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I'm excited for having some form of TBC back. Even if we have to wait through another year of classic for it. I hope it progresses to WotLK too. My wife and I had too much going on to play TBC and WotLK classic when they came out and I haven't played them since college.
I just can’t get into classic, it’s not blizzards fault either. I think the player base ruined it tbh, the constant min maxing and gotta go fast attitude sucks.
i know it sounds silly, but: just ignore it. there are people out there that feel the way you do. it's just a bit more hassle to find these people. for me it worked out quite well on classic and also on hardcore to treat classic mostly like a singeplayer RPG. the AI-voice over addon for the npcs really helps to drive that home as well.
I'm inclined to agree. Been in a couple 'casual' guilds. They started out okay but they both changed into something not to my liking because of the people who joined later. I play to relax and enjoy. Others seem to treat play like work. I don't understand that mentality for a game. None of the other stuff Blizz announced was of interest to me. I don't think Blizz will ever come up with what I would call Classic+ so I'll go somewhere else for my wow fix.
@@stevebarrett9357 Agreed, I would maybe come back if they did a seasonal rotation server. Right now though I am enjoying GW1, it's been more my speed lately.
@@zuephillips3450sod has across EU and USA 60k raiders this week alone . How is that a failure ? Just becuase phase 3 sucked doesn’t mean the game still sucks and will continue to suck . Hop off the hate train for once . Sod is still very popular . And with recent announcements It got more hype . It might be the classic + for now .
A lot of WOW youtube creators are surprised that Classic+ wasn't announced, but I think you all have your hopes too high. They probably want to see how SOD plays out, then give them a year to analyze everything and start working on the game. They probably won't announce it until 2026 and it will be playable a couple weeks after announcement.
2026 is wishful thinking. A Classic+ would require far more effort than any Classic version has so far required, including SOD, while MS has massively cut their resources, while demanding faster release cycles for retail... 2027-2028, if ever. Looking at the fact Pandaria Classic is coming, they're looking for lowest effort options...
@@Kfo221 gold farming bots make the game more accessible to more players while also increasing subscription numbers theres literally no incentive for blizzard to ban the gold farming bots.
For only a year though, right? I just had my WoTLK characters forcefully transferred over to Cata, I'm not dedicating time to characters that I won't be able to play in my preferred expansion after a certain amount of time. Unless they're announcing that the TBC/WoTLK servers will be permanent this time around, and that we'll be able to play TBC/WoTLK in hardcore, I'm not really that excited about the classic announcements tbh
@@not_cicero This 100%. Aboslutely. I want a permanent TBC server. No forced progression into WotLK, and no server resets. So they really did force you guys into cataclysm afterall? I received no support with them forcing TBC into WOTLK last time and was called crazy on the forums. Blizzard really didnt get it. I hope they get it this time.
The Hearthstone stuff was nice because of the how much open communication we got. Seeing them straight up announce and give exact details for all their planned content for the next year is something they've never done before. That being said, aside from the Starcraft crossover, it does feel like they announced all this just so they had something to announce. Because while they *have* been teasing new features like pets and ways to customise your board, I suspect its all still on the drawing board.
I do essentially enjoy Warcraft Rumble because it allows me to play a slice of Warcraft during my work breaks. It’s fun to play occasionally in doses. I’ll play it when I’m away from home and away from my PC. I used to do that with Hearthstone but fell behind because I didn’t dedicated myself to the game so hard like many others. So honestly Rumble is a way for me to play a slice of my favorite universe on the go. But yeah; when I’m home I’ll be on my PC playing the regular game.
Nah they just going to keep selling the trash and add a mount so ppl really buy into it that prob won't even play it. They know how to milk anymore, not entertain.
I'm with you on not being that hyped for Undermine. Even back in WC3, I never did like the whole steampunk techy stuff. I always leaned more towards the high and dark fantasy parts of Azeroth. What did excite me from the road map, though, was 11.1.5's "Nightfall". It sounds like the Order of Night from Hallowfall is coming back into the story, and I'm all for it.
@@chc2650 you'd be surprised at how much games reuse things. idk why you're mad about it. You know what's been recycled/reused? another expansion around the Void. What is this, like the third time the Void was used as part of an expansion? And soon, we'll have an expansion completely Void themed. Why can't they be a bit more original????????
Ummm the steampunk elements been there since Warcraft II actually. Humans are just stuck in a medieval stasis but Dwarves, Gnomes, and Goblins have always been steampunk since their debut.
Aggrend did a very long tweet talking about people being disappointed in not seeing what they were expecting (very obviously talking about classic +) and he said that just because it wasn't announced now that its not being actively being worked on, I think its going to be a 2025 late announcement and like a 2026 release for classic +. I also think that it wouldnt have made sense to go all in on Classic + yet since SOD is still going on and the point of SOD is to essentially test things so they still dont have the data yet for end end game like Naxx.
I kept my expectations low and I was fine with what we got. I wasnt expecting anything major being announced. Also Im hyped for Undermined. I freaking love goblins!
It would be amazing if Blizzard introduced a feature allowing players to choose expansion progression. Imagine starting in Vanilla on a dedicated server, and then having the option to transfer (or duplicate) your character to a TBC server, and continue like that through each expansion up to the latest one. I was personally hoping that when Blizzard announced WOTLK Classic, they would leave a TBC server for those of us who wanted to stay in TBC, but that didn't happen, which was disappointing. Still, WOTLK is part of the true WoW Classic experience, so I gladly progressed until they announced further progression into Cataclysm-that's when I completely stopped playing. I believe a huge number of players would see this type of progression choice as one of the best options Blizzard could offer the Classic community, alongside improvements like Season of Discovery, Hardcore mode, and Classic+
Most of the keywords that we hear from Nixxiom today are: 1) Disappointed 2) Heartbroken 3) Not a huge fan 4) Not a connoisseur 5) Wait a little longer 6) Not my thing 7) Not bad, but predictable Face it. Nixxiom, like many, are just tired of Blizzard. I think that Turtle WoW has pretty much ruined Nixxiom when waiting on Blizzard to actually make Vanilla+ content.
Nixxiom is just a classic+tard like many other people. He wants idiotic stuff like OLDbutNEW... People like him will never be happy because they contradict themselves... he wants classic?But no? He want the old game but with all new stuff... tell me how the fuck that makes any sense? Turtlewow is a good example of this kind of people... they add nonsense stuff that literaly goes against the lore of the game the prettend to love... Initialy turtle stuff had some good changes, brining in stuff that was planned in the alpha but never actualy implemented... but then they went and added things like high elves playable... which are ust blood elves... but lore wise, even tho there are small factions of high elves remaining that are not loyal to the horde, this makes no sense. For starters, most high elves are resentful of the alliance because of the betrayal from Garithos and how he mistreated the elves during the 2nd war. Anyway i can go on and on but the point is, this idiots just want to mandhandle the game to add their delusions.. they arent diferent from those woke people that want you to accept that a transwoman is a real woman even tho it has a pennis.
@verenov77 I'm so tired of Blizzard, I've been playing WoW and WC3 on Twitch each day. Which everyone should totally come by and check out, by the way. Awh yeah.
@@NixxiomOnTH-cam Tired of their design decisions, and lack of progress concerning Vanilla+. Of course, you're going to play World of Warcraft. It's great for the channel, and there are still some aspects of it that you enjoy. However, believe me when I say that your viewers see the decline in excitement for content that Blizzard has released in recent months/years. It's not only for WoW, either. The same is true for Diablo, as Blizzard continually drip-feeds content that has continually failed to live up to expectations of their customers. In other words, we love seeing you play WoW, but we also wish that Blizzard could give content that would rekindle that old fire in their players that they once had.
Honestly after years of Warcraft’s future being uncertain, I welcome a little bit of predictable stability. Some fresh classic progression servers, some sneak peaks at future patch retail content, and some neat stuff for the non-WoW Warcraft games I’d give it a solid 7, not mind blowing but no real trip ups at all :)
All I wanted is talk about Classic+. It's fair they aren't ready for it yet, but at least they could tell us they have it in their plans, and on which principles it should be built, possibilities etc.
I was pumped that they remastered WC1 as the original game was very frustrating to play; using the WC2 interaction makes it much more enjoyable and I can't wait to finally play it.
the Direct shocked me, my favorite thing is easily the return of the Battle Chest, with the entire trilogy of Warcraft RTS updated to 2024 for only $40. HUGE W. as for Player Housing, we'll have to wait and see how that goes, can guarantee that it will face MANY changes before people are finally happy, if ever.
I personally enjoyed warcraft direct. I lowered my expectations with Blizzard a long time ago, so when they do something that I find interesting it always surprises me and cheers me up. I'm happy they announced classic fresh -> tbc and prob wrath. I missed tbc and wrath for the most part so really excited to play those. Really enjoying SoD atm and having so much fun with it. And the fact that they said the servers are not going anywhere and gonna stay up I enjoy it. I know for someone it's not classic+, it is for me for now. If they do even more in the future, I'm more for it. Skeptical about player housing after garrisons.
ngl, i was really envious of the people that were there. i didnt see any advertisement for it and switzerland would've been very possible to travel to for me
@quasar188 i understand that thought process. But my response would be just make different armor looks. Instead of just recoloring a single set 5 different times
I started watching and the music hit me hard. Definitely excited for War1-2 and debating hitting Fresh once again since I never seem to be able to get to raiding. I foolishly thought that the remasters would be free ...
I need to know what updates they’re going to give to winters veil. I’ve been begging for more prominent holiday events with more to do during the holidays but the updates we got for hallows end were okay but it didn’t take over the game like a true holiday should.
I think expecting them to drop information about Classic+ only a year after SOD or their "testing ground" has been out is basically just setting yourself up to be disappointed. Like if Classic+ was to end up being something that a lot of people want, which is basically a whole new game as many people describe, that would take at LEAST a few years to do so. So I just think expecting them to announce something about it so soon is just expecting a miracle to happen.
I wanna be excited, i've been playing Wow Classic for 14 years now, starting on private servers. Balance changes need to happen in vanilla and in TBC for me to be excited.
I'm happy for fresh classic that'll go into tbc because i missed it in 2019 so i'm hyped but if someone played it already before I understand it can be underwhelming
Same; I played Classic, but not all content, also about 2 months before it ended I made a hunter alt and I absolutely fell in love with the playstyle (my main had been a warlock), but I managed to get it only to level 47 when TBC launched, I was really disappointed that I didn't get to play it at max level content.
@@Mipioo Do you think we will know before launch? I would like to stop at tbc. If it will continue to wotlk and cata I would not play at all. It would be fair to outline it before launch.
@@janwowdeleter idk probably not because they would say it on the program in my opinion but I think it'll go to wrath probably, maybe with an option to stay? not sure what's next. It's just speculations so don't take it seriously
I also find the next patch (Undermined) to be interesting. Not a big fan of playing as a goblin in general, but I kinda like when I come across goblins, as they're whacky and impredictable, and something always goes wrong when they around, and I find it pretty entertaining to be fair, hope the patch is gonna be fun (as, I think, RPGs nowadays kinda lack that whackyness, I feel like too many of them just try too hard to be very serious and story driven, while kinda forgetting the fun factor, and I think a patch like this could be a breath of fresh air) and boy oh boy... the dynamic ground mount...LET'S GO BOYYY!!! FRICKIN' MARIO KART IN WOW!!! :)))
What would actually work. Vanilla world where you actually saw and interacted with people, WOTLK talents so the game isn't broken for PvP and so that pve rotations were just hard enough to be interesting AND let you raid with people you actually liked to play with, rank 14 system without decay for pvp gear, SoD PVE, no GDKP and banning bots. Since the dev team wouldn't need to balance the idiocy that is SOD talents and runes every patch those people could instead work on new in game content much like Turtle WoW does. Things like the Legion mage tower could be added for the esports difficulty stuff that the game should never target for things like raids. It's why population fell off a cliff in Cata. I'm not playing SOD because the pvp is as bad or worse than retail, I'm not raiding old raids again that are played out when alliance will all quit in a few months and pvp will be dead past MC and non existent in TBC, I'm not playing retail because the game has been completely hijacked by "elitist jerks" like Ion Hazzikostas who has made the game several esports that failed over a decade ago and the only reason he has kept his job is DESPERATE esport orgs that are an echochamber who only cares about themselves and not the health of the game. Ion uses the esports players as slave labor to sell token carries to what are essentially mobile gamers who don't even want to play a MMO. It's why the community is complete trash. The formula was always there to make WoW good again and Blizzard just refuses to make it and I refuse to give them money anymore. Almost everyone at Blizzard in decision making roles needs fired. Influencers will never say it because Blizzard is their gravy train, but they are out of touch, they aren't the people who made the great games you still support due to nostalgia (Ion took over post Legion and all his expansions suck) and you need people there that at least understand why some things worked in the first place. The fact that they think they can balance pop on pve and pvp servers in classic era shows how utterly clueless they are. TBC will be completely DOA for pvp with alliance all gone and blood elves and I don't think Blizzard has any idea how many people raid just so they can have some fun with pvp. Fire everyone but the artists and the SOD raid team and the artists on SOD and D4 should be the leads. These people are past "constructive criticism". They are the worst people at their jobs that somehow fail upwards I have ever seen outside maybe Kathleen Kennedy.
I think that it's okay that Blizz didn't reveal anything classc + related yet. They better take their time to fully flesh it out and make it good. It would have been too early in my humble opinion. It will come around eventually.
kinda wonder if this is just going to become garrisons 2.0 . No need to leave to a main city for anything, just go to all the conveniences like AH,bank, ect along with LFG and LFR. Your adventure wont ever leave home, rather a new adventure being at home like they are trying to sell. I think it wont end as well as people hope. Blizz has shown it can't hold back adding too much convenience in a inappropriate spot, token and cash shop are good examples for a sub based game with bot issues. Or the many many many trinkets,armour, and mounts that let you avoid the cities basically all the time. Again, they have a warped idea of fixing flow issues for gameplay.
Im very excited for Undermine, the Dynamic Ground Mount and Player Housing! What looks good to me is the Warcraft 1 & 2 Remasters Meh was the Hearthstone stuff. It MAY not be my thing, but for others, good for them! Disappointed? Obvious (ofcourse not for everyone but probably some people), MoP Classic. No, its not classic, not even Cataclysm was classic stuff. Whats classic? Vanilla, TBC and WotLK, since the world was not affected by change after Deathwing appeared. Glizzard slowly converts the 'Classic' server into a second Retail client and that is not really what classic is at all lmao. So yea, keep classic, classic and keep retail, retail. So simple.
Classic SoD: ... MoP Classic: Okay, I guess that makes sense Classic Classic: Uh...? Classic Classic going into TBC Classic Classic: I audibly slammed down my phone and yelled "THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT???" 11.0 Undermine(D): Ooh... Winter Veil Revamp: Hmm... Player housing: YES!!! LET'S FKING GOOO!!!
you missed the part where ion says the 1 floodgate dungeon is alongside 4 other launch dungeons and 3 legacy dungeons for undermineD... this is so much content.
Im really excited for undermine been wanting to go there forever, housing should be pretty cool hope there are multiple locations and styles, might try classic again with the fresh servers but lordy the community kills classic for me. Ive played since vanilla everything has its ups and downs. Been loving TWW pvp and various activities have kept me busy and plus i can play alts easily.
If SoD was going to be a testing ground for Classic+ and SoD has not ended yet, why would anyone expect Classic+ announced? If they release were to release it now, people like you complain that is not finished and that they didn't take their time.
Knowing this is modern blizzard, they'll, no doubt,fuck it up much like they did with sod. People are also not happy with warcraft 1 and 2 being resold to them. Apparently, you're not allowed to access the older versions anymore?
If I was doing TH-cam strictly for cash, I wouldn't make videos in the gaming niche, which is the lowest paying on the platform. It may come as a shock to some people, but I very much enjoy playing Blizzard games, which is why I make videos about them lol
Why hate on classic? You still have retail. Let people enjoy what they want to enjoy. That being said classic should really just be vanilla through wotlk. Anything after that is really considered to be more modern WoW and retail-esque. Cata and MOP classic were not needed.
Honestly I really do not understand the whole "we want classic+" thing when twow has classic + right now for you to enjoy? like why the fuck dose Blizzard have to do it... makes absolutely no sense....
Imagine player housing be like in Skirym. Hanging your armors and weapons. Even getting married and having a wife or a husband waiting you home,maybe kids.That some heavy RP stuff LoL 😂
lol. To all the people who shit on the players who wanted to stay in Wrath and didn't want to deal with all the BS Cata brought I hope you enjoy the pandas
Yeah, i imagine it will be preset grid system, where you cant place your furnishing freely. Like in Lotro or SWTOR... The best one for me is the ESO housing.
I played a fair bit of rumble and it's not much to write home about. What you got outta the first couple of levels is what you get out of the rest of the game.
I think the timing of fresh classic is totally off. It came both too late and too early. The hype was surging when ERA blew up. It was a Window of opportunity. As it stands today I’d prefer it if they’d wait at least a few months. Also. One of the things I love is the hype for the coming launch. I was so hyped for months before the launch back in 2019. It felt almost like when you were a kid and kept scrolling through toy magazines before Christmas. Now we just got a week.
Classic+ is a pipe dream. It means too many different things for too many players. It wont be a thing anytime soon. Retail is where they want people going and it is obvious. They will string along those who will only play SoD and classic cata-mop but expect very minimal involvement after release of those realms.
So everybody... What did you think of all the announcements?
Excited
Looks good
Meh
Disappointment
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I didn't know Jill Biden was the Executive Producer for WoW, intardasting!
More reason to play AoC ^_^
@@NixxiomOnTH-cam I am INCREDIBLY excited for the Undermine, probably the most hype I've been for a zone in a long while
meh
I'm excited for having some form of TBC back. Even if we have to wait through another year of classic for it. I hope it progresses to WotLK too. My wife and I had too much going on to play TBC and WotLK classic when they came out and I haven't played them since college.
Personally I do not think it makes any sense for them to tease a official Classic+ until SOD is officially wrapped up.
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Sod is classic+ to blizzard
exactly SOD needs to end so that they can get all the data they need to make the right decisions, AQ isnt even out yet
Same. Not sure why people expect classic + when they are still doing SOD? Like chill people wait until they are done SOD like fuck .
Classic+ isn't real.
I just can’t get into classic, it’s not blizzards fault either. I think the player base ruined it tbh, the constant min maxing and gotta go fast attitude sucks.
yeah same
i know it sounds silly, but: just ignore it. there are people out there that feel the way you do. it's just a bit more hassle to find these people. for me it worked out quite well on classic and also on hardcore to treat classic mostly like a singeplayer RPG. the AI-voice over addon for the npcs really helps to drive that home as well.
Honestly, I don’t notice that at all in most cases. Perhaps you need to join a more suitable guild.
I'm inclined to agree. Been in a couple 'casual' guilds. They started out okay but they both changed into something not to my liking because of the people who joined later. I play to relax and enjoy. Others seem to treat play like work. I don't understand that mentality for a game. None of the other stuff Blizz announced was of interest to me. I don't think Blizz will ever come up with what I would call Classic+ so I'll go somewhere else for my wow fix.
@@stevebarrett9357 Agreed, I would maybe come back if they did a seasonal rotation server. Right now though I am enjoying GW1, it's been more my speed lately.
Modern Blizz fans getting milked for rereleases of 20-30 year old games, embarrassing.
They have mastered the art of milking.
People want it 🤷♂️
This!
Way too soon for a classic+ announcement. SoD will need to wrap and devs will take all the learnings to classic+. We are 1-2 years away.
You are probably right, i hope sooner than 2 years though!
This is cope SoD is a failure and because of that blizzard is going to make the assumption that people don’t want classic plus.
@@zuephillips3450sod has across EU and USA 60k raiders this week alone . How is that a failure ? Just becuase phase 3 sucked doesn’t mean the game still sucks and will continue to suck . Hop off the hate train for once . Sod is still very popular . And with recent announcements It got more hype . It might be the classic + for now .
It’s not happening lol. Your new content is in retail.
People wanted classic to play classic as it was, you’ve got that.
Thats correct. But classic+ will look similar to sod in this case?
Re re re releases, those still sticking around deserved to be milked.
This comment.
A lot of WOW youtube creators are surprised that Classic+ wasn't announced, but I think you all have your hopes too high. They probably want to see how SOD plays out, then give them a year to analyze everything and start working on the game. They probably won't announce it until 2026 and it will be playable a couple weeks after announcement.
They couldnt make Classic+ if they tried, look at SoD. Thats their best attempt at C+.
Literally this.
2026 is wishful thinking. A Classic+ would require far more effort than any Classic version has so far required, including SOD, while MS has massively cut their resources, while demanding faster release cycles for retail... 2027-2028, if ever. Looking at the fact Pandaria Classic is coming, they're looking for lowest effort options...
That's okay. C+ is coming eventually, and fresh is pretty cool.. As long as it stays free from the cash shop and wow tokens.
don’t get your hopes up regarding the cash shop
It's gonna be plagued with bots. Watch.
@@Kfo221 gold farming bots make the game more accessible to more players while also increasing subscription numbers
theres literally no incentive for blizzard to ban the gold farming bots.
@@dtreezyplease expand on your reasoning behind bots making the game more accessible to new plauers.
Madseason said it best in regards to the WoW Token
I just wanted fresh and the old remasters and i get them pretty much immediately instead of waiting a year thats amazing and not disappointing
You missed TBC, i'm so pumped about TBC coming back
For only a year though, right? I just had my WoTLK characters forcefully transferred over to Cata, I'm not dedicating time to characters that I won't be able to play in my preferred expansion after a certain amount of time. Unless they're announcing that the TBC/WoTLK servers will be permanent this time around, and that we'll be able to play TBC/WoTLK in hardcore, I'm not really that excited about the classic announcements tbh
Same boss! I miss TBC both back in the day and just recently with TBC classic. I’m not missing it again 😆
@@not_cicero I have not seen info that we would be forced into wotlk but I surely hope not.
@@not_cicero This 100%. Aboslutely. I want a permanent TBC server. No forced progression into WotLK, and no server resets.
So they really did force you guys into cataclysm afterall? I received no support with them forcing TBC into WOTLK last time and was called crazy on the forums.
Blizzard really didnt get it. I hope they get it this time.
Unless Blizzard reversed the idiotic idea to override our old versions of WCIII with Reforged. then I'm not interested in any updates they do to it.
from what i heard a while back they did. that being said though, i'd give the 2.0 a shot.
@@UltimateGamerCC they did not
The Hearthstone stuff was nice because of the how much open communication we got. Seeing them straight up announce and give exact details for all their planned content for the next year is something they've never done before.
That being said, aside from the Starcraft crossover, it does feel like they announced all this just so they had something to announce.
Because while they *have* been teasing new features like pets and ways to customise your board, I suspect its all still on the drawing board.
I do essentially enjoy Warcraft Rumble because it allows me to play a slice of Warcraft during my work breaks. It’s fun to play occasionally in doses. I’ll play it when I’m away from home and away from my PC. I used to do that with Hearthstone but fell behind because I didn’t dedicated myself to the game so hard like many others. So honestly Rumble is a way for me to play a slice of my favorite universe on the go. But yeah; when I’m home I’ll be on my PC playing the regular game.
Anyone else noticed the Warrior in the House used Rogue Outlaw Hidden Appearance?, foreshadowing we can use other classes transmogs?.
I think that's just Blizzard not wanting to use the outdated Thunderfury model for their fancy trailer.
I suspect inside your player house youll be able to use any model collected.
I’m honestly pumped that TBC classic is coming back but hoping they do it better this time
"Chris Metzen is back!"
>reads a book
>refuses to improve the game or elaborate
>leaves
Such a shame that Warcraft 3 will never receive a propper remaster...
Nah they just going to keep selling the trash and add a mount so ppl really buy into it that prob won't even play it.
They know how to milk anymore, not entertain.
I'm with you on not being that hyped for Undermine. Even back in WC3, I never did like the whole steampunk techy stuff. I always leaned more towards the high and dark fantasy parts of Azeroth.
What did excite me from the road map, though, was 11.1.5's "Nightfall". It sounds like the Order of Night from Hallowfall is coming back into the story, and I'm all for it.
Soon as I saw that recycled mech golem model I tuned out, so boring.
@@chc2650 you'd be surprised at how much games reuse things. idk why you're mad about it. You know what's been recycled/reused? another expansion around the Void. What is this, like the third time the Void was used as part of an expansion? And soon, we'll have an expansion completely Void themed. Why can't they be a bit more original????????
medieval stasis is boring
Ummm the steampunk elements been there since Warcraft II actually. Humans are just stuck in a medieval stasis but Dwarves, Gnomes, and Goblins have always been steampunk since their debut.
@@utopiandystopia1383 Yep but Fantasy purist always want more of the same (read: Tolkienesque fantasies)
Aggrend did a very long tweet talking about people being disappointed in not seeing what they were expecting (very obviously talking about classic +) and he said that just because it wasn't announced now that its not being actively being worked on, I think its going to be a 2025 late announcement and like a 2026 release for classic +. I also think that it wouldnt have made sense to go all in on Classic + yet since SOD is still going on and the point of SOD is to essentially test things so they still dont have the data yet for end end game like Naxx.
Warcraft 1 was the first game i played via my 14k4 modem against a friend. Good times.
I kept my expectations low and I was fine with what we got. I wasnt expecting anything major being announced.
Also Im hyped for Undermined. I freaking love goblins!
Ok so... have anyone else noticing tons of comments disappearing from the comment section? Many of mine are completely gone...
I've been seeing it happen all over the place. I can't tell if it's the website or the channels doing it.
@@Emidretrauqe the bizzare thing is i get notifications for responsens on threads where my coments are all gone lol.
It would be amazing if Blizzard introduced a feature allowing players to choose expansion progression. Imagine starting in Vanilla on a dedicated server, and then having the option to transfer (or duplicate) your character to a TBC server, and continue like that through each expansion up to the latest one.
I was personally hoping that when Blizzard announced WOTLK Classic, they would leave a TBC server for those of us who wanted to stay in TBC, but that didn't happen, which was disappointing. Still, WOTLK is part of the true WoW Classic experience, so I gladly progressed until they announced further progression into Cataclysm-that's when I completely stopped playing. I believe a huge number of players would see this type of progression choice as one of the best options Blizzard could offer the Classic community, alongside improvements like Season of Discovery, Hardcore mode, and Classic+
Most of the keywords that we hear from Nixxiom today are:
1) Disappointed
2) Heartbroken
3) Not a huge fan
4) Not a connoisseur
5) Wait a little longer
6) Not my thing
7) Not bad, but predictable
Face it. Nixxiom, like many, are just tired of Blizzard. I think that Turtle WoW has pretty much ruined Nixxiom when waiting on Blizzard to actually make Vanilla+ content.
Nixxiom is just a classic+tard like many other people. He wants idiotic stuff like OLDbutNEW... People like him will never be happy because they contradict themselves... he wants classic?But no? He want the old game but with all new stuff... tell me how the fuck that makes any sense?
Turtlewow is a good example of this kind of people... they add nonsense stuff that literaly goes against the lore of the game the prettend to love... Initialy turtle stuff had some good changes, brining in stuff that was planned in the alpha but never actualy implemented... but then they went and added things like high elves playable... which are ust blood elves... but lore wise, even tho there are small factions of high elves remaining that are not loyal to the horde, this makes no sense. For starters, most high elves are resentful of the alliance because of the betrayal from Garithos and how he mistreated the elves during the 2nd war. Anyway i can go on and on but the point is, this idiots just want to mandhandle the game to add their delusions.. they arent diferent from those woke people that want you to accept that a transwoman is a real woman even tho it has a pennis.
yes TWoW bangs🎉
Not just turtle wow the inferior version but soon Project Epoch will overtake the world of Warcraft fan base by storm
@verenov77 I'm so tired of Blizzard, I've been playing WoW and WC3 on Twitch each day. Which everyone should totally come by and check out, by the way. Awh yeah.
@@NixxiomOnTH-cam Tired of their design decisions, and lack of progress concerning Vanilla+. Of course, you're going to play World of Warcraft. It's great for the channel, and there are still some aspects of it that you enjoy. However, believe me when I say that your viewers see the decline in excitement for content that Blizzard has released in recent months/years. It's not only for WoW, either. The same is true for Diablo, as Blizzard continually drip-feeds content that has continually failed to live up to expectations of their customers.
In other words, we love seeing you play WoW, but we also wish that Blizzard could give content that would rekindle that old fire in their players that they once had.
Honestly after years of Warcraft’s future being uncertain, I welcome a little bit of predictable stability. Some fresh classic progression servers, some sneak peaks at future patch retail content, and some neat stuff for the non-WoW Warcraft games
I’d give it a solid 7, not mind blowing but no real trip ups at all :)
All I wanted is talk about Classic+. It's fair they aren't ready for it yet, but at least they could tell us they have it in their plans, and on which principles it should be built, possibilities etc.
I was pumped that they remastered WC1 as the original game was very frustrating to play; using the WC2 interaction makes it much more enjoyable and I can't wait to finally play it.
the Direct shocked me, my favorite thing is easily the return of the Battle Chest, with the entire trilogy of Warcraft RTS updated to 2024 for only $40. HUGE W. as for Player Housing, we'll have to wait and see how that goes, can guarantee that it will face MANY changes before people are finally happy, if ever.
I personally enjoyed warcraft direct. I lowered my expectations with Blizzard a long time ago, so when they do something that I find interesting it always surprises me and cheers me up.
I'm happy they announced classic fresh -> tbc and prob wrath. I missed tbc and wrath for the most part so really excited to play those. Really enjoying SoD atm and having so much fun with it. And the fact that they said the servers are not going anywhere and gonna stay up I enjoy it. I know for someone it's not classic+, it is for me for now. If they do even more in the future, I'm more for it.
Skeptical about player housing after garrisons.
Announcements aside, the orchestra at the end was phenomenal
ngl, i was really envious of the people that were there. i didnt see any advertisement for it and switzerland would've been very possible to travel to for me
@schippes24 Damn. Yeah, they need to bring the concert around the globe
Seemed pretty cool. Was hoping for a dye system announcement. Maybe even a shift sprint key feature. Haha
@quasar188 i understand that thought process. But my response would be just make different armor looks. Instead of just recoloring a single set 5 different times
I started watching and the music hit me hard. Definitely excited for War1-2 and debating hitting Fresh once again since I never seem to be able to get to raiding.
I foolishly thought that the remasters would be free ...
I need to know what updates they’re going to give to winters veil. I’ve been begging for more prominent holiday events with more to do during the holidays but the updates we got for hallows end were okay but it didn’t take over the game like a true holiday should.
That portraits in cutscene on Warcraft 3 is still there in options to toggle, for whatever reason it's toggled off on default.
I was a bit confused by the announcement, are they saying that once 20th Anniversary Classic reaches TBC it won't upgrade anymore like Classic Era?
13:10 me when i drift into the stormwind AH crashing my horse into the citizens
Profession that lets you craft things for the player housing
like a carpenter or wood worker or stone worker etc
have it tie into the other profs so the gems crafted onto ur chair was put on by your friend
I'll never change my review for WC3R until they actually do add those promised cutscenes 😅
I think expecting them to drop information about Classic+ only a year after SOD or their "testing ground" has been out is basically just setting yourself up to be disappointed. Like if Classic+ was to end up being something that a lot of people want, which is basically a whole new game as many people describe, that would take at LEAST a few years to do so. So I just think expecting them to announce something about it so soon is just expecting a miracle to happen.
I wanna be excited, i've been playing Wow Classic for 14 years now, starting on private servers. Balance changes need to happen in vanilla and in TBC for me to be excited.
I'm happy for fresh classic that'll go into tbc because i missed it in 2019 so i'm hyped but if someone played it already before I understand it can be underwhelming
Same; I played Classic, but not all content, also about 2 months before it ended I made a hunter alt and I absolutely fell in love with the playstyle (my main had been a warlock), but I managed to get it only to level 47 when TBC launched, I was really disappointed that I didn't get to play it at max level content.
Will it stop at tbc or will it continue to wotlk?
@@janwowdeleter we don't know yet
@@Mipioo Do you think we will know before launch? I would like to stop at tbc. If it will continue to wotlk and cata I would not play at all. It would be fair to outline it before launch.
@@janwowdeleter idk probably not because they would say it on the program in my opinion but I think it'll go to wrath probably, maybe with an option to stay? not sure what's next. It's just speculations so don't take it seriously
I think we get one more cycle of fresh to TBC and then plus announcement after the next cycle gets to Wrath
I also find the next patch (Undermined) to be interesting. Not a big fan of playing as a goblin in general, but I kinda like when I come across goblins, as they're whacky and impredictable, and something always goes wrong when they around, and I find it pretty entertaining to be fair, hope the patch is gonna be fun (as, I think, RPGs nowadays kinda lack that whackyness, I feel like too many of them just try too hard to be very serious and story driven, while kinda forgetting the fun factor, and I think a patch like this could be a breath of fresh air) and boy oh boy... the dynamic ground mount...LET'S GO BOYYY!!! FRICKIN' MARIO KART IN WOW!!! :)))
Tbc letssss goooo
in 2026
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it.
What would actually work. Vanilla world where you actually saw and interacted with people, WOTLK talents so the game isn't broken for PvP and so that pve rotations were just hard enough to be interesting AND let you raid with people you actually liked to play with, rank 14 system without decay for pvp gear, SoD PVE, no GDKP and banning bots. Since the dev team wouldn't need to balance the idiocy that is SOD talents and runes every patch those people could instead work on new in game content much like Turtle WoW does. Things like the Legion mage tower could be added for the esports difficulty stuff that the game should never target for things like raids. It's why population fell off a cliff in Cata.
I'm not playing SOD because the pvp is as bad or worse than retail, I'm not raiding old raids again that are played out when alliance will all quit in a few months and pvp will be dead past MC and non existent in TBC, I'm not playing retail because the game has been completely hijacked by "elitist jerks" like Ion Hazzikostas who has made the game several esports that failed over a decade ago and the only reason he has kept his job is DESPERATE esport orgs that are an echochamber who only cares about themselves and not the health of the game. Ion uses the esports players as slave labor to sell token carries to what are essentially mobile gamers who don't even want to play a MMO. It's why the community is complete trash.
The formula was always there to make WoW good again and Blizzard just refuses to make it and I refuse to give them money anymore.
Almost everyone at Blizzard in decision making roles needs fired. Influencers will never say it because Blizzard is their gravy train, but they are out of touch, they aren't the people who made the great games you still support due to nostalgia (Ion took over post Legion and all his expansions suck) and you need people there that at least understand why some things worked in the first place. The fact that they think they can balance pop on pve and pvp servers in classic era shows how utterly clueless they are. TBC will be completely DOA for pvp with alliance all gone and blood elves and I don't think Blizzard has any idea how many people raid just so they can have some fun with pvp.
Fire everyone but the artists and the SOD raid team and the artists on SOD and D4 should be the leads. These people are past "constructive criticism". They are the worst people at their jobs that somehow fail upwards I have ever seen outside maybe Kathleen Kennedy.
dang so cool Warcraft has almost the same bday as me… well, guess now i gotta play war within so ill be ready for midnight when it drops
I think that it's okay that Blizz didn't reveal anything classc + related yet. They better take their time to fully flesh it out and make it good. It would have been too early in my humble opinion. It will come around eventually.
Ill probably join when the TBC Classic comes out, cant do another classic run, especially after SoD and the upgraded skills in there.
Nah i'm so ready for a classic fresh
Me too, and it's gonna be gnome mage this time too lol
i think warcraft 1 and 2 deserves not a remastered but a remake give the stuff they added to the lore over the years.
That would ruin them IMO. WC1 and 2 are special and refreshing because they aren't loaded with all the extra stuff that came after.
I abit bummed out by the fact that there was nothing about what comes after SOD.
Why they gotta torture symphony for 2 1/2 hours of login screen music 😂
Nixxiom you can enable the portrait setting, it in the setting for Warcraft 3
I didn't know that! Thank you.
kinda wonder if this is just going to become garrisons 2.0 . No need to leave to a main city for anything, just go to all the conveniences like AH,bank, ect along with LFG and LFR. Your adventure wont ever leave home, rather a new adventure being at home like they are trying to sell.
I think it wont end as well as people hope. Blizz has shown it can't hold back adding too much convenience in a inappropriate spot, token and cash shop are good examples for a sub based game with bot issues. Or the many many many trinkets,armour, and mounts that let you avoid the cities basically all the time. Again, they have a warped idea of fixing flow issues for gameplay.
thumbnail: it was impossible not to click the vid 😅
Im very excited for Undermine, the Dynamic Ground Mount and Player Housing!
What looks good to me is the Warcraft 1 & 2 Remasters
Meh was the Hearthstone stuff. It MAY not be my thing, but for others, good for them!
Disappointed? Obvious (ofcourse not for everyone but probably some people), MoP Classic. No, its not classic, not even Cataclysm was classic stuff. Whats classic? Vanilla, TBC and WotLK, since the world was not affected by change after Deathwing appeared. Glizzard slowly converts the 'Classic' server into a second Retail client and that is not really what classic is at all lmao. So yea, keep classic, classic and keep retail, retail. So simple.
Classic SoD: ...
MoP Classic: Okay, I guess that makes sense
Classic Classic: Uh...?
Classic Classic going into TBC Classic Classic: I audibly slammed down my phone and yelled "THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT???"
11.0 Undermine(D): Ooh...
Winter Veil Revamp: Hmm...
Player housing: YES!!! LET'S FKING GOOO!!!
Same reaction lol
Seems like you need to do a Hearthstone colab with Rarran. Or maybe a tournament with Crendor.
Well , re-packaging and re-re-releasing same game over and over again is not something I would call BIG .. 😅
you missed the part where ion says the 1 floodgate dungeon is alongside 4 other launch dungeons and 3 legacy dungeons for undermineD... this is so much content.
Housing is waaaaay to Late...
Warcraft 1 and 2 are nice, but for me its not heal the Soulcrush in 2020 with Refund.
TBC hype!!!!!
tbc bots yeah have fun
The new car doesnt sound like the roller beatle from GW2 at all...
I want classic to have those graphic options. Give me the old and the new.
Umm, I think I'll just keep on playing on Turtle WoW and Ascension.
Thanks for recommending it btw!
Im really excited for undermine been wanting to go there forever, housing should be pretty cool hope there are multiple locations and styles, might try classic again with the fresh servers but lordy the community kills classic for me. Ive played since vanilla everything has its ups and downs. Been loving TWW pvp and various activities have kept me busy and plus i can play alts easily.
If SoD was going to be a testing ground for Classic+ and SoD has not ended yet, why would anyone expect Classic+ announced? If they release were to release it now, people like you complain that is not finished and that they didn't take their time.
GW2 Roller Beetle looks sillty too, but is fun !
Knowing this is modern blizzard, they'll, no doubt,fuck it up much like they did with sod.
People are also not happy with warcraft 1 and 2 being resold to them. Apparently, you're not allowed to access the older versions anymore?
So they are doing the Everquest thing with TLP - should be well received
They're taking the warcraft out of Warcraft. It just gets sillier every expansion.
Happened years ago. Where've you been?
For not being the biggest fan of goblins you sure do like pushing ads for addon which is strongly against the game TOS...
Nixxiom is just a sellout and hypocrit nowadays. Ever since he stop making machinimas you could tell, he just making these for $$$.
Zygor does not violate Blizzard's TOS in any way, shape or form. Hence why they've been around since TBC without issue.
If I was doing TH-cam strictly for cash, I wouldn't make videos in the gaming niche, which is the lowest paying on the platform. It may come as a shock to some people, but I very much enjoy playing Blizzard games, which is why I make videos about them lol
I’m with you nixxiom nothing exciting on blizzards end “OH LOOK FRESH AGAIN HAHA LOOKIE LOOKIE” like come on give us classic plus already
Thank you, Nixxiom, for your content! I appreciate your channel and the videos you share 😊
I hope I can set some gnome and vulpera trophies on the walls in my home.
"Alot to de disappointed in"
Yea, I'm sad too that they didn't announce that they'd discontinue all forms of classic permanently
Why hate on classic? You still have retail. Let people enjoy what they want to enjoy. That being said classic should really just be vanilla through wotlk. Anything after that is really considered to be more modern WoW and retail-esque. Cata and MOP classic were not needed.
Yeah that is just as likely as them suddenly deciding to completely shut down Retail while they are at it
Honestly I really do not understand the whole "we want classic+" thing when twow has classic + right now for you to enjoy? like why the fuck dose Blizzard have to do it... makes absolutely no sense....
they should have made the new graphics for wc3 like Heroes of the storm
Imagine player housing be like in Skirym. Hanging your armors and weapons. Even getting married and having a wife or a husband waiting you home,maybe kids.That some heavy RP stuff LoL 😂
You mean having body type 1 or body type 2 as a partner?
Im hyped AF
lol. To all the people who shit on the players who wanted to stay in Wrath and didn't want to deal with all the BS Cata brought I hope you enjoy the pandas
Ima say classic plus announcement this time next year
I didn't know Jill Biden was the Executive Producer for WoW, intardasting!
Think of the most laziest, low effort way a player housing can be implemented because that’s what Blizzard is gonna do
Yeah, i imagine it will be preset grid system, where you cant place your furnishing freely. Like in Lotro or SWTOR... The best one for me is the ESO housing.
It's just going to be a cash shop mess.
My biggest fear is they're going to monetize it in some manner like some other MMOs have. But we shall see.
@@NixxiomOnTH-cam for a low price of 90 dollar lol
They'll put effort into player housing so that they can sell furniture and other cosmetics on the store.
I played a fair bit of rumble and it's not much to write home about. What you got outta the first couple of levels is what you get out of the rest of the game.
Please use that thumbnail for all your future videos! 🤣
They need to retune warriors in classic and hunters in tbc
I think the timing of fresh classic is totally off. It came both too late and too early. The hype was surging when ERA blew up. It was a Window of opportunity. As it stands today I’d prefer it if they’d wait at least a few months.
Also. One of the things I love is the hype for the coming launch. I was so hyped for months before the launch back in 2019. It felt almost like when you were a kid and kept scrolling through toy magazines before Christmas. Now we just got a week.
SoD is classic + the plus comes after Vanilla.
Blizzard are tricky Devils. I may not cancel my sub and start with classic fresh progression son of a
As someone who could careless for raids, give me player housing sooner!
Another lobby to wait in for 30min queues
if we get player homes i might come back to playing wow
Isn't classic+ that thing that people made up on their own and blizzard has never even hinted at but people assume they have.
I like the new TWW new ideas. But Goblin is kinda ehhh for me. I would take murloc theme over it always.
Is all Arthas now
I am just bery happy about the House System.. the rest is Kakke.
giant overhaul patch for wc3 is basically just a pr move to trick you into buying that bs
Classic+ is a pipe dream. It means too many different things for too many players. It wont be a thing anytime soon. Retail is where they want people going and it is obvious. They will string along those who will only play SoD and classic cata-mop but expect very minimal involvement after release of those realms.
The talent for a true classic+ in the vein of Classic doesnt exist at the company. No one other than Leonardo da Vinci could make a Mona Lisa+.
Im still waiting for World of Starcraft
Lazy ass blizzard why not overhaul the whole campaign :/
5 minutes in Warcraft Rumble??