The MG Cyberster Is Finally Here!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- Elliot goes for a drive in one of the most hotly anticipated new electric cars of recent years: the new MG Cyberster. A sleek two-seat convertible that takes MG back to its sports car roots, is this the first great electric driver's car - or is it it all scissor doors and no end product?
00:00 Intro
00:47 Exterior highlights
2:54 Shocking handling!
3:59 How fast?
4:28 Interior TOO space age?
5:45 Price?
6:07 Speedy roof!
6:54 Couple of gripes
7:22 Charging
8:15 MG has grown up!
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I love how he looked at the tail lights and immediately saw the union jack but had to wait for someone to tell him it looked like an arrow😅😂
Yes they are just arrows.
He must have some colonial nostalgia
Yeah, although it's barely impossible to find anything even remotely close to the union jack in this most arrow-like arrow ever 🙃
I too was confused by this
It’s only a Jack when flown on a Jackstaff otherwise its the Union Flag…so saying I’m confused as to why it would be stuck on a Chinese car ?. The German mini has the same thing !😊
Garbage car
I'm pleased that unlike on a modern Mini, the turn signals don't include an arrow pointing the way you're NOT turning.
I’ve seen this comment before about the Mini and it confuses me. My 2021 Cooper SE has the split Union Jack pattern within the tail lights - but they are not turn signals (otherwise, I can definitely see how they would point the opposite way to the turn). When the turn signals are activated there is a separate horizontal bar that bisects the light that flashes. Now mine is a Canadian spec car - perhaps these work differently than UK lights or other markets?
The lights on the mini are fine unless you live in a country that uses red instead of amber for turn signals.@@motorv8N
@@motorv8N Part of the problem is that the US market idiotically allows red taillights to be used as signals, unlike the rest of the world, so they probably just figured to save a few bucks and blink the whole wrong-pointing arrow.
@@kantoendrato - interesting - makes sense. The market differences don’t end there. For instance, my MINI also has fog lights in the lower rear bumper, complete with bulbs and wiring in place however, there is no switch to turn them on. Perhaps driving around with brake light-bright red in your bumper is not allowed in Canada although I see them activated on the highway on Audi and Mercs here. I’ve read you can get into the vehicle management, software with a BMW aftermarket app and activate those lights in a number of ways - as running lights, as brake lights, and if you add the switch to the dashboard blank, the aforementioned fog lights. Someone figured it must just be cheaper to install all the hardware on the line, then separate different country spec cars with just different software configurations. Don’t see how that’s true but there you go.
It does make you wonder how that bit got past multiple levels of approval during development without a single person saying, "Hey, hang on a second..."
Trying to sell me 30cm wider and longer and 800kg heavier as small margins was a reach Jordan Pickford would be proud of
MG is as British as the food in your local Chinese takeaway is
With no good local food, Brits are forced to accept it. Yes tikka masala and egg drop soup is British, so is this MG.
Gotta cope somehow
@@TsLengthose curries were invented by a Bengali chap. Bloody glad he did. What does it matter who owns the marquee. All these companies are owned by shareholders from all over the world anyway. The notion of nationhood is well and truly over as money doesn't subscribe to national rhetoric, it visits whatever country it can multiply in! It's only people who try to personify and tribalise material possessions and company ownership.
Ironically, its likely as British as your local Chinese takeaway is Chinese ie not very much
@@davidk.d.7591 Yeah I can't see a takeaway in China offering a "spicy box".
Least the food in the local Chinese was grown in Britain, and made by people who pay taxes there.
Biggest question: how could they not call it the MGE?
Nah, MG was already at F and TF back 2 decade ago. This shall be called MG-G. It is a missed opportunity, but it can also be this thing is lot larger than the B, F and TF.
They wanted to have a laugh at Tesla Roadster and Cybertruck that will go into mass production, very soon, some year.
they might want to save this for a better car
Maybe reserving it for another model?
then they could follow up with the MGE GT...
Last time I checked " dystopian" was a bad thing...not sure why or how this is related to this car
Maybe it was a cry for help 😂
Cyberpunk 2077
Merely an indication, as compared to datopian; pl. desetopians.
Neon drenched would have been a more accurate descriptor of Shanghai. Also, hyper-capitalist.
Dystopia in western terms are something dreary and haunting, which unfortunately is exaggerated here
Come on Mazda… electric MX-5… chop chop! Tiny battery, never mind the range, physical buttons, no driver assist systems. I will buy one!
With rotary engine range extender.
@@EverydayRoadster Considering how bad the reception for the Rex MX-30 has been, no chance.
Would be cool but cars have to be sold with assist systems or else get 1 star in the crash test and nobody buys it :(((
Pleeeeeease yes
@@Tsenngu Some cars still have the off-button for assists.
How many times did Elliot use the term "dystopian"??
I think he needs to look up the definition of that word!! 😂
It looks like something out of a movie that depicts a dystopian future. It would look very much at home in cyberpunk 2077 or Blade Runner or Akira. I mean I think hopeful visions of the future should have cool sports cars in them too, but that's just me.
3. He used it 3 times.
@@AlRoderick only that Cyberpunk got it right with less EVs and more alcohol fueled combustion cars
"very bad or unfair society in which there is a lot of suffering,"
suffering and misery aren't what I would describe that MG sports car I hope he didn't mean that meaning of the word or he just picked it out of his brain because it sounded good yep I think I hit the nail on the head LOL
Elliot should really get more critical.
This is just like an ad.
Isn't that a characteristics of this channel? Biggest and harshest criticism what I heard - "it's another midsize SUV" and then 10 minutes of sugar and sweeteners. I am wondering, after watching, shouldn't I check my insulin levels, just in case.
How funny. Check out the comment just above yours…
I think he likes living in China.
@@kritasto2813 Most car reviewers are uncritical.
He cant his in china, if he got critical he would be disappeared. So everything is always ok or good and never a real review. i normally just skip through to see the car and stats now but there wast much.
Saw this on the London event yesterday. This video doesn't do it justice. The quality is Supercar like and the looks are better than a Lotus. Best thing that wasn't mentioned is the seat hight. I am tall and wide and I could fit easily and get in and out. The only roadster I can fit pretty much 😅 I will be ordering one when it comes to the UK
The lights work. If we'd seen it in daylight, we'd have a better idea of its looks.
Go look at other riviewer clip. All of them tested at day time. It could be Eillot only secure the over time for this press car, which end up the sun goes down already. If this is the same press car from another video, then there is always close to 5k on it for the brief couple months out.
Could you imagine a dashboard with just round dials?
Maybe back in the 70's
@@justmechanicthingsYou must be one of these people that clammers for 5G masts everywhere because 4G is “stone age technology” 😂
ok grandad, do you also have a nokia phone? 🤣
"Best car ever made" - and then goes on about all the shortcomings. I seriously do not understand this review.
Without being awkward, how can you say it handles well while only pootling around in the city?
Stop being so polite (you must be a UK person). Exactly! this guy was just full of UK biased MGism. He told us nothing about the car. Nothing of any use.
@@Mexxx65 good guess but I don’t like troll. Always much better to be polite. In a few of the shots it looked like it was rattling a bit front to back. It’s a nice looking car but those rear lights are truly awful
@@ds2000 Seriously, this review sucked. "Best car ever made", "perfect for our dystopian future"...my God! Dude needs some honest, pointed criticism if he's going to improve. We need to have access to good, accurate information...not utter bollocks.
Sorry but the reviewer is an amateur. “Scissor doors the most important part of a sports car”. Really ?!? “Not much bigger than the MGF - only 30cm wider” that’s a huge amount bigger. This guy is leagues below the other Fully Charged presenters - badly diluting the brand in my opinion.
@@richardperry9218 slightly heavier... by 80% ;)
If it's a sport cars a proper handling test by an experienced driver would have been useful.
Most sports cars are driven by old men who can't drive, so that would be a waste of time.
Other reviews have suggested it handles more like GT than a sports car.
he only like tiny cars with one horsepower and six-inch wheels so your right lol
This was my take “handles amazingly” at 30mph in a city
@@davidqbs Uh-oh there goes any Porsche comparison this reviewer is trying to sell us all here.
Can already tell this car isn't going to do very well.
Thanks, nice review. When we had that kind of $, we would buy it as our daily driver. Great car, and one of the very rare 2-door EV's.
That thing is gorgeous. Imagine it in a dark green with a tan interior 😍
Is it really "steer by wire"? Does the steering ratio change with speed? At slow speeds does the steering govdull lock in just a 180 degree rotation? How many turns of the wheel to go lock to lock. If it is indeed steering by wire and programmable it might make sense to have a yoke steering wheel.
30cm wider is not a lot? Sorry what? 😂
Would have been nice to include a daytime shot so we could see what the car looks like.
What is the writer of this on?
'thrown off their stodgy reputation' yet the car weighs more than 2 mgbs combined
'best car ever made' a ludicrous thing to say about a sports car that weighs more than a land rover evoque or a bugatti veyron
'blast on a b road' if this thing even fits on a b road i'd be impressed. you'd spend the whole time terrified of something coming round a corner and smashing your mirrors off or scratching your paint.
I think there is sooo much potential in the sports car market for evs, but this misses the mark by a country mile.
They really try hard to make chinese cars look good. Very weird.
And if it's twice as good as an MGB, What do you get when you multiply two times zero?
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck eh?
The quick view of the charging port appears that it has a type 2 AC and what looks like a Chademo DC. If that is the case is it an indication of V2G capability using the Chademo?
"Best car ever made?" - judging by the drive and ride of my ZS EV, I'm more than a little sceptical 😂
30cm longer, and 30cm wider? How is that not a lot?!
Wasn't sure if it was 30cm wider, or 13cm wider.
@@logicalChimp Yes I went back and checked that as well, sub titles seemed to think it was 30 as well. That's a lot. Admittedly the MGF/TF was a small car by today's standards, but in which case better left unmentioned, rather than "it's only a foot wider..."
Porsche will just shrug and come out with the next generation Boxster and Cayman EVs at max. 1500 kg, with 10x the boot space back and front combined, and a classy cockpit. But most likely also at another price tag. Until then, this new MG is definitely something to look forward to!
I wouldn't hold your breath for a 1500kg Porsche EV.
@@UKenGB yep, the Taycans arent really that light.
I think if anyone's able to make a good compact EV sports car it would be Porsche.
But I'm not sure whether they're biting off more than they can chew with it.
It seems to me the tide's already turning, EVs have become way more unattractive than they were a few years ago,
and talking of sports cars we're talking about a potential buyer who was skeptical of EVs to begin with.
The Porsche EV roadster might become a devastating flop. I certainly wouldn't rule that out.
in 10 years there will be as many european car brands as smart/mobile phone brands
@@thecursed01 Hear, hear... 🤷♂
I was also thinking of a stripped down version too. But not of the screens and materials but the really heavy and expensive stuff. The scissor doors and the automated convertible roof. Just make regular doors and fixed coupe roof. That could really slash the weight and cost
How does it weight more then a m3 LR and less battery? Is the frunk full of stuff too no storage?
Sports cars have traditionally been lightweight for many reasons.
Limited market and heavy batteries mean manufacturers haven’t risked making ev sports cars, 1850kgs isn’t lightweight, technology will improve but unless as a modern car with safety kit it’s near or under 1200kgs it’s missing the true nimbleness and lightweight sports car feel.
Nimbleness is more a function of power curves and moment of inertia; with the instant-on torque of an electric motor and the low center of gravity of the battery pack, an EV could be just as nimble any sports car of old. Steer-by-wire means you can dial in any sort of desired feedback to match expectations too.
I think 1200 kg is a bit unrealistic these days unless you're going for an MX-5. Even the Boxter is north of 1400 kg.
@@drunkenhobo8020 Project V is 1190kg
@@DavidKnowles0 I'm very excited for the Caterham but all the carbon fibre and the bespoke sports car platform required to achieve that low weight add cost.The Caterham is £30k more than this MG, and no doubt it won't stand up as well in a crash.
It was more of a response to how 1200kg is unrealistic today. A weight below that has been achieve and has energy density of batteries improve we should start to see some big weight walls over the next 15 years@@benrgrogan
Shame this was filmed at night, would’ve been good to see it in daylight.
Sounds good. I hope it does well.
I hope it sell well so that they can make a fix roof one.. It has the possibility to be better in many terms, range, body rigidity etc.. And cheaper
There is a single characteristic shared by all true sports cars since about 2000, which they do not share with the majority of other cars. Lamborghini, Ferrari, most Königseggs, Porsche 911, Pagani, Audi S8, BMW M, Mazda MX5, new Tesla Roadster (not the original Roadster and not the Model S Plaid), and others: the brake calipers are as close as practicable to the car's centre of mass. That is, the front brake calipers are to the rear of the disk and the rear brake calipers are to the front of the disk. Very few true sports cars do not have this brake caliper mounting pattern. Of course there is a random smattering of ordinary cars which do this too (eg: Chrysler 300C, pre-2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee). Note that MG engineers decided to mount their brake calipers where they should be on a sports car. If they did this right, they probably did a few other things right too.
This is quite the car, I like the idea and design. What's interesting to me is that I see hints of: Lexus LC500, Alpine A110 and Porsche 911 on the outside, and Corvette C8, Tesla, Ferrari on the inside.
Can deff see A110!
I really can see that all of them have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel.
Thanks for mentioning some downsides as well that actually do feel like downsides to me too. Makes the video feel more real and honest than many happy-happy reviews of fun cars out there
1800kg. Big battery and dual motor is 2000 kg. Shame. Keep in mind: the 77 kWh battery of VW is around 500 kg and that's not cutting edge tech. So the cyberster without a battery will still weigh over 500 kg more than a current gen MX-5.
Is the prototype a LH drive? I like everything about the MG except the name of the car. Cyber this and cyber that. That said, Open tops and video screens dont co-exist well in the weather over time.
Who came up with the name "Cyber ster" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue does it.
I had been hoping that was just a placeholder. But time is closing and it looks more likely I'm wrong.
Porsche Boxter
@@Y2Kvids what about it ?
@@phillheth it's automotive enough. Box ter .. Cybers ter .. Forest er
Elliot pronounced it "Cybah Stah"!
It does look nice as a sports car for those Sunday afternoon drives across the fields or coastal roads with your significant half... but you lost me when drive-by-wire was mentioned!!
What's wrong with drive by wire? Its been standard on race cars for years. Standard on airplanes for decades.
@@benrgrogan Plenty of information on the Internet about that, up to you to make your own judgement of such technology on road cars and why it hasn't been used on road cars...
And it's been standard on airplanes for a very good reason: weight reduction and complexity of all the cabling and linkages that would have to be used on larger and larger airplanes.
I'm unaware of any racing competition that uses steering-by-wire, which is the drive-by-wire component discussed here!
There's nothing complex about having a steering shaft connecting the steering wheel to the steering arms and to the wheels, and steer-by-wire attempts to be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, but that comes with its own issues and future problems...
This felt like an advert.
That might have been exciting mif you showed the car in the daylight. As a professional photographer if I want to under emphasize flaws, I lower the light levels so that they don’t show.
well, sounds like a nice car...I wonder what it looks like?
That bar descending from the dash separating driver from passenger does a good job of preventing the passenger touching the screen
For some people that's the good thing, the cargo doesn't get to mess with the music :D
I believe the technical term is an "Oh, S***!" bar.
Had this same thought. No radio fiddling!
That is the Cop Edition.
I don't think it is advisable to declare - "I'm shocked"! - when you get into an electric car!
😂😂
Same with 'Blown Away' for ice sports cars
love it, hate the name... what is wrong with Roadster... cyberster indeed, and yes strip it down
Alternatively, MG have _never_ used the name MGE.
Fairly sure Tesla would object to it being called Roadster. But yes, Cyberster is just nasty
@@MandyFlame MG Roadster was the original
I think with the handling of the MG4 and this is basically a sports car on top of the MG4 platform it was likely to impress.
You can’t be serious, the first rule about buying a car is never view it at night!!
I would hazard a guess that the first rule about reviewing a car would be, when you have the allotted time to review it.
But, but, that's how driving in a dystopian future would look like!...
My revivifier says, "I'd like to meet the guy who designed the MGB's gearbox at night - in a dark alley!" ✊
I'd hazard a guess that they filmed this immediately after getting the keys just so they can be the first video out on TH-cam.
its time for a change
Its all over the place this review. The lights having essence of Union Flag is a stretch and the best car ever made? With black plastic and 4 silly screens. Nice production value though.
Love the look of this, steering by wire too impressive stuff.
8:05 a mention of why the charging ports look different would be nice here.
China has it's own standardized charging plug, which every car in China uses, just like how Europe has a standard plug and America does.
America doesn't really have a standard yet. Though Tesla's own might become that soon
@@davidk.d.7591 Tesla and CCS1 will be cross-compatible later this year, so at that point it will just be a $100 adapter between each of them, and there will effectively be a single standard.
@@davidk.d.7591USA now has a defacto standard - NACS (Tesla charging in fancy clothes) - given that virtually every automaker that sells in the US has committed to using NACS from 2025 (and providing adapters from this year, iirc)
Cyberster sounds like a name Max & Paddy would give to a mate who likes going on the dark web.😂
Well THAT'S put me right off
It's a terrible name. Literately just a conflation of cybertruck and roadster.
The have the MGX name range.
MGE
MGR
Certainly has that wow factor with all those LCD screens and party trick door. This is the one to drive down the boulevard 😂
Very nice.
Assume the scissor doors are not production?
Nice car but this video looks like a sales pitch than a review
True, Elliot is always like this and it irritates me as well.
However I suspect they have no choice if they want to be left at peace in China & get acces to first looks of cars quickly
Is this a parody? Did I miss the sarcasm-warning-sign?
I'm someone who bumbles around British B road in my MGB today :) Looking forward to at least a test drive in this new car.....
“Unfortunately, luxury sells” what a strange thing to say
Lightweight Trophy version would be ideal, as would a owner-installable hardtop.
A nice Chinese looking car isn't Porsches nightmare. The quality and reputation of Porsche is way in a other dimension.
Reputation, sure. Quality, most likely not. Putting aside existing preconceptions, Chinese cars are extremely reliable from a statistical standpoint.
@@TD1237 You got no knowledge about Porsche i think.
@@martink.9442 Well, you know German cars are generally known to be unreliable, right? In fairness though, Porsche seems to be an exception, surprisingly, so you're not wrong in that sense.
But, as I said earlier, modern Chinese cars are notoriously reliable, so make of that what you will.
Of the Porsche's I have owned, 944 and 911, quality was not exactly a feature. Expensive repairs, dealerships who would say things like "yeah, they all break like that at ____ miles", and expensive maintenance. Or don't buy this series of car, if you do they break this way and that way, etceteras... that's Porsche. Dealers who imagine that's just what you should expect from an expensive toy. Of course, that's just my experience, maybe your's has been better? Where as I would expect a Chinese EV like this to be pretty much an iPhone on wheels, very little maintenance if any.
You're right like they said this new car was a Tesla killer 3 years ago but wait tesla is still the leading brand out there and when the Model 2 comes out they still will be and I don't own a Tesla never driven one yes I would love one for sure but I know this they are safe well designed and pretty reliable lol.
I like! And yes, I'd like electric windows, cruise control (adaptive don't really care), airconditioning and good seats. Make it cheaper (I don't care about the luxuries) and hmm, enticing!
I am more concerned about all the electric cars grinding to a halt in these cold conditions. It's all over the internet.
“I have the money for a Porsche, but I think I’ll get an MG” - No one, ever.
"I have the money for a Porsche, but I can buy an MG cyberster, and an MG 5 for daily commute, and have money left over for a grand holiday"
I have to say the MG is the best-looking sports car out there it going to be one hell of a head turner that's for sure. and 4 seconds is no slouch either for a rear-wheel drive car god knows if they come out with a Dual motor one all I can say is you, lucky devil.
Exactly! The idea that the average Porsche buyer is going to settle for a second rate Chinese car instead is just laughable. The most prestigious car brands are not competing with the least prestigious.
@@bugsygoook, until the Chinese car matches the quality and style and beats the performance. Porsche know they are up against it with EVs
You're not getting a new Porsche, let alone an EV for that sum of money....
Love the styling, and especially the return of a fabric roof ( depending on how it holds up)
I can't wait to get a test drive. It looks a little floaty at the front going over bumps though. There's a lot of bounce going on there. Perhaps a the dual motor version will help with that.
I don't know the count of "dystopian" in this video, but I'm sure you're unsure of the definition. Otherwise, solid review. Thanks.
Seems like a decent car however personally too many screens for my liking
This isn't Porsche's nightmare; it's more like the nightmare version of Porsche.
Where is the Porsche Equivalent or Tesla roadster. Cant see it....2025 is when Porsche boxster drops
Wonder if it will lose 50% of its rrp in less than 12months like the Taycan 😂
Porsche is thinking about moving their factory to China soon!
@@namelesswarrior4760yes, Porsche factory will be in northern china, being built.
@@wangyaohan8824 Yes! I know. I was trolling @flosser
Excellent report by Elliot’s more vigorous presentation.
The best far ever made, seriously? Cmon man 😂😂😂
If this was my car: The lower front lip is droopy - aftermarket lower valance could solve that. I'd prefer a black interior without the piano black bits. The name is horrible so de-badging the rear emblem is a must. The wheels are pretty ugly so there's another thing to update. Hopefully, the second version of this (in a few years) has less screens. Don't think that I don't like the car but it needs some work. It's a very good first attempt.
Fewer screens
fewer screen sound impossible for chinese car (I meant it). OR reduce it to 1 but continuesly from left to right (you can browse many 2024 chinese cars, they have this kind of screen).
@wangyaohan8824 less screen is good, or fewer screens....
@@jimmys6566 reduce to 1, 40inch-ish wide (not 3-4 screens combined to 1 panel).
That dashboard reminds me of a low quality arcade driving machine 😂
If it came fitted with a speed camera jammer, I’d be interested.
Oooh - this is lovely Elliot! Was this spawned from the E-Motion coupe that MG revealed at the 2017 Shanghai Auto Show?
As a porsche owner, I can clearly tell this is Chinese and not German. 😂
I don't think it matters how good it is, people who can afford a new Porsche aren't going to opt for a Chinese car, whether that's fair or not. Porsche is safe for now.
He said it will sellin UK for £50k. That's barely competing with a Model 3, forget Porche.
Only if they get an electric sports car out there. Otherwise, MG is going to steal quite the march on them.
That's why Audi execs should be worried
Or Alpine for that matter!
Only if you suffer from badge snobbery, this looks better than any Porsche.
I totally agreed. But, .... There is a "but" factor. When smartphone first came out, I wouldn't buy any phone other than Samsung. Now, I wouldn't buy any phone other than Xiaomi or Huawei. 😉
Strip out the gadgets fit conventional doors with handles and fit a hard top, the screens are great for cities but having now used camera mirrors while driving a 44t truck I don't like the fact a screen is always glowing especially on dark roads so I am glad to see this hasn't got camera mirrors at least. More basic like the Carice you recently featured would be better!
That's a worthy challenge to MG Elliot.
My challenge to them is to ramp up production to meet demand, maximise their profit and maybe even bring about a price reduction in a few year. So far there's only one company in the west doing that...
Damn MG. Just drop an Analog Dials in the Dash..
Having just monstered the Tesla Plaid around the ring, this is no threat to Porsche.
I anticipate the electric Boxster will be better to drive - but where is it?? MG will be facelifting and tweaking this car by the time it shows up
I saw that - I think I will wait for the production version to come out to see if that still stacks up - that Taycan GTS was a hollowed out shell (no rear seats, no interior carpet, no headliner, no rear door panels, no soundproofing, carpet removed from the trunk, no passenger infotainment, carbon fibre seats etc etc) and with who knows what other suspension, tyre, brake and battery mods probably the best part of 200-300kg lighter than what you can buy off the showroom floor.
@@TB-up4xi Taycan is 2200kg but im sure it handles well...with its 50k battery
@@JackScarlett1 An have you seen how ugly the Electric Boxster is.
"This might be the best car ever made" then proceeds to complain about the black piano pieces and the amount of screens and how they are blocked by the steering wheel LMAO
Unlike many other comments - I really like the review, especially by night. There are already many daytime shots, and here you can see the illumination very nicely. For me, it isn't really a sports car, but a cruiser. It would replace my former Mercedes CLK Cabriolet. For that reason weight is not so important. I am strongly waiting for that car, and for sure will be one oft the first customers in Germany.
1850kg!?! those screens look awful with those giant bezels.
It looks huge, and weighs like most electric crossovers. I would just buy a Tesla Model 3 Performance. If I really wanted a roadster just for fun it would still have to be a Miata.
Go watch the track videos. This corners flat and handles good...also x power will be 540hp 3 secs to 60
What a lovely fun looking car. Couple of tweaks and it could be amazing. Just hope they get the uk price point right as it could make it a runaway success!
The indicator arrows is really not a nice feature for me.
Would love to see it in a less darker environment.
We'll see how the news around the car evolves.
Someone should tell MG to stick their fingers out of their hole and send their brightest to make an EU ready small, affordable EV that can rival the BYD Seagull
I respect this work of quality engineering and design; but we're all sick to the back teeth with all of these high end MenoPorsches for mid life crisis dwelling men with more euros/pounds/dollars than braincells and plugged hairs to rub together.
They already have it’s called the MG3 less than £20k ?
Sound like a hater
This car poses literally zero threat to Porsche.
Well, Porsche's biggest market China sales down 40% since Q3 of last year.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kindly don't type nonsense.
Nobody has any idea how fickle drivers can be when it comes to cars.
All it needs is a "face" to crack on how fabulous a car is and people immediately start to consider their options.
You'll get there eventually.
Well, hopefully that is.
@@robbrand922 No big sellers from Porsche came out last year, this year we are getting another Taycan, Panamera, Macan & EV Macan. If the sales are poor this year then there is a legitimate issue.
@@darkmist977 I am not saying this car is a direct competitor of Porsche but there are many competitors coming. Chinese car market is so fxcking crazy. That is crazy good.
Because the are completely not comparable besides the fact that they are both sports oriented. This car cost half of what a porche costs
It's a lovely looking car, if they could do a pared back trophy version for around £45, pretty sure that would sell like hotcakes. Just a little correction, the TF is 590mm shorter. (3943mm against 4533mm).
7:27 What charging standard is that using? It actually looks a bit like CHAdeMO on the right and J1772 on the left, but having CHAdeMO makes no sense since that standard is falling by the wayside. Some China-only standard perhaps?
Yes, it's called GBT.
The old MGs (B, BGt, Midget...) were basic and affordable. This rich-man's car is about as far from the old cars as a Lear Jet. Also, how does it actually drive at the limit? That's what a sports car is for. Can you slide it through a corner? four wheel drift? hand brake turn? Handling isn't measured by tooling around town and goosing the throttle now and then. How about giving one of these to Richard Hammons and seeing if he can keep from rolling it down a ravine? :P
The weight ☠️
??? A Cybertruck beat a Porsche 911 while it was towing a 911.
@@graemeglass7566kinda, they rather misrepresented the results
@@jongmassey kinda didn't!
@@graemeglass7566 they did, Elon said it beat in a 1/4 mile, when it was actually just 1/8 mile
@@graemeglass7566 presenting an 1/8mi race as a 1/4mi one is misrepresentation
It’s a from the ground up new car so how do they manage to mess up the dashboard, especially the speedometer?
It’s definitely arrows on the rear and not mini style, union flags.
It’s one reason why I would not consider a mini; those taillights.
This feels a bit like a generic Chinese EV with a well-known badge. The only thing I'm actually curious about is what the little paw-print button does in the back.
I imagine those power doors add a lot of unnecessary weight.
Porsche are certainly not worried
Subjective I suppose - but the MG TF referenced looks appeared absymal to me. This looks neat though. Looks the new Tesla roadster that we are still waiting on. Price will be interesting . The suggested hint on price Chinese always appears to be well below what it ultimately appears as. I saw the BYD seal ended up being same price as the Tesla model 3 long range dual motor version and way above the entry model 3.
The TF is considered to be a rather good looking car even by people who didn't like the car otherwise. I believe it was redesigned by Peter Stevens to look more modern compared to the MG F as we transitioned to the 2000s. What was it you didn't like?
It really isn’t, not even a little bit… Like the fact that you can’t even turn down the fan if you receive a phone call. And know, you newer pushed a car, not really if you think this can compete..😂
I was at the UK launch. An incredible machine.
Heard a rumour that SpaceX is planning to launch the Cyberster...
stop with the "dystopian" nonsense
I wonder if Porsche fans are upset? I mean, it seems like it could be a nightmare for som models of Mazda, Honda, Hyundai and similar, it doesn't strike me as a cheaper alternative to a Porsche exactly.
Favorite moment, "Brembo brakes all around, obviously very important", with a voice that implies he has no clue what that means. Second favorite, the tires it comes with presented an important reason to why it's supposedly possibly the greatest car ever made.
Really funny episode, and the car might be well worth the money, for anyone looking for a better alternative to a Miata.
Possibly the best Elliot episode, so far.
I wouldn't be surprised if Robert could get that range out of it, without trying.
I was interested in this car when they announced it, but I’ve just gone back to ICE following a 30k mile stint with an M3LR, and I’m sooo glad to be back. Best two days of EV ownership? Same as a boat. Depreciation and degradation after 30k miles, 45% and 12% respectively. You can probably live with the former, but the latter is a deal breaker and also muddies the used market.
Best two days?
@@CosmicSeeker69 It’s an old joke. The best two days for a boat owner are the day they buy it and the day that they sell it.