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That's why I appreciate you and ole Calabash, straightforward and unbiased. 👍
Calabash made it clear That D2 is the overall winner. That is his unbiased thoughts on it!
Thanks for all the effort you put into these vids..always enjoyable and informative. Keep em coming!!
Great video. One more thing to consider is the Equinox you're using has the 15" coil. The Deus II is only using an 11". That should have given the Equinox an advantage. So those results are pretty impressive. I love my Equinox 800, but I'm glad I ordered the Deus II.
No he didn't use the 15" on this test you can check time stamps and see that the coil on the equinox 800 is the same size or an inch smaller. But the XP Deus 2 outperforms the Nox 800 in this test.
With bigger coils it will be harder to pinpoint smaller targets.
Steve; You put the EQX at a serious disadvantage and handicapped it by using the Beach 2 mode (page 25 of the manual). It reduces the transmit power by 50% in order to mitigate ground and/or salt noise. I'd suggest using that mode only if those issues are experienced or present, not in a fair test.
I was thinking the same thing, maybe should have done the test in Beach 1.
Watch Calabash's videos at the beach between the two......No funny business & he shows it on the targets!....Also, notice how he can lift the coil higher off the ground & still be able to hit the target with the D2 & the Equinox loses the signal.........He didn't pull any tricks with the settings either!
Retest retest Beach 1
Thank you Gigmaster for taking your time to evaluate the two detectors. I have a detecting buddy that just received his Deus II yesterday and am looking forward to his ongoing evaluation of it. As you say, time will tell. I absolutely love my Equinox and would be hard pressed to switch to another detector with its learning curve. As innovative as Minelab is, I wouldn’t doubt that they are also testing the new Deus II against Equinox and working on something to bring to market in the next couple years. I may hold out for that. Once again, a BIG THANK YOU!!
Cant go wrong with the Nox! Great machine
Minelab machines tend to outperform air tests on wet sand. The Deus 1 underperformed so it will be interesting to see what happens with the Deus 2. I wouldn't ever recommend using the factory setting on the Equinox either, they are just so dumbed down as to be useless. The only meaningful test would be to set up both machines as you would actually use them and compare real signals. We did try to do this in the UK but we got some strange results which we now think might have been the Nox interfering with the Deus II. I'll decide whether to buy a Deus II once they have been given a more thorough workout by other people. Looking forward to seeing Gigmaster take it back to the beach very soon.
I agree. Minelab factory settings are the equivalent of 80%, whereas the Deus 2 is running 95% right out of the box. It’s not apples to apples, and rarely has testing head to head been done by kneecapping either unit constrained by factory presets rather than edge of stability
Would love to see the small ring on beach one one time, my bank account does not want to upgrade but I’m very tempted!
Great info, got my Deus 2 today so I am ready to try it out.
Been using my equinox for about four years now. I feel I do pretty good with it. I really hope Minelab solves some of its problems with small gold chains and rings. I also wish something could be done about detectors picking up foil and gold on the same numbers. But I do not see any reason to put out that much money for the little bit of depth. Not sure at 75 years of age I’m up to a new learning curve. Thanks got your honest opinion!!!
Good video, good comparison. I have been hunting with the Equinox 800 for years and have found a lot of great finds. I can't wait though to get my Deus 2. I appreciate any videos you put out. I know it takes a lot of time and patience. Thanks Terry Greenway (Columbia, Tennessee)
Beach 1 is all Ive ever used. It works well in the brackish water I hunt and supposedly hits harder on lower conducters
Thanks.
Great video, Gigmaster. Dang, I wanted to see the tabulated results at the end of the test. What, did I miss viewing it? At least I know the air at your place is the same as the air at my house. Now I know how the D2 depth stacks up against my detectors.
I think that to be a fair comparison, I would try to match up settings as close as possible with regards to recovery speed, sensitivity, etc.. Regardless, it's still a good comparison. The other thing people have to realize is that the 'Nox is a 3-4 year old design. Benchmark a 3-4 year old top of the line PC with a present top of the line PC and one would expect an increase in performance, otherwise it's money wasted on the new PC. Keep Digging, Gigmaster.
Chart will be in tuesdays video
Suggestion, put the items in a plastic baggies and make a temporary test garden the next time you go to the beach and test the machines side by side. In a baggie, less chance to lose anything. ps: don't forget the tape measure. lol
Gig, there are several things to think about. 1. The price you mentioned, 2. Personally I think the Equinox is easier to learn the adjustments, 3. Is it worth the price for several inches deeper There are pluses for the XP 1 the light weight 2. Depth 3. Warranty Thanks for taking the time and doing a great job to educate us.
You are right on! Lots to consider
I really noticed the latency was much higher on the Nox, Deus II popped loud on that gold. It woke me up, Lol! 🤔
Well said on the air test thoughts at the beginning!
Thanks Gig, love your channel 👍
As you say, the air test lets YOU compare different detectors regardless of soil conditions, so you'll have something to compare once you actually detect in YOUR conditions. Once you use them in your soils, you'll know more. That helps us see the relative effectiveness of each detector and how they might compare in OUR conditions. Thanks for doing this, I really appreciate it.
Looks like a 2" DIFFERENCE But I see a lot of junk dug with Deus 2. I can't wait gigmaster for your expertise on Deus 2. I can wait 6 months of your testing. I just wonder about the warranty service?
Hey, nice job Gig Man! I'm surprised with the results, I've been real happy with the depth, and precision, of my Nox, found many items at 16"+. In your video the coil appears to be pointed slightly above your swing zone as you move further from the coil. I'm guessing that may have influenced the results. Great review though, it will be interesting to see how the new Manticore compares, I'm hoping it is the monster they claim.
Gigmaster, I believe the XP Deus 2 Beach Sensitive is geared towards land based detecting. Equinox’s Beach 1 is it’s wet/dry land detection mode. So, Beach 1 should be used for the comparison.
I know you are just using the factory settings, but I think many NOX users probably hunt the beach at a recovery speed of around 3. The Equinox 800 has a recovery/reactivity speed range of 1-8. My air tests show the NOX gaining an inch of depth per # dropped on recovery speed. Going from a factory set recovery speed of 6, down to 3, would likely increase depth by 3 inches on the NOX. This would also better mimic the Deus 2 Beach Sensitive program.
The Deus 2 Beach Sensitive uses its lowest recovery/reactivity speed of 0. It has a range of 0-5. Calabash uses it at 1. Like the Equinox, a lower recovery/reactivity speed means seeing deeper targets.
Agree I do that on the nox! Maybe when i learn to adjust the deus respectively to the nox we will do it again.
It will take some time to get use to but I'm sure that you will catch on
Even though it's not a ground test it sure shows a lot good video Gig👍
Appreciate the channel, good looks too. 👀❤️
Interesting tests
Thanks
Shaun in Wimauma Florida
Bonjour, j’espère que vous ferez le même test deus 2 manticore. Hello, I hope you will do the same test deus 2 manticore
Thanks for the comparisons.
Great job Gig i enjoyed your video.
Thank you Gig
I think an air test is worth. However my point is the problem of using factory settings in a comparison test. The Equinox was made so as to meet the understanding level of beginners. Thus the factory settings such as recovery speed and iron bias 6 and sensitivity 20. On the other hand, just looking at its price, the Deus II was designed for advanced detectorists. In addition, XP had the Equinox as reference during the Deus II development, and so they would never preset the Deus II in a way that it could look worse than or the same as the Equinox. I'm not saying that the the Deus II isn't better than the Equinox 800, but a testing with factory presets is no doubt biased due to the factors I mentioned. Continue doing comparisons and posting the videos. 👍
@burriedhistory I agree with what your saying I had the same thoughts if it was my test I would have adjusted both machines sensitivity until They started to break up and back them down just until they were each stable and conducted the test from there, this way they were at the max sensitivity for the area, and the results would be more accurate IMHO. Default settings is not apples to apples! Otherwise it was a good video.
Thanks. That is the exact idea 👍
Thanks for the info I love me nox 800 but was looking at the D2
Nox is a great machine.
The thing about an air test is that, if it won’t hit it at a certain depth in the air GENERALLY it won’t hit it that deep in the ground. I’ve had situations with old whites units that I got 8 or 9 inch penny’s in the ground but wouldn’t quite hit that deep in the air though. Haven’t had a more modern detector record that phenomenon yet but it may happen.
Hopefully this'll make Minelab come up with another update!
That Air test does not mean anything, the true test would be take both machines out with you and see how they do with stuff that is actually buried in the ground
im pretty sure the equinox 800 is matched to deus 1, run the deus 2 to 900 or manticore
Nice factory settings comparison. Wondering how much hotter the factory settings are on the DEUS?🤔. And are those settings stable for a new Detectorist or will you be always turning down the sensitivity as soon as you start hunting... Please let us know what you see with that when you hit the beach! 🏖️ Thanks, Mr. Gigmaster! ⚗️🧪🧲👨🔬
Factory settings “beach sens” worked great at the beach!
The one other thing I think you missed was an old 50cal so you can learn to be able to miss them, especially on that one beach
What coil do you use on the 800 for beach hunts?
For the price of the equinox it's a great saltwater machine and considering I still have warranty time on both my Equinoxes I'll have to wait a while on the DEUS.
Why would you use beach mode 2? Nox uses high frequencies in that mode. Redo test in beach mode 1.
Would like to see the difference between the 2 detectors on a civil war bullet. I have the nox 800 with a Deus 2 ordered. My buddy and I have hunted out a piece of land which produced a lot of bullets over a 2.5 year span. I am hoping the Deus 2 might find bullets which are deeper that the 800 is able to locate. Appreciate the video's you produce!
Having swung a Nox for nearly four years and just bought a DII; bullets of that (musket ball, P53, Snider) are common on my beach and the Deus II is deeper on them and gives a reliable ID at great depth. It's incredible
Could the equinox loose sensitivity because is older then your deus ? Awesome video
Gig!.....They do have a bigger coil coming for the D2!
Thanks Gigmaster. Can’t see the chart on the screen though?
Sorry i will put up on my update tuesday video
Ola boa noite sou do Brasil sempre assisto seu videos. Ler a legenda é ruim, faltou muito você colocar uma fota da folha com as anotações do comparativo, iria ajudar muito a visualizar o resultado. Obrigado :D Muito top seu conteúdo.
For me and unless ML has solved the NOX flooding, that alone is a reason to water hunt with D2. Especially when I travel out of country. I sometimes detect for hours in the sea and so far 3 NOXs and 2 3030s have flooded in shallow water! I'm interested in how the D2 does in Dive, detecting shallow saltwater. In the surf I'm more interested in detecting big gold. I'm hoping the D2 is stable in the Dive program and hits gold rings deep. I do not care about chasing small gold and related trash in rough surf conditions. I'm also very interested in how the D2 performs in heavy black sand? The EXCAL and CTX 3030 lose lots of depth in black sand. The NOX overloads and the few such beaches I hunt almost require a PI. Since the D2 has black sand adjust, that might be of serious value? Would love seeing how well D2 does on gold rings in black salt sand? Still waiting for my D2.
Me too!
I got my DEUS II a few days ago and I’ve only walked through my yard once, but something I noticed is that several times I got signals reading 99, dimes are 90-91 so what is 99? So I dug one and it was a small silver ring, DEUS I read 97-98 like a quarter so I’m thinking that 99 is a high conductor target the machine doesn’t know how to classify.. 🤷🏼♂️ anyone else had this happen ?
I sincerely hope Deus comes up with a better way of managing the cable from coil to remote. Until then , I’m having thoughts about owning a Deus. Thanks for doing the air test. I feel that the Deus is an incredible macho but can do with some tweaking by the engineers in my opinion …
I agree on the wire!!
Hey Steve I couldn't understand what you were saying about the coil under water that you don't like,Can you explain that again plz?
The wire needed to transmit.
If memory serves me correctly, I believe the Equinox Beach 2 mode is less sensitive than Beach 1 mode. Wouldn't the test with beach modes have been better performed with the Equinox in Beach 1? From what I've read the Equinox Beach 2 mode, which is recommended for use in saltwater, is made less sensitive to compensate for the mineralization in saltwater whereas Beach 1, which is recommended for dry and wet sand, does not have the lower sensitivity.
Thank you for the side-by-side test none the less. Always interesting material in your videos! Always enjoyable.
Came here to say this.
Beach 1 would've smacked a little harder IMO.
Yeah I kind of agree with you guys which one is more sensitive supposedly since Deus is using Beach sensitive and you should have ran it in beach one that I think would be more compatible not Beach 2
Can’t wait to see you compare the BEAST to the Deus 2 looking forward to seeing if Minelab improved the depth 💙🏖🇬🇷👍
You hunt Greece?
@@matej5775 yes 🙌 Crete 💙🏖🇬🇷💪
@@beachmetaldetectingcrete that's cool! Have you had any problems yet or no? I respect greek law
@@matej5775 I live here and have permits my machines registered I am a legal hunter no problem 😌💙🏖🇬🇷👍
You should have had both detectors sensitivity at their highest
I'd like to agree (certainly the EQX), but being in his side yard and so close to his house as well as that of the neighbors, EMI would eat him up!
@@stevenhurt8896 I'm by no means anti Deus but we really don't know how equal the sensitivity is that the detectors are both in their factory programs. No doubt the Deus is a better machine as it's technology is newer and the price is steeper
When you take both machines to the beach for the depth test make sure you have the equinox turned off or the Deus will not have any depth .
Winner is?
I don't think a minelab detector should ever be air tested the tool functions best with soil under it the air test seem to be useless for minelabe detectors
Thanks to Gig for your great test. There is a lot of work behind it. We should compare as many tests as possible to get a better understanding of these two devices. Here is a test on a forest floor: th-cam.com/video/0BvT9Sx2yjE/w-d-xo.html
I can tell you this is impressive for the DEUS II, I can tell you from personal experience that I wouldn’t dig those scratchy sounds on a salt water beach.. because you can’t know if it’s something or just falsing on the wet sand, no machine picks those chains up in salt water sand, XP DEUS I with high frequency coil will blow your ears off… but not pick up in wet salt water sand…
👍It was very interesting👍
First!! Hi Gigmaster!!
That facts are all ready proven , the DEUS II knocks the socks off the Nox in ALL areas thats just a #Fact
Must have had to step up there game because the nox 800 was getting deeper on coins then the og deus was
It doesn't knock the socks off their very very close to each other
Beach 2 mode on Nox doesnt hit as hard as Beach 1 , Not a true depth test.
Air tests are good for a systems check and basic VDI's...not for comparing depth with a ruler. I don't care what anyone says. Very basic stuff here!
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An air test? cmon, go do undug targets an put the deus2 against the nox 800, thats what I did and the differance isnt much certainly not worth what I paid for it, but I bought it for diving more or less
The Equinox goes much deeper in the wet sand
seems.not good for gold.detecting
Great machine but you're paying double the price 🤷♂️imma stick with my nox till I turn up some gold
Why another Nox Deus 2 comparison? Enough already.
I am a slow learner! 😂
Me too Gig!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Deus is King 😁😁
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