Oh No! China Stole Data From OpenAI!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- OpenAI have said that DeepSeek has stolen data from them to train their R1 model.
Apparently the Chinese AI startup trained their model using ChatGPT to get the data for their model which is against OpenAI's Terms & Conditions.
I share my view on how sad it is for OpenAI that somebody came and stole their data to train their AI model on it.
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At least DeepSeek took the information that we weren't compensated for and gave us a free service. OpenAI trying to make us pay for the model they built off of the work of the masses
always the same init - always off the back of labour
Yes for me this is the main point I mean the whole point of the Internet was always free information I know a lot of people never got this. The backdoor deals which followed the first suing is what really put me off . Another point is that Google didn't proved correct answers since years this had to do with them changing the search request to aim for products and also SEO manipulation from sites which had only bad content (or just paywall) . Yes most of them are gone now. Even without AGI AI will move things forwards for humanity e.g search for a new plastic which is harder then steel developed with AI (Not everything needs to be a language model)
Well said 😂
Valid point.
EXACTLY
"You can't steal data to train your models! That's OUR job!" 😂
Oh yeah!
😅😅😅 Thieves complaining about being robbed. Does that make DeepSeek a Robinhood since they give it back to masses for free?
@scroopynooperz- ...But you can steal data to make money. What kind of morality?
lol
Exactly
They used the entire internet without consent to train GPT.
I call that Karma.
👏🏻👏🏻
Bullshit! They used the entire publicly available internet, for which consent has already been provided.
@@DigitalGus75 and you believe that ? lol do you know that lots of people sued openai for using their data ? and open ai been saying that it's for "the good cause" lol
@@mooniiir Google is the precedent
@@DigitalGus75 Not to profit from it.
It’s like stealing something out of the British museum
Underrated comment
G.O.A.T. level analogy
This comment must be pinned
Very true
I must object, the British Museum stole nothing. Their patrons simply ‘borrowed’ artefacts without asking permission and ‘lent them’ to the BM with no intention of ever returning them. Quite frankly, nations should be grateful that we look after the historical items in such nice wooden display cases for everyone, especially the people of London, to enjoy. I hope that clarifies the issue.
I am very happy to see the open-source community is standing with DeepSeek. These big companies, like Microsoft and OpenAI, are using open-source to kill open-source by not giving any credits. Support open source and save open source.
open source is a ridiculous concept in a capitalist market.
@@mister_mysterium_tremendum BUNNNN capitalism
Open Source belongs to all human being, not the big companies
me too😀
openai is not open，it should call closeai
OpenAI steals data from the world, eats it and laughs, deepseek steal what OpenAI shits and give it back to the world. OpenAI cries.
Its the American way. it really is. Most big business in America.. have been stolen. now knowing USA. They will try get The world court to be on there side . America didnt comply with the world court a few years ago.. wonder how that will work.
Actually it's openai intentionally muddying the waters. Deepseek architecture is different from what we've seen before and is the actual breakthrough here. Making it sound like deepseek just learned from chatgpt outputs discredits their massive contribution to humankind. They are still Robinhood, but not by stealing from the rich
Chinese saying"you set up fire, but don't let us light up a candle"
“只许州官放火，不许百姓点灯”
Like that ,
只许州官放火，不许百姓点灯
“只许州官放火，不许百姓点灯”
The officials are allowed to set fires, but the people are not allowed to light lamps.😂
the hypocrisy is real
😭🇨🇳
The same old official narrative, always accuse them of copy.
So much so!
@@stayfree870 national security threat
At least British Shouldn't talk about Stealing. Because:
-- Britishers looted 64 trillion Dollar worth of Resources from India and build their Country.
-- Even Diamond in Queen's Crown(Called "Kohinoor") also looted from India.
-- Also British Museum is Completely filled with Theft & Looted Artifacts from India,You can also call British Museum as "Looted Indian Museum".
The most important thing is, the Deepseek model look nothing like a distilled OpenAI model.
The distillation is supposed to generate a model that could do SOME of the tasks with less resource and shorter time. But still, everything that it could do, the original model could also do.
Now, the Deepseek model could demonstrate its thinking process, telling user how they come up with the answer. OpenAI never done that in their model, the answers are like generated from black box. If OpenAI really believe Deepseek stole their model, why not show us the comparison of the models' thinking process.
They are desperately denying and slandering DeepSeek in order to maintain their $10 million annual salaries and stock options of incalculable value. --Answered by deekseek.
Thats the point. The thinking process which is given precisely and which make the user understand the process of the outcome is TOTALLY MISSING FORM open AI
Open ai has a reasoning model too... It's just you need to pay up for it. Deepseek gives it as open source for all to use.
Probably DeepThink distilled a model from GPT and then added a bunch of stuff on top of the distilled model.
@@luisoncpp you cant distill such huge model over network, it's black box and all requests are visible on openAI side. those billions of requests using millions of accounts distributed over the world will cost a lot more than few millions $
Its all "FREe mArKet BRo" until they lose a fuck tonne of money.
It's only a free market when *they* are the ones making money. When it's someone else it's theft.
oh yes. capitalism is only good if THEY make money. anything else must be outlawed
Is free market until you make better phones, better cars, and better AI, in that case tariffs and bans are due. 🙃
Absolutely
It's free market only if you have monopoly
The irony, seeing as they stole all the information on the internet without any compensation
:D
Communist China be like: "OUR stolen data"
Public data.
@@isfkthat’s actually debatable, but even then, public doesn’t mean free to use.
let me just say open source vs commercial private model. the end.
So Deepseek is basically Robin Hood.
Generative AI version of Robin Hood with 6 fingers and all... But that's fine because you can run the full model at home for around $2000 hardware costs.
Robinhood yes, but not by stealing, because these articles are lying to you to diminish to contribution deepseek has made and make it seem it could not have been without chatgpt, when in fact deepseek made significant technological leaps that's different from how the big firms train AI.
😂😂😂 That's a good one
Didn't know that robinhood would do censorship
@@nmslesecnmbese917 why don't you go ask chatGPT about the G E N O C I D E Israel has been committing the past 15 months with US' weapons? maybe that's where Deepseek got it from.
Let's ask ChatGPT
Me: What is a sore loser?
ChatGPT: A sore loser is someone who reacts poorly or with bad sportsmanship after losing a game, contest, or competition. Instead of accepting defeat gracefully, they may blame others, make excuses, or display anger and resentment.
For example:
- Complaining that the rules were unfair.
- Saying the winners cheated without proof.
- Sulking or being rude to opponents after the loss.
Ever dealt with someone like that?
Me: Yeah OpenAI...
Sanctions! 😂😂😂
+10 social credit
@noahkreb6827 20 mins of oxygen!
@@noahkreb6827 And there is no social credit thing in China, that is a common lie made by USA.
open your eyes, don't live in your dream!@@noahkreb6827
So Open A.I. lost their jobs to A.I.
How poetic.
OpenAI hasn't been open for a while.
It's called "drinking your own poison".
Doh!
how do you think a singularity happens? the penultimate step is beating another AI. and the prior step..and the prior step...it is definitely poetry
Clearly you don’t know anything about Chinese markets and information stealing/copying
Anything opensource is the right thing. After Linux , Deepseek is the latest most beautiful thing to humanity.
Even the name of OpenAI is an oxymoron.
Working with it all the time. Hasn't produced a single thought yet.
Open , as in open up your wallets?
OpenAI.❌ CloseAI ✓ 😅
Americans calling themselves freedom fighters 😂😂😂
@tonyatgoogle6076 They feel like they are the kings of this world😅😅
They also conveniently skipped the fact that DeepSeek is free of charge.
Meaning, no commercial product to scream about, contrast to the billions they earned commercially.
and they open sourced it, which also help the AI development
unlike "open" ai, which close source their O1
@@789know the purpose of making it open source is to crash the market. still, this is funny.
Not for OpenAI BUT Chinese move is both soft power (HR, market manipulation -bye NVidia and Microsoft and OpenAI) and intelligence: their application will scrape the hell out of your personal data just like Google did through Android. But with not only commercial goals.
Anyway, anyone who needs an AI to write its email doesn't deserve the air and resource they are wasting.
If I had to do shady work using Deepseek I could do it through local install, so deepseek still wins@@user-or6mz4gy6i
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Happy Year of the Snake.
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Good on you! Keep going and tell everyone about China. 🥰💓🙏
It's a perfect scenario. The big guys steal everyone's info and then want to charge us to use it. Along comes Robbin Good (Deep Seek) and takes it all back, then gives it back to us for free. It's just divine.
so true!
I believe they charge us not for training and scraping but for generating answers. Try to use a huge open mode like Google's Gemini on your local machine.
Yes
Provenance.
That's all speculation and accusations anyway, but Deepseek has actual technology breakthroughs, it's in their paper that they released for free. That's the important part. Focusing on what data they trained on is just an attempt to muddy the waters
OpenAI have used authors' material without paying them a cent. Communism for OpenAI, but capitalism for everyone else.
Also steal people data as well so who care yay deepseek
I have to agree with the sentiment, but add a bit of clarification - there is a distinction between personal and private property that precludes this from being actual communism for OpAI.
@@abody499 the current ai is mass of stolen data from both side .. thats why alot of author / artist / creator or whatever againts AI.
@@abody499 ,
Don't use words you've not known how it works in theory and reality .
That is how WEF works. Glad people are waking up to this.
At least DeepSeek made it open source and gave it to all of us
It sounds like DeepSeek is similar as Robin Hood who rob from the rich to the poor.
I saw your comment after expressing similar view!
be taking what has been stolen from mass and return it back to origin owner for free. that should be the internet merit standard.
Easy, Robinhood stock trading is stole lots of money from the poor to save the rich😢
It's a very accurate comparison.
No, it is more like a Robin Hood that steal from another thief who make money out of what he/she stole, but the Robin Hood is giving it out for free.
It's sheer audacity. They KNOW it's hypocritical. Shameless.
The unmitigated audacity! It's comical almost!
I love it … China is the Robin Hood of the AI world 👏👏👏
10000% AGREED
Respect on China for doing something nobody thought of and taking a massive shortcut.
Screw ChatGPT for stealing the internet and complaining about it. Oh and you know, that power bill.
Stealing the internet! 👍 and the energy
look, it is really cool in a way what is the effect of this, but you should probably know that the purpose of making it opensource is to completely crash the market. they have also just released Janus pro as a double tap.
dont get me wrong, I am falling off my chair laughing but I dont respect China for it.
Karma 😂
"How dare your plagiarism machine plagiarize my plagiarism machine!" - Sam Altman, probably
Peculiar times we live in
I think that describes well.
Nobility stole from the poor. a certain folklore hero stole from the nobility and gave to the poor. 😂
Well said 😂🎉
It's a Robin Hood moment
That is what you get when you start to ask $200 per month
Legitimately the least fucks I could give. They hoovered and stole from the entire Internet and now they want to pull the ladder up after themselves.
They will never do. People will take the data from them bit by bit, put top sets together and leave them to rot. Data can't be centralized. It is a lost game. Any investor who was duped by them and put their many in OpenAI is a fool.
Tesla is turning in his grave
@@vatrweaver5169hope he’s laughing.
But Elon is a scam artist
These non technical folk have no idea what they are thinking. I been doing web development since late 90’s. All those search engines did the same thing. Scrape pages and then store into some paging system for searching websites. Why is public AI any different from search engine business? They both help solve a problem for all Internet users; one to find matching websites, the other to find answer within websites. We gone from broad search to exact answers. Make sense now the evolution of Internet searching ?
Seeing Sam Altman have a hissy-fit brings me great joy.
Me too! This news made my week!
Hoooooward!!!
He got Suchir killed
@@justified.by.the.lord.almighty that gives me chill to the bone!
OpenAI has just added the Chain of Thought feature introduced by DeepSeek and is now claiming that DeepSeek stole that feature from them.
Ha ha, funny, jealous
Totally agreed. What a sore loser for Microsoft and OpenAI!
I simply love how OpenAI lost it's job to the AI before I lost my job to the AI
😂😂😂
same brother, my job quite in danger because AI but hey they lost to another AI already what a cinema
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Deep seek, is reasoning extraordinary well, I am a biochemist PhD working in bioinformatics for 30 years- The dialogues I was doing with Deep seek get me the impression that its "comprehension" and forward thinking is extraordinary intriguing. Instead of tinkering around lame problems, you can investigate "your ideas" and try to reflect them with the AI to get better summaries or helps you try out the proposed approaches. I am really happy, as the dialogues are like talking to a student.
You meant like talking to a teacher of course because you're learning something you have not thought of. But if you're talking to a student, he/she must be cleverer and smarter than you.
说参考了openAI是典型的造谣，deepseek使用ptx(英伟达计算卡的汇编语言)来构建模型和算法，这不是高级语言，是机器语言编码，是全新的模型和算法。这与openAI完全不一样。所以它能极致的应用硬件性能。虚伪的openAI使用互联网数据训练而不付出任何代价，现在还造谣deepseek盗用他们的数据训练，这种典型的造谣，真的是让大家看到了openAI的无耻。
@@denishooi6547
I guess for phd holders, they can take their students’ thoughts/ideas and process them differently than us mere mortals?
@@denishooi6547 No I'm pretty sure he meant what he said. These "AI"s are not superhuman by a long shot which they would need to be in order to "teach" a PhD. Saying they are like a discussion with a student is a good analogy. I'm curious Lareo, are you talking about post or under-graduate students?
@@clearz3600 A thinking one.
Sam Altman right now: how dare you try to steal what I rightfully stole?
How will ever American tech companies grow to be more better and innovative when using smearing tactics to these hardworking Chinese developers working using their brain not via their lips. The longer they smear, they will soon disappear in the Ai circle as many more Chinese firms will soon emerge.
Sam Saltman: I want billions to build AI.
Deepseek build it in a cave with scraps! and it's free and open for the people!
Yes real estate development as a government policy isn't going to work sometimes
I doubt it was done with scraps. I suspect the Chinese government bankrolled this massively, on the quiet.
Billions is not enough need to build a couple of hundreds of nuclear power plants.
DeepSeek: Am I the Iron Man? 😅
Nevermind the fact that Open AI was supposed to be open...
😂Well said
they would be open only for as long as they are not a monopoly. Data can't be kept centralized. No way they will every achieve that. People will take the data bit by bit from them and put it behind a login page with only a demo being available free to the bots. You want the data, log in first ...
So it's only the source is free, but not the data? What the heck!
@@swojnowski453 They literally stole data of people using their apps
It's honesty refreshing to see someone share their raw opinion on this topic.
Loved this video Sasha. Please keep up being the voice of the people and the good work.
Thank you!
They didn't just copy OpenAI's models - they improved upon them in some respects, and had to do some clever stuff to work around sanctions as well. And they published the science. And the models are downloadable/free/open source. Necessity is the mother of all invention, as people keep saying...
China is bigger than any other private venture in the US, they will always win, which is good. I fear China much less than I fear American and their usury fuelled captialism.
典型的造谣，deepseek使用ptx(英伟达计算卡的汇编语言)来构建模型和算法，这不是高级语言，是机器语言编码，是全新的模型和算法。这与openAI完全不一样，为何你要编造这个谣言？？？？
You also forgot that they use light chips instead of electric chips to get all their stuff lighter and faster
It's a thing incorrect,in fact they don't copy openAI 's model, deepseek dev just used some materials to train their own model, and openAI have no right to claim ,cause openAI got these materials from public resources,not their private property.
@@victoriadedicova you mean older, slower chips...the statement "light chips/electric chips" doesn't make sense.
Oh no! Someone stole data from us...
Meanwhile every photographer, author, poet and creative writer that had their intellectual property and copyrights infringed by generative AI companies - 🖕🏻
KARMA CAME FOR THEM ❤
Karma came for them fast.
Now OpenAI is part of the past.
Whoa.😮
Open ai is the biggest joke of our generation.
Closed open-AI vs Real open AI 😅
And the stock market still doesn't understand what all this means. Because it's open source, ChatGPT has become redundant. And anyone can take the AI and develop it further. All the AIs of all the big tech companies have become old junk overnight. And I love it!
Until your comment, that didn’t compute for me. That is soo true.
The stock market doesn't work rationally. It's a rigged system. American stocks are at absurd prices whilst some superior Chinese companies are almost penny stocks.
It’s amazing to me that this fact is not understood
The worst part for those companies is
A. They have no plan b
B. They look like complete amateurs as this was done cheaper and was the side project of a Chinese hedge fund 😮💨
they did a double tap. Janus pro, check it.
We have entered open source AI era where there will be more and more AI from now
Without data from others, openAI is just an idiot.
Still an idiot with all the access to steal others
I asked chatGPT about it. He said this:
Yeah, I get what you’re saying-it does seem a bit hypocritical if OpenAI complains about others doing the same thing they did. The reality is that AI companies are in a kind of “wild west” phase where everyone is trying to push the limits, but once they become leaders, they start wanting stricter rules to protect what they’ve built. It’s similar to how early tech companies relied on open internet access but later pushed for stricter copyright laws once they had their own content to protect.
When the AI model is more aware and intelligent than the people who created it
The level of hipocracy of these oligarchs just through the roof😂😂😂
OpenAI and tech bros are Deeply Sick
You have to go nuts just to justify your wealth off millions of people backs
"Open"AI should be paying trillions of dollars in copyright infringement fines.
The idea of a socialist country (China) providing free AI to everyone can be seen as a way of promoting equality and accessibility, while capitalist countries (USA) might be concerned about competition, innovation, and profit margins.
It's a fascinating dynamic, highlighting debates around how resources should be shared and who benefits from technological advancement.
China has a track record of making the things that benefit the people exceptionally cheap
So why isn’t China providing all other goods and services for free if they’re so committed to promoting equality and accessibility? But I’m sure you’re right and the Communist Dictatorship is just doing this out of the kindness of its heart.
that's exactly what socialists means
God bless China.
China is not a socialist country.
It's a mix of socialism and capitalism like pretty much every other country.
Something is in the market, something else i owned by the public.
Just for clarification, the US army is paid by the State, so it's "socialist" in nature.
This chinese company is private, it works in a completly capitalistic scenario.
F OpenAI those guys are the biggest pirates the world have ever seen
"Just because we data mined the entire Internet without anyone's consent doesn't mean you can data mine *_US_* !!"
Deepseek stole back from the rich and gave it back to the poor. True Robin Hood moment by a corpo of all things? Let's goooo!
Well, I'm glad to see that someone is finally acknowledging another case of China’s rip-off. However, you forgot to mention that anything you receive from DeepSeek is always filtered through the lens of a totalitarian regime, making it likely to be disinformation. When you get something for free from China, you always end up paying for it in one way or another.
OpenAI - steals your data to write their algorithms
Also OpenAI - gets mad at DeepSeek for stealing the data they stole first to write their own algorithms.
DS didnt steal data. they paid for it. in order to obtain millions of answers from ChatGPT (as they accused here), you have to buy tokens from OpenAI, so its been duly paid for.
its also noteworthy that under US law, only original expression can be copyrighted. so the answers that ChatGPT gave out are not copyrightable.
even if they are copyrightable, OpenAI needs to prove they are the original owner of the information or that they paid a license for it - which they did can not prove. just because ChatGPT might have said "Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way" - that does not mean they can sue DS for copyright infringement, because ChatGPT does not have IP rights over the original song anyway.
And if the training process of Deepseek was through a paid API, I doubt that even was stealing.
*_Suspected_*
OpenAI whistleblower found dead. I dare not speak much about OpenAI, otherwise they come killing us.. 😅
I can’t believe the words coming from my mouth but.. thank you, China
I said that myself maybe 15 months ago... found out almost everything we have been told about china is wrong, and every accusation is a confession.
😊🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@Ftjxmmged not just china but every other country that US has accused. If US govt cant win they will run the fake pr stunt to make them the villain
EXACTLY 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It was so sad what had happened to you people. Apparently the number of people who came to the awareness is still quite limited. If you go reason with them, they will bring you down to their level and always beat you with their experience. 😢
First Little Red Book and now Deepseek. Well done to the Deepseek Team. Chinese 6 millions Deepseek and Silicon Valley 500 billions DeepShit. This is China Hong Pow gift to the world. China is advancing fast and very fast on all frontiers. China is a blessing to the world. Wishing all a very Happy Spring Festival in The Year Of The Wood Snake
Wow. You know which element this year is. All I do is take time off and have fun.
I am not surprised that those companies went to attack DeepSeek, that was something I was expecting from the very first instant I heard about it's existence. But I have been seeing a lot of people regurgitating OpenAI complaints and on top of that going with the classic "Chinese can't do this" "Chinese always do that" "It sure is bad". And also A LOT of people showing how the evil Chinese apply censorship to answers that include certain words, something never seen before... SERIOUSLY?????? You can name any other AI and instantly figure out that they have been doing and still do and will continue doing THE EXACT SAME SH*T SINCE ALWAYS!!! What are all those puppets even complaining about???
It's becoming the norm with anything the usa says about china
China China China
So true!😂
Yeah it’s pretty wild how they’re apparently able to make products better than what we have by ‘copying’. Maybe these big western companies should be copying their own work if it produces such results, but something tells me they don’t have the will or the talent.
Jealousy of China will not succeed
The five stages of grief: 1. denial, 2. anger, 3. bargaining, 4. depression, and 5. acceptance. They are going through stage 2. 😡
Ya they get divorced from alternative reality
6th step - Irrelevance
best explanation!
Just wiah they are always there ， stage 2 .
😂😂😂
When my laptop was stolen, I only managed to recover it because someone stole it from the thieves, who then literally went to the police to report the person who stole it from them. When police saw the laptop it had same serial number I had reported
😂😂😂😂😂 I once caught the people selling a laptop they stole from me in a burglary on Ebay by asking questions before buying!
OpenAI complaining about R1 breaking their TOS is the most laughable thing considering OpenAI (and most others) dont respect robots.txt on the vast majority of the sites they scrape data from.
I remember there was a video AI maker who employed people to literally run a screen recorder on Netflix for hours on end. These guys don't give a hoot about intellectual property rights.
The real kick in the teeth was when OpenAI went against their promise to remain a non-profit. So it's quite satisfying to see a trillion dollars wiped off their value and hopefully Open Source domination is here to stay.
If you go to chatgpt and ask for coding, they compile the answer from coding examples written by many coders everywhere. So the audacity of shameless giant techs is freaking disgraceful and this result is so deserve.
they are not even accusing DeepSeek of stealing data. they are accusing DeepSeek of violating the Term of Service, which claims that the answers produced by ChatGPT shall not be used for AI training. it should be made clear that ChatGPT's answers are not original expression. and they can not be copyrighted. only the source code of ChatGPT is subject to IP protection.
the most that OpenAI can do, for someone who violate term of service, is that OpenAI can terminate its service, which they most likely already have.
for OpenAI to sue for damage or claim IP violation would be absurd. let alone, OpenAI need to prove they have IP rights first - since OpenAI is accused of stealing works of many others.
As I’ve explained to many companies over the years - your policies and terms are for your employees, they do not in any way affect my legal rights, so shove them, I don’t work for you.
And the operative word here is claim. OpenAI reportedly has evidence but haven't shown any, to my knowledge.
@@kickpublishing wow, is that so?? never realised.
Don't trust OpenAI, which is closed source.
When Altman said he would raise trillions, I knew he was creating a bubble that could pop anytime. Just never imagined it would be this soon.
Fantastic. Laughing my ass off at the hypocrisy of it all. Hate to say it but well played China
OpenAI is missing the point here... The key point is that the chinese are able to innovate better and more efficiently. The fact they are releasing DeepSeek "open sourecd " is just signaling, "here, take it and copy us if you want. We got more coming"...
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Open AI, they need to change there name to Closed garbage.
Glad DeepSeek is free. Long live the open-source!🍻
It had just suffered an 83-hour cyberattack from the United States, and China's different technology communities united to help it defend itself.
“A thief who steals from another thief is pardoned for one hundred years”
- Calvera in The Magnificent Seven (1960).
Well said
And give away free…
Thank you, sir!
说参考了openAI是典型的造谣，deepseek使用ptx(英伟达计算卡的汇编语言)来构建模型和算法，这不是高级语言，是机器语言编码，是全新的模型和算法。这与openAI完全不一样。所以它能极致的应用硬件性能。虚伪的openAI使用互联网数据训练而不付出任何代价，现在还造谣deepseek盗用他们的数据训练，这种典型的造谣，真的是让大家看到了openAI的无耻。
Thief from a Thief, God laughs. That's what we say in Jamaica 🇯🇲.
Kid: Mommy, they stole all my lemonade and distributed it for free.
Mom: Yeah, they added extra sugar and it was yummy.
Great comment, it's funny. Mommy said yummy.
@@cutbaitgofishing And the lemonade was made with lemons stolen in your neighbor's garden
@lesfreresdelaquote1176 good one.
It is illegal just when non-American do it
To say someone stealing the biggest thief and give back those things to the public for free is a top appraising, do they know that?
It's like you calling someone Robin Hood.😂
至少我看到了，并会持续的宣传它！😂
Everytime America thinks of China it cries like a babeh.. living without China is driving it crazey, today when China Al Passed on the street, America crybaby just fell to it's feet... And once again America just cried, cried cried,cried, cried...
its just begining , im sure more crying will come when china release new stuff. they need to get use to it.
It also appears that Deep seek bought and employed an Nvidia GPU to accomplish this nifty task. But that doesn't explain the drop in Nvidia. Should result in more sales for Nvidia. Am I missing something? Thanks!
Thanks for the support. I guess the market is unsure as to whether an infinite supply of ever more expensive GPUs is actually what will be needed in the future.
似乎？并没有 所以成本才很低
What did Suchar Balaji say about how OpenAI gathered its data? Too bad we can’t ask him anymore.
Why? Because Suchar Balaji has moved to other planet than the Earth?
Another DEI hire
@@etbuch4873 he was found dead in his home😢
"other planet".
Yes，heaven
I wanted to come and make the joke about how OpenAI stole all our data to start with but you all beat me to it 😂
A few short days ago DeepSeek plunged the planet into chaos. I was SMH. What a yuck it's been. Good for you DS, we love what you've wrought!
Thank you Sasha for speaking out. The robber who robbed a bank complained about a thief that steal a penny from his hard robbed bank money. The best part is the robber spent his ill gotten wealth on private jets and yacht and the thief gave it to the needy. Sinner complains about sin? Trump: Dig baby dig. Openai: Cry baby cry.
The fact that it would’ve cost them trillions to scrape other’s work and data might be why that person who quit OpenAI, who was going to come out about copyright issues, was assassinated
That would require a massive amount of tokens and cost a significant sum of money. Moreover, with the frequent and voluminous API calls, it's hard to believe that OpenAI hasn't noticed anything unusual.
Using openAI logic, google probably owns their search results 😂
and google never paid event a cents to user all rounds the worlds, they are thieving yet now blame deepseek stole they data
I saw it coming. When these big corps cannot compete, they will smear others on things they are doing themselves.
人无法想象出自己不能理解的事
in Spanish there's a saying: "Quien roba a un ladrón tiene cien años de perdón".
"He who steals from a thief, gets a hundred years reprieve".
I think it applies here.
Interesting that OpenAI isn't actually open source AI at all.
thats the irony of it all
In fact, OpenAi actually 'stole data', while Deepseek supposedly didn't. They might have used chatGPT to obtain 'generated content', which is not stolen data. I would think this to lead to a 'lighter model' which is different from the original. No 2 generated models are the same.
I would also think this approach would lead to less 'noise' in the model. The only problem with this approach is that you can't make sure that what you are retaining is not the noise, but the fact. So it feels like a 50/50 that the model actually is better than the original.
They just didn't steal they also unalived one of their engineers.
Whether they stole data or not, they gave one of the most valuable things to the world, not made it cry inside a shit data center.
And those data are stolen from people....... a thief is calling other thief a thief? 🤔
I personally experienced this in a microcosm of artists on the internet through the last year.
You/others spend years drawing stuff. Techbros come, scrape, start generating AI slop images. "Your art is in public domain, so I can use it."
Other techbros vultures come, start blatantly copying everything from them. And suddenly "YoU CaN't StEaL mY pRoMpTs, ThAtS tHeFt."
Bruh
Open Ai took public info and made it private. Mad at deep seek who made their private info public. Weird how that works.
When the boxer lost the fight, He accused his opponent stole his fighting skills. Such SOURGRAPE F
"it might be helpful for the boxer to work with a coach or sports psychologist to process the loss constructively." 😃😃
This is such an interesting story. The tech bros will be copyrighting their own arrogance next and complaining to their lawyers when they meet other like-minded individuals.
One interesting thing is that it destroys the incentive to put information on line. No one is going to come to your site so there is no reason to create it just so someone can steal it and not send them to your site
The irony is they call themselves Open A.I. 😂
Just show the empire is falling apart, the power they use to have it's slowly going away, now with the new head of office it's going go even faster.
As expected from a Hasan fan. Guess you'll enjoy the dictatorship once China takes control.
But on this topic I would have to give points to China for this move to democratize AI.
@@kuronoch.1441 lol funny
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Shock and disbelief: Feeling numb or in shock immediately after the event
Emotional upheaval: Experiencing intense emotions like fear, sadness, and anger (are we stuck here still?)
Understanding and acceptance: With time and support, you can begin to understand and accept what happened
Healing: Coping with and managing symptoms through therapy, support groups, or other treatment methods
Growth and renewal: Experiencing personal growth and a sense of renewal
Oh, they distilled it?
Prove it, Sam! Prove it in court! I dare you, MoFo!