im ngl, the way ethan validates trishas emotions and then talks it thru rationally with her is super sweet and a great example. like as someone with bpd, ppl who talk me thru issues like that really help
Yassssss!! Like people really need to watch Ethan and Trisha because they are such a good dog good example of how to treat people with serious mental illness. He even makes me feel heard and understood even though I’m just listening. I think it’s so amazing to watch how he would react before versus now to how he reacts and to see how he has learned and grown with her
I feel like Trisha is well...Trisha because people and women particularly are always written off as "crazy" just for showing emotion or weakness in some ways and never got the emotional support she and every human needs. I'm glad she's doing better by the looks of it.
Exactly, I really appreciated when he talked through the logic of ignoring the little drama channels instead of writing her off as “crazy” or “overreacting”. I think that conversation was really good for both of them
Yes!!! If the other person get angry as well NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS! Us borderlines really need clear minded people around us to help sooth us out of our worked up state and Ethan does this PERFECTLY! He is so understanding and so kind! Trisha is on a great path and I hope she succeeds with it!!
Trisha bragging about Hila’s design skills to people is my new favourite thing. Major supportive sister vibes! This family are really growing and learning together! 😭
The fact that Trish can genuinely ask Ethan if he thinks she is overreacting, and she can trust that he will give her a genuine answer and love her no matter what, makes me so happy (: she deserves to have a great support system in her life, she’s been deprived of that her whole life it seems and she’s really thriving now I love to see it
His authenticity with her and respect for her is so amazing. That’s true friendship. You know he’s not just in it for the drama when his response to her was to not let it bother her and waste her time. Its what she deserves and honestly I think it’s a great friendship for Ethan.
It makes me so happy that he matches her energy too. Like he’s so naturally calm but embraces her excitement. It kinda reminds me of Gru and the girls from Despicable Me lol
I’m so happy she has Ethan and Hila as family and friends, and especially Moses as a great fiancé! She now has all the amazing people to support and help her and I’m so glad about that! Trisha is amazing and I’m just so pleased for her as she really does deserve all of this! 💖
ethan: *completely rationalises trishas feelings without making her feel bad for the intensity she feels things* also ethan: *gets his subs to lower logan paul’s wikifeet rating as revenge*
I cannot get the people who enjoy this show more when they're fighting. Because the kinder they are to each other, the more enjoyable the show actually is
Their brotherly sisterly banter when they get competitive, and then them having each others backs when there's outside drama is them at their best. And they formed a proper joint sense of humour while on the show. Who wants to see them just miserable and hurting each other I don't get it. I miss this show a lot
I really hope Ethan and Trisha’s relationship gets stronger and healthier. I think Trisha is doing so much better since leaving the vlog squad and she needs this positive outlet, even if they’re gonna be bumps along the way.
Dude frenemise has showed us all how much shit Trisha has gone threw in life and it makes me feel bad cuz when I was younger I used to shit on her but like would still watch her videos she’s so entertaining
Her personality , the stuff she does and says is hilarious, she's not trying to be funny, she isnt a comedian who's whole thing is being funny, she's just naturally like that lmao
i still think they’re all intentional jokes but the structure/execution of her jokes is so indirect that it’s 10x funnier. like her subliminal message compilation post of groceries?? genius. also i love using the word lore any chance i get
Honestly I wheezed I laughed so hard when she said that. If it wasn’t about swatting where that hit so close to home for Ethan.... I’m sure that would have been funnier to the both of them... I’m not sure trisha realized this was a legit sensitive spot for Ethan and she was trying to tell him it’s not that deep. But if Ethan pressed and reminded her he’s been swatted in the past where his kids as affected.... I’m sure trish would have corrected herself and been legit offended for him
It actually did age well. Saying something didn't age well is saying, "we're going to be together forever." *Breaks up in five months* That didn't age well.
That was such a sweet moment when Trisha asked if she was overreacting and Ethan told her she wasn’t but to not let that stuff ruin her mental health. That was great advice and he handled that well.
it makes me physically sick that the only way trisha could get david to not post things that made her uncomfortable was to take off her clothes and it still didn’t work. imagine how low she had to be at that point that she had to resort to that. it is absolutely horrible
I hate that people see it as something to laugh at or blame Trisha for. All it takes is a second to put yourself in her position and you can understand how fucked up it was. And the fact that they were laughing in the video itself is disgusting.
@@AbigailNicolee I never knew Trisha had such terrible mental illness and addiction that she was struggling with. I feel bad for ever thinking she was "crazy" or another harmful stigma. I really appreciate her sharing her story and I've learned a lot from her.
This podcast truly lets Trisha speak her side of the story more clearly, because Ethan guides her away from overexaggerating and getting worked up. It’s really nice to hear her get her point across.
And then she lies about what happened. She said in the other podcast that Jason stopped talking and blocked her because she ran her car into his house. How do you still fall for this shit? She IS a liar. And a domestic abuser. Primarily a liar
I loved the part where she was frustrated with the troll drama channels and Ethan started to offer advice on how to legally go about defamation. He didn't say she was overactive he related to her frustration, acknowledged they were just trolls and they both laughed and moved past it
i love how ethan asks trisha if it’s okay to watch a video of jason fat shaming her, in case it triggers her he genuinely respects her and her triggers
I've realized that everyone had an opinion about Trisha, but never watched a single one of their videos-- or, watched her videos only after hearing the story from other TH-camrs and so watching with unwavering prejudgment. I think this whole timeline of events proves that we as a society are not as 'woke' about mental illness as we believe.
@@liberatethruexposure No. We judge them because of their racist behavior. We judge them for repetitive problematic behavior. She hasn't changed much. But I will agree, how David portrayed them really downplayed her mental illness.
Did Trisha for real just say “true” and drop it when she was challenged on something???? That’s GROWTH right there. Something about this friendship is DEFINITELY working
Thats what she's been like for a while it's only when she's having a mental health episode she won't let things go. Obviously this friendship is healthy but we don't need to act like she was totally useless beforehand
@@synonymous_ 😂😂 She does and has had other kinds of videos they just don't get as much traction. Like she says on here she let herself get triggered for the views.
Thank you for pointing this out, I have complained about Trisha's behavior before, but I have gotten to understand her and her struggle so much better since then, and I think she has grown a lot as a person as well. Love them both now, this show really is lightning in a bottle.
ethan saying "i think its the lexapro" while licking a glob of frosting off his hands and trisha saying "I'm an empath" at the end LMAO best podcast ever
This was the best time of my life when frenemies was happening. I truly got giddy and excited every week and actually had something to look forward to for the first time since I was a kid. Ugh
To be completely honest, this podcast really shines a light on why Trish has acted the ways he has for so many years. Im so sorry I ever thought you were insane. I know now by these videos you're clearly not, and you have better diagnoses of your instabilities which even further help you. Please don't end this series, we love them. And we love you Trish
You can tell theyre like legit besties they laugh and talk so naturally together. He laughed like that when she said “I think you just do frenemies so you can eat with out hila yelling At you lol”
yeah!!! I think she's very cautious about defending people or showing emotions because everyone seems to fuck her over. I know Ethan loves her though and I wish she would open up with her true emotions more
@@mariahuerta7656 I don’t even have bpd and people have fucked me over so much I just expect the worst from everyone cause that’s easier for me to get through my life... I’m not disappointed if I don’t expect anything to begin with...
That’s a really good point about Jeffrey using that hot pink eyeshadow called “Trisha” knowing it was using her likeness and didn’t give her a dime, yet he used Anna Nicole as a product and got sued from Anna Nicole’s estate for using her likeness and not paying her/them. Trisha should sue
I believe there’s footage out there where Shane got Trisha’s consent for it, so I don’t know if it would amount to anything. No sort of public consent for A Nicole though!
Shane did it as an homage to her. She even uploaded like two videos reacting to it cause she was proud and felt honoured that he named a shade after her. Why would she sue them if she was more than okay? with peace & love ✌🏻
i’m not trying to be argumentative, but is it really a big deal to say her name for a shadow color? like james used his family and friends in his palette.
i was thinking this the other day. you're gonna tell me they were together for years and she knew NOTHING about all the shitty things they've done?? yeah... ok...
trisha talking about how she sees her 19 year old self in tana and how it’s gonna mess up her mental health in the future is so sad. but it’s so true and its a good thing that trisha has now realized she was being “used and abused” (as she said) and can educate others on it
Yeah I've been saying this for a few years, I just don't have internet clout. One day in the future (days are long, but years are short - &the future will be here very fast) Tana is going to look back and regret so much. And the regret will be compounded by guilt and anxiety and it will slowly eat her into a depressive state where she is second-guessing every decision she ever made to the point where she won't even be able to focus on the present or future. It will consume her and by the time she gets help to mentally stabilize herself, she will be depressed all over again at how long and how much effort it takes to attempt to reverse the damage. Alot of which, in some extent, is connected to being reckless and negligent. And one day, she will have to face herself and struggle with drawing a line between self-blame and self-care. And it will create way bigger of a mess (internally)than all of these 'scandals' combined created. Because it's one thing to feel out of control of your surroundings... but it's completely different to feel out of control of your mind. You can escape your surroundings as an adult, but your mind follows you. She needs to chill and really start reflecting now.
@William i see where you are coming from but tana being sexually taken advantage by older men, just like trisha went through, is a lot different than just being successful and people being jealous. don’t forget that. being sexually used and abused as a young woman isn’t gonna make you successful it’s gonna f*** up your mental health. trisha experienced that first hand and all she said was she sees it happening to tana and she DOESNT want THAT for her. not that she doesn’t want tana to be successful.
I went through the same thing as a teenager and it’s really true. You think it’s fine and that nothing can harm you if you just wait for it to be over. And then suddenly you’re thirty and have to go to therapy and struggle with everything. The harm that can be done to a teenager is devastating
Ethan does not get enough credit for being there for trish and her mental health, he cared about her like a baby sister and really stood up for her and was a good friend to her... i hope she realizes what she did wrong and kisses and makes up with them and allows moses to see his own fuckin sister...... breaks my heart when drama like this happens especially to family.
Trisha talking about the long-term effects of letting people do whatever to you when you're young is like ..... so true. When you're like, 19 you'll just agree to some dumb shit and when you're older it really fucks you up, ESPECIALLY if it was sexual.
Oh they showed her loyalty more than any friend she’s ever had! You can bet if anyone sneezes In Ethan’s direction Trisha will post an exposé and a weeks worth of drama to take down the enemy 😂 I think H3 will have a hard time getting rid of her if Her and Moses don’t work out 😂 Trisha’s loyalty is unreal
@@emmaking6121 who did Trisha physically assault? Are we listening to drama channels who hate her and make up anything or do you have actual evidence of this?
Trisha def messed up, I just feel for her because I have bad mental health as well, however her behaviors are inexcusable regarding her mental health. I think she uses the term gaslighting too much and at the wrongs times. I think things should've stayed offline. I can think a lot of things but unfortunately it won't change the past. It seems now that they're both healed and thriving and I wish them both the best
@@snorlax4896 I agree. The sad thing is that now that Moses’ family wasn’t invited to the wedding and I’m sure no one has met the baby. These are things that cause huge riffs in a family a take A LOT to overcome. It will take Trisha extending a huge olive branch to Moses’ entire family before anything can be repaired. Maybe she will be less stubborn now that she’s a mom and she will work towards repairing their family but who knows.
On my yearly rewatch of the most iconic podcast ever and I’m still sad. not sure if their relationship is repairable :( I’m hoping if it’s right for both families, they can get back to a better place but a lot was said and done.
Trisha doesn't understand that Ethan & Hila have trauma related to the swatting incidents, so comments suggesting invading his family's privacy or safety triggers him.
@@sarahdiamond1999 exactly what it sounds like, I don’t remember the details but I’m sure if you looked thru the Internet you’d find details about the incident .
@@sarahdiamond1999 Ethan and Hila have been swatted twice. The second time it happened it was SO bad. The guy literally timed it so that just as Ethan and Hila with their NEWBORN baby got off the plane home they would have been gunned down. The guy who did it was arrested and was baisically a nazi so it was really traumatising for them and they moved house
What i hate out of all of the David and Jason and Don drama is that they have a decently young fan base, and those kids are going to think that its okay to treat people like that. Youre going to get a generation of kids that are abusing eachother because they've grown up to the clog squad and thought that their actions are acceptable and normal
I’m going to be so sad if this podcast ever ends. The banter between Ethan and Trisha is magic and so entertaining no matter what they’re talking about
Now the merch is sitting in the warehouse. “It’s going to be crazy if we get in this huge fight snd we have all these clothes” HE PREDICTED IT. SHES SO HAPPY getting a cut. And now we see how grateful she was. 🙄
@@mariewoods5793 it’s so sad and unfair for the fans, the family, and I came here as a Trisha fan but she is 100 percent in the wrong. Ethan lost a friend and I think the more I watch of this she never actually let him in as a real friend.
As a 21 year old I can’t even talk to 18!!! Or 19 year olds it’s weird and we don’t even have much in common like what can u do for me or talk to me about u can’t even buy liquor or go into most clubs at that age lmao I don’t understand the huge age difference mostly men go for in teenagers from 17-19 if they are in their middle 20s even .. I remnr I was groomed by men myself I was 17-19 and men 30-40 would want to be with me and it disgusts me to even think about it now
Idk, I feel like it depends on the context. Also as Ethan said you don't just become an adult when the clock hits 12. Did she just turn 17? Or almost 18...? And if she is happy and healthy then who are we to judge? I remember they made a whole video together (Brendon and the girl) as a reply to Trisha saying they are both happy... then again power dynamics and 7 years is quite a big age gap. I think it's much more of a grey area topic but the internet prefers black and white. props to you keeping it legal. Welcome to my thinking out loud rant, chime in ;)
I could cry when I see Ethan interact with Trisha. He’s so sweet and understanding and never makes her feel bad about anything. All without any pervy, flirty vibes, just genuine love and concern as a friend.
Cas H I hope so! I really understand why she’s so wary, I really do... but hopefully very soon she will realise how amazing Ethan is to her. He’s not only one of her truest friends now, he’s also family.
The thing that i love about this podcast, is that its named 'Frenemies' but Ethan is probably the most positive friend Trisha's ever had. He tells her the truth & is always upfront with her.
I'm 10 mins into the episode ans Trisha says nobody takes Logan seriously. Do they really need to defend Ethan? Lol Nobody takes Logan Paul seriously. Like literally
I've seen similar comments, but is this a thing that's happened often? Is this a repeating offense of James?? I know nothing and am unfortunately curious....
He calls out blaire white for putting people in her vids that dont agree with her viewpoints but he then proceeds to do the exact same thing in his own video 🤦♀️ hypocrite
With Trisha's manic extraness coupled with Ethan's depressive stoicism, both sides of my brain feel perfectly satiated. I don't know how long these two can do a podcast together. Yet these two balance each individual's approach to how to observe fame/infamy on the internet so.damn.well.
I actually think this recent Shane arc is strengthening their friendship. We all know that if Trisha is anything, it's loyal and after having two breakdowns on the podcast and having H3 not demonize her for it coupled with their ardent defense of her from Shane, Ryland, and especially Jeffree I think is affirming her trust in them. Not saying it's gonna be smooth sailing forever, but she's clearly becoming more and more comfortable with them and less antagonistic. It's been pretty incredible to watch.
ethan being a better friend to trisha in 5 minutes than shane in 12 years
Right?!?😂😂
💯
@@MADKC4Ever lol and she could be more supportive to Ethans feelings about being called the scum bag of TH-cam.
@@MADKC4Ever I don’t think that’ll happen for a long time
@@kebphotography4863 mjmjjm?ph
im ngl, the way ethan validates trishas emotions and then talks it thru rationally with her is super sweet and a great example. like as someone with bpd, ppl who talk me thru issues like that really help
Yassssss!! Like people really need to watch Ethan and Trisha because they are such a good dog good example of how to treat people with serious mental illness. He even makes me feel heard and understood even though I’m just listening. I think it’s so amazing to watch how he would react before versus now to how he reacts and to see how he has learned and grown with her
I feel like Trisha is well...Trisha because people and women particularly are always written off as "crazy" just for showing emotion or weakness in some ways and never got the emotional support she and every human needs. I'm glad she's doing better by the looks of it.
Exactly, I really appreciated when he talked through the logic of ignoring the little drama channels instead of writing her off as “crazy” or “overreacting”. I think that conversation was really good for both of them
Yes!!! If the other person get angry as well NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS! Us borderlines really need clear minded people around us to help sooth us out of our worked up state and Ethan does this PERFECTLY! He is so understanding and so kind! Trisha is on a great path and I hope she succeeds with it!!
I love how they compliment each other often :)
Trisha bragging about Hila’s design skills to people is my new favourite thing. Major supportive sister vibes!
This family are really growing and learning together! 😭
Which is amazing because I would never forgive the girl that physically assaulted my brother because he wouldn’t let her go through his phone
@@Featheon go take a deep breath. Hating for no reason
@@emmaking6121 Right? And after she breaks up with Moses she'll be shitting all over Teddy Fresh.
and it only took a gigantic diamond for this to happen
@@gladyslopez1922 I don't think they'll break up any time soon if they do
"It's gonna be crazy if we get into a huge fight and then we have all these clothes." BYE
haha when I heard that... damn he manifested that
It was my second thought after her hurting their family was the clothes.
Im sure everone is going to buy it to support ethan and hila... and the best thing is the trisha will know is just for them and not her
that aged like milk 😭
the rip frenemies drop
Trish: “I hate everyone this week “
Ethan: “I love that”
mood
me everyday
this is free therapy basically
Ikrrr
Yes
Literally was in the midst of a crying/screaming moment and saw this was uploaded ❤
Yess and I love ur tiktoks
It really is
The fact that Trish can genuinely ask Ethan if he thinks she is overreacting, and she can trust that he will give her a genuine answer and love her no matter what, makes me so happy (: she deserves to have a great support system in her life, she’s been deprived of that her whole life it seems and she’s really thriving now I love to see it
His authenticity with her and respect for her is so amazing. That’s true friendship. You know he’s not just in it for the drama when his response to her was to not let it bother her and waste her time. Its what she deserves and honestly I think it’s a great friendship for Ethan.
It makes me so happy that he matches her energy too. Like he’s so naturally calm but embraces her excitement. It kinda reminds me of Gru and the girls from Despicable Me lol
I’m so happy she has Ethan and Hila as family and friends, and especially Moses as a great fiancé! She now has all the amazing people to support and help her and I’m so glad about that! Trisha is amazing and I’m just so pleased for her as she really does deserve all of this! 💖
& the way he validated her feelings before even answering... this shit is beautiful
ethan: *completely rationalises trishas feelings without making her feel bad for the intensity she feels things*
also ethan: *gets his subs to lower logan paul’s wikifeet rating as revenge*
The duality of man
@@ShreeNation ☯️
Love that 😆
Logan Paul kinda deserves it though
Trisha’s standards for friendship is so low that she was suprised she was getting a cut...imagine how many times she was screwed over by her friends
yeah It was actually kinda sad when she reacted that way and so sweet when ethan said of course you get a cut
So true 💯%
She deserves nothing but love that asks nothing of her.
:(
So slow she won’t even back ethan up. If it’s not about her she doesn’t care
Shane could have had this kind of fun and genuine content with Trisha, but he was too embarrassed to be her friend.
And that’s the cold hard sad truth!
Unless she bought Shame gifts.
@@JNMKlover Shame on him, hey
Unfortunately shane isnt emotionally mature enough to converse with trisha like ethan does
then again, it’s probably for the best that she has someone like Ethan now instead of someone who was embarrassed by her
Never understood how David's content is drugs, sex and alcohol but he wins teen choice awards from Nickelodeon
Kids watch
yep lol
LMAO so fucking true. Dude posts everything that isn’t family friendly yet he gets everything handed to him.
@@H.E.M. he gives away to the community as well and he worked his way up tho
@Nessa found the 12 year old
I cannot get the people who enjoy this show more when they're fighting. Because the kinder they are to each other, the more enjoyable the show actually is
Their brotherly sisterly banter when they get competitive, and then them having each others backs when there's outside drama is them at their best. And they formed a proper joint sense of humour while on the show. Who wants to see them just miserable and hurting each other I don't get it. I miss this show a lot
Ethan diverting the conversation to Trisha’s hair when she was getting into the David/Jason stuff was really nice. He diffused her perfectly
he’s such a good friend💗 I’m so happy for Trish
Could you tell me a time stamp for that pls?
@@carlosss9871 the time stamp is 11:48
Imagine how her BP was rising and he flipped it.
@@katerinataneva am I the only one that thinks Ethan before was a jerk?
Trisha’s one liners are insane
“I ate food off the floor”
“I never swallow my food”
“That’s not even a dog, it’s a gargoyle”
“She needs to be grounded” killed me.
The gargoyle comment had me on the flooor 😂😂😂😂
I never swallow my food killed me
“When i was 19 i shoved a candlestick up my ass”
The "I'm an empath" at the end 😂
I really hope Ethan and Trisha’s relationship gets stronger and healthier. I think Trisha is doing so much better since leaving the vlog squad and she needs this positive outlet, even if they’re gonna be bumps along the way.
@Jasmine Diaz there like brother and sisters that are catching up after being away from each other in a while
she was never in the vlog squad
@@t800-t4c she was
The vlog squad never wanted her but she kept going back for a reason no?
They’re hilarious.
who else is rewatching frenemies since they ended it.....
Girl has..I'm so sad x
Yass* x
.. me
Same
Why would u spoil it wtf
AW the fact that Trisha was genuinely surprised when Ethan said she'll get a cut makes me wonder how much people have hurt/used her
RIGHT..
Dude frenemise has showed us all how much shit Trisha has gone threw in life and it makes me feel bad cuz when I was younger I used to shit on her but like would still watch her videos she’s so entertaining
@@teddybearaf1477 it might be jus me but for some reason I always got a vibe from trish it's hard to dislike her
Time stamp?
@@iamunique1792 4:41 🤍
trisha is unintentionally the funniest person ever. she literally has like lore
Her personality , the stuff she does and says is hilarious, she's not trying to be funny, she isnt a comedian who's whole thing is being funny, she's just naturally like that lmao
i still think they’re all intentional jokes but the structure/execution of her jokes is so indirect that it’s 10x funnier. like her subliminal message compilation post of groceries?? genius. also i love using the word lore any chance i get
trisha is the least funny person ever wtf
i feel like she's lived infinite lives
lmao trisha in her lore arc
Ethan supports Trisha 100%
Trisha: “we’re both scum of the internet.”
Trisha : I Like impaulsive
@@crazysarah98 that was the worst one
Honestly I wheezed I laughed so hard when she said that.
If it wasn’t about swatting where that hit so close to home for Ethan.... I’m sure that would have been funnier to the both of them...
I’m not sure trisha realized this was a legit sensitive spot for Ethan and she was trying to tell him it’s not that deep. But if Ethan pressed and reminded her he’s been swatted in the past where his kids as affected.... I’m sure trish would have corrected herself and been legit offended for him
The joke about a fight ruining their merch didn’t age well
No it aged well as it's literally what happened.
It actually did age well. Saying something didn't age well is saying,
"we're going to be together forever."
*Breaks up in five months*
That didn't age well.
@@theoneandonly7019 Perfect way to put it
Oh. At all.
It aged perfectly
That was such a sweet moment when Trisha asked if she was overreacting and Ethan told her she wasn’t but to not let that stuff ruin her mental health. That was great advice and he handled that well.
It was so precious. ❤️
Trisha you better ride for Ethan the way he rides for you! Don’t downplay his drama.
I agree!
* Trisha you better ride Ethan.
I second this!
@@thanatos_0. 😅😅
calm down
it makes me physically sick that the only way trisha could get david to not post things that made her uncomfortable was to take off her clothes and it still didn’t work. imagine how low she had to be at that point that she had to resort to that. it is absolutely horrible
I feel really bad for ever judging her because of that.
Hence abusing drugs. They did that, lots of people did that.
L
I hate that people see it as something to laugh at or blame Trisha for. All it takes is a second to put yourself in her position and you can understand how fucked up it was. And the fact that they were laughing in the video itself is disgusting.
@@AbigailNicolee I never knew Trisha had such terrible mental illness and addiction that she was struggling with. I feel bad for ever thinking she was "crazy" or another harmful stigma. I really appreciate her sharing her story and I've learned a lot from her.
the way Ethan fucking predicted the show breaking up before the merch could come out… I’m going to pass away now
The way Trisha listens to Ethan and actually asks for his opinion, then adjusts her mindset!
Growth!! 💖💖 True friends wants what is best for you and she’s gained that a new family to add to her own 🤗
It's how a healthy relationship works. I don't agree with ALL of their opinions, but it's still nice to listen to them
ikr i was like😮
This podcast truly lets Trisha speak her side of the story more clearly, because Ethan guides her away from overexaggerating and getting worked up. It’s really nice to hear her get her point across.
We love a nicely edited queen. 😊💜💓
And then she lies about what happened. She said in the other podcast that Jason stopped talking and blocked her because she ran her car into his house. How do you still fall for this shit? She IS a liar. And a domestic abuser. Primarily a liar
I loved the part where she was frustrated with the troll drama channels and Ethan started to offer advice on how to legally go about defamation. He didn't say she was overactive he related to her frustration, acknowledged they were just trolls and they both laughed and moved past it
Yes! I love their dynamic, Ethan is AMAZING with Trisha ❤️❤️❤️
@@emmaking6121 why do you think that
"Is this ok for you to watch?" Ethan is so sweet and understanding towards Trish.
i love how ethan asks trisha if it’s okay to watch a video of jason fat shaming her, in case it triggers her
he genuinely respects her and her triggers
No he’s afraid of her popping off
I truly believe Moses and this show saved Trisha's life
for sure
true....!!!
I’ve been following her life since 2011 and I completely agree she’s never been this genuinely stable
And thats great, but why does she look like shes mid-shart in the thumbnail photo?
yeah, to be honest, i still dont like her, but im glad shes happy!
Okay but Trisha coordinating her whole look off of the teddy fresh jacket is 🔥
Facts.
I have highly credible sources claiming this is “Trisha paytas” (tp) hint “tegan Payne” “tp”
Wonder where she got the wig from lol
@@OkamiSamaa lol I was talking about the crazy dude hair by jay
"it's so easy to not date a minor... it's very simple" was so funny omg
Wow the internet is so toxic...like I always thought Trisha was crazy but it was only through the perspective of David's vlogs...that's kinda scary
I've realized that everyone had an opinion about Trisha, but never watched a single one of their videos-- or, watched her videos only after hearing the story from other TH-camrs and so watching with unwavering prejudgment. I think this whole timeline of events proves that we as a society are not as 'woke' about mental illness as we believe.
You have a weak mind
@@liberatethruexposure No. We judge them because of their racist behavior. We judge them for repetitive problematic behavior. She hasn't changed much. But I will agree, how David portrayed them really downplayed her mental illness.
Ethan is so sweet to Trisha. He’s like a big brother to her
He rides for her and sometimes she doesn’t ride for him 😔
Big brother-in-law more like it, baby!
He treats her exactly the way my sister and I act. The "Dumbass who I'd fight a bear for" vibe
He's trying to get that 3some like David Dobrik.
I agree
Did Trisha for real just say “true” and drop it when she was challenged on something???? That’s GROWTH right there. Something about this friendship is DEFINITELY working
Thats what she's been like for a while it's only when she's having a mental health episode she won't let things go. Obviously this friendship is healthy but we don't need to act like she was totally useless beforehand
@@Dunlop86 I mean... she kinda was though. You can't convince me her entire time online up to now was a memtal health episode.
@@synonymous_ 😂😂
She does and has had other kinds of videos they just don't get as much traction. Like she says on here she let herself get triggered for the views.
It’s a shame she didn’t just let it go before she physically assaulted Moses
Thank you for pointing this out, I have complained about Trisha's behavior before, but I have gotten to understand her and her struggle so much better since then, and I think she has grown a lot as a person as well.
Love them both now, this show really is lightning in a bottle.
Of all the frenemies episodes, today's desk was the most aligned with the curtains. Just saying.
Yessss I noticed too after shredder bumped it, it was almost perfect 🤣
I NOTICED TOO
I like
😮
Lmfao I looked 😂💯 accurate
Cosmo and Wanda think they're so slick
Hi cheesecake
Trisha’s gotta have ethans back the way he has her back
legit!!!
I agree!
10000%!!!
Totally, you can tell he is still bothered by the Logan comment. Really demeaning
ethan saying "i think its the lexapro" while licking a glob of frosting off his hands and trisha saying "I'm an empath" at the end LMAO best podcast ever
Omfg I cackled at this
"we should get dominos"
Trisha: “They wouldn’t give me tampon”
Ethan: “Tampon?”
Trisha: “ANYWAY”
Ded
I mean what did she mean???
I wish we got an explanation
@@DebakelchenYo she wasn’t given proper toiletries to deal with her period, I think that’s literally all she means.
@@LluviaAva That's pretty sick
Wow I read this the second I came to that part prefect timing lol
This was the best time of my life when frenemies was happening. I truly got giddy and excited every week and actually had something to look forward to for the first time since I was a kid. Ugh
same
To be completely honest, this podcast really shines a light on why Trish has acted the ways he has for so many years. Im so sorry I ever thought you were insane. I know now by these videos you're clearly not, and you have better diagnoses of your instabilities which even further help you. Please don't end this series, we love them. And we love you Trish
YESSSSSS
I completely agree 🥺🥺🥺
love this
Jshs
Moses: "I like the dog but its scary."
Trisha: "It looks like a gargoyle."
Meanwhile, Hila: "I love the dog, I would adopt the dog."
Ethans laugh when Trisha said, “don’t act relatable” was so genuine and hilarious.
@@jugied 1:40:35
You can tell theyre like legit besties they laugh and talk so naturally together. He laughed like that when she said “I think you just do frenemies so you can eat with out hila yelling At you lol”
I'm so glad that Ethan pointed out the laughing in the Vlog Squad videos. Nothing they've ever done or said is that funny.
I CAN'T STAND IT ITS HONESTLY A LITTLE TERRIFYING
Underrated comment
I just realized that Trish is gonna be Theodore’s aunt
lmaoooo
aunt trishy
Lol Poor kid
Honestly she’s gonna be that rich aunt that gives expensive gifts for no reason 😂
@@edwinmartinez7777 lol Oh she'll try with all her might to buy that kid's love
nothing makes me laugh more than Trisha giving her *trigger warnings* AFTER she’s already said something off the wall
She tries
Love it!
she's soo pc
Trish being so surprised about getting a cut w the merch really shows how she’s gotten used over the years:( V thankful she found ethan
It's sad that it becomes her reality
THIS 😢
This made me so sad for her like whaaaat of course she deserves a cut!
It’s crazy that it didn’t even occur to her, but she’ll fly off the handle at much much smaller “perceived” slights.
maybe, or maybe she’s doing what shane did pretending to cry in the bathroom in his balenciaga hoodie if ykwim
I would sell my soul for this show to come back
They hate each other so much now, and all the family drama. There was a time when maybe but now is so loooong gone. 😭💔
@@WDGaster87 yeah, it's so sad to see it didn't work out
Thank you for taking one for the team.
When will you do it?
It’s not back on yet 😭
@@yooomama4295 waiting for Satan to hmu
FRRR
I love how trisha just stayed in costume since halloween
this has no business being funny
She's always been like this, she loves to dress up🥰
It's her thing now lmao
@@MissSweetieShortie after all she is a gay black man who does drag
I would dress up too if I could afford it but imma stay in my sweats and hoodie 😂
I wish Trisha would get behind Ethan like he does to her. He’s so passionate about her beef 😩
yeah!!! I think she's very cautious about defending people or showing emotions because everyone seems to fuck her over. I know Ethan loves her though and I wish she would open up with her true emotions more
@@Fa1ry no. She just doesn't give a shit if its not about her. Period
@@b1k2q34 you havent experienced Bpd and it shows educate yourself
@@mariahuerta7656 I don’t even have bpd and people have fucked me over so much I just expect the worst from everyone cause that’s easier for me to get through my life... I’m not disappointed if I don’t expect anything to begin with...
Ethan doesn't have alot of actual beef
That’s a really good point about Jeffrey using that hot pink eyeshadow called “Trisha” knowing it was using her likeness and didn’t give her a dime, yet he used Anna Nicole as a product and got sued from Anna Nicole’s estate for using her likeness and not paying her/them. Trisha should sue
I believe there’s footage out there where Shane got Trisha’s consent for it, so I don’t know if it would amount to anything. No sort of public consent for A Nicole though!
Shane did it as an homage to her. She even uploaded like two videos reacting to it cause she was proud and felt honoured that he named a shade after her. Why would she sue them if she was more than okay? with peace & love ✌🏻
As much as I hate jaafar, I would want trisha to just move on since she is in a happy place
i’m not trying to be argumentative, but is it really a big deal to say her name for a shadow color? like james used his family and friends in his palette.
Im not sure if she could , wouldnt he have to have used her full name? There are many trishas in the world. Im not sure how these things work.
so while David's under fire everyone's just gonna let Liza and the rest of them slide?
Glad someone finally mentioned Liza!
@@saraperry4397shes just as bad
i was thinking this the other day. you're gonna tell me they were together for years and she knew NOTHING about all the shitty things they've done?? yeah... ok...
wait what did liza do ?
@@lovergirl5013 right!! even in this video she makes horrible jokes with him
I just wanna say completely off topic that Trishas white liner look is SERVING
Ethan's everlasting death stare was SERVING
She is the clown of the show she really is a disgusting person
Ya bitch. Its fierce. And nobody says that or that
@@YetiCOOL112 well thats too bad. youre here anyways
Her da roomsfuckedj ice pw
Just
trisha talking about how she sees her 19 year old self in tana and how it’s gonna mess up her mental health in the future is so sad. but it’s so true and its a good thing that trisha has now realized she was being “used and abused” (as she said) and can educate others on it
Yeah I've been saying this for a few years, I just don't have internet clout. One day in the future (days are long, but years are short - &the future will be here very fast) Tana is going to look back and regret so much. And the regret will be compounded by guilt and anxiety and it will slowly eat her into a depressive state where she is second-guessing every decision she ever made to the point where she won't even be able to focus on the present or future. It will consume her and by the time she gets help to mentally stabilize herself, she will be depressed all over again at how long and how much effort it takes to attempt to reverse the damage. Alot of which, in some extent, is connected to being reckless and negligent. And one day, she will have to face herself and struggle with drawing a line between self-blame and self-care. And it will create way bigger of a mess (internally)than all of these 'scandals' combined created. Because it's one thing to feel out of control of your surroundings... but it's completely different to feel out of control of your mind. You can escape your surroundings as an adult, but your mind follows you.
She needs to chill and really start reflecting now.
please i literally coming back to find the clip its so sad i wish tana would hear this
@William i see where you are coming from but tana being sexually taken advantage by older men, just like trisha went through, is a lot different than just being successful and people being jealous. don’t forget that. being sexually used and abused as a young woman isn’t gonna make you successful it’s gonna f*** up your mental health. trisha experienced that first hand and all she said was she sees it happening to tana and she DOESNT want THAT for her. not that she doesn’t want tana to be successful.
I went through the same thing as a teenager and it’s really true. You think it’s fine and that nothing can harm you if you just wait for it to be over. And then suddenly you’re thirty and have to go to therapy and struggle with everything. The harm that can be done to a teenager is devastating
When she asked if she was “overreacting” and he straight told her how he felt plus she accepted WOW 👏👏 they’ve grown soo much
(27:55)
We LOVE an evolution 😎
Can you timestamp?
@@littlebird7590 maybe just watch the video?
@@littlebird7590 27:50
Ethan did a great job of validating her feelings, but also explaining that it's not worth her time and energy.
Ethan does not get enough credit for being there for trish and her mental health, he cared about her like a baby sister and really stood up for her and was a good friend to her... i hope she realizes what she did wrong and kisses and makes up with them and allows moses to see his own fuckin sister...... breaks my heart when drama like this happens especially to family.
I think it's pretty clear it's not Trisha preventing Moses from seeing his family - it's rather the other way around
And I love that he corrects her if she is wrong - respectfully.
With ✌️ and ❤️
Ya and how they both give each other different perspectives, i like
when was she wrong?
With peace and love
@@ImTheCookieMonster95 the DMCA thing
trisha’s whole fit today is amazing
yessss
When is it not amazing?
Yes it sooo cute
A QUEEN
@@ChadIsYourDadlol true😌
IM SO GLAD SHE MENTIONED THE “HERE FOR CHARLI” THING
LMAOOO
one of the most embarrassing things to happen to any teenager in history
I GASPED. I CHOKED. I LIVED. The entitlement, the buffoonery. Rip sophie
what's the time they talk about that?? i cant find it
Time stamp?
It broke my heart so much to hear the way that Jason spoke to Trish.
Trisha talking about the long-term effects of letting people do whatever to you when you're young is like ..... so true. When you're like, 19 you'll just agree to some dumb shit and when you're older it really fucks you up, ESPECIALLY if it was sexual.
Yep!
Yup
Speaking fro experience, yes it'd does.. for real
For real
YESSS!!!! also it’s so wild how every reply to this comment is in agreement. damn. the world really fucked us up.
Trisha with peace and love, Ethan’s cake is better.
Trish: “I hate everyone this week”
Ethan: “...we love that”
Lmao same
omg ñame twins 🥺❤️
love ur pfp fuck yeah smith club
Dude Frenemies is the best thing that the internet has produced in decades
it’s so funny when ethan teases trisha about the weird noises she makes after she says a sentence lolol
YES! Literally makes me LOL
Mmmhhmm~
Everyone has seen the viral clip 😂
Trisha baby, you better defend Ethan when anyone comes for him or H3.
That was making me angry.
Oh they showed her loyalty more than any friend she’s ever had! You can bet if anyone sneezes In Ethan’s direction Trisha will post an exposé and a weeks worth of drama to take down the enemy 😂
I think H3 will have a hard time getting rid of her if Her and Moses don’t work out 😂 Trisha’s loyalty is unreal
Ethan is already brutal enough though 😂
I think that she just had a different perspective, plus Ethan did talk for an hour and a half over a sentence that Logan Paul (of all people) said
I hate how people in the Lopez’s comments are saying “leave the drama in 2020” like sexual assault is not drama, pedophilia is not drama.
That’s take that same energy and apply it to Trisha. We’re not leaving physical assault in 2020
That’s so gross.
@@emmaking6121 who did she physically assault?
@@emmaking6121 who did Trisha physically assault? Are we listening to drama channels who hate her and make up anything or do you have actual evidence of this?
Yes girl
I'm really sad rewatching these. I loved them as friends so much. Ethan and Hila deserve better, though.
Trisha def messed up, I just feel for her because I have bad mental health as well, however her behaviors are inexcusable regarding her mental health. I think she uses the term gaslighting too much and at the wrongs times. I think things should've stayed offline. I can think a lot of things but unfortunately it won't change the past. It seems now that they're both healed and thriving and I wish them both the best
@@snorlax4896 I agree. The sad thing is that now that Moses’ family wasn’t invited to the wedding and I’m sure no one has met the baby. These are things that cause huge riffs in a family a take A LOT to overcome. It will take Trisha extending a huge olive branch to Moses’ entire family before anything can be repaired. Maybe she will be less stubborn now that she’s a mom and she will work towards repairing their family but who knows.
@@raeclair1373 ugh you said it so well, words right out of my mouth.
On my yearly rewatch of the most iconic podcast ever and I’m still sad. not sure if their relationship is repairable :( I’m hoping if it’s right for both families, they can get back to a better place but a lot was said and done.
Trisha looks bomb in that outfit it reminds me of cotton candy.
She’s serving frfr
ikr
YESS 👏
awwwww yummy
@@blndsundoll4mj queen
Ethan with the biggest smile telling Trisha he’s number one on wiki feet and expecting her to be more impressed hahahaha
I really wish she was tho he was so proud 😂😂😂 I was proud.
time stamp pls?
Trisha doesn't understand that Ethan & Hila have trauma related to the swatting incidents, so comments suggesting invading his family's privacy or safety triggers him.
yeah trisha defo needs to stand up for ethan like he does for her.
What’s the swatting incident?
What happened? Im new to this channel
@@sarahdiamond1999 exactly what it sounds like, I don’t remember the details but I’m sure if you looked thru the Internet you’d find details about the incident .
@@sarahdiamond1999 Ethan and Hila have been swatted twice. The second time it happened it was SO bad. The guy literally timed it so that just as Ethan and Hila with their NEWBORN baby got off the plane home they would have been gunned down. The guy who did it was arrested and was baisically a nazi so it was really traumatising for them and they moved house
What i hate out of all of the David and Jason and Don drama is that they have a decently young fan base, and those kids are going to think that its okay to treat people like that. Youre going to get a generation of kids that are abusing eachother because they've grown up to the clog squad and thought that their actions are acceptable and normal
I like the clog squad a lot!
Seeing ethans face slowly fill with sorrow as everyone voted against his cake was easily one of my favorite parts
He did get robbed.
He won, yes indeed
“Her parents need to like... ground her” -Trish talking about Charli LMFAO
My favorite part 😂
i mean shes not wrong like why r they letting this girl be part of the social media parade. set some boundaries
@@user-tl3sl2tu7e they are clout goblins. the dad is probably the monster of it all
She’d probably cut her parents allowance from her income
I’m going to be so sad if this podcast ever ends. The banter between Ethan and Trisha is magic and so entertaining no matter what they’re talking about
Agreed. I hope Trisha and Moses stay married forecer
This is literally the only podcast I can tolerate lol
So true. Their bond is amazing
@@eelyab same! They’re usually so boring but not this one
Im literally dying at “moses vote doesnt count hes literally scared of trisha “
hahaha oh my god I miss so much of what Trisha says even though I watch this podcast more than once! how
True facts
@Kayla LS 1:48:13
Looks like a rainbow too
Because he will always side with her lol
ETHAN CALLING GOOGLE A BITCH EVERY TIME SHE ANSWERS HIM WRONG WAS SO HILARIOUS AND RELATABLE lol
Right? Literally me lol.
I do that with my Alexa haaha
TRISHA you need to ride for Ethan the way he rides for you. He always defends your honor.
THAT WAS NOT VERY CASH MONEY OF YOU
IM SAYYYINNNNN and Ethan isn’t even askin for much 😂
She'll turn on him the same way she TURNS ON EVERY SINGLE FRIEND she's ever had. Just wait.
not the "cash money" omg 🤣
Now the merch is sitting in the warehouse.
“It’s going to be crazy if we get in this huge fight snd we have all these clothes”
HE PREDICTED IT. SHES SO HAPPY getting a cut. And now we see how grateful she was. 🙄
@@mariewoods5793 it’s so sad and unfair for the fans, the family, and I came here as a Trisha fan but she is 100 percent in the wrong. Ethan lost a friend and I think the more I watch of this she never actually let him in as a real friend.
As a 24 year old, I could never even think about dating or having a relationship with a 17 year old. That’s a childdddd.
Right? 17 is still in high school. 24 is 1-2yrs out of college. Gross.
@@BB-ty6iy right. if genders are reversed everyone would be mad
As a 21 year old I can’t even talk to 18!!! Or 19 year olds it’s weird and we don’t even have much in common like what can u do for me or talk to me about u can’t even buy liquor or go into most clubs at that age lmao I don’t understand the huge age difference mostly men go for in teenagers from 17-19 if they are in their middle 20s even .. I remnr I was groomed by men myself I was 17-19 and men 30-40 would want to be with me and it disgusts me to even think about it now
Idk, I feel like it depends on the context. Also as Ethan said you don't just become an adult when the clock hits 12. Did she just turn 17? Or almost 18...? And if she is happy and healthy then who are we to judge? I remember they made a whole video together (Brendon and the girl) as a reply to Trisha saying they are both happy... then again power dynamics and 7 years is quite a big age gap. I think it's much more of a grey area topic but the internet prefers black and white. props to you keeping it legal. Welcome to my thinking out loud rant, chime in ;)
It's not pedophilic, but it's still illegal
Trisha: *stands up*
Ethan: *confused* “Are you going somewhere?”
I could cry when I see Ethan interact with Trisha. He’s so sweet and understanding and never makes her feel bad about anything. All without any pervy, flirty vibes, just genuine love and concern as a friend.
I KNOWW. I wish Trisha gave him the same ride or die energy she gave Shane :(
@@nnf1611 right!
@@nnf1611 I think she will get there
Cas H I hope so! I really understand why she’s so wary, I really do... but hopefully very soon she will realise how amazing Ethan is to her. He’s not only one of her truest friends now, he’s also family.
The thing that i love about this podcast, is that its named 'Frenemies' but Ethan is probably the most positive friend Trisha's ever had. He tells her the truth & is always upfront with her.
“She needs to be like... grounded” why did that kill me lmaooo
Lmaooo that's what got me too
what’s the time stamp?
How’s you’d type the message if you’re deceased.
@@abigailornelas7728 1:23:20
I mean 1:25:20
“You have maids here everyday don’t try to act relatable” 💀
Lmao
Im convinced everytime Trisha says "bonus points" Ethan has a small cardiac event.
“It’s gonna be crazy if we get in a huge fight and we have all these clothes”
He literally spoke the future lol
"MOSES DOESN'T COUNT, HE'S LITERALLY AFRAID OF TRISHA" HAD ME ROLLINGGGGGG
both cakes were horrendous but ethan’s was slightly less horrendous. thank u.
Agreed. I could actually tell what ethans was supposed to be
Yeah, all that added saliva really did the trick huh
@@41Leandra thats what she said
TRISHA! SUPPORT ETHAN!!!
Honestly, his little face when you were backing Logan Paul was heartbreaking! 🥺🥺
🙄
Rightttt
Ikr :( it hurt to watch :(
EXACTLY! He backs her up this WHOLE ass video when he didn’t have to.
I'm 10 mins into the episode ans Trisha says nobody takes Logan seriously. Do they really need to defend Ethan? Lol
Nobody takes Logan Paul seriously. Like literally
Holy shit, I never knew Liza was racist like that. Her and David cracking tf up about being blatantly racist to asians is just ABSURD.
I was so shocked when I saw that too
Ive never been a liza fan but i think she for sure changed and grew and he brought out the worst in her
I’ve literally never liked her she’s always been a try too hard. She was never funny never got the appeal from her
she's so unfunny...also ppl loved doing blatantly racist things and calling it comedy up until lke 2019
cant wait for James Charles to casually release a black and pink hoodie lol
Bahahahaha he needs to do it
It'll be "different" because the pink and black will be on opposite sides hahahahah
LMFAO ikr hes so creative and original
I legit said that before I read this comment! 😂😂
I've seen similar comments, but is this a thing that's happened often? Is this a repeating offense of James?? I know nothing and am unfortunately curious....
"D'Angelo has too much time on his hands, it's scary" IT'S HIS JOB LMFAO
OK WAIT ! She went on her tik tok and kind of took back her statements about him !
Its also a pandemic!
I dont mind D’angelo but i always get this vibe from him like me good you bad so i can see where trisha comes from
She means he doesn’t have a life of his own cause he’s always talking about other people lol
He calls out blaire white for putting people in her vids that dont agree with her viewpoints but he then proceeds to do the exact same thing in his own video 🤦♀️ hypocrite
With Trisha's manic extraness coupled with Ethan's depressive stoicism, both sides of my brain feel perfectly satiated. I don't know how long these two can do a podcast together. Yet these two balance each individual's approach to how to observe fame/infamy on the internet so.damn.well.
Damn that was phrased so well 😭😂
I actually think this recent Shane arc is strengthening their friendship. We all know that if Trisha is anything, it's loyal and after having two breakdowns on the podcast and having H3 not demonize her for it coupled with their ardent defense of her from Shane, Ryland, and especially Jeffree I think is affirming her trust in them.
Not saying it's gonna be smooth sailing forever, but she's clearly becoming more and more comfortable with them and less antagonistic. It's been pretty incredible to watch.
Literally the only podcast I’ll watch for the whole 2 hours
I almost felt attacked from you using the word "manic" as a descriptive term, but the way you worded the rest cleared the anger from my brain 🤣
Anyone else rewatching this series in 2022?
Literally watching it the same day as you lol
I’m watching it for the first time! The best shit show
Nah 2023
I miss them together so bad as friends I sleep to this podcast
i cant stop i’m like addicted, help
"im gonna have to internalize this and deal with it later"
me, 24/7
wait does anybody know the timestamp
Oh man this is not the same thing at all. Logan and Ethan were not best friends and have years of friendship.
@@BronwynAlexandriaa did you reply to the wrong comment?
@@Abigail-sq7ck 34:49
@@MsAmErIcAnPrInSeSs thanks!
Ugh, I'm living for Trisha's pastel look. Kawaii Queen
We stan a pastel queen
This look and her bright magenta pink hair look is how I want to look everyday. Her lewks are 😍😍😍
@@vliciouss she looks like ur profile pic
@@greymilk she does I didn’t realize that ☺️💜
@@vliciouss same omggg
I need this podcast back in my life... :(
Ethan’s dog cake is way better lmao but trish gets A for effort
The cake-off was hilarious. More of that kinda stuff, less boring gossip drama talk, please...
Definitely way better
Periodt
The “i’m an empath” joke trisha made at the very end where nobody heard her KILLED ME 😂💔
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING
@@morganscot2061 at 1:55:05
Omg