taeyeon's really good at english but really shy! she would do fansigns fully in english and can converse. plus, she lived with tiffany (who constantly speaks english) for more than a decade.
17 years and still on the top of Korea music industry is really remarkable. Taeyeon is still her, not using others fames by collaborating but focusing on doing her music,keep challenging herself with diverse type of styles, makeup and music genres. Rather than showing everything all at once or seeking money and status, she show us different side of her slowly and naturally not only by words but actions. Her sincerity and responsibly for girls generation, Sones, SM and herself is real. There’s no one like her. My G.O.A.T. Thank you for the reaction 🌈💞🔥
IU is definitely more popular in general, there’s something people tend to bias towards if they are writing their own songs. But as a performer, I do think Taeyeon is way more flexible in expressing through various genres, which you could understand why so many senior or veteran singers would love to have Taeyeon working on songs together. Thanks to that, we got the legendary Time lapse, written for Taeyeon by Nell. Taeyeon will forever be relevant in the music scene because of her flexibility as a singer and performer.
I agree with you. IU is not only a singer, songwriter, and performer but also an actress, which is where much of her reputation comes from. However, as you mentioned, if we focus solely on the performer aspect, I still believe Taeyeon would top the chart.
On TY's left forearm below her elbow you will see a tattoo that say's 1969, I believe it is her father's birth year. He died pretty early, 50/51. It was also so tough as a fan, I can't help but be worried of her after what happened to Jonghyun. She did made a promise though and said she will sing for a long time, and I held into that and she is keeping it. I was also thankful she was casted in Amazing Saturday, she became happier. Happy Taeyeon, happy me. 😁
Overall., INVU reached No. 1 in 22 countries Australia Brazil Cambodia Canada Chile Hong Kong Indonesia Israel Japan Lebanon Malaysia Mexico Peru Philippines Saudi Arabia Singapore Sweden Taiwan Thailand Turkey Vietnam Macau
Taeyeon knows conversational english, she's been studying english even before she joined sm, however..she's not confident in speaking it. She only speaks english if she has to, for example: if she's in a Western country.
Taeyeon is a successful solo artist, while IU is not only a successful solo artist but also a successful actress. This makes IU more popular because her acting career contributes significantly to her music career. On the other hand, Taeyeon is very well-known for her singing as an idol and solo artist.
you can say Taeyeon is definitely a better and more skilled vocalist than IU. Iu is known for her unique vocal tone and she produces some of her songs.
Talking about Taeyeon's genre prowess. Her 4th album coming out in August. We are all more cuirous to what genre she will do for a summer track. We know she can sing it, we know it will be amazing, but the genre has us on our edge of the seat
this deep dive is good Taeyeon versatility really sets her apart from others My Fav Performance of her is "Lady Marmelade" from Kpopstar TV show (Not the concert) Hope you check that out She can speak conversational english coz during her concert here I don't remember her using translator for english. She does when we only speak our language She can understand a lot but can't really speak much Her Vocabulary is not enough.
if u wanna hear her sing like a soul singer u gotta check out her rookie years! she (and jessica) were very obviously trained with people like whitney houston, christina aguilera, and celine dion in mind and it shows. i suggest taeyeon's radio covers!
Yeah her English pronunciation is pretty good because she likes copying Tiffany when Tiffany speaks English lol She understands English pretty well but if she has to speak it it's just very basic conversational stuff
아이유, 태연 둘다 솔로 여자 가수로 인기는 비슷하긴 하지만.. 가수로 가창력으로 더 인정받는건 태연쪽인거 같아요. 걸그룹으로도 소녀시대는 국민걸그룹이었구 지금도 최근 걸그룹과 비교해도 전성기때 소녀시대만큼 인기가 압도적인 걸그룹은 없었기때문에 솔로로도 여자 아이돌중 1인자라고 생각함. 아이유는 예전에 전성기때는 한국에선 국민여동생이었고 그룹이 아닌 솔로가수로 성공한 드문 케이스였고 가수이자 연기자로 활동해서 둘다 활발하게 활동하는 대중적으로 인기있는 성공한 연예인 이미지. + 한국은 오래부터 단일민족, 단일인종 국가고 동북아시아는 원래부터 피부톤이 매우 밝음. 예전 삼국시대 농경시대때부터 고위계층은 농사를 안지어서 원래 태어났을때 피부 그대로라 타질 않아서 밝은 피부톤이 고위계층이고 농사를 짓는 농부들은 햇볕에 타기때문에 자연 태닝이되서 누가봐도 계급이 낮은티가 남. 오래부터 내려온 미의 기준은 눈동자와 눈썹과 머리카락은 검은빛을 띄어야하며, 볼과 입술과 손톱은 붉은빛을 띄고 주름과 잡티없이 윤기나는 밝은 살결이 미의 기준이었음. 이런 한국의 미의 기준은 애초에 단일민족 국가라 한국사람이나 동아시아 사람 동북아시아 사람 기준으로 생각하지 다른 인종은 너무 다르게 생기고, 현실감이 먼 타국가는 사실 별관심이 없어요. 타인종 외국인은 미의 기준으로 안둡니다. 외적인 이성의 이상형 이야기나 본인이 되고싶은 이상향 기준은 우리나라 사람 동북아시아 사람 기준으로 생각하지 타인종은 아예 머릿속에 없어요. 밝은 피부톤도 한국사람 기준 21호~13호톤 선호하는거고 우리나라 대중이나 연예인이나 연애프로그램에서 한국 사람들이 말하는건 어디까지나 같은 인종 사람 기준으로 말하는겁니다. 한국인 피부톤과 한국 미의기준을 왜 서양쪽 외국에서 난리인지 모르겠어요. 한국은 정말 오래전부터 단일민족 단일인종으로 우리만의 기준인건데 왜 서양국가 기준으로 평가하는지 오만한거 같아요.
Many Koreans are not light skinned, and I in no way think that speaking against such a sad and superficial thing like Colorism is arrogant. Colorism, however, is incredibly arrogant.
@@valenandtheo 피부색을 인종 차별과 연관해서 생각하는것이 문제인 것이지 개인적으로 좋아하는 피부색에 대해 발언하는건 아무 문제가 없습니다. 흰 피부가 특별한것이 아니듯 검은 피부도 특별한것이 아닙니다.그냥 각 인종이 갖고있는 특징중 하나일 뿐입니다. 좋아하는 피부 색과 싫어하는 피부색을 솔직하게 말해도 아무도 인종차별에 대한 의식조차 하지 않는 시대가 왔을때 우리는 이 문제에서 완전히 해방될 수 있습니다.
@@AACANE존나 웃기는듯 2천년전 부터 화랑이라는 화장하는 꽃미남 귀족부대부터 우리가 생각하는 하얀 피부는 잡티없는 깨끗한피부다 오래전부터 중국 한국은 소위말하는 백인들 홍인(빨강인간) 색목인으로 불럿다 쉽게 빨개지고 피부가 앏으면 주근깨 잡티가 많은대 우리가 원하는 피부가 아님
@@AACANE그리고 모든 인종 문재는 소위 백인들 문재지 우리 문재가 아니다 미국에서 가장 인종차별 받는 인종은 흑인이 아니라 동양인이고 가장 인종차별 많이 하는 인종은 흑인 라티노들 그러면서 본인들은 인종차별을 반대하지 왜 자꾸 지들이 만든 문재들을 아시아 지역까지 넘겨서 분담하길 원하지?
maybe in popularity... but everyone will agree Taeyeon is indeed the better vocalist, IU as an actress too add to her fane but Taeyeon solely focus on singing. and Taeyeon is the OST Queen and she always wins Best Female Artist, IU cant even win against Taeyeon especially when Taeyeon is nominated as a best female artist. Even BoA cant win against Taeyeon. of course IU is indeed a good vocaist but not on the same level as Taeyeon
in terms of popularity, IU takes the top spot but only because she's also an actress & she actively seeks out other popular idols (like BTS) to collab with her. Meanwhile Taeyeon is more skilled vocally.
Big labels can afford to be somewhat generous in forgiving training debt...but outside of the big 3, it functions more like the classic US "company store" of the previous centuries.
This guide misses out on how much like Chuu she was at the start. All of SNSD were popular guests on TV, but Taeyeon is fun, playful, pretty, and very charming. Tons of her TV shots became memes like Sana's 'cheese kimbap' on the early internet.
the countries INVU topped itunes in: canada, sweden, australia, japan, indonesia, taiwan, brazil, lebanon, mexico, the philippines, chile, hong kong, malaysia, singapore, thailand, turkey, vietnam, cambodia, saudi arabia, peru
Who really paved the way ? It has actually not much to do with the excellence of the K-culture, but largely to do with the pandemic and South Korea's brilliant control and management of it. Through the daily global news, every nook and cranny of the globe were forced to know about South Korea and its everything. Then they naturally caught what were and continued to come up on TH-cam, Netflix, etc. stuck indoors.
Sasaeng fan does not mean antifan, it means obsessed fan, so obsessed with their idols that they follow them all day long, whether in work or personal activities, try to enter their houses, etc....
돈에관한 정산 방식은 지금은 많이 바뀌었습니다. 요즘은 연습생들이 그만둔다고 하더라도 회사의 투자금이 연습생들에게 빚이 되지는 않습니다. 그건 회사에서 연습생에게 투자 한것으로 인식되어 온전히 회사의 부담이 됩니다. 다만 연습생들이 데뷔를 하게되면 그때부터 회사에서 투자한 투자금액을 회수하게 됩니다. 일정금액 수준으로 투자금을 회수하게 되면 가수들에게 정산이 시작되고 뉴진스 같은 경우는 데뷔후 첯 활동 끝내자마자 투자금을 회수하고 멤버들에게 정산을 시작했습니다.
Nice reaction👍. Thank you. I hope someday you'll also be able to check "HOW GIRLS' GENERATION CHANGED KPOP" by Jonathan Miller th-cam.com/video/Dx3aKt2npkI/w-d-xo.html Or, an SNSD guide by ohwoowoo th-cam.com/video/2vmvthBWsaA/w-d-xo.html
I love the How Girls Generation changed Kpop vid! It’s SO good. All of them are so popular in their own areas too. It’s amazing how everyone in a girl group of so many members are still incredibly popular to this day!
서양 사람들이 항상 착각하는게 색채주의로 인한 차별이 있다는게 한국인 입장에서 보면 신기해. 피부가 어둡다고 차별받는 일은 없으니 너무 걱정하지마ㅋㅋㅋ 아 그리고 피부를 하얗게 만드는 표백 수술이나 시술, 주사로 하얗게 된다라는 소문이 많던데 사실이 아니야 화이트 태닝은 본래 피부가 햇빛에 타기 전의 피부색으로 만들어주는거지 원래 피부색보다 더 하얗게는 안돼 우유 주사나 마늘 주사는 비타민 주사랑 마찬가지고.. 실제로 하얗게 되는 수술이 있으면 정말 피부로 차별받는, 피부가 계급인 나라에 수출해서 부자가 되었겠지? 물론 나도 요즘 음악방송 조명이 너무 하얗다는걸 인정해 톤을 올리는 메이크업을 하는 사람들도 많다는것도. 하지만 인터넷의 한국만 보지말고 실제 한국도 봐줬으면 좋겠어❤ 너희 영상항상 잘보고 패트리온도 재밌게 즐겨 고마워!
Asian pops before 2009 were literally non-existent in the Western market. So the Jpop graph here was shown in parallel only to give the sense of how small or negligible Kpop was before 2009. It is a shame that the graph did not show the period from 2009 to 2024 , failing to show the ridiculously different reality, giving only a serious distortions ...
As a long time Taeyeon fan, I hate SM Ent with all my soul. ''You had to be thin, you had to be white, you will say this, you will do this'' It's mobbing. The psychological damage they give to Taeyeon is insane. I think IU is more popular. She's also an actress and did collabs with BTS members. Many of the international fans who went to her fansigns said Taeyeon is fluent in english. She lived with Tiffany for years so that expected but she's quite shy. And her Japanese is basic but she can probably understand a lot of it. Also about contracts, I saw a list years ago about profit distribution. I don't remember other companies but for SM ent. it was %5 for artists' physical album sales.
No, that's not true at all. As opposed to a lot of agencies, artists under SM start getting paid right away. SM gets 90% of all incoming revenue amd the artist gets 10% until their trainee debt is earned back. After that, it goes to a much more equitable 60% to SM, 40% to the artist. The other thing that SM does is give their artists stock options. SM doesn't have very many artists that haven't retired wealthy.
Taeyeon is probably still the most successful singer to have come from a group not just within girls' generation. Lots of kids these days don't even know she's from a legendary girl group and jokingly know her as the nolto girl/amazing saturday girl. 😂😂 And yes, IU is definitely much more popular. I think what delineates both of them is really the fact that IU started out as a soloist from the start but for a soloist who came from a group first, Taeyeon is probably still the most successful one. On another note about popularity, she also wasn't the most popular member in snsd. It's actually Yoona but she's a close second. What's so unique about her is people know her for her amazing voice, her actual skill instead of visuals like most popular idols even if arguably, she's a visual as well.
거짓말 입니다. 태연은 거의 대부분의 시간동안 소녀시대 내 개인팬덤 1위였습니다. 각종 개인 카페는 물론이고 포털 싸이트에서도 항상 태연이 팀내 1위였습니다. 물론 윤아가 등장했던 드라마나 영화가 개봉했던 시기에는 간혹 윤아의 대중인기가 태연을 넘는 시기도 있었지만 이걸 제외하면 소녀시대 대부분의 시간동안 태연이 항상 압도적으로 개인인기 1위였습니다. 왜 확신할 수 있냐면 제가 소녀시대 초창기부터 지금까지 쭉 활동하고 있는 팬이기 때문입니다.
i disagree with her being a close 2nd most popular in snsd, only in denial sones & clueless kpop stans say that . She has the most number of fans in daum fancafe & biggest dcinside forum for a female idol. And up until this year, she's still able to reach Top 1 in female idol Brand Reputation and Top 2 in Idol Brand Rep, she's literally just right next to Cha Eun Woo. She's the only snsd member who is consistently able to rank inside Top 10 & Top 5 in Brand Rep even tho we are now at 4th generation of kpop
people have an impression that Yoona is more popular only because she's the center, the visual of the group. Plus she's also an actress, other people see her in a different perspective.
It’s 2024 now but some ppl still think Yoona is more popular. Taeyeon before always got the most fans among Snsd’s members. And now she is always top 1,2 in Reputation brand while Yoona is out of top 30. top 3 the most search female singer top 1 the most search idol in 5 years, she is also an idea idol for most girl group and boy group. Yoona is popular but compare to Taeyeon now, Taeyeon is another level.
@@phiphi6793 EXACTLY. I dont really understand sone's fear of admitting that Taeyeon is THE most popular member. Im not just talking about the comment above but its kinda like that on other social media sites. Its like they are scared to admit that their "punching bag" is on a different level already and not just their old "kid leader taengoo 🥺"
I want to explain why in Korea, whiter skin is a symbol of beauty. It is simply because people in the countryside working all day under the sun, get tan, while the "rich", the well-off, keep their skin whiter because they are not exposed to the sun. It is a fairly old idea that they have in this culture and I hope one day they will change....
Please react to this same channel explaining Girls Generation change K-pop And yes Girls generatioN are the total package talent SM debut. Being that best successful girl group
My first KPop songs were from Girls Generation, TVXQ, Super Junior, Shinee in 2009. Gee, Genie, Mirotic, Ring Ding Dong, Sorry Sorry.... The best era of KPop :)
IU is definitely way more popular and big than Taeyeon especially in Korea. Taeyeon is definitely vocally way more talented than IU and a very talented performer. But IU is a songwriter and conposer. She writes and composes most of her songs. And she was one of the first female idols who started writing her own songs. On top of that IU is also a very talented actress and has huge acting career. Her drama My Mister is still one of my top 3 favourite kdramas of all time. Both have different skill sets at which they excel. Tough as a artist I love Taeyeon more because her music is more of my alley. I truly admire both of them.
U forgot another thing that your iu sticks up with celebrities like BTS in order to increase her fame, but unfortunately her last song is a flooped soooo hard😂😂😂😂😂
Love your reactions! Could you guys please react to mamamoo’s killing voice. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group. They are the vocal queens of kpop! You guys will absolutely love them!
21:48 it’s without a doubt Bts. However absolutely no one can deny girls generations’ impact. Also Gangnam style was a global hit but for the majority of people, they did not even know it was K-pop, the song was just considered a meme and it didn’t really give K-pop more exposure. Even Psy said Bts paved the way.
The truth is you are lying, IU is loved in Korea but not more than Taeyeon, at this point they are on the same level, Tae is really loved by Koreans and she doesn't have the advantage of being an actress like Iu, don't sell your opinion like The absolute truth please 🤭
@@Svz-uv8pq you know what im not here to argue about Taeyeon and iu okay doesn't matter who's good okay they both sing real good both are famous .I don't have time for little kids tantrums. So you have your opinion and I have mine so drop it and grow the hell up thankyou goodbye case closed 🔒🔐
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taeyeon's really good at english but really shy! she would do fansigns fully in english and can converse. plus, she lived with tiffany (who constantly speaks english) for more than a decade.
wow thank you for the info❤
Fun Fact: her OST "If" that was released on 2008 is considered immortal coz it has not left Melon OST chart. Its been charting for 16 years!
17 years and still on the top of Korea music industry is really remarkable. Taeyeon is still her, not using others fames by collaborating but focusing on doing her music,keep challenging herself with diverse type of styles, makeup and music genres. Rather than showing everything all at once or seeking money and status, she show us different side of her slowly and naturally not only by words but actions. Her sincerity and responsibly for girls generation, Sones, SM and herself is real. There’s no one like her. My G.O.A.T. Thank you for the reaction 🌈💞🔥
IU is definitely more popular in general, there’s something people tend to bias towards if they are writing their own songs. But as a performer, I do think Taeyeon is way more flexible in expressing through various genres, which you could understand why so many senior or veteran singers would love to have Taeyeon working on songs together. Thanks to that, we got the legendary Time lapse, written for Taeyeon by Nell. Taeyeon will forever be relevant in the music scene because of her flexibility as a singer and performer.
I agree with you. IU is not only a singer, songwriter, and performer but also an actress, which is where much of her reputation comes from. However, as you mentioned, if we focus solely on the performer aspect, I still believe Taeyeon would top the chart.
couldn't agree more
On TY's left forearm below her elbow you will see a tattoo that say's 1969, I believe it is her father's birth year. He died pretty early, 50/51.
It was also so tough as a fan, I can't help but be worried of her after what happened to Jonghyun. She did made a promise though and said she will sing for a long time, and I held into that and she is keeping it.
I was also thankful she was casted in Amazing Saturday, she became happier. Happy Taeyeon, happy me. 😁
Overall., INVU reached No. 1 in 22 countries
Australia
Brazil
Cambodia
Canada
Chile
Hong Kong
Indonesia
Israel
Japan
Lebanon
Malaysia
Mexico
Peru
Philippines
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Sweden
Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
Vietnam
Macau
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Taeyeon knows conversational english, she's been studying english even before she joined sm, however..she's not confident in speaking it. She only speaks english if she has to, for example: if she's in a Western country.
She is fantastic
Taeyeon is a successful solo artist, while IU is not only a successful solo artist but also a successful actress. This makes IU more popular because her acting career contributes significantly to her music career. On the other hand, Taeyeon is very well-known for her singing as an idol and solo artist.
you can say Taeyeon is definitely a better and more skilled vocalist than IU. Iu is known for her unique vocal tone and she produces some of her songs.
Dont mention ure iu in Taengooo's videos & Taeyeon>>>>>>>>>>>> iu
l love taeyeon so much
Talking about Taeyeon's genre prowess. Her 4th album coming out in August. We are all more cuirous to what genre she will do for a summer track. We know she can sing it, we know it will be amazing, but the genre has us on our edge of the seat
Can you react Taeyeon "Begin Again" program.. She sings like when we were young and Slow Motion and so on ..
IU and Taeyeon in same level in Korea.
this deep dive is good
Taeyeon versatility really sets her apart from others
My Fav Performance of her is "Lady Marmelade" from Kpopstar TV show (Not the concert)
Hope you check that out
She can speak conversational english coz during her concert here I don't remember her using translator for english. She does when we only speak our language
She can understand a lot but can't really speak much
Her Vocabulary is not enough.
It's very simple.
She's an incredible singer.
And her fanbase had been clamoring for a solo album from her LONG before she finally released one.
Taeyeon is too good for this world. Everyone was so scared that Taeyeon might commit suicidal bc all her friends passed away from that.
if u wanna hear her sing like a soul singer u gotta check out her rookie years! she (and jessica) were very obviously trained with people like whitney houston, christina aguilera, and celine dion in mind and it shows. i suggest taeyeon's radio covers!
King Taeyeon is the best😍😍😍😍
Yeah her English pronunciation is pretty good because she likes copying Tiffany when Tiffany speaks English lol She understands English pretty well but if she has to speak it it's just very basic conversational stuff
아이유, 태연 둘다 솔로 여자 가수로 인기는 비슷하긴 하지만.. 가수로 가창력으로 더 인정받는건 태연쪽인거 같아요. 걸그룹으로도 소녀시대는 국민걸그룹이었구 지금도 최근 걸그룹과 비교해도 전성기때 소녀시대만큼 인기가 압도적인 걸그룹은 없었기때문에 솔로로도 여자 아이돌중 1인자라고 생각함. 아이유는 예전에 전성기때는 한국에선 국민여동생이었고 그룹이 아닌 솔로가수로 성공한 드문 케이스였고 가수이자 연기자로 활동해서 둘다 활발하게 활동하는 대중적으로 인기있는 성공한 연예인 이미지.
+ 한국은 오래부터 단일민족, 단일인종 국가고 동북아시아는 원래부터 피부톤이 매우 밝음. 예전 삼국시대 농경시대때부터 고위계층은 농사를 안지어서 원래 태어났을때 피부 그대로라 타질 않아서 밝은 피부톤이 고위계층이고 농사를 짓는 농부들은 햇볕에 타기때문에 자연 태닝이되서 누가봐도 계급이 낮은티가 남. 오래부터 내려온 미의 기준은 눈동자와 눈썹과 머리카락은 검은빛을 띄어야하며, 볼과 입술과 손톱은 붉은빛을 띄고 주름과 잡티없이 윤기나는 밝은 살결이 미의 기준이었음. 이런 한국의 미의 기준은 애초에 단일민족 국가라 한국사람이나 동아시아 사람 동북아시아 사람 기준으로 생각하지 다른 인종은 너무 다르게 생기고, 현실감이 먼 타국가는 사실 별관심이 없어요. 타인종 외국인은 미의 기준으로 안둡니다. 외적인 이성의 이상형 이야기나 본인이 되고싶은 이상향 기준은 우리나라 사람 동북아시아 사람 기준으로 생각하지 타인종은 아예 머릿속에 없어요. 밝은 피부톤도 한국사람 기준 21호~13호톤 선호하는거고 우리나라 대중이나 연예인이나 연애프로그램에서 한국 사람들이 말하는건 어디까지나 같은 인종 사람 기준으로 말하는겁니다. 한국인 피부톤과 한국 미의기준을 왜 서양쪽 외국에서 난리인지 모르겠어요. 한국은 정말 오래전부터 단일민족 단일인종으로 우리만의 기준인건데 왜 서양국가 기준으로 평가하는지 오만한거 같아요.
Many Koreans are not light skinned, and I in no way think that speaking against such a sad and superficial thing like Colorism is arrogant.
Colorism, however, is incredibly arrogant.
@@valenandtheo 피부색을 인종 차별과 연관해서 생각하는것이 문제인 것이지 개인적으로 좋아하는 피부색에 대해 발언하는건 아무 문제가 없습니다. 흰 피부가 특별한것이 아니듯 검은 피부도 특별한것이 아닙니다.그냥 각 인종이 갖고있는 특징중 하나일 뿐입니다. 좋아하는 피부 색과 싫어하는 피부색을 솔직하게 말해도 아무도 인종차별에 대한 의식조차 하지 않는 시대가 왔을때 우리는 이 문제에서 완전히 해방될 수 있습니다.
@@AACANE존나 웃기는듯 2천년전 부터 화랑이라는 화장하는 꽃미남 귀족부대부터 우리가 생각하는 하얀 피부는 잡티없는 깨끗한피부다 오래전부터 중국 한국은 소위말하는 백인들 홍인(빨강인간) 색목인으로 불럿다 쉽게 빨개지고 피부가 앏으면 주근깨 잡티가 많은대 우리가 원하는 피부가 아님
@@AACANE그리고 모든 인종 문재는 소위 백인들 문재지 우리 문재가 아니다 미국에서 가장 인종차별 받는 인종은 흑인이 아니라 동양인이고 가장 인종차별 많이 하는 인종은 흑인 라티노들 그러면서 본인들은 인종차별을 반대하지 왜 자꾸 지들이 만든 문재들을 아시아 지역까지 넘겨서 분담하길 원하지?
가창력 얘기는 맞는 것 같고, 인기는 상대가 안됨. 공연장 영상들을 봐 상대가 되나 ? 아이유는 톱배우이기도 한데 뭐가 인기가 비슷해?
Taeyeon and IU are known to be basically on par with each other
maybe in popularity... but everyone will agree Taeyeon is indeed the better vocalist, IU as an actress too add to her fane but Taeyeon solely focus on singing. and Taeyeon is the OST Queen and she always wins Best Female Artist, IU cant even win against Taeyeon especially when Taeyeon is nominated as a best female artist. Even BoA cant win against Taeyeon.
of course IU is indeed a good vocaist but not on the same level as Taeyeon
@danissegomez7953 ahh i shouldve mentioned that i was talking music and popularity wise😅 i agree with ur point tho
in terms of popularity, IU takes the top spot but only because she's also an actress & she actively seeks out other popular idols (like BTS) to collab with her.
Meanwhile Taeyeon is more skilled vocally.
Big labels can afford to be somewhat generous in forgiving training debt...but outside of the big 3, it functions more like the classic US "company store" of the previous centuries.
This guide misses out on how much like Chuu she was at the start. All of SNSD were popular guests on TV, but Taeyeon is fun, playful, pretty, and very charming. Tons of her TV shots became memes like Sana's 'cheese kimbap' on the early internet.
the countries INVU topped itunes in: canada, sweden, australia, japan, indonesia, taiwan, brazil, lebanon, mexico, the philippines, chile, hong kong, malaysia, singapore, thailand, turkey, vietnam, cambodia, saudi arabia, peru
Who really paved the way ? It has actually not much to do with the excellence of the K-culture, but largely to do with the pandemic and South Korea's brilliant control and management of it. Through the daily global news, every nook and cranny of the globe were forced to know about South Korea and its everything. Then they naturally caught what were and continued to come up on TH-cam, Netflix, etc. stuck indoors.
Sasaeng fan does not mean antifan, it means obsessed fan, so obsessed with their idols that they follow them all day long, whether in work or personal activities, try to enter their houses, etc....
Yeah, I think that's what Jonathan meant too but he got it mixed up
people nowadays tend to mix up the meaning of that word, which is kinda insane coz a sasaeng fan & antifan is literally the opposite of each other.
Please react "A Girl's Generation Guide"
16:44 Remembering how big their album sales were - I doubt that MX members didn't earn money starting from the first/second comeback
I think Kara and SNSD were the most popular girl kpop group to transition into the Japanese market. I’m really sad there wasn’t more Japanese songs.
돈에관한 정산 방식은 지금은 많이 바뀌었습니다. 요즘은 연습생들이 그만둔다고 하더라도 회사의 투자금이 연습생들에게 빚이 되지는 않습니다. 그건 회사에서 연습생에게 투자 한것으로 인식되어 온전히 회사의 부담이 됩니다. 다만 연습생들이 데뷔를 하게되면 그때부터 회사에서 투자한 투자금액을 회수하게 됩니다. 일정금액 수준으로 투자금을 회수하게 되면 가수들에게 정산이 시작되고 뉴진스 같은 경우는 데뷔후 첯 활동 끝내자마자 투자금을 회수하고 멤버들에게 정산을 시작했습니다.
Nice reaction👍. Thank you.
I hope someday you'll also be able to check "HOW GIRLS' GENERATION CHANGED KPOP" by Jonathan Miller th-cam.com/video/Dx3aKt2npkI/w-d-xo.html
Or, an SNSD guide by ohwoowoo th-cam.com/video/2vmvthBWsaA/w-d-xo.html
I love the How Girls Generation changed Kpop vid! It’s SO good. All of them are so popular in their own areas too. It’s amazing how everyone in a girl group of so many members are still incredibly popular to this day!
서양 사람들이 항상 착각하는게 색채주의로 인한 차별이 있다는게 한국인 입장에서 보면 신기해. 피부가 어둡다고 차별받는 일은 없으니 너무 걱정하지마ㅋㅋㅋ
아 그리고 피부를 하얗게 만드는 표백 수술이나 시술, 주사로 하얗게 된다라는 소문이 많던데 사실이 아니야 화이트 태닝은 본래 피부가 햇빛에 타기 전의 피부색으로 만들어주는거지 원래 피부색보다 더 하얗게는 안돼 우유 주사나 마늘 주사는 비타민 주사랑 마찬가지고..
실제로 하얗게 되는 수술이 있으면 정말 피부로 차별받는, 피부가 계급인 나라에 수출해서 부자가 되었겠지?
물론 나도 요즘 음악방송 조명이 너무 하얗다는걸 인정해 톤을 올리는 메이크업을 하는 사람들도 많다는것도. 하지만 인터넷의 한국만 보지말고 실제 한국도 봐줬으면 좋겠어❤
너희 영상항상 잘보고 패트리온도 재밌게 즐겨 고마워!
Asian pops before 2009 were literally non-existent in the Western market. So the Jpop graph here was shown in parallel only to give the sense of how small or negligible Kpop was before 2009. It is a shame that the graph did not show the period from 2009 to 2024 , failing to show the ridiculously different reality, giving only a serious distortions ...
As a long time Taeyeon fan, I hate SM Ent with all my soul. ''You had to be thin, you had to be white, you will say this, you will do this'' It's mobbing. The psychological damage they give to Taeyeon is insane.
I think IU is more popular. She's also an actress and did collabs with BTS members.
Many of the international fans who went to her fansigns said Taeyeon is fluent in english. She lived with Tiffany for years so that expected but she's quite shy. And her Japanese is basic but she can probably understand a lot of it.
Also about contracts, I saw a list years ago about profit distribution. I don't remember other companies but for SM ent. it was %5 for artists' physical album sales.
No, that's not true at all.
As opposed to a lot of agencies, artists under SM start getting paid right away.
SM gets 90% of all incoming revenue amd the artist gets 10% until their trainee debt is earned back.
After that, it goes to a much more equitable 60% to SM, 40% to the artist.
The other thing that SM does is give their artists stock options.
SM doesn't have very many artists that haven't retired wealthy.
Taeyeon is probably still the most successful singer to have come from a group not just within girls' generation. Lots of kids these days don't even know she's from a legendary girl group and jokingly know her as the nolto girl/amazing saturday girl. 😂😂
And yes, IU is definitely much more popular. I think what delineates both of them is really the fact that IU started out as a soloist from the start but for a soloist who came from a group first, Taeyeon is probably still the most successful one.
On another note about popularity, she also wasn't the most popular member in snsd. It's actually Yoona but she's a close second.
What's so unique about her is people know her for her amazing voice, her actual skill instead of visuals like most popular idols even if arguably, she's a visual as well.
거짓말 입니다. 태연은 거의 대부분의 시간동안 소녀시대 내 개인팬덤 1위였습니다. 각종 개인 카페는 물론이고 포털 싸이트에서도 항상 태연이 팀내 1위였습니다. 물론 윤아가 등장했던 드라마나 영화가 개봉했던 시기에는 간혹 윤아의 대중인기가 태연을 넘는 시기도 있었지만 이걸 제외하면 소녀시대 대부분의 시간동안 태연이 항상 압도적으로 개인인기 1위였습니다. 왜 확신할 수 있냐면 제가 소녀시대 초창기부터 지금까지 쭉 활동하고 있는 팬이기 때문입니다.
i disagree with her being a close 2nd most popular in snsd, only in denial sones & clueless kpop stans say that . She has the most number of fans in daum fancafe & biggest dcinside forum for a female idol. And up until this year, she's still able to reach Top 1 in female idol Brand Reputation and Top 2 in Idol Brand Rep, she's literally just right next to Cha Eun Woo. She's the only snsd member who is consistently able to rank inside Top 10 & Top 5 in Brand Rep even tho we are now at 4th generation of kpop
people have an impression that Yoona is more popular only because she's the center, the visual of the group. Plus she's also an actress, other people see her in a different perspective.
It’s 2024 now but some ppl still think Yoona is more popular. Taeyeon before always got the most fans among Snsd’s members. And now she is always top 1,2 in Reputation brand while Yoona is out of top 30. top 3 the most search female singer top 1 the most search idol in 5 years, she is also an idea idol for most girl group and boy group. Yoona is popular but compare to Taeyeon now, Taeyeon is another level.
@@phiphi6793 EXACTLY. I dont really understand sone's fear of admitting that Taeyeon is THE most popular member. Im not just talking about the comment above but its kinda like that on other social media sites. Its like they are scared to admit that their "punching bag" is on a different level already and not just their old "kid leader taengoo 🥺"
نقول الصدق ايو تحب التلزق بخلق الله وهالشي نافعها لان لو جينا للموهبه تايون تفوز وبجداره
اي شخص يطلع ترند تروح ايو تتعاون معاه شنو نسمي هالشي؟
@@saz1615صحيح تروح تتلزق بأعضاء bts حتى تزيد من شهرتها في حين تايون لحد الان لم تتلزق بأي مغني شهرتها بدراعها
I want to explain why in Korea, whiter skin is a symbol of beauty. It is simply because people in the countryside working all day under the sun, get tan, while the "rich", the well-off, keep their skin whiter because they are not exposed to the sun. It is a fairly old idea that they have in this culture and I hope one day they will change....
Please react to this same channel explaining Girls Generation change K-pop
And yes Girls generatioN are the total package talent SM debut. Being that best successful girl group
My first KPop songs were from Girls Generation, TVXQ, Super Junior, Shinee in 2009. Gee, Genie, Mirotic, Ring Ding Dong, Sorry Sorry.... The best era of KPop :)
IU is definitely way more popular and big than Taeyeon especially in Korea. Taeyeon is definitely vocally way more talented than IU and a very talented performer. But IU is a songwriter and conposer. She writes and composes most of her songs. And she was one of the first female idols who started writing her own songs. On top of that IU is also a very talented actress and has huge acting career. Her drama My Mister is still one of my top 3 favourite kdramas of all time. Both have different skill sets at which they excel. Tough as a artist I love Taeyeon more because her music is more of my alley. I truly admire both of them.
yeah idk about that. IU still have lots of plagiarism accusations but everything just get buried coz she's way too powerful now.
U forgot another thing that your iu sticks up with celebrities like BTS in order to increase her fame, but unfortunately her last song is a flooped soooo hard😂😂😂😂😂
Love your reactions! Could you guys please react to mamamoo’s killing voice. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group. They are the vocal queens of kpop! You guys will absolutely love them!
21:48 it’s without a doubt Bts. However absolutely no one can deny girls generations’ impact. Also Gangnam style was a global hit but for the majority of people, they did not even know it was K-pop, the song was just considered a meme and it didn’t really give K-pop more exposure. Even Psy said Bts paved the way.
해당 영상을 만든 사람이 K-POP에 대한 이해가 높은 편이긴 하지만 몇가지 오류가 보입니다.
지나친 과장, 일반화, 자의적 해석이 일부 보입니다. 대략적인 이해를 높이기 위해 보는 것은 좋지만, 영상 제작자의 주장을 전적으로 신뢰 할 필요는 없을 것입니다.
I agree with you IU in my opinion IU is number one in my book .I love Taeyeon but IU is so much loved in Korea
lol its because IU is an actress too
@@lovelybacon yes I know she played in a few k drama's
The truth is you are lying, IU is loved in Korea but not more than Taeyeon, at this point they are on the same level, Tae is really loved by Koreans and she doesn't have the advantage of being an actress like Iu, don't sell your opinion like The absolute truth please 🤭
@@Svz-uv8pq you know what im not here to argue about Taeyeon and iu okay doesn't matter who's good okay they both sing real good both are famous .I don't have time for little kids tantrums. So you have your opinion and I have mine so drop it and grow the hell up thankyou goodbye case closed 🔒🔐
@@Svz-uv8pq Ikr. IU's acting really adds to her popularity, and Taeyeon is well-known for her singing as an idol and solo artist.