How about try and pay for yourselves not depending on others. Noone else but me got my addicted ass up and helping myself. If you don't want to fix it, it won't get fixed.
@petefisher2426 when are you going to interview this women’s children? They have asked you. We need that side of the story, to be prudent and objectionable on how addictions affect loved ones…especially when they try to provide help and it is denied by the addict.
Why should anyone think that the Taxpayer should Pay for any of this, Life is Not Free, unless you are willing to Follow the Rules of Society. This Life choice of some wanting to be Homeless has the Large Majority of Canadians Sickened & Angry. We want are Taxes cut off from Helping the Homeless, when once we did care for the Needy, This New age has Destroyed that Care & Kindness in Canadians. I did provide & Now I will never again.
What human rights would that be you troll? If you look up the first human right it is the right to life. That has absolutely nothing to do with the right to live. Since you're going to hack and slash, how's this one: the government bringing drugs sell them on the streets they have the police enforce it, it's all the business and they don't care who dies. The only people that don't get caught are the ones that are actually working for the police. Not conspiracy as United States does it and Colombian cartels cocaine traded to purchase weapons being bought and sold through the hands of the CIA to other cartels and gangs. The Ontario government, current government former government and future government don't care. The only thing they care about is making sure you live long enough to pay your taxes and that's it. How is that for trolling?
Whoa! What are you on about cia, columbians? I have to agree with him there…TweakEasy organizers/leaders said on video…”they just want to get high and not die…”. WANTING. So, as a taxpayer when you hear that….?
So funny I worked with the homless. Most are high all the time. I raised 2 kids by myself. I worked my BUTT OFF. I am 59 now and I sleep on a couch because I cant afford the RENTS!! IS THIS MY WONDERFUL THANKS FOR ALL I DID IN MY LIFE? WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME DO WE???? I have little sympathy for people who always have a sob story. Im not tellling a sob story Im actuality really worried about myself. What happens if I her sick and can't work anymore!!??
I understand your concerns, I'm sympathetic to your issues. I don't have problems with the unhoused. But you're absolutely insane if you think taking the prime realestate from a town which heavily relies on tourism is ok. I could think of 10 places off the top of my head that wouldn't negatively impact the businesses and livelihoods of those who rely on the business.
Huh....must be nice to live on the beach all summer ...work on my tan...get some tattys ...smoke up ...avoid work and not pay taxes. These folks have got it made.
Ya and they want the taxpayers to pay for it. She talks about responsibility to each other how about responsibility for yourself. Get a job work save money get a place to rent. There are 2 of them. If two people are working can't they get a bachelor apt between them.
Thank you Pete Fisher. Others should read posts from her poor children on Cobourg Politics, Facebook…another perspective! Talk about Heart-wrenching. We are supposed to work our butts off 9-5, while they get high on the beach? NO. She said she pays taxes. Uh NO.
Thanks for covering this Pete. The Federal and Ontario governments need to look at the Alberta model. "A recovery-oriented system of care is a coordinated network of personalized, community-based services for people at risk of or experiencing addiction and mental health challenges. It provides access to a full continuum of services and supports, from prevention and intervention to treatment and recovery". Its not something a municipality has the resources to manage.
Sorry Kim, we are all struggling. No way is my hard working ass going to pay for people who don’t want to help themselves. I am feeding my own kids!! Not like some who abandon theirs. No effing way. Leave them alone? They have a Giant sign saying Now Open! Open to sleep, tweak out, bring dealers to with guns. Land I pay taxes for!
I mean this in the most respectful way! Do the dealers live with you in your encampment? or are they up in a nice hotel because they have the money to afford it by selling you the drugs that are holding you in a dangerous position in your life. It’s not about what it is. It’s about where it is. She makes a super valid point that more people need to come together and come up with solutions immediately at the municipal and local level. The people of Cobourg don’t hate the people that use drugs. The people of Cobourg hate the drugs that are using the people. More funding, more services and more help are needed Now!
The province apparently downloaded housing to the municipalities. Thar means our property taxes go to pay for this. Why isn't this woman working how did she become homeless. She says being separated from her partner is unexceptable. Well she wants help but on her terms. When you are in this position you need to be adoptable to other ways of doing things. If you are not working and supporting yourself you have to make adjustments to the way you want to live. If you are not willing to do that then her and her boyfriend need to get a job and support themselves. They system is over loaded and people are going to have to take responsibility for themselves. It can't alwsys be one your free living lifestyle abd other people are responsible for you. I'd like to know how they became homeless to begin with. Unfortunately alot of people these days through no fault of their own are becoming in this position snd its really sad. But you have to make adjustments it can't be all your way. My opinion
Blah Blah..Blah... Yet she. Sits there with approximately $1000.00 in tats.. Cry me a river. And she's not the only one, hundreds of these. Encampment people have more ink that could be used for food or rent
The problem there is more a problem with drug use than anything else. A friend of mines rents a home for her children down near the beach and those people locked in her door with her children watching, terrified.
Thank you for covering this Pete and bringing these issues to the public light. They need to be discussed and should be, but there's a lot of nuance to it, and a lot of different people with a lot of differing ideas about how to make things better. Sometimes even in trying to do right by everyone things can get misinterpreted. Please though, I invite you to come talk to one of us at Transition House and get the full story if you'd like to talk about us; before trying to quote things or put words in anyone's mouth. We're all on the same side here. All the best.
If you are homeless, I really hate to say this but you do not have a choice when it comes to shelters. I do not care how long you've been together, when it comes to the cold seasons, I would sacrifice a little bit of time to have a safe and healthy environment to sleep but during the day you can see each other and maybe to to addiction treatment, or until you use the government resources to get on the Coburg or any city your in to regional housing, you can go to treatment for your mental illness, lack of life skills and budgeting, and she can say that her situation is not an addiction case but I do not believe a single word she says. If you truly wanna get off the streets and get your life on track you will sacrifice certain lifestyle choices to get your life on track. I know why she got booted out from her place if she left her door open to the homeless community then she looked like a flop house meaning water bills go up, hydro, and damage and cleaning. It's not prejudice to not want addicts in your apartment or rental properties. She is talking and thinking a mile a minute, she is on meth I know this because I was just like her. If you want change, it starts with your choices.
Yeah. But about the people who actually don't have an addiction problem and are homeless. And when the shelters are ful and you get turned away 4 or 5 times in a row.
This problem is so bad in Oshawa and sorry to be blunt, but the one's I see are high leaving needles and garbage all over...they don't want to work-they stand at different corners interrupting traffic for money and then to buy drug's... That's no life, and the mayor is doing nothing to fix it... The city and the police just seem to pass it back back and forth...it is frustrating
I have a brother in law who was living in an rv in different lots. But he wouldn't follow the rules. He kept stuff all around the camper instead of being low profile. He had druggies at the place. The owner tried to accommodate him but he was running a buisness and the customers complained and the by law officer stepped in. I let him park in my driveway and all he wanted yo do was watch tic toc drink and do nothing. His entitlement was just over the top. So i asked him to leave. Well he parked a couple places abd was stuck with no place to go abd i let him come back and the entitlement was worse. He spent all his money when he got his check at the bar and im liw income senior i was using what little i had to helo him and he was a nightmare so i told him to leave. 2 weeks later he got caught driving without insurance or a license they took his rv and now hes homeless. Its a mess. But the entitlement and the ill do things my way too bad if you dont like it was just too much. You cant help some people.
Stigma; transitive verb 1a: to describe or regard (something, such as a characteristic or group of people) in a way that shows strong disapproval Yes that is what addicts should be: Stigmatized. Drug induced behaviours should not be approved of. Common sense…or else we would have Anarchy. I am speaking from experience. Don’t sugarcoat the ugly.
I once knew a a wonderful man, he struggles as many do…but worked dang hard everyday. As his addictions grew greater he was presented with plenty of opportunities (some even handed to him on a silver platter), but sadly his warm home, wife,kids,pets,family became less valuable. His addictions overcame him and after many interventions he chose this “tent community” . Stop with all the none sense. You have an opportunity to have shelter but chose not too because your “partner” cannot come. Your partner should have your best interests at hand and insist you take this opportunity. So stop with the B.S. The hard working people of this community continue to support more than they can or should, only to see no results for their generosity…..yet the addicts and homeless get clean injection sights, handouts of tents, clothes food etc etc etc and only to continue to cry about how hard “these tent people” seem to still have it. 🤬 The single parents, the seniors, the small businesses they have it hard.Continuing to enable this “tent community” will only allow this selfish/entitled mindset to continue.
Don't forget, the city of Toronto is telling their citizens to pick up the dirty needles that it is their job to. One safe ejection site had a sign in window used needles for free chocolate. Like encouraging k8ds to.pick up needles.
I really hope that it's an extremely cold winter. No money but you have a phone to call bus on demand... tac payers you folks are not paying. Property tax or payroll tax.
I live in Cobourg too, IN MY CAR, im not far off from these folks, I work everyday. Things have really gone downhill the last year, work is slow, prices are up. Im sorry but i just dont have $1800 a month for a reasonable place to live
I'm not against the encampment (everyone's gotta live somewhere), I just don't think the current location is ideal. I know the area quite well and have concerns... 1)Storms can produce waves strong enough to reach the encampment, potentially endangering the encampment-residents and any emergency services required to assist them. On top of this, during storms large amounts of algae wash up on shore directly adjacent the camp which can generate nauseating(and potentially life-threatening) amounts of Hydrogen Sulfide through decomposition. 2)Lack of access to proper hygienic facilities(toilets, bathing, etc) increases risk of diseases/communicable infections to themselves and the general public due to the encampments location on a public-access beach. 3)Lake-effect winds, combined with tiny droplets of water generated by wave-action, produce an almost constant cooling which increases the risk of hypothermia, even in the summertime. 4)The use of open-pit fires for warmth/food preparation increases the risk of a conflagration in the nearby short-grass. It also exposes individuals in the general area who may have respiratory conditions(severe asthma, COPD, etc) to smoke/noxious fumes which may aggravate their medical condition. 5)Due to the waves crashing on the shoreline/sandbar the natural noise-level in the area is very high. This makes it difficult to hear individuals approaching, increasing the risk to the residents of the encampment. 6)Alcohol/drug-use at the encampment has resulted in an increase in violence(see link at the bottom for gunshots reported at the encampment aug/16) putting not only themselves at risk but the general public as well. 7)Being a "retirement-town"/tourist destination, Cobourg relies on the beach-front to attract tourists to generates revenue which goes into municipal funded social-assistance programs such as low-income housing, rehab clinics, subsidized-rental fees and more. A reduction in tourist-generated revenue results in an increase in property/land taxes for both businesses and residents. If, over time, the increase in taxation gets too high it will discourage economic growth, decrease property values and result in higher rental fees while decreasing the amount of affordable housing for low to middle-income residents. In other words, their presence on the beach *will* directly result in other low-income individuals being at increase risk of being homeless themselves. The biggest issue however is winter: As it approaches the residents will have to move due to cold weather/lake-shore winds but by that time the encampment may have grown so large there will be nowhere the residents can go without violating public/private-property trespass laws. I think in the best interests of the residents of the encampment it would be beneficial for them to relocate to a safer area where they have better access to the facilities/services to help them get back on their feet. Also, regarding The Cobourg Transition House: Yes, at the time of the eviction it has been confirmed that the Transition House did have 4 units available for the affected residents. However, due to a conflict with some of the rules of the Transition House the affected residents chose to not utilize it at that time. Please keep in mind I am not condemning people struggling with addictions but I am also not condoning continued self-harm(or harm to others) when treatment options(at no-cost) are available. Just my two cents. Link: (*) Cobourg Police Investigating Shots Fired at Encampment August 16, 2023 th-cam.com/video/d8BqqEVsuZc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=xi1r3X0Hc3IdoV7Y
People living outside in tents are not right. All levels of government need to make housing a priority for all people. Right now, this is not the Canada I looked forward to my children and grandchildren growing up in. Leave these people alone unless we can offer something better. Providing a bed to sleep at night, only to send them out in the morning with all they have is not a way to live. We need to provide a small place that they can go every day and leave their belongings safe. This will help them reenter the workforce for some of them. Medical assistance for others.
Leave them alone. She had options but it didn't suit her so she is out in tents. Increase money on rehabilitation and mental health not give them safe places to do drugs and discard needles is neighborhoods
V! Thank you so much girl for doing this you guys are amazing. When you said you guys opened up your doors you guys 100% did....i was one of the ones they helped in the past the are amazing they even took funds out of their own pockets to buy food for everyone even just amazing
This town needs to get its priorities straight and start having hard discussions, including these people right here who are out living it. Then make change happen. Stop spending money on things that are not necessary and not particularly needed and prioritize. Nothing should be above people’s lives.
Everyone has and opinion and apparently an answer but it's going to take many combine foundations and resources. Remember this is it global epidemic that mostly only came about as being seen after the epidemic when in reality this has been an epidemic all along. Homelessness has exploded worldwide. Would I find a distasteful is in the lack of support from the current government both provincial and local. For too long has stigma stained any attempts to make any headway in finding some solutions even if they are albiet temporary. These stigmas and barriers get carried over by those that are supposed to be looking for the good of the Commonwealth not just those of wealth, but I have my own opinion on politics. I'm considered at poverty level yet somehow I make just enough money that I'm not considered poverty level, that negates me from being able to access certain things should I need them via the government resources. And for a fun fact: when you live homeless you probably actually spend just as much money if not more than I do on the day-to-day to live. I'm lucky that I've had pillars but those pillars are starting to crumble as well. It's sad when somebody has to commit a crime not to pro fit from the crime but merely to commit it so that they're arrested so they have somewhere to go food shelter water. I'm guessing that prisons will be the next place to be called the poor house
The real lowlifes are the ones that have the nerve to judge and comment things like "less tattoos" get off drugs blah blah blah. Speaking from my own life being homeless is a cycle harder to get out of than you think. I was 12 when my mother kicked me to the curb and left me to fend for myself. When you have no place to live, how do you go to work, being hungry, not showering, not having clean clothes and a good nights sleep. Forget about what the world thinks of you but how you feel. When you no your hairs greasy and everyones looking at you like dirt. Makes you want to crawl in a hole. Asking the government for assistance financially is a joke. The ammount your entitled to for rent is not enough these days for a single room in a house let alone food or a bus pass to get to and from a job. Its a starvation diet. And its exhausting. You can all point the finger and think its just that easy to change your life around. But the reality and the truth is its not easy. People who have no support or dont have the skills are left in this category and its a shame , cause you look at these people as degenerates to society like they are shit on your shoe. Were all doomed with opinions and values like this. Its not ok to be addicted to tattoos but its okay to be addicted to social media
It's becoming a major problem to point people should over though the government. People in Canada can not live outside in winter and jails system is not place for some homeless people.
Well done V standing up to Pete and his manipulative “investigational journalism”. You really held your own! Keep speaking your truth V and neighbours.
V kids perspectives are also valid. So are everyone else's opinions of you and Fishy Pete. Life is not all or nothing or black and white. Read the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that our vets and their families sacrificed their lives for. Truth hurts though. Too bad police, social services, and our health care system are the ones navigating this storm with Pete Fisher filming his COPS epslisodes spreading fear and hate. Big law suit coming for you Fishy Pete. Sole proprietor be warned you will be bankrupt in legal fees alone!
So you essentially chose to be homeless because sleeping across the hall was not an option
The Cobourg camp provides convenient one stop shopping for Fentanyl and stolen property
How about try and pay for yourselves not depending on others.
Noone else but me got my addicted ass up and helping myself.
If you don't want to fix it, it won't get fixed.
I'm only clicking like on this video to support Pete.
Quite the sense of entitlement, wouldn't we all like a piece of property 😅 They look like they are employable, get a job and get off our beach.
Define exactly what help you need and provide the detail of what you can do to support the society you are expecting to receive help from.
@petefisher2426 when are you going to interview this women’s children? They have asked you. We need that side of the story, to be prudent and objectionable on how addictions affect loved ones…especially when they try to provide help and it is denied by the addict.
Same. I'd really like to see an interview if they are interested in getting their side of the story out.
Why should anyone think that the Taxpayer should Pay for any of this, Life is Not Free, unless you are willing to Follow the Rules of Society. This Life choice of some wanting to be Homeless has the Large Majority of Canadians Sickened & Angry. We want are Taxes cut off from Helping the Homeless, when once we did care for the Needy, This New age has Destroyed that Care & Kindness in Canadians. I did provide & Now I will never again.
We only want to sit around and do drugs and get a free ride at the taxpayers expense. You know human rights.
What human rights would that be you troll? If you look up the first human right it is the right to life. That has absolutely nothing to do with the right to live. Since you're going to hack and slash, how's this one: the government bringing drugs sell them on the streets they have the police enforce it, it's all the business and they don't care who dies. The only people that don't get caught are the ones that are actually working for the police. Not conspiracy as United States does it and Colombian cartels cocaine traded to purchase weapons being bought and sold through the hands of the CIA to other cartels and gangs. The Ontario government, current government former government and future government don't care. The only thing they care about is making sure you live long enough to pay your taxes and that's it. How is that for trolling?
Whoa! What are you on about cia, columbians? I have to agree with him there…TweakEasy organizers/leaders said on video…”they just want to get high and not die…”. WANTING. So, as a taxpayer when you hear that….?
So funny I worked with the homless. Most are high all the time.
I raised 2 kids by myself. I worked my BUTT OFF. I am 59 now and I sleep on a couch because I cant afford the RENTS!! IS THIS MY WONDERFUL THANKS FOR ALL I DID IN MY LIFE? WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME DO WE???? I have little sympathy for people who always have a sob story. Im not tellling a sob story Im actuality really worried about myself. What happens if I her sick and can't work anymore!!??
Less drugs less tattoos more rent. Get a job.
Ya thousands of dollars in tattoos sleeping on the beach
@@randyreal5871 She is tweaking so bad here, totally wired and saying its not a drug problem???
@@camarors4314 None of us said that
I understand your concerns, I'm sympathetic to your issues. I don't have problems with the unhoused. But you're absolutely insane if you think taking the prime realestate from a town which heavily relies on tourism is ok. I could think of 10 places off the top of my head that wouldn't negatively impact the businesses and livelihoods of those who rely on the business.
I agree. Kerr Street just off of Division would have been perfect for them.
Bingo
Huh....must be nice to live on the beach all summer ...work on my tan...get some tattys ...smoke up ...avoid work and not pay taxes. These folks have got it made.
Ya and they want the taxpayers to pay for it. She talks about responsibility to each other how about responsibility for yourself. Get a job work save money get a place to rent. There are 2 of them. If two people are working can't they get a bachelor apt between them.
How about abandoning all of your children???? So selfish, the amount of lives affected….and here she is woe is me!
@@WEEIRISH does she have children
Yes but she abandoned them in the middle of the night.
Omg
Thank you Pete Fisher. Others should read posts from her poor children on Cobourg Politics, Facebook…another perspective! Talk about Heart-wrenching. We are supposed to work our butts off 9-5, while they get high on the beach? NO. She said she pays taxes. Uh NO.
Thanks for covering this Pete. The Federal and Ontario governments need to look at the Alberta model. "A recovery-oriented system of care is a coordinated network of personalized, community-based services for people at risk of or experiencing addiction and mental health challenges. It provides access to a full continuum of services and supports, from prevention and intervention to treatment and recovery". Its not something a municipality has the resources to manage.
Is this the couple charging rent to the encampment people?
Forced rehabilitation is the only solution.
Sorry Kim, we are all struggling. No way is my hard working ass going to pay for people who don’t want to help themselves. I am feeding my own kids!! Not like some who abandon theirs. No effing way. Leave them alone? They have a Giant sign saying Now Open! Open to sleep, tweak out, bring dealers to with guns. Land I pay taxes for!
Their entitlement is utterly disgusting. Grotesque. The more they talk the worse it gets.
Selfish attitude
I mean this in the most respectful way!
Do the dealers live with you in your encampment?
or are they up in a nice hotel because they have the money to afford it by selling you the drugs that are holding you in a dangerous position in your life.
It’s not about what it is. It’s about where it is.
She makes a super valid point that more people need to come together and come up with solutions immediately at the municipal and local level.
The people of Cobourg don’t hate the people that use drugs.
The people of Cobourg hate the drugs that are using the people.
More funding, more services and more help are needed Now!
The province apparently downloaded housing to the municipalities. Thar means our property taxes go to pay for this. Why isn't this woman working how did she become homeless. She says being separated from her partner is unexceptable. Well she wants help but on her terms. When you are in this position you need to be adoptable to other ways of doing things. If you are not working and supporting yourself you have to make adjustments to the way you want to live. If you are not willing to do that then her and her boyfriend need to get a job and support themselves. They system is over loaded and people are going to have to take responsibility for themselves. It can't alwsys be one your free living lifestyle abd other people are responsible for you. I'd like to know how they became homeless to begin with. Unfortunately alot of people these days through no fault of their own are becoming in this position snd its really sad. But you have to make adjustments it can't be all your way. My opinion
More money for them! From who?!
I think she needs to be honest with herself. What she did to her children and now asking us taxpayers to take care of her and solve her problems?
@@WEEIRISH what happened to her kids
@@missf4681she abandoned them! Bottom line. Chose drugs over her kids!
Blah Blah..Blah... Yet she. Sits there with approximately $1000.00 in tats..
Cry me a river. And she's not the only one, hundreds of these. Encampment people have more ink that could be used for food or rent
The problem there is more a problem with drug use than anything else. A friend of mines rents a home for her children down near the beach and those people locked in her door with her children watching, terrified.
Coburg ont..no way..
It's such a beautiful beach .but not here.😮
Pack them up get them out..get a job why is she not working ..then she could rent a room etc ..unreal the entitlement of some people
Living in tents on the beach is not the answer. It’s not ok.
Thank you for covering this Pete and bringing these issues to the public light. They need to be discussed and should be, but there's a lot of nuance to it, and a lot of different people with a lot of differing ideas about how to make things better. Sometimes even in trying to do right by everyone things can get misinterpreted. Please though, I invite you to come talk to one of us at Transition House and get the full story if you'd like to talk about us; before trying to quote things or put words in anyone's mouth. We're all on the same side here. All the best.
How about getting a job and buying your own land? Able bodied, looking for hand outs. Enough.
If you are homeless, I really hate to say this but you do not have a choice when it comes to shelters. I do not care how long you've been together, when it comes to the cold seasons, I would sacrifice a little bit of time to have a safe and healthy environment to sleep but during the day you can see each other and maybe to to addiction treatment, or until you use the government resources to get on the Coburg or any city your in to regional housing, you can go to treatment for your mental illness, lack of life skills and budgeting, and she can say that her situation is not an addiction case but I do not believe a single word she says. If you truly wanna get off the streets and get your life on track you will sacrifice certain lifestyle choices to get your life on track. I know why she got booted out from her place if she left her door open to the homeless community then she looked like a flop house meaning water bills go up, hydro, and damage and cleaning. It's not prejudice to not want addicts in your apartment or rental properties. She is talking and thinking a mile a minute, she is on meth I know this because I was just like her. If you want change, it starts with your choices.
Yeah. But about the people who actually don't have an addiction problem and are homeless. And when the shelters are ful and you get turned away 4 or 5 times in a row.
I bet a shelter in a city nearby would take them as a couple cobourg being such a small city doesn't have as many programs.
They were offered a small place on a big peace of land by family and refused 😢
these people need to grow up
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This problem is so bad in Oshawa and sorry to be blunt, but the one's I see are high leaving needles and garbage all over...they don't want to work-they stand at different corners interrupting traffic for money and then to buy drug's...
That's no life, and the mayor is doing nothing to fix it...
The city and the police just seem to pass it back back and forth...it is frustrating
I have a brother in law who was living in an rv in different lots. But he wouldn't follow the rules. He kept stuff all around the camper instead of being low profile. He had druggies at the place. The owner tried to accommodate him but he was running a buisness and the customers complained and the by law officer stepped in. I let him park in my driveway and all he wanted yo do was watch tic toc drink and do nothing. His entitlement was just over the top. So i asked him to leave. Well he parked a couple places abd was stuck with no place to go abd i let him come back and the entitlement was worse. He spent all his money when he got his check at the bar and im liw income senior i was using what little i had to helo him and he was a nightmare so i told him to leave. 2 weeks later he got caught driving without insurance or a license they took his rv and now hes homeless. Its a mess. But the entitlement and the ill do things my way too bad if you dont like it was just too much. You cant help some people.
What bothers me is when I see all the tattoos and how expensive they are . Stop getting Tats . Use that money to show you are ready to move ahead .
Look at her tattoos…..they don’t come cheap!
they be using toenails & ink and shit dawg
Her tats could be 15 years old , from when times were better for her. Not like she's sitting in a new F150 p/u truck , saying shes broke.
Neither do cigarettes, drugs and cell phones
@@user-xu7ql1eq2xthey are old I’m her daughter , she’s been tatted way before all of this
Caution the wind chill factor coming…
I wonder what the price of beachfront property in cobourg is.
Winter will be coming soon
They still live in the park lol
Are you people needing addiction treatment to get well get job and join society and stay away from public park areas, ok 😊
She's tweaking 😂 lay off the dope.
This issue is worldwide while corporations are taking over government
Stigma; transitive verb
1a: to describe or regard (something, such as a characteristic or group of people) in a way that shows strong disapproval
Yes that is what addicts should be: Stigmatized. Drug induced behaviours should not be approved of. Common sense…or else we would have Anarchy. I am speaking from experience. Don’t sugarcoat the ugly.
I once knew a a wonderful man, he struggles as many do…but worked dang hard everyday. As his addictions grew greater he was presented with plenty of opportunities (some even handed to him on a silver platter), but sadly his warm home, wife,kids,pets,family became less valuable. His addictions overcame him and after many interventions he chose this “tent community” . Stop with all the none sense.
You have an opportunity to have shelter but chose not too because your “partner” cannot come. Your partner should have your best interests at hand and insist you take this opportunity. So stop with the B.S.
The hard working people of this community continue to support more than they can or should, only to see no results for their generosity…..yet the addicts and homeless get clean injection sights, handouts of tents, clothes food etc etc etc and only to continue to cry about how hard “these tent people” seem to still have it. 🤬
The single parents, the seniors, the small businesses they have it hard.Continuing to enable this “tent community” will only allow this selfish/entitled mindset to continue.
I feel your frustration. Well said.
Don't forget, the city of Toronto is telling their citizens to pick up the dirty needles that it is their job to. One safe ejection site had a sign in window used needles for free chocolate. Like encouraging k8ds to.pick up needles.
I really hope that it's an extremely cold winter. No money but you have a phone to call bus on demand... tac payers you folks are not paying. Property tax or payroll tax.
Cobourg….Keep voting Liberal….
why did they not take the room in the Port Hope Motel that was offered to the University people when they were evicted?
It was only for 72 hours I believe
I live in Cobourg too, IN MY CAR, im not far off from these folks, I work everyday. Things have really gone downhill the last year, work is slow, prices are up. Im sorry but i just dont have $1800 a month for a reasonable place to live
I'm not against the encampment (everyone's gotta live somewhere), I just don't think the current location is ideal. I know the area quite well and have concerns...
1)Storms can produce waves strong enough to reach the encampment, potentially endangering the encampment-residents and any emergency services required to assist them.
On top of this, during storms large amounts of algae wash up on shore directly adjacent the camp which can generate nauseating(and potentially life-threatening) amounts of Hydrogen Sulfide through decomposition.
2)Lack of access to proper hygienic facilities(toilets, bathing, etc) increases risk of diseases/communicable infections to themselves and the general public due to the encampments location on a public-access beach.
3)Lake-effect winds, combined with tiny droplets of water generated by wave-action, produce an almost constant cooling which increases the risk of hypothermia, even in the summertime.
4)The use of open-pit fires for warmth/food preparation increases the risk of a conflagration in the nearby short-grass. It also exposes individuals in the general area who may have respiratory conditions(severe asthma, COPD, etc) to smoke/noxious fumes which may aggravate their medical condition.
5)Due to the waves crashing on the shoreline/sandbar the natural noise-level in the area is very high. This makes it difficult to hear individuals approaching, increasing the risk to the residents of the encampment.
6)Alcohol/drug-use at the encampment has resulted in an increase in violence(see link at the bottom for gunshots reported at the encampment aug/16) putting not only themselves at risk but the general public as well.
7)Being a "retirement-town"/tourist destination, Cobourg relies on the beach-front to attract tourists to generates revenue which goes into municipal funded social-assistance programs such as low-income housing, rehab clinics, subsidized-rental fees and more.
A reduction in tourist-generated revenue results in an increase in property/land taxes for both businesses and residents. If, over time, the increase in taxation gets too high it will discourage economic growth, decrease property values and result in higher rental fees while decreasing the amount of affordable housing for low to middle-income residents.
In other words, their presence on the beach *will* directly result in other low-income individuals being at increase risk of being homeless themselves.
The biggest issue however is winter:
As it approaches the residents will have to move due to cold weather/lake-shore winds but by that time the encampment may have grown so large there will be nowhere the residents can go without violating public/private-property trespass laws.
I think in the best interests of the residents of the encampment it would be beneficial for them to relocate to a safer area where they have better access to the facilities/services to help them get back on their feet.
Also, regarding The Cobourg Transition House:
Yes, at the time of the eviction it has been confirmed that the Transition House did have 4 units available for the affected residents. However, due to a conflict with some of the rules of the Transition House the affected residents chose to not utilize it at that time.
Please keep in mind I am not condemning people struggling with addictions but I am also not condoning continued self-harm(or harm to others) when treatment options(at no-cost) are available.
Just my two cents.
Link:
(*) Cobourg Police Investigating Shots Fired at Encampment August 16, 2023
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Thank you for bringing this to light its happening every where and it will only get worse.
People living outside in tents are not right. All levels of government need to make housing a priority for all people. Right now, this is not the Canada I looked forward to my children and grandchildren growing up in. Leave these people alone unless we can offer something better. Providing a bed to sleep at night, only to send them out in the morning with all they have is not a way to live. We need to provide a small place that they can go every day and leave their belongings safe. This will help them reenter the workforce for some of them. Medical assistance for others.
Canada is broke we gave the monet away to foreign countries and we are taking in people to go on the system thar don't even come here legally
Leave them alone. She had options but it didn't suit her so she is out in tents. Increase money on rehabilitation and mental health not give them safe places to do drugs and discard needles is neighborhoods
Mike!That is aVERY good idea, A safe place at night, a place to go i daytime
The city should setup portable toilets and garbage bins.
Uh No. So they can wreck and trash them like they did our bus terminal bathrooms!
V! Thank you so much girl for doing this you guys are amazing. When you said you guys opened up your doors you guys 100% did....i was one of the ones they helped in the past the are amazing they even took funds out of their own pockets to buy food for everyone even just amazing
This town needs to get its priorities straight and start having hard discussions, including these people right here who are out living it. Then make change happen. Stop spending money on things that are not necessary and not particularly needed and prioritize. Nothing should be above people’s lives.
Help them get a job? Get them a job? Insist they earn taxpayer money? Or free room and board…?
Everyone has and opinion and apparently an answer but it's going to take many combine foundations and resources. Remember this is it global epidemic that mostly only came about as being seen after the epidemic when in reality this has been an epidemic all along. Homelessness has exploded worldwide. Would I find a distasteful is in the lack of support from the current government both provincial and local. For too long has stigma stained any attempts to make any headway in finding some solutions even if they are albiet temporary. These stigmas and barriers get carried over by those that are supposed to be looking for the good of the Commonwealth not just those of wealth, but I have my own opinion on politics. I'm considered at poverty level yet somehow I make just enough money that I'm not considered poverty level, that negates me from being able to access certain things should I need them via the government resources. And for a fun fact: when you live homeless you probably actually spend just as much money if not more than I do on the day-to-day to live. I'm lucky that I've had pillars but those pillars are starting to crumble as well. It's sad when somebody has to commit a crime not to pro fit from the crime but merely to commit it so that they're arrested so they have somewhere to go food shelter water. I'm guessing that prisons will be the next place to be called the poor house
The real lowlifes are the ones that have the nerve to judge and comment things like "less tattoos" get off drugs blah blah blah. Speaking from my own life being homeless is a cycle harder to get out of than you think. I was 12 when my mother kicked me to the curb and left me to fend for myself. When you have no place to live, how do you go to work, being hungry, not showering, not having clean clothes and a good nights sleep. Forget about what the world thinks of you but how you feel. When you no your hairs greasy and everyones looking at you like dirt. Makes you want to crawl in a hole. Asking the government for assistance financially is a joke. The ammount your entitled to for rent is not enough these days for a single room in a house let alone food or a bus pass to get to and from a job. Its a starvation diet. And its exhausting. You can all point the finger and think its just that easy to change your life around. But the reality and the truth is its not easy. People who have no support or dont have the skills are left in this category and its a shame , cause you look at these people as degenerates to society like they are shit on your shoe. Were all doomed with opinions and values like this. Its not ok to be addicted to tattoos but its okay to be addicted to social media
The answer has past. Truedum want to charge people for over charging for masks and sanitizer but not rent and housing.
Ah....I knew it would be a matter of time before I read a but..but...but Trudeau comment. Get educated little one.
It's becoming a major problem to point people should over though the government. People in Canada can not live outside in winter and jails system is not place for some homeless people.
More discussions, more meetings, more questions that lead to more meetings, bottom line government turned its back
This woman turned her back on her children. And now asking us taxpayers to give her handouts??
Well done V standing up to Pete and his manipulative “investigational journalism”. You really held your own! Keep speaking your truth V and neighbours.
You sure do certainly have a good reputation for speaking the truth Robert. Appreciate your comment. Whoot whoot
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Speaking the truth, from you Robert Horgan! Hilarious! Why don’t you read the letters her children wrote…the REAL truth.
V kids perspectives are also valid. So are everyone else's opinions of you and Fishy Pete. Life is not all or nothing or black and white. Read the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that our vets and their families sacrificed their lives for. Truth hurts though. Too bad police, social services, and our health care system are the ones navigating this storm with Pete Fisher filming his COPS epslisodes spreading fear and hate. Big law suit coming for you Fishy Pete. Sole proprietor be warned you will be bankrupt in legal fees alone!
@@petefisher2426I'm judged by the company I keep. I hang with authentic people, not the scum that drives around in a clown car. Woot, woot!
Instead of spending Hundreds and hundreds of money on tattoos. Pay rent somewhere.
Totally agree!
Crack involved ?