Nice demonstration. I would do the side pieces differently. Run the 2x4 on a jointer (if you have one). Raise the cutter to the desired depth. Run it until it gets to the point where you want it to go out. Then do the other side. Cut it on the table saw to the width you need and then that's it.
Nothing I hate worse than building frames. But with this style of beehive it's a must. Cool channel and content 👍. I think your doing well. I enjoyed the voiceover verses the shop sounds. I get enough of that lol... will be watching all of your content. How do you plan to seal these hives. Paint stain nothing lol... Thanks again hello from Kentucky mountains USA
We have painted the hives externally with a latex exterior primer and will most likely just go with two coats of this and the tops will have metal flashing over them. You are the second person to ask, so we will post a quick finished product tour.
Nice videos. I have also built three of these hives and frames. I was wondering if you have any ideas for top feeders? I just took out one frame so the bees could access the top area and put in my feeder from the apimaye hive leaving a little space between the frames so they could get up into it. Do you have any other ideas?
I would love to see your plans or dimensions for the drill jig. I'm about to have to build a little more than 100 to 160 of these frames and that would be much better than the "jig" Dr. Leo provides with his plans. Thank you!
@@BeldingHillFarms hope you don't mind, just did the same! we're in the middle of building our 3 Dr Leo hives from his plans and haven't started on the frames....any help would be most appreciated, another brand new beekeeper here
@@BeldingHillFarms thank you! yes, just viewed it "after" I emailed you :-) appreciate all you do to share with other newbie beekeepers... or in this case, wannabe beekeepers... in the middle of building our boxes.
Since I didn't have a router at the time, I made my sidebars by making a jig for my table saw and used the dado blade. It is similar to a sled except mine is fixed in place. It would work just fine if the jig slides as well. Worked perfect and was safe because the blade stays below the jig and and only the sidebar will fit into the slot. I think the easiest way would be to use a jointer if it will adjust enough to make the side bars.
If you have a jointer raise the blade up and run the 2x4 flat ways until you get the top end that you want. Turn it over and do the same thing on the other side. Use the table saw and cut the side pieces to width. Done. no router table needed.
Could you please let me know where you bought those tiny metal grommets? Also, it is true that the queen won't lay on wire when it's treaded on the frames side to side vs top to bottom?
Thanks for the detailed video, ive been planning on building a layens style hive box, do you see any issue on wiring the frames horizontally from side to side rather than from top to bottom? If you grove the top bar you can install a wood strip and wax it to start the bees comb off straight and the wire wont be in the way.
Great job! Quick question: Dr. Leo's hives come with edge protectors. I've already "sealed painted" it 2x and ave allowed it to completely dry; however, as I'm putting in the first edge protector, I'm noticing the wood crack. In drilling screws into other items such as the lid or gate discs, I did not notice any wood cracking. Any advice? Proceed without worry or stop adding on the edge protector?
Thanks for watching and if you are getting cracking, you can simply pre-drill the holes with an undersized drill bit before putting in the screws. That will relieve the pressure that is most likely causing the splitting. Just play with the drill size until you are happy, but don’t go more than half the diameter of your screws or they won’t have enough holding power.
Putting in that wire it might help to ream that rough end slightly with a bigger nail to keep it from catching on you. You could even get fancy and mount that nail into a small handle to make it easier. Anything to make it less tedious! :)
I found that it was easiest to put 1 on the nail and hammer the nail and grommet in place. Then push the nail up from the bottom, lift it out, and go to the next. This is far easier on my fingers because pushing those little things into the wood wear your hands out. If there is a way to SHOOT those grommets into the holes that would be best! :)
Hello, I have Langstroth Deep hives, but really like this deeper frame. Essentially I want to attempt to connect a shallow and a deep frame together and in shallow and deep box? Do you think this could work?
Honestly I'm not sure. I have seen where people have made Layens frames that hold deep and shallow frames sepatately, but not sure of combining. There are also designs on Dr. Leo's site for a horizontal hive built specifically to hold deep Langstoth frames. Check out his site at www.horizontalhive.com
I can’t remember because I did it 2-3 hours at a time, but I believe it was about 10-12 hours. Maybe less. Just cut all of the pieces in mass production and absolutely build the frame jig (separate video on our channel). Also, if you need the information about the jig I used to drill the holes in the frames, let me know.
Turns out the foundations are undesirable for bees because sometimes they will make a hole in the frame to let air through but if there is a foundation there they cannot. I just learned that after installing a new box with foundations, I think from the same guy you are building your boxes off of.
No, but I just figure when I get there, I will build something to do it. That's udually how I do things. Lol. There are commercial spinners for Layens frames, but the normal Langstroth spinners won't work
Hello again my friend. Would you bee willing to build ten Layen Frames for me. They are modified being 19" wide x 15.5" long. I need to hire someone. I'm happy to pay you for everything> Let m eknow
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Thankyou brother
Thanks for the video!
Nice demonstration. I would do the side pieces differently. Run the 2x4 on a jointer (if you have one). Raise the cutter to the desired depth. Run it until it gets to the point where you want it to go out. Then do the other side.
Cut it on the table saw to the width you need and then that's it.
Hi! Great video! I love ur drilling jig…would u mind sharing?
Nothing I hate worse than building frames. But with this style of beehive it's a must. Cool channel and content 👍. I think your doing well. I enjoyed the voiceover verses the shop sounds. I get enough of that lol... will be watching all of your content. How do you plan to seal these hives. Paint stain nothing lol... Thanks again hello from Kentucky mountains USA
We have painted the hives externally with a latex exterior primer and will most likely just go with two coats of this and the tops will have metal flashing over them. You are the second person to ask, so we will post a quick finished product tour.
@@BeldingHillFarms Thanks I will be watching 👍👍
Nice videos. I have also built three of these hives and frames. I was wondering if you have any ideas for top feeders? I just took out one frame so the bees could access the top area and put in my feeder from the apimaye hive leaving a little space between the frames so they could get up into it. Do you have any other ideas?
Go to Dr. Leo’s site, www.horizontalhive.com and go to the store tab and he sells feeders for Layens hives
very nice video... could you share your jig plans?
Yes I certainly will. Send me an email (beldinghillfarms@gmail.com) or a message to our Facebook page
I would love to see your plans or dimensions for the drill jig. I'm about to have to build a little more than 100 to 160 of these frames and that would be much better than the "jig" Dr. Leo provides with his plans. Thank you!
You are the second person that asked. I am happy to share. Send a message to our Belding Hill Farms Facebook page and I will send you pics
@@BeldingHillFarms hope you don't mind, just did the same! we're in the middle of building our 3 Dr Leo hives from his plans and haven't started on the frames....any help would be most appreciated, another brand new beekeeper here
Watch my other videos on building frames and the jig and if you want details of my drilling jig, just email us.
@@BeldingHillFarms thank you! yes, just viewed it "after" I emailed you :-) appreciate all you do to share with other newbie beekeepers... or in this case, wannabe beekeepers... in the middle of building our boxes.
Awesome thank you so much for this video. I planned on building my own frames. Did you think you saved a lot of money as opposed to buying them?
Truthfully, likely not, but I love the satisfaction that comes from doing things all with your own two hands
Since I didn't have a router at the time, I made my sidebars by making a jig for my table saw and used the dado blade. It is similar to a sled except mine is fixed in place. It would work just fine if the jig slides as well. Worked perfect and was safe because the blade stays below the jig and and only the sidebar will fit into the slot. I think the easiest way would be to use a jointer if it will adjust enough to make the side bars.
Awesome. More than one way to skin a cat! Lol
If you have a jointer raise the blade up and run the 2x4 flat ways until you get the top end that you want. Turn it over and do the same thing on the other side. Use the table saw and cut the side pieces to width. Done. no router table needed.
Could you please let me know where you bought those tiny metal grommets? Also, it is true that the queen won't lay on wire when it's treaded on the frames side to side vs top to bottom?
I got them from Dancing Bee Bee Supplies from Ontario. I never heard of the queen not laying on horizontal wired frames.
Thanks for the detailed video, ive been planning on building a layens style hive box, do you see any issue on wiring the frames horizontally from side to side rather than from top to bottom? If you grove the top bar you can install a wood strip and wax it to start the bees comb off straight and the wire wont be in the way.
I think that would work, but you might have to stiffen the joints of the frames.
Great job! Quick question: Dr. Leo's hives come with edge protectors. I've already "sealed painted" it 2x and ave allowed it to completely dry; however, as I'm putting in the first edge protector, I'm noticing the wood crack. In drilling screws into other items such as the lid or gate discs, I did not notice any wood cracking. Any advice? Proceed without worry or stop adding on the edge protector?
Thanks for watching and if you are getting cracking, you can simply pre-drill the holes with an undersized drill bit before putting in the screws. That will relieve the pressure that is most likely causing the splitting. Just play with the drill size until you are happy, but don’t go more than half the diameter of your screws or they won’t have enough holding power.
Putting in that wire it might help to ream that rough end slightly with a bigger nail to keep it from catching on you. You could even get fancy and mount that nail into a small handle to make it easier. Anything to make it less tedious! :)
I agree, anything to make it less tedious is better. Thanks
I found that it was easiest to put 1 on the nail and hammer the nail and grommet in place. Then push the nail up from the bottom, lift it out, and go to the next. This is far easier on my fingers because pushing those little things into the wood wear your hands out. If there is a way to SHOOT those grommets into the holes that would be best! :)
I did the same
Would you please tell me what size grommets those are and where did you get them.......
I’m honestly not sure of the size, but I got them at Dancing Bee Supplies in Ontario, Canada
@@BeldingHillFarms thanks
Very welcome
Hello, I have Langstroth Deep hives, but really like this deeper frame. Essentially I want to attempt to connect a shallow and a deep frame together and in shallow and deep box? Do you think this could work?
Honestly I'm not sure. I have seen where people have made Layens frames that hold deep and shallow frames sepatately, but not sure of combining. There are also designs on Dr. Leo's site for a horizontal hive built specifically to hold deep Langstoth frames. Check out his site at www.horizontalhive.com
Great video
Do you have a video on how to harvest the honey from the larger frames do you have custom gear?
Not yet!
How long did it take you to just cut and build the 135 frames (not counting the wiring)?
I can’t remember because I did it 2-3 hours at a time, but I believe it was about 10-12 hours. Maybe less. Just cut all of the pieces in mass production and absolutely build the frame jig (separate video on our channel). Also, if you need the information about the jig I used to drill the holes in the frames, let me know.
Can you tell me where you were able to pick up these small grommets? and what they are made from? Thx
I got them from a bee supply store and they are made of brass.
www.amazon.com/Walfront-1000pcs-Beehive-Threading-Beekeeping/dp/B07FDCLGR9/ref=asc_df_B07FDCLGR9/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309858491514&hvpos&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1162656857188050039&hvpone&hvptwo&hvqmt&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl&hvlocint&hvlocphy=9028372&hvtargid=pla-612808683257&psc=1
Was that a staple gun or small nail gun and what size did you use
It was a staple gun, but I can’t remember the size. Thinking 18 gauge 1” long
Just so you know Bee Boy Bill has a nice setup with the table saw and a jig that I used and it seemed to go pretty nicely.
I’ll have to check that out, thanks
Horizontal hive plans.
They can be found free on Dr. Leo’s website. Www.horizontalhive.com
Where did you get the grommets and what size are they?
He answered it in previous comments
@@ledfootdude thanks for the helpful reply.
Turns out the foundations are undesirable for bees because sometimes they will make a hole in the frame to let air through but if there is a foundation there they cannot. I just learned that after installing a new box with foundations, I think from the same guy you are building your boxes off of.
I saw that too
Can you spin those frames in a conventional extractor?
No, but I just figure when I get there, I will build something to do it. That's udually how I do things. Lol. There are commercial spinners for Layens frames, but the normal Langstroth spinners won't work
@@BeldingHillFarms Good to know. - thx.
They make extractors that take both langstroph and layens frames...just not real common in the US.
Agreed
What are the dimensions of the frame
Hello again my friend. Would you bee willing to build ten Layen Frames for me. They are modified being 19" wide x 15.5" long. I need to hire someone. I'm happy to pay you for everything> Let m eknow
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