!
@@ballsrgrossnugly you can't take those brass things that a music shop has the nerve to call 'cymbals' seriously. Anyway, that's separate to making the actual drums sound good. And if they added a tom, so what? Doesn't mean you have to in the same situation.
@@JonnyJayJonson Just saying, defeats the purpose of getting a kids kit in the first place. The fix should have been to tune it up and put as much DIY chains etc on the cymbals to make them sound as better as they could be. This isn't making a kid's kit sound good, it's putting the wooden parts FROM a kid's kit into a more expensive one.
@@JonnyJayJonson And I believe the cymbals were part of a drum kit last I checked? I don't see the title saying "make the snare tom and kick sound better by spending money on them" or anything like that. This video is useless clickbait shit.
The sound of that kit reminds me of the sound of the drums from Brick House by Commodores
Should turn all the drums on the kids kit into toms
4:04 best part in the whole video!
I could watch you two play for hours!!!
Wow that's amazing those little drums sound really good man .
This sounds better then my 2k drumset.....
Alex Mojica i sure hope it doesnt
Mics
It’s than not then. I hate to correct you like that, but I see this mistake so much I couldn’t help myself this time. Not trying to be a duche, but I’m just educating a bit. No, hate just love my man!
Allen Mitchell it’s douche , you fucktard
To: Alex Mojica. Is your set a DW?
He starts playing at 5:54 just Incase you wanna skip the beginning
Thanks bro
This dude is taking stuff to the new level haha cheers!!!
He still has a long way to go:
th-cam.com/video/RK_Q8xNpv-Y/w-d-xo.html
I mostly come back to this video to listen to the grooves in the end, they're pretty chill
Hey! Have you made a all same size drum kit? Ex. 16" bd, 16" snare, 16" tom - and only 16" cymbals? 😀
Omg I love these Colabs man and the the Kit sounds really good
4:06 “That can live there.”😅😂🤣
you basically replaced the drum set
Enrico P. But every kit even the not crap ones you need to replace all the heads with good ones
@@witchblades6979 What about the $500 worth of cymbals or the $200 extra floor tom? I feel like everyone defending this one is just glossing over the fact that it's not the same kit by the end, and us plebs that don't have $500 of zildjan cymbals and extra toms lying around can just suck it!
@@ballsrgrossnugly No new drummer should be shopping childrens drum sets. That should go without saying. This isn't a video to show you how to make a childs kit work. It was a fun challenge for them. There is no magic $50 drum kit for new drummers that will also sound amazing, it doesn't exist. You get a cheap used set inside your budget and you rebuild it over time, new heads, pick up a cymbal here and there, replace hardware and eventually you have a nice kit. Heads are the cheapest and best way to give a kit a makeover though. Shop used, kits, cymbals, and hardware are all fine used when in decent shape. Don't even bother looking at new if you want the best bang for your buck.
@@BLTspace Since when did I imply that kids drum sets are a good idea for a starting drummer? I'm sorry, if you want to make shit up and imply that it was my idea, you should join the Catholics, they seem to be good at projection. As I stated in reply to your previous incoherent rant, and I will put it another way for you, just to make sure your 10 year old brain gets it. I could title a video "can you make a guitar sound like a drum kit" and then replace the strings with a snare, the pots with a kicker, the tuning pegs with cymbals, and the bridge with a cowbell, and by your logic, that would be just fine. No clickbait here, move along. You, fucking, moron.
@@ballsrgrossnugly When you complain that the video wasn't serious enough and that they cheated with an extra drum... the only thing i can take from that is that you're looking to seriously use a kids drum set. Other than that you're just mad and complaining for the sake of complaining. Just look at your replies. This was a fun challenge co op video and you're raging in comments lol. The drums sounded way better with new heads. WTF did you expect. Just leave your dislike and move on to the next video, nobody cares.
That GP set was actually my first drum set! I didn't know they made heads in that size. Might pick some up
I love listening to stephen play
2:02
Guy at the store: Are you sponsored by Remo? Does it have to be Remo?
Stephen: aS a mAtTeR oF fAcT
That snare and tom actually pretty amazing! lmao
I’m a aspiring guitarist, so all of this is gibberish but it’s still SO COOL AND YALL ARE SO TALENTED!!
'I'm ab to patent this snare system here..'
Caught my ass of guard 🤣😂
0:38 buy 2 and use them as hihats!
So adding about $120 in drum heads, then $350 or so for the K-Dark cymbal, another $70 for the Trashformer, another $70 for the bottom of the hi-hat, and say $130 for the EFX hi-hat top. So a minimum of $740 for the add-ons. That's not including the additional $150 for the Pandero tom. So in total, about 45x the cost of the drum set itself. Why bother with the set in the first place then?
Heads dont cost that much
But everything else is spot on and I agree
To make a video on making a cheap drumset sound good 🤓
Seems they already had much of the stuff besides the heads you eventually replace anyway
When you upgrade the beginning weapon to full max
Lol
That hip hop groove David was playing was so fire 🔥
Nobody can just appreciate an entertaining video on TH-cam :)
You guys did an admirable job with the snare and tom. The kick just doesn't kick though.
They should have put some weights in
Hydraulic Evans heads? Found that to kill off a lot of cheap drum tones/ flaws.
can you make a marching snare plz
I think we'd all love to see that 👍
Fuck off
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Yojgaibi Troutfish fuck you
10" tom sounds beautiful
I just picked up this same kit on marketplace for $50 to use on our local "porchfest" concerts.
One Saturday per year, various homes on main street in Henderson Ky lend their front porches to local talent. Some of the porches are tiny, and the fun is fitting the whole band on it (sort-of like stuffing 30 clowns in a Volkswagen bug).
People drive for miles just to come walk main street porchfest. Its free and fun.
I'm stripping mine down to bare wood, and gonna do a blue to natural fade with Spraymax 2k automotive glossy clear in a rattle can. (Sold at our local PPG).
I also picked up a used pearl export 12" tom that I'm going to convert to a floor tom.
I keep good used heads in my studio closet for emergency use. (I change heads almost as often as a guitarist changes strings.) So heads will be free.
I ordered a 16" emad batter head for the kick.
Finally, I'm using cheap sound percussion stands and Agazarian cymbals. (Why not? They'll sound as good as the rest of the kit.😁) I see no need in bringing my good cymbals to a low volume setting. We cant get too loud or we will interrupt the other band down the street. So we use hot spots as mains and in-ears for monitors.
Paint and all, I'll have spent a little over $100 because I already had the heads, stands and cymbals.
Just want to say, your guys' laughter is contagious
It's literally impossible to make stock heads and cymbals to sound. They all need replacing. The shells and hardware are "fine" with some minor adjustments.
Even a nicer adult drum kit will still likely require new heads and cymbals.
1:25 perfectly timed
That snare is actually amazing
I took a SPL 16" bass drum changed the batter head, what I did was to cut a single 16" outer studio ring used it in the inside, added a 10" tom and a 13" floor tom, added studio rings and it sounds GREAT, now it's got 5 drums, 8" 10" 13" 16" and 10" snare, before finishing, I stripped the shells, rewrap them, with a sparkle material, I played an outdoor gig with it and it had many compliments on the drumset.
Sounds like a really tight smooth jazz set.
you should take every drum part you have and make a huge drum kit out of them
3:54 sounds like insane in the brain. Plz someone make a remix of this
What the hell with people saying they "replaced all the parts" ?! They changed the heads and snare wires. It's still the same shells !
You would do this to any used drum kit !
Holy shit for real though
I love that snare sound...seems like a good option for a practice kit for sure.
I HAVE THAT SAME DRUMSET I HAD WHEN I WAS YOUNGER! I still have it and its a green one
for someone who doesnt know why, I felt confused when you put a blanket in the kick drum lol
Hahaha. Does it have to be remo? Yes!😆
Thumper baby Bambi I find Evans to be darker sounding with Remos being brighter and Aquarian having more mids.
The Forbidden Left Foot Of CallMeCarson ive tried/played them all and Remo just stuck out to me. My fave punk artists played them too so..😀
I think Remo sounds full and alive.
Evan's overall sounds dead, like something you buy to make a sound guy happy.
BUT, their hydraulic heads are a lifesaver on cheap kicks or when you really need more control over the tone.
Took one off an Imperialstar that had been on there for literally 30 years! Still gave a tone when we tried to tune it.
I wouldn't call it a GREAT tone, but still...it did tune.
#teamevans
Was watching dark souls videos and I play guitar so I wonder how I got here? Great video though!
Because of me. I watch so many youtube videos I dominate the algorithm trends
I was watching mountain biking and this showed up lol But hey it was a sweet transformation!
I hope there is more of those kits so my friend can learn on something to start with.
It would have been fun to hear a “before” set just so we could appreciate the conversation 😊
Got any young nieces or nephews? Friends kids that look up to you?
Something funny: I took a bit of their drumming and made it my ringtone
Play the kit out of the box.
Lots of fun, kit sounds really good after the new heads!