Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the blade making community. You’ve accomplished better results with recreating a wootz like metal than anyone I’ve seen.
I was one of the people who asked a long time ago. Thank you for sharing the information on making the crucibles. You are a legend and I love watching you make your knives. Thank you from Australia 👍
Fantastic video! Thank you! I would be extremely interested in getting a list of exact measurements, and possible links to vendors of the materials. I am interested in attempting this, and would like to get the process perfected.
Much love and appreciate the behind the scenes that everyone has been asking for for so long now! I’d love to one day be able to make something on this level. Maybe in another lifetime.
I always wondered if you made your own crucibles as I know to buy they're not cheap. Thank you for showing this process, much respect from here in the UK.
a very very very big thanks for share your knowledge and your process!! you don't know how i can be happy to learn from one of the best wootz master in the world!!! thanks you again and again and again!!!!!! please never stop to create videos and make knives!!!
Thank you so much for sharing. You are very generous with your knowledge and watching you work has always been thoroughly enjoyable, I always love watching your creations come together. Another big thanks from Australia.
I like your crucible construction ! Well done …. Id avoid the use of bearing steel as this tends to have Cr in the mix and this was not an element that was in ancient wootz steel. very nice video
First I must say I am amazed at your work, I am a welder here in US. And love working with steel and wood, May I ask where you get your graphite for you crucible mixture? And I admire you artistic work, Amazing.
Assuming 525g final weight at 7:30 ~33% whole bearings (173g/525g=33.33%) ~58% bearing balls (303g/525g=57.71%) ~9% iron powder (46g/525g=8.76%) It looks like he adds around 2g of graphite at the end, though that's just an estimate. Maybe 0.5%? If you're considering steel strength, you would want around 0.5-1% carbon by weight. The ball bearings he uses are likely 1% carbon already, so you might adjust the recipe he's showing here to have more iron powder and less graphite powder. Glass powder is just flux, enough to cover the top will work. Not precise. The most important things seem to be the use of different sized bearing steel (chromium steel) parts and iron dust to create the wootz pattern, plus a little carbon (graphite). For anyone looking to try this, you might use this recipe: ~90% Chromium steel parts of various sizes ~9.9% Iron powder ~0.1% Graphite powder + Enough glass powder to cover the top
@@N1ck00 Thank you for that break down of the steel. That does help for when I want to do this later. However, I was asking about the crucible itself, not the metal going into it.
@@daveprokop1917 The glass creates an atmospheric barrier to prevent oxidation of the steel while it's molten. Without the glass, the steel will oxidize and lose carbon content.
This is another amazing video! Do you have to re-build the furnace every time you create an ingot? Also, what types of steel work best for wootz? I think I've read the ball bearings are often high in chromium. Great video! 👍
If you want to get pretty close to the composition of historical wootz steel you might try melting 1 part W2 steel(for the vanadium) to 9 parts wrought iron with enough charcoal powder to get the total carbon content up to 1.5%. The chromium from ball bearing steel is a carbide former, but it will be somewhat different than vanadium, and I don't know how much you would need to use.
Esse é o vídeo que todos os que amam a cutelaria esperavam. Contém a receita da fabricação do cadinho e outros detalhes. Muito obrigado por compartilhar.
It's amazing how inclusive the blacksmithing community appears. However, so many processes and techniques are shrouded with secrecy. A lot of questions are met with either extremely technical jargon, or vague brush over. Thank you so much for this video. Still leaves a lot of questions for the green, but at least gives a comprehensive step in the right direction.
… Because a lot of things are rather technical or require skill accrued from practice to do. So you have a simple version, and the actual technical explanation; wait, what’s the complaint again, if there is clearly both being presented? Also, very few things are secret in blacksmithing anymore, anyways. Hell, do you know how dangerous molten steel actually is? Drop that on concrete or anything wet and you have an uncontrolled explosion with shrapnel and molten iron. If you want the technical info, go to blacksmithing forums and not youtube.
@@farmerboy916 I do surf the forums when I am in search of information. The closest I found to an instructional for wootz/crucible steel. Was basically a journal entry cataloging one person's experience working with the metal and how he made cast iron several times. Not how he made it. "I put it some high carbon steel and a low carbon steel to balance it out between 3-5% carbon content. Topped it off with some glass, I prefer champagne bottle. Then I put it in the furnace for a while until it's melted." Yeah very helpful. Thanks. No mention of method, fuel source, or even an actual duration. Now,... Google isn't my friend. Many an hour I have wasted trying to find information. Only for the topic to come up shortly after in conversation and someone will list off a bunch of sources. TH-cam is not the be all/end all of quality information. But sometimes it is the only place to find an explanation. Thanks for the input
@@cameronroberson1114 If you really want the best source out there especially on YT, it’ll probably be Neils Provos. Old videos but good. Admittedly, some of the old thread and forums may have died now, but I suspect there’s more than that. Think about what you’re asking; it’s crucible steel usually done with a closed top, so fuel or heat source technically doesn’t matter a whit (even open top is only going to have so much effect one way or another depending on carbon compared to the atmosphere), and each home constructed foundry is going to have different capabilities and requirements and run differently. Any refined fuel is going to run hot enough for you with enough air, at least in theory. As well, until you break out digital scales and start working with pure or specific known compositions there’s not really any ability to have material consistency between people. As well, what’s your goal? To make good steel and alloy, to make it from scratch for the novelty or for the challenge, to imitate classical wootz/ bulat (and to what degree), to recycle material? Some are much more difficult. With this many variables no one wastes time trying to write a comprehensive guide, you’re going to have to pick a direction and estimate and troubleshoot.
inclusive? i see people sh!t on pattern welded knives/etc all the time and scream "iTs NoT tRuE dAmAsCuS!!". Especially on youtube shorts or shorter form content, maybe their way more inclusive on forums or in real life, but in youtube specifically i see plenty of hate
make a rectilinear billet of this and see if it will forge weld to different modern alloys as a series of experiments each with its own video. that would be epic.
True wootz will come from the mine of Salah Ah Din. There's a 3% vanadium content in that ore that isn't present in other areas, which made for exquisite patterns once drawn out.
3% vanadium ??? No. No way. Maybe 0.003% or 0.03%, but not 3%. A tiny amount of vanadium is enough to change the pattern of a wootz steel, and vanadium is rather rare in ores.
@jeanladoire4141 it's not about the pattern, it's about the properties that the vanadium imbue into the steel. Those swords were known to flex in combat and then come back to being true after each strike. The mine that Salah Ah Din used was found again, and the composition of the ore was determined from samples taken.
@@gra4279 ancient wootz steel didn't have significant vanadium content, it didn't affect the properties of the steel like with modern steels. Larrin Thomas recently made a video on his tests of wootz (following the ancient compositions) and the performances were pretty bad. Hard steel, but very brittle. A lot of ancient wootz swords weren't even hardened, by fear of breaking them. Tiny amounts of vanadium only had effects on the pattern, and not much more
This very interesting and I have to ask how or where do I get the material for the crucible that is all I need to know. This is very educational I really appreciate the time you took to answer questions. Thanks I'm a beginner who is very determined to learn knife making so again thanks.
What is the average time to cooking the steel? Thats the only cuestion that left, all the video is well made to get the metallurgical knowledge thank you
Our boy FZ has done it again!!! I am sooo proud of your work and the video with all of the scrap Wooten and differs metals in your other video was awesome!!!! Would you ever make blades from this process for the market? Best regards from your New York people and be well!
Это всё замечательно, сам присутствовал при подобном процессе лет 15 назад. Возможно ли узнать Ваш рецепт изготовления тигля, а варить можно всё, что угодно, почти, как суп... Привет из Клина, удачи...
Thank you! I was just wondering how you do this while watching one of your videos the other day. One other question, why did you stop leaving a hole in your lids?
That was really cool but i must admit, i didnt expect you to make steel from premade steel. I was hoping for using earthly compounds to create your ingot. But none the less, really cool and informative video!
Hello, thank you very much for the video. Would it be possible to know the quantities of each powder (fireclay, chamotte, alumine, graphit ) that you mix to make the crucible please. Thank you and good day
Very nice. Have you ever gotten any ore from the woods mine around Damascus or wherever? They say it makes the prettiest pattern and maybe the most carbides? I forget the Mines name. It's the famous one owned by a king long ago. Anyways it's said to make the best stuff for some reason I forget what is was in the ore than made it special. I'm sure you know tho
So, what is it that gives the wootz pattern? Is it the alloying agents in the ball bearing steel, or is it something to do with the process? Also, is it possible to make those crucibles with cheaper materials? Very, very cool work. Cheers!
You have been asking for a long time how to make a steel melting furnace and a crucible. We decided to film the crucible making process for you.
is that a regular red brick or refractory brick 🤔🤔🤔
Thank you very much, always love seeing the making of the steel
Thank you very much for this!!!!! This is the video I have been waiting for!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the blade making community. You’ve accomplished better results with recreating a wootz like metal than anyone I’ve seen.
So you allow the crucible to air dry? Does it actually take a whole month, or is it faster? And could you bake it in the oven to speed up the process?
It’s extremely nice of you to show everyone this. It’ll doubtlessly entice others to tear this journey.
Ура!!! Видео, после которого не остаётся "глупых" вопросов. Мастер как всегда порадовал. Спасибо!
А вопрос про использование ингредиентов для тигля? Слепить то можно, но из чего?
I was one of the people who asked a long time ago. Thank you for sharing the information on making the crucibles. You are a legend and I love watching you make your knives. Thank you from Australia 👍
THANK YOU
This shows how much hard work is involved behind the scenes in making your beautiful knives! Thank you for a peek behind the curtain! Slava Ukraini!
Geroyam Slava
Fantastic video! Thank you! I would be extremely interested in getting a list of exact measurements, and possible links to vendors of the materials. I am interested in attempting this, and would like to get the process perfected.
That’s true craftsmanship - start to finished product.
Thank you for sharing the information on making the crucibles. You are a legend
Thanks 👍
This is the reason why that I follow you. That's the very wootz steel I've imagined and been looking for.
Much love and appreciate the behind the scenes that everyone has been asking for for so long now! I’d love to one day be able to make something on this level. Maybe in another lifetime.
I always wondered if you made your own crucibles as I know to buy they're not cheap. Thank you for showing this process, much respect from here in the UK.
Yes!!! So cool!!! Thank you for sharing this video!!! This has to be the most important knife making video on TH-cam!!!
You have killed one of my curiosity's. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👍👍👍👍👍👍
wow, I never thought that take so much work, congratulations on your craftmanship, from Argentina
Thank you, that was very cool seeing how it is done like that. Hope you and your family are safe and healthy.
Thanks 👍
a very very very big thanks for share your knowledge and your process!! you don't know how i can be happy to learn from one of the best wootz master in the world!!! thanks you again and again and again!!!!!! please never stop to create videos and make knives!!!
Thanks 👍
Thanks so much for sharing this, and also for all your other videos ! I never miss one !
Thanks 👍
Thank you so much for sharing. You are very generous with your knowledge and watching you work has always been thoroughly enjoyable, I always love watching your creations come together.
Another big thanks from Australia.
Merci pour cette démonstration, pour fabriquer un four de fusion et un creuset pour l'acier wootz. 👌
I like your crucible construction ! Well done …. Id avoid the use of bearing steel as this tends to have Cr in the mix and this was not an element that was in ancient wootz steel. very nice video
First I must say I am amazed at your work, I am a welder here in US. And love working with steel and wood, May I ask where you get your graphite for you crucible mixture?
And I admire you artistic work, Amazing.
Thank you SO MUCH for showing us how to make these! Thank you thank you thank you!
Thanks 👍
I have a smelter, never used it. Think I will and do a video, thanks for inspiring me
I love watching you make wootz steel amazing
Thanks
Thank you for sharing this information. I hope that one day I will be able to utilize this information.
Wow!
Before this video, I used to think that these videos are somewhat a video editing trick.
This is amazing!....
Приветствую ! Ну вот , наконец то показал весь процесс изготовления заготовок под отличные ножи !!! ;)
Thank you for sharing your process, and also the beautiful work of your finished knives. You have inspired me to try out some of your methodology.
Magnificent - thank you so much for making this video
👍
I love watching your videos. They are always fun. Could we get general amounts of the materials you used for the crucibles in the mix?
Assuming 525g final weight at 7:30
~33% whole bearings (173g/525g=33.33%)
~58% bearing balls (303g/525g=57.71%)
~9% iron powder (46g/525g=8.76%)
It looks like he adds around 2g of graphite at the end, though that's just an estimate. Maybe 0.5%?
If you're considering steel strength, you would want around 0.5-1% carbon by weight. The ball bearings he uses are likely 1% carbon already, so you might adjust the recipe he's showing here to have more iron powder and less graphite powder. Glass powder is just flux, enough to cover the top will work. Not precise.
The most important things seem to be the use of different sized bearing steel (chromium steel) parts and iron dust to create the wootz pattern, plus a little carbon (graphite). For anyone looking to try this, you might use this recipe:
~90% Chromium steel parts of various sizes
~9.9% Iron powder
~0.1% Graphite powder
+ Enough glass powder to cover the top
@@N1ck00 Thank you for that break down of the steel. That does help for when I want to do this later. However, I was asking about the crucible itself, not the metal going into it.
Fantastic video ive wanted to know how to do this for ages but couldnt find enough information thank you.😊👍
Thank you for posting this. I have been wondering about the furnace aspect for a long time.
Thanks for sharing love you knife work and steel making.
Very cool , thanks for showing us how you do this from start to finish. I enjoy your videos. Keep on cooking
Thanks
Excellent and very interesting instructional video. Thank you very much!
Thanks 👍
Wow! Never knew how much work was put into the making of these beautiful knives you make
Why the glass
@@daveprokop1917 The glass creates an atmospheric barrier to prevent oxidation of the steel while it's molten. Without the glass, the steel will oxidize and lose carbon content.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper did not know that. Thank you. Take care
Very cool to watch making ingots process start to finish
Дякую за вашу роботу. Натхнення вам. Дякую за рецепт галини для тігеля))) Два вогнестійкої глини, два шамотної глини і три графіту?)
This is another amazing video! Do you have to re-build the furnace every time you create an ingot? Also, what types of steel work best for wootz? I think I've read the ball bearings are often high in chromium. Great video! 👍
If you want to get pretty close to the composition of historical wootz steel you might try melting 1 part W2 steel(for the vanadium) to 9 parts wrought iron with enough charcoal powder to get the total carbon content up to 1.5%. The chromium from ball bearing steel is a carbide former, but it will be somewhat different than vanadium, and I don't know how much you would need to use.
@@garethbaus5471 This is fascinating to me - I read the old Pendray articles way back when, but metallurgy is pretty far over my head.
Always like the way your knives turn out, what temperature do you have to reach to make the materials melt? Thanks
Esse é o vídeo que todos os que amam a cutelaria esperavam. Contém a receita da fabricação do cadinho e outros detalhes. Muito obrigado por compartilhar.
Dear FZ,謝謝您分享這麼好的解說影片
Very cool video. I like how you do it all from scratch but I know that every brick layer who watched, shook his head and smiled😆.
Great setup! Would love to try at some point.
you do a magnificent job! we see that you are passionate
Know that if this, “Wootz” steel forging doesn’t pan out. You’ve got a future in dramatic hand modeling
I always wondered how you made that!!!
Do you have to restack all the bricks each time?
I didn't know you could actually MAKE a crucible like that, or at all....thank you!
The arcane knowledge is revealed!
😁👍
Many thanks to you mr.fz
It's amazing how inclusive the blacksmithing community appears. However, so many processes and techniques are shrouded with secrecy. A lot of questions are met with either extremely technical jargon, or vague brush over.
Thank you so much for this video. Still leaves a lot of questions for the green, but at least gives a comprehensive step in the right direction.
… Because a lot of things are rather technical or require skill accrued from practice to do. So you have a simple version, and the actual technical explanation; wait, what’s the complaint again, if there is clearly both being presented? Also, very few things are secret in blacksmithing anymore, anyways.
Hell, do you know how dangerous molten steel actually is? Drop that on concrete or anything wet and you have an uncontrolled explosion with shrapnel and molten iron. If you want the technical info, go to blacksmithing forums and not youtube.
@@farmerboy916 I do surf the forums when I am in search of information. The closest I found to an instructional for wootz/crucible steel. Was basically a journal entry cataloging one person's experience working with the metal and how he made cast iron several times. Not how he made it. "I put it some high carbon steel and a low carbon steel to balance it out between 3-5% carbon content. Topped it off with some glass, I prefer champagne bottle. Then I put it in the furnace for a while until it's melted."
Yeah very helpful. Thanks. No mention of method, fuel source, or even an actual duration.
Now,... Google isn't my friend. Many an hour I have wasted trying to find information. Only for the topic to come up shortly after in conversation and someone will list off a bunch of sources.
TH-cam is not the be all/end all of quality information. But sometimes it is the only place to find an explanation.
Thanks for the input
@@cameronroberson1114 If you really want the best source out there especially on YT, it’ll probably be Neils Provos. Old videos but good. Admittedly, some of the old thread and forums may have died now, but I suspect there’s more than that.
Think about what you’re asking; it’s crucible steel usually done with a closed top, so fuel or heat source technically doesn’t matter a whit (even open top is only going to have so much effect one way or another depending on carbon compared to the atmosphere), and each home constructed foundry is going to have different capabilities and requirements and run differently. Any refined fuel is going to run hot enough for you with enough air, at least in theory. As well, until you break out digital scales and start working with pure or specific known compositions there’s not really any ability to have material consistency between people.
As well, what’s your goal? To make good steel and alloy, to make it from scratch for the novelty or for the challenge, to imitate classical wootz/ bulat (and to what degree), to recycle material? Some are much more difficult.
With this many variables no one wastes time trying to write a comprehensive guide, you’re going to have to pick a direction and estimate and troubleshoot.
inclusive? i see people sh!t on pattern welded knives/etc all the time and scream "iTs NoT tRuE dAmAsCuS!!". Especially on youtube shorts or shorter form content, maybe their way more inclusive on forums or in real life, but in youtube specifically i see plenty of hate
@@IllNacs … So you see people say something pedantic but true, and say it’s awful because of that? Grow up.
Amazing as always! Thank you for sharing your secrets and art
make a rectilinear billet of this and see if it will forge weld to different modern alloys as a series of experiments each with its own video. that would be epic.
True wootz will come from the mine of Salah Ah Din. There's a 3% vanadium content in that ore that isn't present in other areas, which made for exquisite patterns once drawn out.
You are make some "true wootz" right now?
3% vanadium ??? No. No way. Maybe 0.003% or 0.03%, but not 3%. A tiny amount of vanadium is enough to change the pattern of a wootz steel, and vanadium is rather rare in ores.
@jeanladoire4141 it's not about the pattern, it's about the properties that the vanadium imbue into the steel. Those swords were known to flex in combat and then come back to being true after each strike. The mine that Salah Ah Din used was found again, and the composition of the ore was determined from samples taken.
@@gra4279 ancient wootz steel didn't have significant vanadium content, it didn't affect the properties of the steel like with modern steels. Larrin Thomas recently made a video on his tests of wootz (following the ancient compositions) and the performances were pretty bad. Hard steel, but very brittle. A lot of ancient wootz swords weren't even hardened, by fear of breaking them. Tiny amounts of vanadium only had effects on the pattern, and not much more
Awesome! Thank you. I have been wondering what your crucible recipe is
Дякую вам за це відео
This very interesting and I have to ask how or where do I get the material for the crucible that is all I need to know. This is very educational I really appreciate the time you took to answer questions. Thanks I'm a beginner who is very determined to learn knife making so again thanks.
materials in stores)
@@fz-makingknives3663 not finding chamotte clay powder. Thank you very much for the tutorial!
Is there a link reporting the details of what happened? What did you use to make your crucible? Temperatures & times?
What does the glass do?
Thanks for sharing!
Great video thanks for sharing very interesting to see how you make your crucial
Awesome traditional way ! For why you added glass before melted? Anti oxy layer ?
What is the average time to cooking the steel? Thats the only cuestion that left, all the video is well made to get the metallurgical knowledge thank you
Our boy FZ has done it again!!! I am sooo proud of your work and the video with all of the scrap Wooten and differs metals in your other video was awesome!!!! Would you ever make blades from this process for the market? Best regards from your New York people and be well!
That is so cool. It's a baby hockey puck waiting to transform into a bad ass razor sharp cutting instrument.
Very interesting video, do you have to build the forge every time you make a blade?
Takes dozens of times
Believe it or not, mountain dew is a better enchant for wootz than nitric acid.
Just curious... what's the purpose of graphite and glass???
The graphite is to provide carbon.the glass is act like a flux.
The crows approved!
I’m not familiar with wootz Steele is it better that Damascus or multiple folded high carbon
Это всё замечательно, сам присутствовал при подобном процессе лет 15 назад. Возможно ли узнать Ваш рецепт изготовления тигля, а варить можно всё, что угодно, почти, как суп... Привет из Клина, удачи...
So cool I though you just used normal concrete but it a mix of stuff! do you reuse the broken Crucible for the next Crucible or trash it?
Thank you! I was just wondering how you do this while watching one of your videos the other day. One other question, why did you stop leaving a hole in your lids?
Тепер треба пояснити як його правильно сформувати в лезо, щоб малюнок вийшов .
Дякуємо.
What are those little brick things that you used to burn? I am very interested!!
Thanks FZ. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
is there any draft on your crucible mold or does it just slide out no problem on its own?
That was really cool but i must admit, i didnt expect you to make steel from premade steel. I was hoping for using earthly compounds to create your ingot. But none the less, really cool and informative video!
Awesome! Thank you very much!
Thanks
Can i buy?
Nice work!!!... Loved the diy forge! Can you make a clay crucible?
You can make a crucible of fireclay chips and fireclay clay
@@fz-makingknives3663 thanks!
Very good
Thanks
Thanks. Can you grind up and recast the busted crucible? I assume you'd have to add new graphite each time but don't if it'd work.
Hello, thank you very much for the video. Would it be possible to know the quantities of each powder (fireclay, chamotte, alumine, graphit ) that you mix to make the crucible please. Thank you and good day
what if you throw some non-steel metals in there what would happen, could you make any usable alloys?
Thanks for sharing.👏👏👏🤜🤛
Amazing video.
Thanks
اتمنا لك دوام. الصحة عمل يستحق لاحترام وتقدير
Hello friend, allow me to ask you a question. Do you build the crucible for melting steel using cement? Cement, sand, and lime?
Thank you very much.
I had always read that the temperatures necessary to melt that quantity of steal required a bessemer blast furnace or arc furnace.
Good job mister
Thanks 👍
Thank you!
Thank you so much😍😍😍
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Ever see that vide and on Wootz Steel made from Jordanian Ore. Amazing
Great vídeo.
Thanks
Very nice. Have you ever gotten any ore from the woods mine around Damascus or wherever? They say it makes the prettiest pattern and maybe the most carbides? I forget the Mines name. It's the famous one owned by a king long ago. Anyways it's said to make the best stuff for some reason I forget what is was in the ore than made it special. I'm sure you know tho
Thank you for this video!!
So, what is it that gives the wootz pattern? Is it the alloying agents in the ball bearing steel, or is it something to do with the process?
Also, is it possible to make those crucibles with cheaper materials?
Very, very cool work. Cheers!
Why don't you do it more squared. To make the forging process easier