ANGELS, DEMONS & GOD--When Were Angels Created & When Was Satan Cast Out of Heaven?
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- Before even the foundations of the earth were established, God created His angels...
Each of the angels we read about in God's Word has power that exceeds anything we can humanly understand as possible by the laws of the physical world that we know.
As far as we know the angelic creatures are indestructible, they can’t be killed or destroyed. They travel the universe effortlessly, with no spaceships. They seemingly never rest, or sleep, or even need to eat.
Lucifer-The Guardian
The Cherubim
The Archangels
The Flames or Seraphim
Angels
The Angel of Light;
The Destroyer;
The Horrible Monsters of the Destroyer;
The Doomed Angels;
The Nation Princes;
The Principalities, Powers, Rulers of the Darkness, Spiritual Hosts of Wickedness;
The Demons.
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I was blind and now I see, i have considered myself a Christian my whole life but I was blind until 2 weeks ago. I'm 32. I felt God's love magnified through me for the first time, that was after I admitted my sins and asked for forgiveness with all my heart and the willingness to change. It is the most precious thing I have ever felt in my life, God's love. I found the purpose in life is to love. To love you must first love God then love others and yourself last. Selfishness isn't love no matter how its disguised. God first, remember he knows everything even when you aren't sorry.
Oh, Mark! My birth is so much like yours, but I was 62. My family fell apart with the illness of my parents, and I had nowhere to turn but to the Bible which I’d never seriously, seekingly read before. I had no preconceived idea that it would save me, but, still, I read it TO understand it. At one point I kept reading and re-reading a verse as I really wanted to understand “it.” At this moment, I was stricken-as by electricity-through my right shoulder, into my heart. From that point, nothing has been the same. Now I search His Word to know HIM. He is my purpose and my Beloved. When I read your post, I related. Thank you so much for sharing. I’m now six years old in Yahvah and His Son! (But really wrinkly on the outside! 🧓🏻
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Praise the Lord! I look forward to meeting you & serving with you in our Lord Yeshua’s kingdom brother. May his peace & understanding rest on you.
I’m screen shoting this amen and god bless
Amen
This Pastor is one of the most clear good teacher on you tube. I have seen many in 40 years as a born again Christian. Basic foundation of our faith..
I am saddened by those who show such hate in their comments and claim to be Christian. love one another. even if you don't agree. pray for those who are blind. remember YOU we're blind! think about new citizens of Heaven searching for Truth and seeing such hate! instead of calling people names and insulting. scripture is a very powerful Truth! God bless you.
Nicely said Heather Rice.
Religion is for people who can't think for themselves
Poweful Heather!!
@@calebproductions5970 Or who think to understand.:-)
@WingsOf a Phoenix I've had my issues. From the old testament. Not the new.
Your words about how Jesus chose to give great messages to the simple, the weak and the poor, were such a blessing to me. Thank You, for reminding me of that.
Pastor John speaks to biblical themes, few other teachers will touch. He is a bold servant of the Lord.
"But remember......On the night Jesus was born. The Angels were heard singing....."Glory to God in the Highest. And on earth, Peace and Goodwill towards man...!"
Because Jesus was him in body form, to show his. Children how to serve one another.
Nice... yes that adds evidence in favor on angels continuing to sing, after the fall. I was thinking the same thing when he said that. Seemed suppositional.
Luke 2:13... And suddenly there was with the angle a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying ; Glory to God in the highest , And on earth peace , goodwill toward men.) (They were praising God and saying) not singing. Just because they were praising God doesn't mean they were singing. More likely they were lifting their voices with shouting. Where does it mention singing ?. Just saying.
@@arturrofi5933 to die for us to take the death penatly... That we would otherwise bear before God
@Sterling Crowne If Jesus is speaking truth than this is truth: noone is good but God~ Jesus.
The lamb that can take away the Sin of the world-Jesus- has to be perfect, spotless, blameless. Good.
So if Jesus is not God... He cant be good. But he is good. Perfectly good. He IS.
Jesus would have blasphemed God so many Times if he was not God.
When the disciples asked HIM to Show Them the Father... Jesus Said: (paraphrased) I am with you for so long now and you still dont know Me?
Blasphemy If he Wasnt God in Human Form.
Immanuel... One of Jesus' Names... is GOD with us
Jesus made himself the great YHWH... I AM by saying: before Abraham was I AM. The jews recognized this and wanted to kill him therefore.
I could go on and on. But know that in revelation the lamb is sitting in the Middle of the throne of God. Who sits on the throne but God? (Rev. 7:17)
In hebrews God the father speaks and calls Jesus God. There he commands all Angels to praise Jesus.
Remember God being a Jealous God WHO does certainly not share His Glory.
Well when he makes Jesus be praised and all knees bow before Jesus naming him Lord... He doesnt Share his Glory. Because Jesus is GOD.
Read John 1:1-3. He was before all creation and created everything. ITS God. Hallelujah. Is the holy Spirit God? Yes. But he Works for the son and the father?
Jesus working to the glory of the father in human Form is a Problem tho? No. Its pure humility and therefore Glory unimaginable. God humbling himself for Wicked dirty creation. Jesus IS awesome.
Read John 14:13+14 for further Proof of scripture.
Jesus is GOD. We even are commanded explicitly to son as the father. But God doesnt Share his Glory. We dont Honor two gods but the true one God when we praise Jesus or the Father in Jesus name because He IS
Love this video! There are too many negative comments on here. We can't give an answer as to the time at which angels were created and Lucifer was cast out of heaven; the Bible doesn't say and it's not for us to know right now. Dr. John Barnett gave the best answer and if he answered the girl directly, without talking about everything else, the video would have been over in seconds.
This is very good, I thought I was correct when I read Genesis like that, very simplictic, and yet one of the most powerful meanings and purposes can be found in the bible. This is indeed a great discovery. Thank you for explaining it so thoroughly.
You are such an anointed teacher of the word. The conviction in your teaching shows how deep goes your fellowship with the Lord. May many be blessed by it and may those who have ears hear!
Everything in Heaven Sings, Even the Flowers, they All Give Praise to the Creator of All Things-God...
Unbiblical
I don’t believe that God stopped singing. God can’t be outdone and he definitely wouldn’t let Satan have the last song
Cole Tague maybe for now he might., then ......
Satan thrown in hell by Micheal. And once and for all never allowed back out. Amen. A thousand years go by fast.
Listening to the radio someon thousand years ..
Of the millions of gods we've invented, how many require a Satan?
If you listen he didn't say God stopped singing he said God stopped the Angels from singing. Just a simple correction love you brother 🙏✝️ peace
I am a Christian and am still waiting for this joy. I can not think of anything that has made less difference in my life. I wait for any sign of God's love and care. I see only torment.
Must agree with you.
But why was there disobedience in heaven?
@Sterling Crowne My experience as a Christian is the most typical. My wife gave it 3 years. I continue on. I made a confension of faith in 1999. I was baptized a few years after that. I have prayed. I have studied the Bible. I have gone to church continusly much of the years. Are you saying I need to do more?
There was not time when there was not God because God exists outside time and space. Just sayin
A simpler way of saying this, is that on the 4th day, God created the sun, stars and moon for times and seasons. So on earth time exist, not in heaven.
interesting...
Brian Beddell Haha, thinking about that makes one's head explode. Aquinas couldn't even figure it out.
Time is a physical quantity and thus a creation of God.
The head explosion comes when one considers that not only has God existed outside of time and is Eternal, but also exists in Past, Present and Future earth-relative time.
Am no longer a slave to FEAR, am a child of GOD!!
You're a child of your parents!
Got any evidence of your God?
Critical Thinker A spark can only exists in the presence of opposing energies. One positive and one negative. Physical reality is only possible at the crossroads where they meet. The god you are asking evidence of doesn’t exist. A higher explanation with a much simpler answer is possible. Energy needs an opposite and an intermediary conduit/area to change. So for a wholly negative charge to grow or shrink or change in any way it would need to incite a physical reaction by contact with a wholly positive energy. Here, in the physical manifestations of the balance/reaction of two opposing energies, we harbour souls. Souls that sway with each decision and experience. Once the reaction can not sustain any longer the result is the gates between them close ie physical reality. The story the catholic Christian bible confirms for me is that the positive side becomes or remains very small and the negative side is vast. God is simply positive energy and godliness is pursuit of positive effect through physical actions. You are a duality of good and evil and you question your purpose and existence. That is evidence of god. The soul inside of you that can be measured by your electromagnetism
Wtf is am
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@@SingleMost how do we know good from bad?
The philosophy of men mingled with scripture. For he who lacks wisdom let him ask of God .
The angels sang at God making the foundation of the earth, Job 38:4-7
No, the sons of God sang, Hebrew 1:5 tells you the sons of God could not be angels, because God never called an angel son.
Flat earth not planet genesis 1 explains the firmament and dome of our creator and heavenly father yahuah YAH???
Everette it’s not written in English! So the words sons of God we’re not used.
@@terryfonz4603 we are well aware that Bible is not written in English. It's in God's language which doesn't change; he's put in place measures to ensure that everything lines up precept upon precept. Just because you're under the assumption that a prevailing notion is correct doesn't mean it is.
The Lord questions Job of where he was when He laid the foundations of the world. When the morning stars sang together and when all the sons of God shouted for joy.
Nowhere does it say the sons of God shouted for joy as the saw God lay the foundations... No one other than Jesus Christ, through whom everything was made, was a part of creation, as then the Devil would also have a blueprint on life as he's also an angel and hadn't fallen then. sons of God has never been used to refer to Angel. That's just strange dogma of people fascinated with nephilim
Jaime the interpretation of sons of God “never being used to refer to Angels” as you say is one of the most ignorant statements made in this whole comment section! Just because you believe something to be true does
No negate the thousands of years of history which proves otherwise!
The view that the sons of God were angels is very ancient. In the first century A.D., Flavius Josephus in his Antiquities of the Jews (1:3:1) held the position that angels co-habited with women. Later authors such as Philo of Alexandria (early first century A.D.) also held this position as did many rabbinical authorities. The Genesis Apocryphon, among the Dead Sea Scrolls, states this angelic interpretation.
Did you get that they literally referred to the sons of God as angels in the Dead Sea scrolls which is our oldest manuscript of the New Testament.
You need to wise up before you try to teach others that an ancient viewpoint is strange dogma. You literally said it’s “never been used” you should go humbly repent for being so dogmatic yourself!
Jesus Christ 4 Life 🙏
June 2020: What a beautiful and emotional lesson. Thank you. ( Holland-Europe)
I’m saddened because so many people commenting don’t have understanding of scripture.
Just thought I'd add this in, food for though ya know? I believe the reason some of the angels were singing (aside from being commanded by God) was because they were rejoicing that the Earth would be made. I believe some Angels, including Satan, thought they would have the Earth for themselves as a gift from God. But when they found out God was giving the Earth not to the Angels but to this knew creation called "Man", Satan became incredibly jealous of both God & Man, because of their relationship. I believe perhaps before the Earth & Man, Satan was prideful of himself and thought of himself as the closest creation to God, perhaps a part of the God head. So that's why I believe Satan is the God of this world as Jesus said; He always wanted this world for himself from the beginning, and he also wanted to be the most important creation, instead of Man who god planned to be his bride for eternity.
This is the best way to make sense of how it all went down in my opinion. It was really the creation of Man, and the destiny God had in store for us that drove Satan to jealousy and it's a huge reason for many of the angels to rebel and follow him. Imagine this. God made the angels his children because they are called "the sons of God". So the angels see themselves as his children and thus deserving of some inheritance or special treatment. God finally makes this wonderful, beautiful place called the Earth in all it's majesty and the angels rejoice & sing!
But then, God makes man and gives him dominion over all the Earth. Boy did that drive Satan to jealousy; I bet he went around and spread rumors and gossip, 1/3 of the angels to agree with him that the Earth should be theirs, and that God betrayed them. So what does Satan do? Believing himself to be the most powerful being, possibly in his mind God himself he confronts God in the throne room with 1/3 angels who demand they be given the Earth, not Man. God sees their rebellion/insubordination and strikes them down, and they get what they want. They fall from heaven and are cast down to 2nd heaven, 1st heaven, and the Earth. I believe the furthest that any fallen angel can go is right outside the kingdom of God in the 3rd heaven, a spiritual border in a way. We only see a few times in Job that Satan is allowed to return to the throne room; Who knows if they still have access to go up and down, or if it was just Satan who was still given access, or maybe God only let him in those few times.
Think of a snake, it's supposed to be sneaky, hard to spot, and silent; They're dangerous and lurk in unseen places. That's why he is portrayed as a snake in the garden because he found a way inside! Remember he was the most craftiest creature in all of creation. Outside of God, Satan is probably the most powerful being in existence; That's why we need the restrainer, or the Holy Spirit to protect us from him and his demons (which are just fallen angels).
So fast forwad to him tempting eve and God finding both Adam & Eve. This is the moment I believe that sets up of all the events that are destined to happen, the war in heaven, the casting of Satan into the lake of fire. I think it was this moment that God really gave Satan & his angels the judgement of eternal damnation; For corrupting a perfect creation. This is also the moment God sets up the need for a messiah and the eventual birth, death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. It's also the moment Satan decides to wage a war against God and his son Jesus Christ. Satan knows his time is short and that God is eternal, so his mission is to try and take down as many souls as he can with him; I also think in his pride he has a fighting chance. Remember, the war in heaven has not happened yet, that happens right before the 1000 year millennium and the coming of the Antichrist. Satan will try to fight Gods angels many times, once in the war in heaven, and twice on Earth through the Antichrist and the final war at the end of 1000 year reign of Christ; That will be his last battle before he himself is cast down into the Lake of Fire.
I hope you reading this helps you understand the position we're in, and why Jesus made such a big deal of demonic possession and spiritual warfare. Jesus knew the extent of the enemies plan; He came here to save us from captivity of our own sin and insubordination to God. That's why the real enemy is Satan, and evil principalities in the heavenly realms - Not other human beings.
This is how I believe the order of events to have transpired as it makes to most sense bionically.
I hope this could be true. Because one day I came to a bad conclusion that God might have created Adam and humans just to replace satan when he left God (because he was like son to Him) or prove a point to satan that He (God) can love lower creatures than angels, when satan was too prideful and wanted to become like God. I wonder if God would still create humans if satan hadn’t started to rebel.
I agree thank you for this Godnis good
I believe angels still sing in Heaven
Amen . I loved how you ended this lesson with a wonderful thought.
Lucifer was created to be perfect as he would be the closest to the throne of God. He was allow many privileges. But with great power comes great responsibility. He was perfect in all his ways until evil manifested by him rose up and touch his heart. He grew proud and prideful. He saw much praise to God repeatedly and felt that he too should be worship as he was one of a kind and exalted above the other angels. With beauty and power and authority given to him by God still was not enough for the Son of the morning - named because he was so bright. Instead rebellion took his thought and foolishness took over his great wisdom. In the end his was banished and became Satan, hating his own origin, - heaven and his people. Humility is what should have taken into your mind and loving God your creator. Being loyal to him and following righteousness.
God saw into your heart long before your move and every step you take. He holds you back just enough so you do not destroy mankind choices in life. But alas - you are part of a bigger plan to redeem mankind separating the wheat from the chafe.
Humans can have eternal life again and you destined to be thrown into the lake of fire that burns forever. Pride, always comes before a fall, human and angel alike.
Praise God!
But he didn't have a body that cannot sin which is probably the most perfect body\thing one could have! Did he? If he didn't, then he wasn't perfect!
But how does he become evil if God created him
@@messi12knight free will. It's a beautiful gift
@@nickc5085 how is it free will if God knows what’s gonna happen anyways
@@messi12knight I believe that like most people, you have big problems understanding this question. The ominiscence of God allows him to see all the choices of possibility that you are going to make using your free will. Seeing all the possibilities that you will do do not dedicate yourself to the actions that you will commit and this in no way. And another thing, God is sovereign and will never betray his creative thought. The responsibility for our actions lies with us.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT... If the Angels were created before the heavens and the earth... Where did they abide?
Scripture mentions the "hosts" of heaven, the angels...the place of their abiding... thoughts?
And all the host of the heavens and the earth were finished
Genesis 2:1
WOW.... that was easy.
Thank.....you.....
I had a breakthrough at the very end of this video (the part regarding happiness and joy)
Pretty good time line . The only thing that I disagree is the singing stopping. God doesn’t only have angels who can lead the heavy choir. God gets praise and worship all day long through everything . Plus the creatures in the throne room sing” Holy ? Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty ..” it says this in Revelations. Heaven is full of music still and no where in scripture does it say God stopped worship.
greetings,
I believe that when satan and his followers were cast out of heaven
they did not leave heaven empty handed but they were created with vast knowledge
and manifest that knowledge in this physical realm to war against us
Satan and Lucifer are different satan is a lucifers right hand demon
xxx_K1ngSavage1_xxx 21 where did you get that from?
xxx_K1ngSavage1_xxx 21 they are the same his name was changed upon his fall
@@Danielle33384 joe
@@Haramglizzy no satan is a leader of hell
All the people say he didnt answer the question. He did! He said before God laid the foundations of the earth. He can't give a year or date bc it isn't given in the bible. He gave a biblical answer, thats all he can do. He may have given opinion on some things but this he didnt
The bible is not simple. There are many lessons of life inside of it. Lessons inside of lessons.
There is a pretty good inference as to when Satan was cast out. We know that he has been called the "Prince and power of the air"..so in John chapter 12:27-31 Christ say's.. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31 Now is the judgment of this world: NOW shall THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD BE CAST OUT. (emphasis mine) it would appear that if the "prince of this world" is Satan then he was cast out just prior to the Crucifixion. We know he wasn't cast out in Genesis even after the garden event because he was seen standing among the sons of men according to the book of Job. At that time we know he hadn't been cast out yet because he told the Lord he was going to and fro from the Earth. He is also known as the accuser of the brethren.. Satan I believe has already been cast out and I also believe he knows he has but a short time. After the cross the countdown to his penalty began.
Pray for our the conversion of sinners please.
Praying for us all delivered in Jesus
Thanks guys 😊
What would you like me to do with these prayers you are sending my way?
They don't seem to be working 🤔
Could you try sending money instead, at least that could be useful 😉
Holy Spirit. You who solve all problems. You light all roads so that I can attain my goals. You give me the devine gift to forgive and forget all evil against me and that in all instances of my life You are with me. I want in this short prayer to thank You for all things and to confirm once again that I never want to be separated from You. Even in spite of all material illusions I wish to be with You in eternal glory. Thank You for Your mercy towards me and mine ..... Say for 3 consecutive days and publish .... Never known to fail ... 🙏
I've heard angels singing with my own ears. It was so overpowering I fell down in the fetal position crying because I couldn't comprehend how beautiful it was. I will never forget it.
There is a youtube video with a recording of angels singing.
I've heard angels sing too!
It was on my birthday. We all got so messed up and shared a hooker, them angels sure know how to party!
Did you now? When exactly did the angels perform for you? Did they take requests or sing anything recognizable?
I doubt it very much
@@mrshine.2834 so sad....
Sir, you seem sincere, but there are so many inconsistencies with this doctrine. Many teachers know its wrong and some just don't know (yet). I pray that those who daily seek Truth. find Him more and more. God Bless
Jesus is the truth. I just stick with Jesus. The rest shouldn't be so analysis. He said faith and love with your heart and all commandments will fall in place. This debative regilion is just a snare to keep us in wonder and confusion...Jesus
DTBM OnlineVideoTraining, Who is this Wonderful Man speaking in this video? It was a pleasure listening to the Holy Spirit Speak through him. I say God Bless you Brother in Christ! Wonderfully Spoken of Lucifer, Satan! All of it, True to the Core! Amen!
Philip ... this is Pastor John Barnett of Discover The Book Ministries. I found him about 5 years ago, but he has been teaching for over 30 years. He and his wife travel all over the world teaching the Bible in different countries. When he was a teen, his mentor told him he should read the Bible all the way through once for each year you have lived, so that he would be well equipped to teach others...so he set out to do just that. God Bless You Philip!
When you love it'll show up in the heart.
Your a great teacher god bless you
The man has made several errors in explaining the Word. He is prone to giving opinions instead of facts. Beware.
Jesus is the great Teacher
GOD was.. is.. and will always be..im..glad for that..GODbless Bsav LuvinCHRIST LivnluvinCHRIST your sis inCHRIST
The bible tells very clearly when He created the Angels..
"And his tail drew a third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth.....
Revelation 12:4
By this we know "stars" represent Angels. Back up to Genesis 1:16
"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the STARS also. (It was the fourth day)
Maybe. Good point I like it.
You spent seven minutes talking without answering the question
Only God Himself can answer things directly. What he said is all true God created angels first before He created the world.
@imu70 whoa whoa..... the question was when i.e as a time line or time frame. Time was never brought up. If I was you I'd read the question more closely before you condescend someone in an idiotic manner again, and secondly rebellion against God? Is this man God? I have a problem with his answer not the bible. Drop that holier than tho act it's embarrassing.
imu70 you need some serious humbling in your heart. You do know the church is the body of Christ? Would you speak to Jesus like that? I pray you repent and apologise to this man. You have an arrogant heart as he heart spills out the mouth. In this case you typed it. We don’t have long on this earth. The earth that has a foundation, thats immovable, and cannot be moved. There is not such thing as a universe. Nor planets and as such, the earth is not a planet. The irony here is you need to read your bible and go by what God says, not mans theories of pseudoscience.
imu70 The Bible says in 72 places the earth is flat motionless and in movable. It's NOT a planet. Next time you go to the beach don't worry about boats disappearing in the distance, take a look side to side and explain to me why you're looking at 40 miles of perfectly flat horizon?! No curve whatsoever!
Daniel Zechariah
Yes yes my good brother in HaMasHiacH YaHUsHua. We live on a Flat Earth under a dome. No space or plantes. The so-called planets are in fact calles "Wandering Stars". They are Angels that disobaide Our Heavenly ABBA YaHUaH Our EloHim.
He (YaH) imprisoned them until the great day of Judgement in the dark abyss away from His presence.
Halal U YaHUaH EloHim
All will soon WAKE UP to the Truth by Our EloHim YaHUaH, and it will be such a rude AWAKENING!!!
NASA/NAZI's have alot to answer for. Did you know that the word NASA in Hebrew means Deciever or to Deviece. There's one truth for you to share.
Keel your eyes and heart on Heaven above.
All Glory to YaHUaH Our EloHim.
And Our MessiYAH
YaHUsHua HaMasHiacH
For the end draws near. Take care and may YaH Bless you and protect you and yours.
From Ireland 🍀🍀🍀 I send you blessings, truth, peace and love.
SHALOM & TUDAH 😇😇😇
Humble yourself. No mere man can know when divine events take place. God is sovereign over all.
The name change should explain everything. 🤯🤯🤯
With so many comments I don't know if anyone else brought this up. I would like scripture on where Adam loved Eve so much that he disobeyed God, this is speculation. It may or may not be true. That Adam was not deceived is scriptural. John should say this is his belief, but is not found in scripture.
I have a speculation; seeing as how the angels were all so excited about the creation, maybe they believed it was all for just them, and then God made man and gave him dominion over the earth. This may have caused Lucifer to rebel and slander God, and persuade 1/3 of the angels to join in the rebellion.
This is speculation, not scripture, this would be eisegesis, which is what John is doing with Adam & Eve.
@Sterling Crowne
I had never heard that before. Funny, because Jesus said you better love him most, even far above your wife and family.
I have heard that Solomon is a type of the anti-Christ. And I have read a very good examination of Samson being a type of Christ. Which may strike some as strange because many are surprised that he is included in the heroes of the faith. But after reading it you would be quite convinced that it is so.
You've got your understanding kind of messed up. You'll want to re read the scriptures and study the meaning through someone who doesn't make it up as they go along.
Have you heard Myles Munroe? The only way any of us can be aware if someone is teaching us false scripture is if we take charge and study the bible ourselves.
@@jazzy4you486
I would not recommend Myles Munroe to anyone who wants to follow Jesus. If I wanted a motivational teacher I would turn to the Apostle Paul. Hyper faith is not taught in scripture and it's roots come straight out of kuṇḍalinī & Hinduism. I could link you to a series that describes where the root of this heresy comes from and it is not the bible.
You quote Job so much but , did not Satan stand before God when accusing Job of having a hedge around him? A fallen angel would not have been able to stand before God!
They were created after the beginning and somewhere before the end
Well, that's a bit vague
He never saids when God created the angels. We do not know when God created the angels because
2Peter 3:8. but we do know that God created Angels before he created the physical universe.
Job 38:4-7.
Just like humans were created when the earth was created so were Angels created when heaven was created.
The bible tells very clearly when He created the Angels..
"And his tail drew a third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth.....
Revelation 12:4
By this we know "stars" represent Angels. Back up to Genesis 1:16
"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the STARS also. (It was the fourth day)
Where does it say the Angels were here before the universe? He asks where were you when I laid the foundations of the EARTH
Modern & Modest : Genesis chapter 1 is the spiritual creation, the heavens, paradise and the garden of Eden, chapter 2 is the physical creation, the physical earth and the physical universe, everything we can see when we look up at the night sky and beyond, however vast it might be, the physical cannot exist without the spiritual.
@ Genesis chapter 1 is different from chapter 2, look at the event are also different, when first man and woman are created at the same time and also have many fruit bearing tress to feed for themselves and the Elohim commend them to go and multiply, while chapter 2 Adam created first and after Elohim sees he's alone Elohim out of Adam deep sleep he took the rib and make Eve they didn't command to go and multiply Because when Elohim remove them from Eden they will plant for there food to eat they do farming because there's no food outside the garden unlike in chapter 1 all over the world are plenty of food.
Giving honor to ones own mind, leaving the narrow gate and faith and trust. Denying to believe, denying to let the holy ghost take control...searching for a way to find out how the Almighty works.
I think John presents a nice synopsis of the premise. Naturally, being human, it's possible that he is wrong about some aspect of it, but it's not something he says without scripture. Not sure why you'd give a thumbs down on this.
Listen to him again, Jim. He makes things up as he goes along, and didn't ans. the question.
When the morning stars sang together
Please help me
@@dorbalcarabali3219 what do you need help with ? Prayer ?
The joy of the Lord, fix your eyes upon Jesus who for the joy set before Him endured. we sing praise obey / worship and satan is defeated, since victory is a done deal. Yet we do it together even when we're on our own we ain't alone God's on the throne,. stay on the altar, and you will be altered and salter psalter
Sorry I don't agree. satan fell before the garden of Eden or before he tempted Eve because God called him satan when hen was in the garden. God didn't call him Lucifer at that time....
The garden of Eden was made long before the perfect angel was cast out of heaven.. Ezekiel 28:13-19
@@truth4lifeentrtainment ....Stop creating discord among men!
Satan fell before mankind was created. Humans were created after his fall so this was even more a reason for him to try to ruin us. Envy, jealousy and hatred due to that fact that he is no longer a Holy creature as we are
@@chrisdeforce1 satan fell bc he didnt want to worship man therefore man was here
@@famousbowen7512 this does not mean he was still good Angel
+ Robert Vann He spoke those words in the flesh, In Isaiah God spoke through the prophet Isaiah 41:4 I, the Lord, am the first, and with the last I will also be. In Revelation 22:13 Christ said; I am the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, you a mere man are going to try and comprehend the greatness of God himself, God, Christ & the Holy Spirit are one and the same !
They are not equal. God is greater than jesus and the holy spirit. Also, blasphemy can be forgiven against jesus but not against the holy ghost
+dave jones The only reason Christ wasn't equal when he said that cause he took a human form and made him lesser as to being flesh, the Holy Ghost is the mouthpiece of God, deny it and deny everything the Holy Spirit has gave through the prophets. His Word ! In Isaiah God through the Holy Spirit said I'm am the first and the last, In Revelation, Christ said He was Alpha and Omega, one and the same !
dukejohnson: "he said them words cause". And you wonder why people don't take you seriously? At least educated ones, anyway.
+Jaeger Meister I have no problem seeing Christ is God, you'll be the first one asking for forgiveness when you reach the end, I don't care what you think personally !
Jaeger Meister ... Being Christians, we should be respectful when we talk to each other, we all are loved by God. Yes, Jesu is equal to God...Because Jesus is God... The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one....we don’t have three Gods....
The center message of Rev 12 (Rv 12:12) is about Satan being cast out of Heaven. Until then Satan still has access to heaven (coming and going). That is the moment when Satan knows his days are limited. He will be filled with wrath to destroy God's plan, his people and his city Jerusalem...
THANK YOU. It is amazing how most Christians don't understand the Truth of your comment
Adam was supposed to be a good steward and protect Eve.
thus woman had no responsibility since her very creation ...
Protect her from what? Talking snakes? Apples?
Do you remember when Jesus told his disciples that some will fall away from me do to events in their lives. He also stated that only those who CONTINUE in faith shall be saved. So it's just not the initial acceptance that makes you a Christian, it's the CONTINUATION of that initial faith that makes you a Christian
Seems like a lot of jeopardy, given many might still have questions or uncertainties. Especially about dad/Jehovah...
@@chrissonofpear1384 Jesus IS the man, It's HIS house and it's HIS church. We don't have a say to whom gets in and whom doesn't.
I love this stuff helps me understand the bible better
I am so surprised he ended with a lie. The Bible clearly states that Adam disobeyed God and was guilty of sin, and that is why all mankind (his descendants) sins.
The Bible says Eve was deceived by Satan through the serpent. Nowhere does the bible say that Adam sinned so that he could stay with his wife.
The Bible does clearly hold Adam accountable for willful disobedience against God's direct personal command to Adam to not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
How does one reach this man in order to stop him from deceiving others regarding the Word? He makes it up as he goes along.
What was the answer of Adam for his disobedience to God?
It is the woman that 😲"YOU (GOD) PUT beside me and I ate of it!!!
Accusing God of malfeasance!!!
Eve is not better said : It was the serpent 😲who deceived🤥 me! Accusation of malfeasance!!!
🤔😤😞😰
We've got all this knowledge of The End of Day's. So let's not waste this knowledge. Everyone, put our differences aside and let's turn this prediction around.
STOP HATE AND CHOOSE LIFE !!!
Predictions?
Men make predictions.
God makes the things that shall pass.
Doubtful of God's plan?
@@antonyka-pra-ra
Not doubtful, just encouraging people to think about the big picture .
It's all of our responsibility to spread His words and His ideals, to the best of our abilities...
Amen
Highest most creative being......and that wasn’t enough 🥺
So he avoided the question by stalling, then derailed the topic.
He laid out a feast of good information, as usual. I give him an A+. Sorry you walked away empty.
If that was a feast of good information I think we all walked away hungry?
He was clearly making it up as he went along.
GLORY TO GOD.... In the name of Jesus Christ!
And anal to jesus!
With over 3 million gods invented by men, you must be pretty busy.
@@mrshine.2834 ....that is blasphemy!
You have just blasphemed the name of the God who gave you life!
The Bible says that "NO blasphemer shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven"... 1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9 nkjv
unless you repent you will perish... Jesus Christ... Luke chapter 13 nkjv
@@drewthompson7457 there is only one true and living God in Jesus Christ whom he has sent!
All other gods are false and blind and Damned demonic worthless empty vein and defeated in Jesus name!
@@mrshine.2834 unless you are born again you cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven... Jesus Christ... John chapter 3 nkjv
Luke 15:10 - Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth
I don’t really know if he answered the question. I think he dodged the questions lol
He answered it, next time be more careful.... He said angels were made before the earth was created and Satan fell in some point of time after everything was created
Why did God create an Angel that will later corrupt humanity?? Free will doesn’t take away the fact that God knew the outcome beforehand of creating that Angel(Luzbel)
Ezequiel Rodriguez here here - excellent logic
This is a great mistery. Why God let evil to exist? And if he knows what will happen how free will works then? Free will of every living creature must also be predictable by God.
What if no evil existed. Devil created all evil
@@tylerp3374 who needs a devil character when you have a god that allows the things hat happen on earth to occur ?
Tyler Puckett:
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Just.
Eternal.
Sovereign.
Unique.
Savior.
Loves us all and that's who he is. Amen.
Hello there, can you please tell me which heaven did God created in the beginning when all angels and God were in heaven. Next, the mission of the messiah Jesus Christ was to save sinners and preach the gospel of the kingdom of God, then why did Jesus waste 17 yrs and preached only for 3 yrs. Where was Jesus actually for 17 yrs. Next, Jesus said " I am coming quickly " is waiting 2000 yrs quickly. Inspite of all these strange things this person is only defending the lies and deceiving innocent people. Seeking truth is not a sin. So brothers and sisters seek the truth, do the research
@@anthonyjohn9000 the scriptures indicate that there are three heavens: (1) the first heaven, which is the atmosphere that surrounds the earth (Hosea 2:18; Daniel 7:13); (2) the second heaven, which is the stars (Genesis 1: 14-18); and (3) The third heaven, also called paradise (2 Corinthians 12: 3-4; Luke 23:43; Revelation 2: 7) and whose location is not revealed, which is the abode of God and the place of all believers who have departed from this world (2 Corinthians 5: 8; Philippians 1:23)
you never really said the time you just started talking 4 the whole video without awnsering the questions
See 8:35
@@ocotillodavid7343 me and my dumb as clicking 8:35 😑
He didn't give any real answers. Just skipping over the subject matter. Total nonsense!
The questions were "when were the angels created and when was satan kicked out of Heaven" the answers (clearly given) are "before God started laying the foundations of the Earth, and after the creation was finished shortly before the fall of Man.
you my dear wern't listening, he said the angles sang while God was making the foundations of the earth ergo they were there before earth was created, go read the bible and use your pretty little brains, good grief, does it really even matter, why do people have to prove everything? what the heck is faith, and for that matter knowing. Don't you ever talk to the holy spirit?, ask him and you will get your answer. Remember, the still quiet voice. It really exisits, however one will not hear it if there is too much noise happening upstairs in ones head, and i direct that to everyone, including me.
@@RamonaRayTodosSantosBCS It sounds like you are practicing witchcraft Ramona.
It’s cuz no one knows
Genisus 1:26-28 And God said, Let "US" make man in our image...
He basically he doesn't know.
If the Bible doesn't tell us something, what can we do? Start making guesses? Make up something and teach it as truth? I really don't care about the whens. What difference would it make if God said it was on a Thursday at 10:30 am Pacific time on some month and some year? God gives us useful information, not useless information.
Bro, you are ASSUMING angels no longer sing, you should say "in my opinion". Also, Heaven was created before the angels, because even though they are spirit beings they have locality, only God is omni-present.
Angels were created before earth was..Read it in Job and in salms the sing to God creation
ALL of this is assumption based on a book of mainly fiction, so before he even started talking anything about the Bible, he should have given a disclaimer.
@Stacy Caruso Quite a bit actually. :)
@@flashoftruth .. Give me an incite/intro of what you know brO . .. :)
@@splash5150izy You would have to be a bit more specific "bro"...
I truely believe that were not here to find fault in anything we learn we are here to find our Heavenly Father in all things and to understand the thing he is in and why we choose to look at it as if it is him. Please keep our Heavenly Fathers name sacred and not soo easily to say upon your lips it only affects peoples feelings because of their strong connection to their Heavenly Father and the bond that they share with them. Please think of your HF as a sacred thing and not soo worldly drawn into a figure of human weakness. Love your HF openly and pour your heart out in love to him in feelings and happiness.
you've been reading the silmarilion of tolkien to much.
By the way, satan has still access to heaven, he is "the accuser of our brethren", accusing us just like Job. Revelation 12 is not jet (posted on september 23th :-)
i respectively disagree brother. please watch this...
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Exactly ... spot on.
Our Lord can’t have any sin in heaven.
Short video.
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povoq83 he is still bound in heaven.
A simple I don’t know
would of been as good 😁
I just love to hear your messages on the bible. It follows common sense! Which I believe common sense is the base of wisdom and wisdom grows from that base. I also tell people that the Greeks and Hebrews did not know the terminology needed for todays human. God did. I tell my friends be careful using translations from Greek and Hebrew and OTHER SOURCES THAT SATAN CAN INTERJECT DOUBT OR HIS TWIST ON GOD'S WORD.. THANK YOU BROTHER!!!
This guy said the Angels aren’t singing anymore cus Lucifer got cast out lol
Yeah, no where in scripture does it says that angels stopped singing. God is never limited with praise and in Revelation in the throne room it says that the living creatures are singing day and night ,” Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty ….” I don’t think he meant to add to scripture saying that God stopped singing .
Imo God made Satan too powerful. Like seriously... Why?
Because our Father God doesn't want the easily tempted in heaven see temptation was the 1st test and was failed witch made sin that's when love conquered sin the 1st time with Adam he ate the apple because he loved his woman that much god must have honored it he kept them alive what Lucifer dose is he brings you temptation now remember your defense is only as good as your faith and prayer you can render him powerless with the Armor of God, and the love and name of jesus christ.
our father is allways in the presence of our prayers. suit up
David Kless ll the easily tempted? "The easily tempted" were already in heaven in terms of those that Lucifer tempted while in heaven! So what's the big issue with that?
@@davidklessii2614 bru don't forget to capitalize God and Jesus Christ,luv you in Christ
@@mainamaina2578 wdymbt
And how did you get that conclusion
*sir Issac*
does satan recognize whos actually God?
Randomly watching cause it wasn't a long video... But now it has given me a "hmmm" feeling... You gotta like and a new subscriber mate... I really loved the joy vs happiness analogy...
PS. I have an open mind... I'm not a Christian or a church goer but a believer in a high power and such vidz (like this one and similar) give perspective and depth into something I'm genuinely interested in...
Cheers too much for the video. Choice... Chur chur from New Zealand 😊
Good man -- I love an honest comment. I suggest you read Colossians -- chapter one, the first 17 verses.
you are all over the place...answer the question..
He did not give the date and time because there is none given in Scripture-- but he made it clear (from Scripture) that is was BEFORE the universe was created because they were witnessing it firsthand and singing. I don't understand anyone bellyaching over his clear, lucid response!
My question is. . if God created everything, why did he make the Natural World so violent? If he is so loving, why will so many beautiful little animals suffer immensely when they are torn apart and eaten alive. He could have made everything to eat plants.
Jack Prescott because the god of the bible is a sadistic, evil, narcissistic monster and I for one do not wish to be part of his sycophantic fan club
They did at one time and will again
I believe they all did eat plants at one time
This was a result of the fall. There was no death in the Garden of Eden, even for the animals.
Because god is lucifer and vice versa just different vibrations.The alpha and the omega the yin and the yang one in the same
I am an angel Malach of Yah. We were created way before mankind. Enoch was one of us..
he
dont know
we dont know.all he knows hes writing on a great board
+Jerry Langlois That maybe true, but other religions than Christianity died in vain, Christ rose from the dead and had power to raise the dead. Theirs more proof that Christ was real and everything that Christianity said happened, was real !
When the angels announced the birth of Jesus to the shepherds, they then started singing. Yet he said angels stopped singing after Lucifer’s fall. I’m confused.
The angels in heavens are still singing but outside of heaven they fell from Grace .
Jesus saves.
Hi:)
why were evil angels cast down to earth?
Des King NO SATAN IS NOT GOOD!
Professionals Lives Style in Disrup·ture because they chose to follow satan! Satan is the prince of this world, but he will not win in the end!
Sterling Crowne I don’t understand how you came to those conclusions. Yes, the angels that chose to follow satan are the same ones that went to earth and mated with humans. But they were cast out of heaven when they decided to follow him. I don’t see how Adam gave Satan any permission or Godship of any kind...only God allows things to happen in heaven or earth. Adam was no different than any other human.
@Des King you're saying that the omnipresent, all knowing God, misunderstood the actions of Satan?
People put a lot of faith into a book of myths written by some desert dwelling nomadic shepards.
Why is this?
We've invented over 3 million gods, none have any proof.
This is horrible theology.1st: Is 14 and Ezek 28 do NOT refer to Satan. They refer to Adam. 2nd: Man did not need to choose between his wife and God. Numbers 28 gives Man the right to nullify a wife/daughter vow AND also gives him the right of redemption. As a matter of fact, the Man sinned first before Eve. Gen 3:6 says and her husband "with her" ate also. The man was with her when it happened. He was not deceived by the Serpent Therefore, if you apply James 4:17, "So whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin", the man saw the serpent deceiving the woman BEFORE she ate (sinned), yet he failed to act The man sinned first!
That not what the word of God says. Read 1 Tim 2:14- "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression" KJV. Adam was not deceived..
rich ressel you cant apply james 14;17 adam doesnt know whats good or bad before he ate the tree of knowledge..
Good/bad aka Positive and negative exists in us all. We should focus on being less judge mental of all others and focus on accepting ALL parts while striving to act on the positive for any soul who is in need of help and compassion. Everyone blaming Lucifer or negative beings for all the dark in the world serve to only alienate yourself from yourself as you to house darkness. Having it allows you to recognize it in another and carry the perspective that will work to bring together and not disassociate based on fear. To become fully realized, which is the goal of this human experience, we have to embrace all aspects of our true self and act to unite through knowledge and understanding; not casting away.
Your questions are beyond man's knowledge. Ask God.!
William Orr
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings. Prov:25:2
🤭🤔 the evil one and his angels fell out from the 3rd heaven to the 2nd heaven,( according to Paul God abides in the 3rd heaven) (How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning Isa:14:12) because sin was found in him he fell to the 2nd heaven “that’s the “aliens” 👽, Satan get mad and said “For thou hast said in thine heart, 👿I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation. Isa14:13 (I think is temple)
the evil one and his angels are not all in hell yet besides the ones who abandoned their form to mate with women check in book of Jude ,book of Job tells us Satan goes up to heaven to accuse him, the book of revelation tells us he get cast out completely
So in Rev 12 where Satan is cast down to the earth, obviously in reference to the time of the end, how does that apply in reference to your explanation on the video. Also if Satan was already cast down to the earth at Gen 3, how is it that in the book of Job, Satan was in the throne room with the sons of god, obviously not cast down to the earth?
John Bottone Satan was not cast down to the earth?A very big mistakes Ask Bro.Eli Soriano.They will reveal you all.
Ruben Jr. Pagaduan did you notice that what I wrote or questions not comments. I am asking this gentleman who made the video to explain to me how that fits into his view. I did not say that I did not believe what he was teaching, only that I wanted clarification. Why don’t you leave me a link to the video you want me to watch and I will check it out? I appreciate it. BlessingsTo you
John Bottone He was actually cast out at earth first and then under earth
The serpent in Gen 3 wasn't Satan. If you look at what God does to the serpent as a punishment it's clear that it can't be Satan - plus he obviously hasn't been kicked out of Heaven by the time that Job was set in.
Luke 10:18, "And He said to them, “I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning. "
God is hear and God is sea and God is everything you do not no.
Planet, lol. You still think we’re on a ball spinning at a thousand miles an hour?
I lose interest in anything once planet is mentioned ! We live under the firmament psalm 19.1
We live in a light bulb on a filament? Makes just as much sense, yes?
Or maybe we live in a pineapple under the sea?
Rinzler: easy to see you failed elementary school science. Half the speed of a clock hour hand is too fast for you?
When did the initial bullying of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer begin? When did Santa Claus appoint him as lead reindeer?
It's called pseudo literature....
The buullying started when rudolph came into his own around the tender age of 14 thats when his smeller started glowin my feller. JM
Not sure about the singing part, God is glorify and worship all the time and yes a lot of singing too.
Jesus is the light and my saviour
Never answered the questions just saying!
on the 4rth day of Creation (?)
This guy is uneducated on the topic.
agree, totally agree.
He knows a lot more than I do but often makes uncorroborated claims. He may have corroboration but he doesn't provide it. Therefore I can't tell the difference between his opinions and proper understanding of scripture. I will look elsewhere for scriptural teaching.
We are encouaged to sing praises to and about God. How would the angels in heaven be different. I need a whack more scripture to convince me otherwise
What I am about to say is not written in the bible ,but has been revealed to me by the holy spirit , I believe that Lucifer was already showing signs of being in opposition to God before God created man knowing the beginning from the end God had to expose evil for what destructive power it has and Lucifer is described in the bible as the adversary ,he wanted to be like God , he says I will ascend to the stars of heaven I will be like the most high , although he was created perfect until iniquity or lawlessness was found in him .I think all the angelic hosts would not have known the destructive power of sin without witnessing it first hand , that is why a third of the angels sided or fell with Lucifer ,but of course now they can see the outcome of sin by what has happened to mankind and what is going to happen to mankind , as God says the wages of sin is death ,so wages is what we earn ,so when you reject God and Gods way ,it leads to death ,as God said to Adam in the day that you choose that way ,in other words ,decide to take to yourself the knowledge of good and evil ,in that day you shall surely die . Now God didn't mean that Adam would die instantly ,but he did eventually die ,but not only him but the end result of sin down through the ages would result in mankind annihilating himself with the weapons he would create , only by living with God ,and allowing Christ to live in us can we have a sustained life ,which is eternal life , because in him is life and without him there is no life , so at the last trump when the dead in Christ are resurrected ,as the bible says this mortal must put on immortality and this corruptible must put on incorruption ,only those that are Christ will that happen too ,then death will be swallowed up in victory .
Oh John Barnett. I liked the last tidbit of information you gave about JOY... And I like your teaching; but, I have a bone to pick.
The word planet. Look at it. It's the word plane, with a "t," at the end of it. We know that a plane is flat. And we know what the ✝ means. But PLANE✝.
Are you starting to see what I'm getting at? No globe, no sphere, no ball going around the Sun. No. Heliocentric? Not!
Geocentric? Yes. A flat circular earth covered with a good old fashioned firmament.
Now we're talking. There are SOO MANY scripture verses that support this fact.
And oh, Universe? What is, and where is, the Universe? Not complicated. Simple. Revealed to a simpleton like me. Uni= one. Verse= a line in a song, or poem; a continual Word. I know, versus means truth in Latin. So, who is the Truth?
Hello? The Uni/One Truth is Jesus Christ; and He is the Word. So, where is the Universe? EVERYWHERE! He's Omnipresent.
It's not complicated. The imagination of mans thoughts are evil continually. According to Corinthians we're supposed to cast down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ.
Sorry Doc. I'm 100% sold out for Christ, and flat earth. Do some serious homework. I'm tired of the lie. We've been programmed from childhood. It's a lie. We don't live on a globe, and the Sun isn't 93 million miles away. It's time to get red-pilled and wake up.
That was very funny
As Christian I know its not true but I gave you a like for the presentation
But your right about church needs to be red pilled .God bless
I come to that conclusion too, you are not alone in your thinking. I guess we’ll know everything when we get together on the other side. Cheers brother
So the moon, the sun (and other planets we've been observing for centuries before CGI) is round but somehow the earth is a flat disc with a center mass...
If that was the case, the Earth's magnetic core which creates gravity along with its mass, would pull everything towards the middle and not straight down like we experience in everyday life.
And you're putting your own spin (see what I did there) on the modern English language with your planeT interpretation.
Yes, we live in a universe, a vast, immeasurable amount of space the houses trillions of stars (thermonuclear fusion) and planets of all sizes.
tripleflip7. Trip Flip, no problem believe what you want. No one knows the depth of the earth, Russia drilled down the furthest, about 9 miles.
The magnet could easily stretch beneath the entire base.
There is water above the firmament. That's why stars twinkle. There is no such thing as outer space. Lower earth orbit is as far as man has explored. The moon? Yeah it's round. But its not a terra. You can't land on it. And its a light source. Says God.
The moon was landed on over 45 years ago (supposedly). But we've never been back or near it. Van Allen Belts= Firmament.
There is NO CURVATURE on the earth. It's flat. The military fires missiles from ships up to 1000 miles away, never ever making an adjustment for CURVATURE. Explain flipper.
There is SO much More.
I trust God. I stay in His Word. He is Science. He is Knowledge. Don't pervert His Word.
In the Psalms His Word says, "The beams of His Tabernacle are layed in the waters. He's in the 3rd Heaven. The Firmament is the 2nd Heaven. And our skies are the first Heaven.
Keep searching. If you know the Truth you too will be set free.
Red-pilled OUT!
Aussie girl Rach. I truly enjoy John Barnett, and I don't want to sound harsh. It's just that I have been researching the Geocentric earth concept for over 2 years, and I feel lied to by the establishment. I trust God. I know Him, and He gives me discernment.
I believe in Jesus Christ, and all that God's Holy Word teaches. And I believe there is no CURVATURE to the earth. It's flat. Not a ball. Its circular, but it's not a ball.
You're not down under Aussie Girl, you're actually near the outer edges.
Q: _When were angels created and when was Satan cast out of Heaven?_
A: _Never and never_
Bam!!!!!
@@adventuresincrt1376 - wouldn't know....i'm clean shaven, but thanks for asking.
@@adventuresincrt1376 - don't wear a fedora either. sorry your little attempt and making me a hipster is failing, but it'll be ok. I'm sure you're an internet warrior and will be fine.
Not only they can’t be destroyed or killed among other things, they do not need oxygen I’ve learned in teachings.
Neither one of tbose scriptures are about Satan. His name was never Lucifer.
Isaiah 14:1-12 is about the King of Babylon.
Ezekiel 28:1-14 is about The king of Tyre.
Dude dont know scripture
Bart Miller umm i hate to break it to you bart but satan posessed the rulers of tyre and persia he was in fact talking to satan babylon too.
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Thats not scripture..
Thats your commentary, prove me wrong and share the verse that supports your comment.
Read it, clearly tells you
Its talking about a man...
Neither of those scriptures even
Mention Satan anywhere
@@KERIFIS7 lets simplify things
Share the verse where the name Satan is mentioned in Ezekiel 28.
Also share one verse from any book where Satan is mentioned in the Garden of Eden. Please dont post your commentary or your interpretation, let scripture speak.
Right on, Bart.
So which being had all those precious gems or stones.. and was the most beautiful and called the morning star?? etc etc and pride has been found in you etc.... also yes it says The Serpent tempted eve, thats right... but then who was the serpent??