I really liked how the cymbal sounded at first; I didn't think I was going to enjoy what you made of the K. I have a couple of heavier rides that aren't typical jazz weights, but I like the 'funk' from them that you can hear from how the internal tones mix. To me that 'funk' is what makes a cymbal a jazz cymbal regardless of the weight or diameter. It's a testament to your talent that you can preserve that characteristic in the cymbals you modify, and add it to those who lack it.
This is a great testiment to your work. You took a peice of history that while cool was not functional. The original man in Turky who made this cymbal would probably want you to make this change if it meant that it would not collect dust but get used to make music. This is awesome!
Great job. Sounds even better in context of playing with the drum set. Cymbals are meant to be played, not sit in a museum. I have two old-ish 20 inch K’s from the 80’s that I no longer play because they just don’t sound good to me anymore. I will be sending them your way to work your magic. Cheers.
I absolutely love the idea of modifying vintage cymbals - yes for sure there is the potential for 'loss', but what can be gained is so much more important: the energy, and MUSIC, which was the original intention of this instrument is all that should really matter. An appreciation for not only the raw materials but also the history and lifespan of a cymbal is a great thing in the right hands.
No shade to you at all, I know you just gotta do what the customer’s asking for, but that thing was so extremely cool as-is 😭 Still sounds great after the mod though. I think I’m most partial to the first pass, would have made a great rock ride
By my taste it was sound much better at the first time you did the “‘first removed weight “ 2550gr Perfect for jazz . But again is the customer wish how he wants . I am pretty sure you are agree with me;) Excellent work!!!
Fantastic mod! I actually love the sound of it before. It's the best-sounding ping ride I've ever heard, apart from Jon Christensen's Old K. But after the mod it has a much smoother sound. Any thinner and it would be too washy.
Tim, that’s an amazing result! I love that type of content! I have an old 18” K with a slight heavy side to it and a small hairline crack that has been drilled with two tiny holes to stop the spread. Can I send it to you? I don’t expect anything in return, but I am curious if you can make it sing again? Perhaps it could see a light of day again as an all-around suspended cymbal? Let me know. I’m in Ohio.
Wow make a copy of that bell except to aim for a less harsh sharp bell sound. Could be a really great ride nodel for your customers in the future. Preserving the heritage of old K lathing Etc.
I have one of these and it’s 18”. I’m guessing it’s half an old piatti. Sounds awful since it’s so heavy! It looks great leaning against my wall though.
Probably not something you want to do with a vintage rarity like this, but could you possibly anneal the cymbal to make it slightly more ductile and workable?
I wish that could work, but there's many reasons why it wouldn't. There's usually a fair amount of micro-cracks in vintage bronze and the process of annealing can open those up.
Jazz isnt my thing so all these ride cymbals are going in the opposite direction to the sound I like, I'd want you to dry that out from where it ended up, But it not mine. I'd love to see you make a mini china as a complete departure from the jazz rides. I have a 8"splash, 9" trash splash and a 10" and 12" on my kit, I'd love to see you hit that end of the scale, maybe fun to see you make one from a 16" crash thats cracked and need cutting down to loose the crack.
What an amazing sounding ride cymbal before lathing! Why didn't the client just sell the cymbal, because it's so valuable/desirable, for a cymbal that they did want and go choose, having change out as well no doubt!!?? 😯
I've just bought a K 'heavy' ride eighties era, sounds nothing like the later iterations of that branding, it's very live, loads of wash. So I'm trying to take some of that away, I've already used salt mixed with vinegar, which did preage the cymbal in looks and did take away some of the wash, it wasn't permanent enough though, it basically just wipes right off. So i tried patination fluid which did nothing but darken the cymbals appearance. Hey ho, I've seen some people burying their cymbals in earth to get some wear and age in the material to try to achieve similar results that I'm after. @@ReverieDrumCo
I've ordered a k Constantinople that I want to add some rivets and lighten the sound to use as part of a small kit Bob kit,what C would be the cost to have tou rework thi cybbakl which tends to be a bit heavy?
Stupid question but: What happens to all that bronze residue that comes off of the cymbal during lathing? Is it thrown away? Could it be collected, melted, and formed into a new blank?
one of the most dramatically improved cymbal modification you made. Well done
Excellent result. Not too pleasant originally, sounds soooooo good now. Go Tim!
I really liked how the cymbal sounded at first; I didn't think I was going to enjoy what you made of the K. I have a couple of heavier rides that aren't typical jazz weights, but I like the 'funk' from them that you can hear from how the internal tones mix. To me that 'funk' is what makes a cymbal a jazz cymbal regardless of the weight or diameter. It's a testament to your talent that you can preserve that characteristic in the cymbals you modify, and add it to those who lack it.
Thanks!
This is a great testiment to your work. You took a peice of history that while cool was not functional. The original man in Turky who made this cymbal would probably want you to make this change if it meant that it would not collect dust but get used to make music. This is awesome!
Thanks!
I love the finished version. Sounds like a perfect jazz ride to me. Great work!!
That was amazing. loved the end result. And you have a great jazz groove mate. 👍👍👍
Great job. Sounds even better in context of playing with the drum set. Cymbals are meant to be played, not sit in a museum. I have two old-ish 20 inch K’s from the 80’s that I no longer play because they just don’t sound good to me anymore. I will be sending them your way to work your magic. Cheers.
Great, great choice :))
Great! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions: tim@reveriedrums.com
I absolutely love the idea of modifying vintage cymbals - yes for sure there is the potential for 'loss', but what can be gained is so much more important: the energy, and MUSIC, which was the original intention of this instrument is all that should really matter. An appreciation for not only the raw materials but also the history and lifespan of a cymbal is a great thing in the right hands.
No shade to you at all, I know you just gotta do what the customer’s asking for, but that thing was so extremely cool as-is 😭
Still sounds great after the mod though. I think I’m most partial to the first pass, would have made a great rock ride
Loved it! Specially leaving the bell untouched. My cymbal smith do that to all my rides,
By my taste it was sound much better at the first time you did the “‘first removed weight “ 2550gr
Perfect for jazz .
But again is the customer wish how he wants .
I am pretty sure you are agree with me;)
Excellent work!!!
Fantastic mod! I actually love the sound of it before. It's the best-sounding ping ride I've ever heard, apart from Jon Christensen's Old K. But after the mod it has a much smoother sound. Any thinner and it would be too washy.
Gorgeous. Pity you couldn’t split horizontally in two and get another cymbal rather than seeing all that bronze turn to star dust.
@@bernardrooney105 yeah seriously!
Great stuff! You're awesome on Drum History Podcast too!
Thanks for listening! That was a fun one.
Great video Tim!!
Amazing difference wow!
Nice cymbal + great job!
It had a really cool sound before the modification, especially for an old k.
Much better sound.
Big improvement. nice work!
Mesmerizing 😅😅😅.
Could it have been some sort of symphonic cymbal? I know those are/were usually pretty heavy.
@@timtsistinas yeah that’s definitely possible!
I'm sure it was used as an early rockabilly/ rock and roll ride.
Tim, that’s an amazing result! I love that type of content! I have an old 18” K with a slight heavy side to it and a small hairline crack that has been drilled with two tiny holes to stop the spread. Can I send it to you? I don’t expect anything in return, but I am curious if you can make it sing again? Perhaps it could see a light of day again as an all-around suspended cymbal? Let me know. I’m in Ohio.
Hey! Shoot me an email and we can chat about it: tim@reveriedrums.com
Wow make a copy of that bell except to aim for a less harsh sharp bell sound. Could be a really great ride nodel for your customers in the future. Preserving the heritage of old K lathing Etc.
I have one of these and it’s 18”. I’m guessing it’s half an old piatti. Sounds awful since it’s so heavy! It looks great leaning against my wall though.
I could help it lose some weight!
Probably not something you want to do with a vintage rarity like this, but could you possibly anneal the cymbal to make it slightly more ductile and workable?
I just had the same thought!
I wish that could work, but there's many reasons why it wouldn't. There's usually a fair amount of micro-cracks in vintage bronze and the process of annealing can open those up.
Jazz isnt my thing so all these ride cymbals are going in the opposite direction to the sound I like, I'd want you to dry that out from where it ended up, But it not mine. I'd love to see you make a mini china as a complete departure from the jazz rides. I have a 8"splash, 9" trash splash and a 10" and 12" on my kit, I'd love to see you hit that end of the scale, maybe fun to see you make one from a 16" crash thats cracked and need cutting down to loose the crack.
What an amazing sounding ride cymbal before lathing! Why didn't the client just sell the cymbal, because it's so valuable/desirable, for a cymbal that they did want and go choose, having change out as well no doubt!!?? 😯
They were interested to see what I could do with it, I think.
@@ReverieDrumCo fair enough, their choice. Great work anyway.
I've just bought a K 'heavy' ride eighties era, sounds nothing like the later iterations of that branding, it's very live, loads of wash.
So I'm trying to take some of that away, I've already used salt mixed with vinegar, which did preage the cymbal in looks and did take away some of the wash, it wasn't permanent enough though, it basically just wipes right off.
So i tried patination fluid which did nothing but darken the cymbals appearance.
Hey ho, I've seen some people burying their cymbals in earth to get some wear and age in the material to try to achieve similar results that I'm after. @@ReverieDrumCo
definately more crashable now
I've ordered a k Constantinople that I want to add some rivets and lighten the sound to use as part of a small kit Bob kit,what C would be the cost to have tou rework thi cybbakl which tends to be a bit heavy?
That would be my baseline mod cost. I've got all the info on my mods on the website: reveriedrums.com/shop/p/cymbal-modification
Stupid question but: What happens to all that bronze residue that comes off of the cymbal during lathing? Is it thrown away? Could it be collected, melted, and formed into a new blank?
I recycle all the scrap. I wish I had a full foundry, cause I would certainly melt it down!
This is like buying a 69 charger, to put a hellcat in it.
A drastic improvement in function and performance.
Hey Tim. I sent the wrong email for my order. I’ve sent a couple of messages with the correct one. Sorry for the confusion
@@Thelifeeverlasting hey, what’s your name? I’ll check my emails so it doesn’t get lost in the shuffle!
wow. 1 kilo off. I wish I could loose that weight so fast :)
Ive got an earth ride for you to customize :)
Bring it on!
Holy smokes. This is incredible.
I mean... Sounds terrible and I recommend the customer sell it to me immediately.