That is where practice comes in so even if your opponent moves differently from the fluidity of what you know.. you are ready for what is coming next.. more practice will make you move with instinct...
I remember when I was 6 and when we went to Badiangan in Iloilo (it's just jungle) to visit my mum's side, and my Lolo a farmer tried to teach me Balintawak, and I didn't take to it much as I was more interested in the Bamboo Cannon an the raw gunpowder fireworks. Now 35yrs later I wish I could of been taught more but only got 4yrs worth of what he knew with him being a Ingkong Tuhon learning that he only had 4 students through his entire life.
It’s in a different video, but he won’t get cut, because part of the technique is to wrap around away from the sharp edge, precisely so you don’t get cut in the process. One of the things I like about this martial art (and the guy teaching it) 😊 Edit: now that I rewatch it, it’s a double edged blade, so yeah, he would probably get cut, if he pulled his arm too early or the guy does. Well, as they say, it’s impossible not to get cut. This disarming technique seems to rely on pure twisting and no pulling, so ideally, the twisting of your arm would loosen his grip and cause him to drop the knife, but in real life, if you’re not fast enough, you would probably get a light cut
Then go and challenge him? You talk like you believe if you see someone else get cut up, and if someone else gets cut up you will still make pussy excuses. Go get in the cage with the lion and take him on. Only after you suffer do you know.
i'm a filipino - most of FMA I see are drills, muscle memory if you will training. When you spar most of those disappears. I've trained in a handful of martial arts, including muay thai, bjj. I stuck with hapkido though the longest.. now that i don't actively train and just gym it up. I only took the basics with me -- Yeah. I do fma movements as well - heck, the whole basis transfered to FMA movements (maybe i should have done boxing instead, but I didn't. Though they synergize). even when you do boxing, all your drills don't 100% work. when to apply them is important. I've been taught so many disarms, throws none of them work as you do it stand alone.. even basic catch and lock.. teaching my son this as well. working with speed etc.. it all fails, then i show him when it could work.. that's the beauty of training.. dynamic.. the fastest way to get there though is MMA - but i'm not into that.
it was used by our ancestors against conquestedores from Spain, they are no match for early Filipino warriors of Cebu. Fast forward, family clans preserved this art in secrecy, time and again deadly clash and death sparring occurred between clan practitioners not of course until this peaceful present time where the art was adopted as our national art heritage.
What if they do this in an actual sparring in which they don't use real weapon. They just do it more aggressive. I doubt they will have the same fluidity in movements as they have during demonstration. I'm not saying that knife defense isn't important. However a lot of these videos I see is not convincing, because I tried it with my friends, without using a real knife of course, and most of it didn't work. If your training partner strongly resist, you can't apply most of the things that you see in these Knife defense Videos. I'm not saying that they are completely useless. My point is, it's not as smooth as you think it will be like what you see in this demonstraion. Of course, you hear a lot from other practitioners that you will get cut in a knife fight, which I agree. The techniques that these people teach is not as effective as it looks. I'm just being honest.
You end up know say 60 offensive moves and all the counters, if the other party knows the same it becomes fully free flowing attacks, defense, counter attacks, defense. Obviously that's advanced and most people wouldn't put the time in to get that level. In simpler terms it's like boxing where both parties know the attack sequences, the counters, head movement and footwork. Ultimately the better trained more aggressive one will win. It's the same just ALOT more complex and convoluted. Let's be real as far as the time/reward ratio boxing or muay Thai will be far more effective 👍
“I tried it with my friends”, “If your training partner resist most of it will not work”. Do you have a proper training with the said art tho? What I’m saying is have a proper training first before concluding anything.
That’s the point. It’s not supposed to. There is no martial art that will magically make you able to deflect every incoming attack like those old Chinese wunxia flicks. The point of this martial art is to teach you how to move, and to teach you not to stop moving. You get hit? You hit back. You get stopped? There’s a way to keep moving through. Those practice exercises are idealizations. Basically just keeping the flow going *on purpose*, for training purposes. The goal is, as he said, not “to flow for the sake of flowing”, but to flow as in to know the natural course your body ought to take when moving. So if you get hit, your body will know the natural, most optimal mechanical movement to take to counterattack. You are right. In real life, it will not be as smooth. In real life, it will be rough, and optimally, you will knock them dead (or just out) in one swift move. From experience, fighting with a random thug will require less than 1% of the stuff taught here. Just wait for them to come and counter quick and hard. It doesn’t take even ten seconds. There’s a reason it ain’t no fun to pick on someone weaker than you. That is why fully mastering even a single technique goes a long way in one’s survival. You could study ten moves but if you can’t do it as naturally as you would catch a ball then you could still get beat up. You could master a single counter and every time you get into some sh\*t, wait (or play keep away until you can) execute the counter. I also agree things shown in demonstrations will likely not be very effective in reality. They’re demos duh. The realm thing is going to be a lot faster, and a lot simpler than that fancy stuff. Even in tournaments, it’s often hit, distance, hit again, try to get the optimal hit in. No one actually tries to do a rush. At least, they didn’t used to? It’s been a long time since I watched tournaments, so maybe things have gotten hotter? I dunno, I’m not a tournament person. Also, note that the techniques being shown here are not actual “techniques” like those from other martial arts, with a dedicated count, form, etc, blah blah blah, but an afterthought. “If you’re going to do it, make sure it’s like this” or “Just don’t do this” What is particularly commendable about this martial art is that it doesn’t try to bind you. The “techniques” are more like guidelines on how you should execute the attack. Like how you do that knife disarming thing. He didn’t mention it here, but in another video, but when you wrap around the knife, you have to do it from behind the blade or you could get cut. Notice in the video the way he wraps it, he’s wrapping with his thumb leading and never lets the sharp edge face his arm. So rather than an ironclad rule, the “technique” or so it is called, is that your arm better not be in the way. I hear that you tried it with your friends (are they martial artists too?). I appreciate the enthusiasm, truly, I do. The interest is what keeps things going. But if you want to examine the feasibility or practicality of the art, I suggest either looking for a better training partner or asking for advice from an experienced practitioner to watch your trial. Self-teaching is one thing, self-analysis is another. There might be things you’re not focusing on or areas that aren’t quite what was meant to be performed, which is why it feels that way. If you [anyone reading this in particular] are interested in martial arts, don’t be afraid to approach someone from the field and ask for tips or practice, even just to try it out. If they’re a good practitioner, they’ll take any criticism you have in stride. I bet they’ve heard a lot and are likely used to it by now. Just be respectful, yeah? Laying it smoothly is a valid technique too! P.S. I like the way you criticized it by the way, very respectful and overall constructive. It’s because you wrote it like this I took the time to write this out. Had it been any other “Oh, this deffo won’t work IRL, smh lol”, I wouldn’t even bother. It’s well spoken (written?) criticisms like yours that engages debate and discussion within communities 🫡 P.P.S. I’m sorry if it’s really long. Like, REALLY SORRY. I try to keep it as short as I can but when I really want to reply I try to follow the 3C: Clear, Concise, and Complete (technically the full version is 7C). And I don’t want any misunderstandings to happen, as it is hard to explain things purely with text over the internet, so yeah. This became a bit wordy… 😅
Excellent advice regarding hand fluidity, weapon movement and accesibility while keeping your main weapon active 😎👍
This is brilliant. Fantastic explanation 👏
That is where practice comes in so even if your opponent moves differently from the fluidity of what you know.. you are ready for what is coming next.. more practice will make you move with instinct...
lmfao at the start it's like he's rapping at 0:03 "he's worrying about my blade as he's losing his" goes perfectly with da beat
Tuhon Apollo is seriously amazing.
Tuhon Apolo is genuinely remarkable. The offensive and counter-offensive techniques are excellent skills to possess.
I may of looked flowing but was really just playing whacka mole...awesome
Applo and Bobby are awesome! The Ladra Brothers 👆🏻 PTK
❤❤
Great work.
Thank you Sir!
I remember when I was 6 and when we went to Badiangan in Iloilo (it's just jungle) to visit my mum's side, and my Lolo a farmer tried to teach me Balintawak, and I didn't take to it much as I was more interested in the Bamboo Cannon an the raw gunpowder fireworks. Now 35yrs later I wish I could of been taught more but only got 4yrs worth of what he knew with him being a Ingkong Tuhon learning that he only had 4 students through his entire life.
The real deal…offense and counter offense. The blade will teach you the mechanics of your body. Bloody brilliant.
Great demonstration, but would I would like to point out that you will have a nice slash on your arm after disarming the knife.
It’s in a different video, but he won’t get cut, because part of the technique is to wrap around away from the sharp edge, precisely so you don’t get cut in the process. One of the things I like about this martial art (and the guy teaching it) 😊
Edit: now that I rewatch it, it’s a double edged blade, so yeah, he would probably get cut, if he pulled his arm too early or the guy does. Well, as they say, it’s impossible not to get cut. This disarming technique seems to rely on pure twisting and no pulling, so ideally, the twisting of your arm would loosen his grip and cause him to drop the knife, but in real life, if you’re not fast enough, you would probably get a light cut
Is there an online training platform? Great information and very informative! Thank you!
Mind blown 😮
Interesting i like duality
👏👏👏
Dude got cut like 10 times
we can safely say, not one Hollywood movie has an Ancient Filipino warrior show his real potential
i tell you, i saw a balut guy on his bicycle borrow my stick and handle it like a trained assassin
When I see these techniques work in a realistic knife, sparring session, I will believe they work💥❗️👀
Then go and challenge him?
You talk like you believe if you see someone else get cut up, and if someone else gets cut up you will still make pussy excuses.
Go get in the cage with the lion and take him on. Only after you suffer do you know.
i'm a filipino - most of FMA I see are drills, muscle memory if you will training. When you spar most of those disappears. I've trained in a handful of martial arts, including muay thai, bjj. I stuck with hapkido though the longest.. now that i don't actively train and just gym it up. I only took the basics with me -- Yeah. I do fma movements as well - heck, the whole basis transfered to FMA movements (maybe i should have done boxing instead, but I didn't. Though they synergize).
even when you do boxing, all your drills don't 100% work.
when to apply them is important. I've been taught so many disarms, throws none of them work as you do it stand alone.. even basic catch and lock.. teaching my son this as well. working with speed etc.. it all fails, then i show him when it could work..
that's the beauty of training.. dynamic.. the fastest way to get there though is MMA - but i'm not into that.
it was used by our ancestors against conquestedores from Spain, they are no match for early Filipino warriors of Cebu. Fast forward, family clans preserved this art in secrecy, time and again deadly clash and death sparring occurred between clan practitioners not of course until this peaceful present time where the art was adopted as our national art heritage.
@@aruzcaldo1633 dos por mi - make sure there's eggs on it ok and calamansi!!!
@@JojieCerteza there's boxing in FMA, you just have to keep working with it.
Great concept, though.
There are those with theories and those who win fights.
Snake disarm to a blade?
Do you give training
I would love to see him take on the knife attacker who stabbed the social activist with his gf at the bus stop at 4am, just recently in the news.
puro naman kalokohan turo master eh😅
Too much information for meaningless techniques.
Wanna try them?
What if they do this in an actual sparring in which they don't use real weapon. They just do it more aggressive. I doubt they will have the same fluidity in movements as they have during demonstration. I'm not saying that knife defense isn't important. However a lot of these videos I see is not convincing, because I tried it with my friends, without using a real knife of course, and most of it didn't work. If your training partner strongly resist, you can't apply most of the things that you see in these Knife defense Videos. I'm not saying that they are completely useless. My point is, it's not as smooth as you think it will be like what you see in this demonstraion. Of course, you hear a lot from other practitioners that you will get cut in a knife fight, which I agree. The techniques that these people teach is not as effective as it looks. I'm just being honest.
You end up know say 60 offensive moves and all the counters, if the other party knows the same it becomes fully free flowing attacks, defense, counter attacks, defense. Obviously that's advanced and most people wouldn't put the time in to get that level.
In simpler terms it's like boxing where both parties know the attack sequences, the counters, head movement and footwork. Ultimately the better trained more aggressive one will win. It's the same just ALOT more complex and convoluted. Let's be real as far as the time/reward ratio boxing or muay Thai will be far more effective 👍
“I tried it with my friends”, “If your training partner resist most of it will not work”. Do you have a proper training with the said art tho? What I’m saying is have a proper training first before concluding anything.
Maybe you should go and try to confifm it with them
That’s the point. It’s not supposed to. There is no martial art that will magically make you able to deflect every incoming attack like those old Chinese wunxia flicks. The point of this martial art is to teach you how to move, and to teach you not to stop moving. You get hit? You hit back. You get stopped? There’s a way to keep moving through. Those practice exercises are idealizations. Basically just keeping the flow going *on purpose*, for training purposes. The goal is, as he said, not “to flow for the sake of flowing”, but to flow as in to know the natural course your body ought to take when moving. So if you get hit, your body will know the natural, most optimal mechanical movement to take to counterattack.
You are right.
In real life, it will not be as smooth.
In real life, it will be rough, and optimally, you will knock them dead (or just out) in one swift move.
From experience, fighting with a random thug will require less than 1% of the stuff taught here. Just wait for them to come and counter quick and hard. It doesn’t take even ten seconds. There’s a reason it ain’t no fun to pick on someone weaker than you.
That is why fully mastering even a single technique goes a long way in one’s survival. You could study ten moves but if you can’t do it as naturally as you would catch a ball then you could still get beat up.
You could master a single counter and every time you get into some sh\*t, wait (or play keep away until you can) execute the counter.
I also agree things shown in demonstrations will likely not be very effective in reality. They’re demos duh. The realm thing is going to be a lot faster, and a lot simpler than that fancy stuff. Even in tournaments, it’s often hit, distance, hit again, try to get the optimal hit in. No one actually tries to do a rush. At least, they didn’t used to? It’s been a long time since I watched tournaments, so maybe things have gotten hotter? I dunno, I’m not a tournament person.
Also, note that the techniques being shown here are not actual “techniques” like those from other martial arts, with a dedicated count, form, etc, blah blah blah, but an afterthought. “If you’re going to do it, make sure it’s like this” or “Just don’t do this”
What is particularly commendable about this martial art is that it doesn’t try to bind you. The “techniques” are more like guidelines on how you should execute the attack. Like how you do that knife disarming thing. He didn’t mention it here, but in another video, but when you wrap around the knife, you have to do it from behind the blade or you could get cut. Notice in the video the way he wraps it, he’s wrapping with his thumb leading and never lets the sharp edge face his arm. So rather than an ironclad rule, the “technique” or so it is called, is that your arm better not be in the way.
I hear that you tried it with your friends (are they martial artists too?). I appreciate the enthusiasm, truly, I do. The interest is what keeps things going.
But if you want to examine the feasibility or practicality of the art, I suggest either looking for a better training partner or asking for advice from an experienced practitioner to watch your trial.
Self-teaching is one thing, self-analysis is another. There might be things you’re not focusing on or areas that aren’t quite what was meant to be performed, which is why it feels that way.
If you [anyone reading this in particular] are interested in martial arts, don’t be afraid to approach someone from the field and ask for tips or practice, even just to try it out. If they’re a good practitioner, they’ll take any criticism you have in stride. I bet they’ve heard a lot and are likely used to it by now. Just be respectful, yeah? Laying it smoothly is a valid technique too!
P.S. I like the way you criticized it by the way, very respectful and overall constructive. It’s because you wrote it like this I took the time to write this out. Had it been any other “Oh, this deffo won’t work IRL, smh lol”, I wouldn’t even bother. It’s well spoken (written?) criticisms like yours that engages debate and discussion within communities 🫡
P.P.S. I’m sorry if it’s really long. Like, REALLY SORRY. I try to keep it as short as I can but when I really want to reply I try to follow the 3C: Clear, Concise, and Complete (technically the full version is 7C). And I don’t want any misunderstandings to happen, as it is hard to explain things purely with text over the internet, so yeah. This became a bit wordy… 😅
Too much information for meaningless techniques.