I live in Capitan, my ancestors are spread throughout Lincoln County. Billy fathered a daughter with a distant cousin of mine in Picacho, NM, my family has one of his saddles, holster, rifle scabbard, bed roll, hat, arrow heads he collected and many more items that belonged to him from that era. We are all getting long in the tooth and thinking about donating items to a museum.
That's quite a collection of American history and heritage, special no doubt and unique in that it's a group of personal items that likely would have seen a lot of use. A museum would be able to care for them well. If you'd ever be interested in sharing some photos of them with us, we'd love to be able to look at the leather craft styles and materials used. It could be exciting to try and trace the items to local leather crafters and saddlemakers of the time, and add a bit to the heritage. Even if not, it's exciting to hear those items exist! And that you get to enjoy them. Thanks for sharing.
@@internationalleatherclub at one time we all took an oath to never share anything with anybody. We believe everybody has skeletons in their closet and we should just let sleeping dogs lie. The thing is those of us who really know don’t have long left on earth. The younger generation of our family doesn’t care and would only be in it for any money they could make off of Billy and then there would be a legal battle over any proceeds. My mother inherited some photos of Billy and others and her living brothers have other items also. There is so much to this story that people don’t realize and never will know. I’ve said too much already. Thank you.
@@_DB.COOPER I understand and can appreciate the family element to it all, especially given the popularity of Billy. Thank you for your story, and if you ever feel the time is right to share, we'd love to help preserve leather-related stories and heritage, reach out anytime: hi@internationalleatherclub.com Wishing you and your family very well.
If you can find one. Get a copy of -Packing Iron’ an amazing book full of authentic Old West Holsters,Belts and scabbards featuring information on the Makers.
Thank you for the recommendation - that looks ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! I hadn't heard of it, and am now very excited 😃 I'll keep an eye on eBay and see if I can get one, looks like an investment, both in cost, though ultimately in great knowledge.
I make historical gun leather, and Packing Iron is the leather workers bible. I use the originals in the photos to create my own leather pattersn for historical reenactors.
@@glennmeek2718 I've been able to see some photos from online listings for it for sale, it looks incredibly-well researched and the author quite experienced in the field. Do you have items online or a website? We'd love to check out your work
I read in an English news paper, back in the 1980s At a auction house in Lewis Sussex, for sale, Two revolvers (and I think holsters) once belonging to Jesse James. I remember thinking at the time, I wonder how the hell, did they end up in Sussex England?!
It's incredible where some things can end up! Like that is an interesting piece of history and a story all its own. I believe some copies of the Declaration of Independence printed broadsides ended up in England and Europe, it must have been quite a journey!
I once new a man back in the 1960s who had an antique shop and in the window a telescope once belonging to Lord Nelson, as soon as he sold it , he would replace it with another one from out the back of his shop (true story, fake telescope)
Some antiques dealers, especially before the internet, were a little less than upfront! 😃 It's great there's more access to research tools today, to help build provenance, and even moreso, help others authenticate it. I wonder roughly what % of significant historical items are just carefully-storied replicas.
My great great grandfather was one of Quantrill's raiders, he's buried over in independence not far from Frank James and his wife, it's only cool history if you're not a damn Jayhawker.
@@jasonashley4579 Your mention intrigued me to read more about that area and wow, there was a lot going on there between different groups, with ties to some big historical moments. You must have some incredible family stories.
Maybe, there's a lot of caves around here that Jesse and Frank along with their gang used for hideouts, Jesse's old house on Troost still stands and so does a bank they robbed over in Liberty, they shot and killed a college kid who was just crossing the street right there by William Jewel.
@@jasonashley4579 I recall reading some things about ties to Meramec caverns, and can only imagine the stashes they had and might still have undiscovered. The Liberty robbery also an indicator how serious they took things. It's interesting how history gives us a look into what happened, while also opening the door to explore so much more around it. Especially the timeless draw of buried treasure. There has to be some out there 😃
Interesting commentary, but the photos don't match the narrative!...Not sure, but I doubt that Jesse was ever in Jackson Hole,, OR Deadwood! Just sayin'!
Very observant, and accurate eye! And I would agree 😃sometimes visuals are used to help set a tone, would love to have access to detailed historic images for everything.
You pronounced Schofield wrong ! You clearly are not a gun guy! By the way.. the C is not silent! The H is, slow one! The only reason I'm being mean is Because, there's too many people making videos about things they know nothing about nowadays! It's pathetic!
Hey! We always welcome feedback, thanks for your thoughts. And great too, folks might learn something differently when they were taught, and there's more than meets the eye. Group discussions can help in a number of ways, great stuff.
Wow. It’s amazing how emotionally compromised someone can get from a simple video. Can you imagine this guy at a restaurant when they tell him it’ll be five more minutes before his table is ready? lol
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I live in Capitan, my ancestors are spread throughout Lincoln County. Billy fathered a daughter with a distant cousin of mine in Picacho, NM, my family has one of his saddles, holster, rifle scabbard, bed roll, hat, arrow heads he collected and many more items that belonged to him from that era. We are all getting long in the tooth and thinking about donating items to a museum.
That's quite a collection of American history and heritage, special no doubt and unique in that it's a group of personal items that likely would have seen a lot of use.
A museum would be able to care for them well. If you'd ever be interested in sharing some photos of them with us, we'd love to be able to look at the leather craft styles and materials used.
It could be exciting to try and trace the items to local leather crafters and saddlemakers of the time, and add a bit to the heritage.
Even if not, it's exciting to hear those items exist! And that you get to enjoy them. Thanks for sharing.
@@internationalleatherclub at one time we all took an oath to never share anything with anybody. We believe everybody has skeletons in their closet and we should just let sleeping dogs lie. The thing is those of us who really know don’t have long left on earth. The younger generation of our family doesn’t care and would only be in it for any money they could make off of Billy and then there would be a legal battle over any proceeds. My mother inherited some photos of Billy and others and her living brothers have other items also. There is so much to this story that people don’t realize and never will know. I’ve said too much already. Thank you.
@@_DB.COOPER I understand and can appreciate the family element to it all, especially given the popularity of Billy.
Thank you for your story, and if you ever feel the time is right to share, we'd love to help preserve leather-related stories and heritage, reach out anytime: hi@internationalleatherclub.com
Wishing you and your family very well.
If you can find one. Get a copy of -Packing Iron’ an amazing book full of authentic Old West Holsters,Belts and scabbards featuring information on the Makers.
Thank you for the recommendation - that looks ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! I hadn't heard of it, and am now very excited 😃 I'll keep an eye on eBay and see if I can get one, looks like an investment, both in cost, though ultimately in great knowledge.
I make historical gun leather, and Packing Iron is the leather workers bible. I use the originals in the photos to create my own leather pattersn for historical reenactors.
@@glennmeek2718 I've been able to see some photos from online listings for it for sale, it looks incredibly-well researched and the author quite experienced in the field.
Do you have items online or a website? We'd love to check out your work
I read in an English news paper, back in the 1980s At a auction house in Lewis Sussex, for sale, Two revolvers (and I think holsters) once belonging to Jesse James. I remember thinking at the time, I wonder how the hell, did they end up in Sussex England?!
It's incredible where some things can end up! Like that is an interesting piece of history and a story all its own.
I believe some copies of the Declaration of Independence printed broadsides ended up in England and Europe, it must have been quite a journey!
I once new a man back in the 1960s who had an antique shop and in the window a telescope once belonging to Lord Nelson, as soon as he sold it , he would replace it with another one from out the back of his shop (true story, fake telescope)
Some antiques dealers, especially before the internet, were a little less than upfront!
😃
It's great there's more access to research tools today, to help build provenance, and even moreso, help others authenticate it.
I wonder roughly what % of significant historical items are just carefully-storied replicas.
Hey, how about you show some of the performance qualities?
I'd have to ask Jesse if we could borrow it 😃 We're always up for testing!
"And to think... it was under the sofa cushion all this time!"
Right??? Sometimes in the easiest places 😃
Funny you show a side holster saying it was Jesse's when he was known to use a shoulder rig
Please do share more, we'd love to learn what knowledge you've got! A group learning together can be excellent
@@internationalleatherclub his brother Frank owned a mens clothing store in Kalamazoo, Michigan
@@donaldballman2825 Very cool
He's buried just up the road from me.
You're around some cool history!
My great great grandfather was one of Quantrill's raiders, he's buried over in independence not far from Frank James and his wife, it's only cool history if you're not a damn Jayhawker.
@@jasonashley4579 Your mention intrigued me to read more about that area and wow, there was a lot going on there between different groups, with ties to some big historical moments.
You must have some incredible family stories.
Maybe, there's a lot of caves around here that Jesse and Frank along with their gang used for hideouts, Jesse's old house on Troost still stands and so does a bank they robbed over in Liberty, they shot and killed a college kid who was just crossing the street right there by William Jewel.
@@jasonashley4579 I recall reading some things about ties to Meramec caverns, and can only imagine the stashes they had and might still have undiscovered.
The Liberty robbery also an indicator how serious they took things. It's interesting how history gives us a look into what happened, while also opening the door to explore so much more around it.
Especially the timeless draw of buried treasure. There has to be some out there
😃
They ain't his damn holster.
Possibly not! We need to solve the mystery 😃
Interesting commentary, but the photos don't match the narrative!...Not sure, but I doubt that Jesse was ever in Jackson Hole,, OR Deadwood!
Just sayin'!
Very observant, and accurate eye! And I would agree 😃sometimes visuals are used to help set a tone, would love to have access to detailed historic images for everything.
You pronounced Schofield wrong !
You clearly are not a gun guy!
By the way.. the C is not silent!
The H is, slow one!
The only reason I'm being mean is
Because, there's too many people making videos about things they know nothing about nowadays!
It's pathetic!
Hey! We always welcome feedback, thanks for your thoughts. And great too, folks might learn something differently when they were taught, and there's more than meets the eye.
Group discussions can help in a number of ways, great stuff.
Wow. It’s amazing how emotionally compromised someone can get from a simple video. Can you imagine this guy at a restaurant when they tell him it’ll be five more minutes before his table is ready? lol
@@BrokenBarBox I know a bunch of people that call "soda", "pop", and a bunch that call "pop", "soda" - it keeps the world interesting 😃
Wow.... take a zanax, dude.