Joe Justice: Elon Musk has a 1,000 YEAR VISION for Tesla and SpaceX!! And so much more!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today, I had the great fortune to speak with Joe Justice, Agile Master, CEO of Wikispeed, former Tesla employee, author of Scrum Master, and so much more! We spoke of many many things (see the Table of Contents for a more complete list), including: Elon has a thousand year vision for SpaceX, Tesla and Neuralink! 20 minute changes at Tesla, explore/exploit self-optimization at Tesla, doing social good at work, the mind/body connection, and loving yourself and your employees, and how cellular production at Tesla leads to a never ending ramp!
Needless to say, Joe was one of the most fascinating people I've ever spoken with, but beyond that, Joe's enthusiasm, generosity and kindness is astounding and contagious. Join us as 'we speak of many things, Techno Kings'!
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Contents:
Introduction: 0:00
TedX and Tesla in 2010: 1:13
Mind/Body Philosophy: 5:55
Elon Musk's 1,000 year vision: 9:53
Doing Social Good: 13:01
Growing up with a disability: 15:09
Tesla is a 100k person 'flat' startup: 20:17
No meetings and Twitter: 23:31
The Explore/Exploit Self Optimization Paradigm: 24:31
Cellular Production: 28:28
The Never Ending Ramp: 30:00
You have 20 Minutes to make a change!: 32:15
The Rapid Design Philosophy: 34:48
How AI/ML allows self-organization: 41:13
Starship's AI-based welding machine: 47:46
Tesla and Reward Systems: 50:49
Tesla is Luxurious--and Brutally Primitive: 51:37
What would you change at Tesla: 57:30
Are Tesla and SpaceX what they are because Musk is on the spectrum: 1:03:50
What is consciousness & the Evolution of Humans: 1:07:54
Musk, Radical Revolutions, and PR Genius: 1:17:23
Passion and Human Learning Capacity: 1:19:03
Speed, Innovation, Love and Beauty: 1:24:24
Conclusion: 1:28:30
Joe Justice: Elon Musk has a 1,000 YEAR VISION for Tesla, Neuralink and SpaceX!! And so much more! - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The more i watch Joe, the more I feel i understand him and respect him! Great conversation!
Really interesting interview - amazing insights and revelations about how both you and Joe Justice think - these are the best kinds of interviews - great work!
What a surprisingly deep and thought-provoking interview! Really put Joe in a different light.
Love this piece of interview! Interesting for us to learn through you experts experience and sharing without any reservations. Thanks 🙏
Simply … Wow!
This interview exposed the depth & breadth of Joe Justice’s holistic thinking beyond Tesla. Much respect to Joe (and yourself) for a thoroughly engaging interview and reveal.👊🏿
I had no idea who Joe Justice was. But this interview is mind-blowing and makes me realize I have wasted my life. Really. I work for NASA. Big deal. His insight into how Tesla operates makes me want to go to work for Tesla even though I'm 73 years old!
Home Run!!! I am a lean software engineer and cloud native person. My mind is blown. Humbled. Great interview and enlightenment. Thx
I love both of these people, what marvelous human beings. The kindness and humility is unbelievable, not to mention the knowledge they share. Thank you so much for being in the world. Much love from France! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤🤍
What a great opportunity to hear John and Joe talk about some deep subjects and especially what and how Elon thinks! Thank you!
Great interview. That Joe guy is really worth listening to. I've already invested few hours of my life into listening to this guy and it's definitely worth it
The algo has been recommending this video under pretty much every one of the last twenty videos I've watched. Finally found the time to watch and it did not disappoint! I may have to watch a second time.
Thank you both for your insight and I hope you do get to sit down together for coffee and a catch up soon. Don't leave it too late.
The most pleasure I ever had at my limited work experience was the two times I did something no one asked me to do. The result was a significant improvement of the product. The first time, I just did it and didn't tell anyone. They just had to witness the result. The second time, it was a pain to convince the boss, and he was so pleased when I did it because he also used that product.
The current world of management is mad.
Joe is such a nice, cool guy. Very good energy
Your best episode ever bar none. Hope you can chat with Joe again on more wide ranging subjects.
You guys are both phenomenal! How exciting and what a pleasure to hear your conversation.
Hardly surprising that a man who has dedicated himself to making life multiplanetary should have a 1000-year plan for his company. A real inspiration.
Well, here's the thing. The set of people throughout history, who have had 1000-year visions for any kind of organization is...kind of iffy and kooky at best and downright evil at worst!
Now there's a thought! how about we just remain in our parents' basement, play video games all day long, and pass judgement on people who get things done?
@@glencecil293 Now here's a thought. I've been called a "Tesla Fanboy." I have a Model 3 with the v10 beta FSD. (Fully paid, not subscription.) I'm also a literal "Tesla Millionaire." I also work at a Silicon Valley series C startup. So, one thing I find worse than people who pass judgement, are people who pass snap judgements on people on insufficient data who wind up in a counterfactual position. Actually, there's nothing worse about people who pass justified judgements. It's those snap judgement folks I don't care for. Isn't that the old definition of "prejudice?" The etymology is literally to pre-judge. To judge too soon. To judge without the requisite facts.
@@stcredzero What's worse is a completely random third party who thinks you're both assholes and posting on TH-cam comments is a monumental waste of time and tantamount to deliberately shortening your life! And yet here I am actually doing it myself! And I'm in my sixties!! Holy crap!!!
Guess wisdom doesn't always come with age.
Great content gents. It’s good to see there is a shot at a productive, effective society by more effective use of our time and our efforts. Presenteeism in the work environment is the most insidious waste of resource.
Loved that analogy "Musk plays the long game like a Tree Ent". Nice LoTR reference. 👍🏻
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Keep up the great work, Doc! Oh, and First!
Amazing and can’t wait for round 2!
You are the master of great interviews/conversations.
Thanks
Bob
Love this guy. Thanks for hosting.
Great discussion, John (and Joe). Regarding the time taken for gym or surfing workouts, almost all knotty problems I’ve had to solve remained elusive until I engaged in some mindless activity, like swimming, cycling, or running. Training for triathlons was essential to any success I’ve been lucky enough to experience.
Very thankful for this interview!
Fantastic conversation! Almost didn't watch since I'd seen a couple other interviews with Joe, but definitely worth the time as you went into lots of interesting topics others hadn't.
Here's a perspective about labor. There is a view of employees in 2 tiers, those that create the plan and those that execute the plan. People that create the plan can also execute the plan, but frequently companies don't view the employees who execute the plan as having any creative value. Some worker bees never give their work a second thought and are happy to execute the plan. But if employees who have ideas aren't allowed to contribute, then it is a broken work environment. Every idea isn't a good one, regardless of who had it. The boss isn't always right, and neither is the loudest voice. A truly productive work environment is the work environment where people understand the basic principles of purpose and how their work this minute fits in with the purpose of their work.
The best teams I've had the privilege to lead were those that had the highest percentage of people that connected with our purpose. People can feel when it's time to put your head down and work, and will do so as long as they know there will be a time where they can speak up and share their ideas.
+1; well said.
Such wisdom. At first glance I would definitely be a happy worker bee with your guidance.
My problem is no idea listens to me .
When someone "solves" a problem I mention that I said that an hour ago .
Everyone acknowledged that .
Next meeting sane problem.
It's best to turn me loose to do what I do .
No matter how I explain what I want to do .
No one understands.
Now retired, but that's what happens in say group I've been in
@@tomrobertson3236 I was on a lot of teams before I started leading teams. I have seen what you're talking about. It takes time, trust, and communication to fix the issues you're talking about.
Wow, amazing. So many cool nuggets. Like the 'Experiment all you want. But show value in 20 minutes.' Is crazy but very thought-provoking.
john and joe.... thank you thank you... your best episode ever. dave mallery
Excellent interview and discussion. Great job!
Excellent discussion.. Watching it again. One part I really enjoyed was "What is consciousness & the Evolution of Humans". Thanks,
One of the best interviews I’ve seen, really enjoyed it!
Great interview, loved it.
Loved this conversation.
Thanks
Seriously great insights from this interview !
I could listen to you two for days
excellent content, John! Thanks. Joe is a pleasure, looking forward to you two keeping this up.
Wonderful interview. Tesla sounds like a great place to work.
THANKS4GIVING:
Mr. Joe Justice:
One of your last statements about people knowing all the nuances about sports. I have seen this many times in sports and other subjects. To me it’s a serious waste of grey matter. It is far more important to create and develop concepts and processes that can be utilized as tools our descendent need to survive, on earth and beyond.
Wow! Wonderful conversation and so informative. Thank you both!
That was really interesting. Thank you Doc and thank you very much Joe.
Wow-what an amazing interview, thank you, John, thank you, Joe 👍😊
Hats off to John and Joe. 🤩 👍
It's -16C here in Montreal as I watch this; it was -21C last night.
Absolutely great conversation. I'm bookmarking this video to play it again in the future.
I love both of these humans!
Joey has such a unique energy, I love it.
Two of my favorite minds on the internet!!
Well done!
Joe’s comments and insights are gold. I love the recent round of interviews. Nice one!
Watching Tesla content is my passion 😂
Awesome talk!
Wonderful interview.
wow was amazing!!!
thank you for you both.
at the end....."the agile book" lol
Wow! Great Insight! Thanks for sharing! Well worth the Endness ICE commercials....
❤️ 💙 💜 💖 💗 💘 ❤️ 💙 💜 💖
Great interview
The Coney Island matchstick replica story, reminds me of when I used to visit people's homes to quote them to move house.
I've met many such people, generally older engineers. Sheffield UK (purely based on my empirical experience) is full of such people.
Whether they've lathes and welders or fishing tackle or oil or watercolour painting equipment in their cellar or attic they created many things I consider to be art. I came to classify these people as having their own religion. Being able to relate led to many interesting conversations.
They were all fundamentally problem solvers.
Yorkshire for GF6 Elon?
Two awesome minds trying to improve us all 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😍
Great stuff
Good interview
Wow! This is gonna be crazy
Great discussion. My training and expertise is in "multi-state-determinate-machine-systems-design", originally called "cybernetics". This discipline is what makes computers possible. With your concept that you call "modularity" you are actually talking about improving the design of multi state "parts" in a set of inter-related parts that define your determinate machine. Each part has determinate sub parts, AND your "system" exists inside and can be influenced by a universe.
What a fascinating interview! Lots of deeply thought-provoking material. Like that bit about people choosing to "self-domesticate" as "golgi apparatuses" of their "shells" (homes/spaceships?)--maybe that sort of thing will start happening when there's a Tesla self-driving motor home, who knows?
Funny conversation between two dudes. Like it a lot 👍
I love Joe! Thanks!!!!
Loved this! There’s so much truth in the idea that, if you love your work, and you feel that you accomplishing something worthwhile, the clock and calendar are irrelevant. Family time, vacations, etc are incredibly important, but I’ve found myself doing projects during downtime on vacations. Not because I had to. Also, this isn’t just for corporate types, or engineers, or scientists. I was a firefighter/paramedic and there was always a project that had my attention.
I would listen to a 3 hour version of this interview and relish every hour.
Part two coming to a device near us soon I hope.
2 very interesting humans ! Cheers 🍻
1:00:35 - if employees are peeing in garbage cans, maybe someone should look into providing some high rise porta potties - the kind that's on wheels with the urinal on the outside. (That is, porta potties designed for use in a skyscraper under construction.) They're easy to relocate to where they're needed, so given the size of the factory it might be good to put a tracking device on them so the service guy can find them when it's time to service them.
Me too I'm an explorer not exploited, this is the reason I love your channel and in gea TH-cam addict I love to learn, often then move on
I can so relate to both of you.
Joe has been on a big run through all the tesla youtubers haha
Oh Man...
I SO want to watch it but gotta work now...
So tempting!
I’m stunned by as I begin to understand the veraciousness of TESLAs speed of innovation. How wall street doesn’t visit a plant, talk with employees and experience Tesla as an alien dreadnaught is beyond me. THAT is research, not reading a P&L.
I also hope this is the first of many conversations! Also can’t wait for the day we can freely learn about all the crazy stuff Tesla has under NDAs!
What a great and valueable conversation! Greetings from aikido 2nd dan 😉
Elon is just a sweetheart.
Did the audio cut out for all listeners in the last few minutes, or is it just my system? What a great discussion you had, thanks for sharing!
That …… was…… amazing!….👏……..👏……….👏..👏…
Exploit Self Optimisation Paradigm: sounds to me like it is all about understanding sustainability loops and learning how to expand and strengthen them.
Love Joe! Well done interview Dr. THere is not one company that improves like Tesla and SpaceX. THe OEMs forget about it. The main obstacle is stratification of duties and unions and lack of vision. Nothing against unions, but it is very hard to improvise with them. Regular manu is reducing variation which creates an atmosphere of don't rock the boat. Elon lets the horses (and minds) run free and look at the results! Thanks for the episode.
Wow ... really interesting. I may have to listen a second time to more fully comprehend all the implications.
39:50 "...almost anyone in all Musk companies makes about $20 an hour..."
Is that true? Heard that Tesla Berlin is paying really good money even for entry level job and people with no special qualification?
I always like the idea about the compensation in stock options.
Climate change topics John could be interesting. Interesting topics thanks. Very well done
You could call your further conversations the "J" Talks. I would definitely watch them.
Unless you have worked at Tesla you don't understand the level of innovation there without having listened to people like Joe.
I need that big history timeline poster. Does anyone know where to find it?
So much love!! Ha ha
great interview... I am all about the agile and love hearing these stories and ideas discussed. I wonder if I can claim education credits with scrum alliance from listening to this? hmmm
love spacex. We traveled to Boca Chica to the the starshing get built. & we got the S dual motor fsd last Christmas 🎄 😎 still have the cybertruck tri motor or 4 motor fsd on order, i got lots of solar & backup battery system to charge them both. love tsla stock
Balance in everything. The Semi and Cybertruck really only have branding value and hype. It makes no sense to build either one until there is a massive surplus of batteries. They are great concepts but Tesla's best intrest is to build as many 3s and Ys as they can. However innovation and R&D are important down the road.
70s kid here too. I had the universally consulted Dr. Ritalin 😅 I believe a general practitioner wrote the prescription 😊
This was a continuous stream of deep insights.
Outside of the Tesla discussion, I marked those keywords: mind-body connection, media randomness->truth, social good, zoom out. On zoom out, it was interesting the connection with Joe's eyes issues and the scene in the canteen when he felt like having a 3rd person view.
As for Tesla related, the highlight for me was how they do AI feedback, how not having a ladder leads to effort on long term stock price optimization & good for everyone, ML stack that thinks like Elon :)
Yeah, I believe that consciousness outside of our planet does not have to be in the current biological form. If you have read Bruce Lipton / The Biology of Belief, I’d like to hear your opinion on the idea that we are just a broadcast in a quantum field and your cells have receptors of you.
Thanks John!
Great interview squeezed into a concert of commercials.
You can't have everything. Anything FREE isn't really FREE most of the time.
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"Longer term return on investment horizon corrects for a lot of problems. Short term investment horizon creates a lot of problems."
When was this interview held? 1/16?
I hope Elon will get his mind into this hive-mind and we can get innovative ideas for the next million years 😅
Papa Elon forever
"There's a lot of corporate cultures, particularly the top down command control ones, that view you as a contribution and not a holistic thing to be loved, that don't want you to go yo the gym , that don't want you to go for a bike rode, because you're not solving their problem"
Loved it. Lots to think about. Needing 7 billion people to produce 1 Elon Musk is a base level forcing function 😊. Maybe agile thinking could optimise on that 👍.
I wonder what sets the pace of innovation at Tesla where you feel the need to run. Is there a run away train effect, where self optimisation coupled with parallel optimisation forces a ratcheting effect. Would love to know.
Bloody hell my head has been unscrewed shook up then put back upside down,
7 hours 700 likes 7000k views great interview