Plenty of heroes reach high damage with mid to low investment, it all comes down to the fact that this character was heavily nerfed for no good reason in my opinion.
the new skill are so bad, and not are replacement for stuff like auto defence, the defence skills need you to push them each 5 sec and the new skill are each 8sec but its a step in the right diractiom. But i am using the fact that in this game 0 are wired so if you have 0 max energy shield you are always missing 100% and automation: energy shield trigger the skill on cooldown.
The Activation Mediums are certainly good but they are a symptom of the game chaning it's mechanics, Auto defence, COC and those were strong because they didn't take slots on the main bar, but on the passive one, which means that the oportunity cost of using one of those was lower, also you were able to link multiple skills to the same trigger which they removed as well. Regarding enery shield, if you think about it, 0 is the lowest value there is xD, I think it boils down to them not coding it as 0 being considered as not having at all and making the mechanics related to ES not work with chars that don't have any.
@@PyroIsBack this is my code from my char that i ended up clearing pob4 with. its not by any means min maxed, i just wanted something to easily do pob4 and this is what i came up with DnG3dQRSEe+8CgAAAAAAFg==
This is intended. You're wanting p2w damage from a f2p hero trait. Every change they make to torchlight is to funnel people into paid options whether its traits/pacts/content/whatever. Deterministic crafting made f2p hero traits competitive = deleted F2p hero traits could complete top level content = added harder content and buffed paid traits Aura stacking made f2p hero traits competitive = deleted, oh and made top level content harder by adding Archnemesis rares from poe lol
It's very hard to say that this is true, the game launched with only 5 heroes and are the ones that are kept free for new downloads, however if you take into consideration that you can play one of the new heroes every season with tokens then it becomes a little weaker also Youga (Free hero) is one of the strongest characters atm, while fire Gemma for instance is one of the weakest ones.
@@riktorGaming Me: Provides evidence from the entire history of TLI's history. Riktor: "nahh i dunno bro" Get a grip mate... Yes there's some trash paid traits, but ALL of the meta ones are paid. Youga1 caps out WAY before proper endgame (show me a single damage cap youga that hasn't sacrificed all defenses to the point he can't actually run a proper DS farm, and I'll concede this point.) Rehan1 can only do 8-2's and thats only because of a literal bug in one of the hero memories that could get patched at any moment. TLI is by far the most p2w of any arpg ever (not including diablo immortal which wasn't really even an arpg)
@@evilme73 most p2w? are you on crack? you pay 15$ in a season to get access to all hero traits. they give all new accounts 100 hero tokens to buy new traits, they also in a season have rewards which total to 100 tokens to get a hero trait (free btw) and you dont need to buy anything else.
@@TheKrazyGamerr yep, so you gotta pay the $15 sub to get the most op char each season... cos they aren't unlockable by hero tokens until their THIRD season when they're already nerfed. That's just the beginning. Then if you want to do most profitable strats early on it involves selling candles or 200plast items, which don't move quickly enough so you need more tabs... which you need to pay for EACH LEAGUE rather than once like POE or never like Last Epoch. Then you find out that most of the legendary pets for league mechanics make it so you're basically playing POE without an atlas tree if you don't have them. Stop lying to new players. Is the game playable as f2p? Yes. Is it p2w? Also very fuckin YES.
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Meanwhile Erika2 reaches the same DPS for 100FE 🤡
Plenty of heroes reach high damage with mid to low investment, it all comes down to the fact that this character was heavily nerfed for no good reason in my opinion.
Rehan 150 bil on 250 FE budget,
@@riktorGaming thats a good point mate
Rehan 150 bil on 250 FE budget, with screen wide explosions... i dunno how to play TLI after that
the new skill are so bad, and not are replacement for stuff like auto defence, the defence skills need you to push them each 5 sec and the new skill are each 8sec but its a step in the right diractiom.
But i am using the fact that in this game 0 are wired so if you have 0 max energy shield you are always missing 100% and automation: energy shield trigger the skill on cooldown.
The Activation Mediums are certainly good but they are a symptom of the game chaning it's mechanics, Auto defence, COC and those were strong because they didn't take slots on the main bar, but on the passive one, which means that the oportunity cost of using one of those was lower, also you were able to link multiple skills to the same trigger which they removed as well. Regarding enery shield, if you think about it, 0 is the lowest value there is xD, I think it boils down to them not coding it as 0 being considered as not having at all and making the mechanics related to ES not work with chars that don't have any.
Are you saying moto is not worth playing? Or just order calling?
Order Calling, Charge moto is very good.
@@riktorGaming Do you have a good charge build?
@@PyroIsBack this is my code from my char that i ended up clearing pob4 with. its not by any means min maxed, i just wanted something to easily do pob4 and this is what i came up with DnG3dQRSEe+8CgAAAAAAFg==
bQHX7gHKEe+FqwAAAAAACw== This is the Charge Calling build pinned in the Moto channel, it can do 500B
@@riktorGaming is there a discord this channel is in?
Would like to join the discord for builds/community around the game
This is intended. You're wanting p2w damage from a f2p hero trait. Every change they make to torchlight is to funnel people into paid options whether its traits/pacts/content/whatever.
Deterministic crafting made f2p hero traits competitive = deleted
F2p hero traits could complete top level content = added harder content and buffed paid traits
Aura stacking made f2p hero traits competitive = deleted, oh and made top level content harder by adding Archnemesis rares from poe lol
It's very hard to say that this is true, the game launched with only 5 heroes and are the ones that are kept free for new downloads, however if you take into consideration that you can play one of the new heroes every season with tokens then it becomes a little weaker also Youga (Free hero) is one of the strongest characters atm, while fire Gemma for instance is one of the weakest ones.
@@riktorGaming Me: Provides evidence from the entire history of TLI's history. Riktor: "nahh i dunno bro"
Get a grip mate... Yes there's some trash paid traits, but ALL of the meta ones are paid.
Youga1 caps out WAY before proper endgame (show me a single damage cap youga that hasn't sacrificed all defenses to the point he can't actually run a proper DS farm, and I'll concede this point.)
Rehan1 can only do 8-2's and thats only because of a literal bug in one of the hero memories that could get patched at any moment.
TLI is by far the most p2w of any arpg ever (not including diablo immortal which wasn't really even an arpg)
@@evilme73 you know you can get "p2w" heros for free, right?
@@evilme73 most p2w? are you on crack? you pay 15$ in a season to get access to all hero traits. they give all new accounts 100 hero tokens to buy new traits, they also in a season have rewards which total to 100 tokens to get a hero trait (free btw) and you dont need to buy anything else.
@@TheKrazyGamerr yep, so you gotta pay the $15 sub to get the most op char each season... cos they aren't unlockable by hero tokens until their THIRD season when they're already nerfed. That's just the beginning. Then if you want to do most profitable strats early on it involves selling candles or 200plast items, which don't move quickly enough so you need more tabs... which you need to pay for EACH LEAGUE rather than once like POE or never like Last Epoch. Then you find out that most of the legendary pets for league mechanics make it so you're basically playing POE without an atlas tree if you don't have them.
Stop lying to new players. Is the game playable as f2p? Yes. Is it p2w? Also very fuckin YES.