I Was Scammed With 800 MicroSD cards

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    0:00 Intro
    0:12 I was scammed with 800 microSD cards
    5:38 ChatGPT is revolutionising phishing
    10:09 Linode
    10:47 Outro
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  • @Seytonic
    @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Update: After 3 months of back and forth, Alibaba has finally agreed to a refund... haven't received it yet though

    • @BowFunYT
      @BowFunYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool, hope you get the refund.

    • @thirddrone
      @thirddrone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have you gotten it yet?

    • @attackehh
      @attackehh ปีที่แล้ว

      got it?

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@attackehh yup! Minus £30 or so thanks to currency conversion... and another £150 or so I paid in import taxes to have it shipped to me in the first place...

    • @attackehh
      @attackehh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Seytonic awesome!!

  • @Diviance
    @Diviance ปีที่แล้ว +492

    I would have issued a chargeback through my credit card the minute Alibaba declined the refund on that absurd excuse. Let them pay the penalties.

    • @Frozendown
      @Frozendown ปีที่แล้ว +43

      That's a good point. Why didn't OP do this?

    • @xeobit2781
      @xeobit2781 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes they should do this

    • @TKOin2life
      @TKOin2life ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definately

    • @vizionthing
      @vizionthing ปีที่แล้ว +67

      While this may work, there's a good chance Alibaba would ban your account, this in turn would block normal access to current parts supplies, that could be more painful if you are running a small online business.

    • @senoraraton
      @senoraraton ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@vizionthing So create a new account, under a new email....

  • @ryanvegntech
    @ryanvegntech ปีที่แล้ว +774

    "So I loaded up Alibaba..." - yep

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +245

      I’ve made dozens of wholesale purchases on Alibaba over the past 5 years without a problem. But yea, this kinda stings

    • @vestikes
      @vestikes ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @Seytonic you tried upselling your new product and thus included a microSD card for use. Are you telling your buyers they are aliexpress microSD's? I myself would rather buy my own if I know they come from aliexpress or alibaba. A scammer got scammed lmao

    • @AliveOP
      @AliveOP ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vestikes lmao crybaby

    • @Seytonic
      @Seytonic  ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@vestikes we included a microsd because malduino is very picky when it comes to capacities, so we ended up going with a 128mb card, not something most people have.
      We bought them from Amazon in the end rather than Alibaba

    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@vestikes Frankly many non-official products use wholesale cheap parts. Likely you have gotten the same SD cards or similar for other products.

  • @Sameer.Trivedi
    @Sameer.Trivedi ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Bro mitos cards is the funniest excuse I have heard in a while.

  • @___DRIP___
    @___DRIP___ ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Flash storage in general is one of the most counterfeited items on the internet. However, it’s usually the high capacity cards that are faked. I’m sorry to hear you went through this my bro. You’re doing a great job

  • @astrrra
    @astrrra ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Oh, I really feel you with the SD SPI thing. It's a huge headache for the Flipper Zero, as even reputable manufacturers like Samsung and SanDisk can sometimes leave it out, so we literally can't recommend any SD card brand, as they may remove SPI at any moment. This sucks :(

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon ปีที่แล้ว

      Was it only the case for SDHC/SDXC, or was it also the case for plain SD? I mean, it would be fair if SDHC cards wouldn't support SDI, but plain SD that were only used for compatibility reasons still should, right?

    • @astrrra
      @astrrra ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @FlameRat_YehLon The issue with plain microSD cards is that they're incredibly rare these days, we haven't seen them being sold anywhere apart from alibaba/aliexpress, and this video shows that those are not the places that we want to recommend. The SPI protocol is still a part of the standard and should be included in SDHC and later cards.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@astrrra If that's the case, then maybe don't try to look for SD cards, look specificaly for "SPI compatible SD cards" instead. I'm pretty sure there are still commercial products that uses the SPI protocol, thus sourcing for this specific need should still be possible. I've even seen sellers that specifically sells eMMC cards despite those were likely rarely used and the seller claims it to be not compatible with most SD devices despite being the same shape.
      Basically, when something can't be assumed any more, don't assume it any more.

    • @ExperimentIV
      @ExperimentIV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      god i wish i could afford a flipper zero 😭

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlameRat_YehLon To be fair the problem is that the SD Card market has shown itself to be a complete wild west that no party private or public has shown the willingness and ability to enforce accurate descriptions in the slightest. This began with just throwing up listings for SKU's where they basically randomised the capacity value in the description. It is not spreading to the point that sellers clearly have the perception (apparently correctly) that they can misleadingly represent any and all features of the device and not be subject to proportional and effective sanctions. Without enforcement laws that prohibit generating thousands of SKU's by rolling the dice to select search keywords for the description are not effective and this seems to be pretty much what the market has devolved into, the descriptions are random combinations of words relying on the sheer number of variations to get orders for at least some of them and fulfil them with whatever cheap crap they have on hand regardless whether any part of the description actually matches the features of said product.

  • @Das_Unterstrich
    @Das_Unterstrich ปีที่แล้ว +470

    I think that some amount of phishing-emails are written awfully wrong on purpose. You may initially bait less people, but the ones that still fall for it are far more likely to fall for further things as well.

    • @CMKloser
      @CMKloser ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Nah, that is dumb. They are just bad at what they do. I've seen better phishing links that easily truck people that should know better. Hell I got one "from metamask" the other day that looks super legit

    • @zhitaburnurli9631
      @zhitaburnurli9631 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@CMKloser They do thing differently, i think. i always receive badly written scam, and simple search on google can show you why they do that.

    • @vizionthing
      @vizionthing ปีที่แล้ว +16

      remember half the people in the world are below the average IQ line, with out doubt you are correct, this is by far the best way to target the most profitable marks er victims

    • @HikaruAkitsuki
      @HikaruAkitsuki ปีที่แล้ว

      Scammers are very different from hackers. This dude's are hopeless for clean business specially in IT stuff so they do dirty work because they are idiots. They are so idiot so that's why they need customer dumber than them, not nerd like us. I'm don't want to talk I'll for the victim, but we have nothing to do when they not asking like us.

    • @NightcoreSkies
      @NightcoreSkies ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Actually, there's a theory that scammers purposely do that so they wouldn't waste their time with people who actually know who's a scam and would instead mess with people who are not too tech-savvy so it's easier to scam them.

  • @jonix24mejor
    @jonix24mejor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what I don't like about "mediocre" online stores, because many people believe that just because they offer "protected shopping" that means you can buy literally anything, even if it is EVIDENTALLY questionable, and they will still give you your money back.
    I understand that stores like Amazon can be more expensive, be more short of product variety and even present their own problems when it comes to asking for returns, but at least they have a reputation to defend, while others, as they don't sell and sometimes don't even send any product at all, see it very easy to wipe their hands at the first opportunity they get.
    That's why I always recommend using this type of stores as little as possible, and only if the buyer has enough time to fight with the technical support to ask for a refund.

  • @dokols
    @dokols ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Was scanmed on aliexpress when buying microsd cards as well. And aliexpress was on the side of the scammers. I documented fake capacity using h2testw but they still declined my case.

    • @ligametis
      @ligametis ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was it a new account? They rarely side with accounts that are new or haven't spent much.
      Surprisingly many people are trying to scam AliExpress itself, like constantly using new accounts for 5$ discount

    • @thedogsdiddies8421
      @thedogsdiddies8421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you paid by credit card, you could open a dispute/charge back with them?

    • @blueberry1c2
      @blueberry1c2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "nah bro they're not SD cards, they're Greggos cards"

    • @1234567895182
      @1234567895182 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would a credit charge back be possible?

    • @azaelg8658
      @azaelg8658 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is your fault..being places as best buy or Walmart where they only sell genuine ones only a fool go at Alibaba to buy microsd cards

  • @vizionthing
    @vizionthing ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I asked chatGPT to create an stl file for a small cube, it gave instructions on how to do it in blender, the first instruction was to delete the default cube, showing that its not intelligent but can surmise what should be done from every blender tutorial ever. - made me smile

  • @RealCyberCrime
    @RealCyberCrime ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've analyzed probably 1000+ phishing emails at my job in the past two years and have noticed an uptick in quite convincing (to the average user) ones. Still PLENTY of "sir do the needful and send me your credit card"

    • @TheGTP1995
      @TheGTP1995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      > Still PLENTY of "sir do the needful and send me your credit card"
      Because that's an effective way of selecting the victims, see also my other comment.

    • @Cornz38
      @Cornz38 ปีที่แล้ว

      A thousand in two years??? I deal with that a DAY!!!

    • @RealCyberCrime
      @RealCyberCrime ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cornz38 no spam filter?

  • @bufordmaddogtannen
    @bufordmaddogtannen ปีที่แล้ว +92

    A couple of things: mitos is a brand, not a storage type.
    If these can be written in full without errors on a PC, sell them with a reminder to this video.

    • @roberteischen4170
      @roberteischen4170 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Who is gonna buy a 4 gb SD card though?

    • @bufordmaddogtannen
      @bufordmaddogtannen ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@roberteischen4170 anyone who needs one / anyone who wants to support the channel.

    • @tezcanaslan2877
      @tezcanaslan2877 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@roberteischen4170scammers or people that need a cheap option for their cameras and camcorders

    • @dinamitemaster
      @dinamitemaster ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roberteischen4170 I bought one just a month ago to have something guaranteed to work reliably with my 3D printer. Many devices don't need high capacity storage and many don't work well with it, especially older designs.

    • @MsHojat
      @MsHojat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe Mitos is _also_ a brand, but from what I can tell, they do no make proper SD cards, only the MitosD cards that follow some of the SD specs. They do not use the proper SD logo ever.
      So they're still not proper SD cards, because SD is the spec. These are essentially imitation/counterfeit, and might be illegal in many countries outside of China, but it's in a bit of gray area due to the different name (like Nika instead of Nike)

  • @JohnDeaux
    @JohnDeaux ปีที่แล้ว +71

    to be fair about the phishing mail thing, some of the mails paypal sends actually look a lot like phishing emails. I have seen better paypal phishing emails than actual paypal emails. Paypal just is a crap company

    • @Yorick257
      @Yorick257 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yeah, I just got one a month ago.
      "Your account has been identified as inactive. Unless action is taken before , this account will be charged the inactivity service fee". And when I logged in (directly, no link clicking), PayPal hasn't said a single thing.
      it might have been a scam now that I compared this email with older Paypal letters. ... Or maybe not, IDK anymore, it's a mess!

    • @JohnDeaux
      @JohnDeaux ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Yorick257 actually that was very likely a legit PayPal mail. They started doing this inactivity shit I think in the beginning of 2022, I've gotten a few of those mails myself since. I guess the way to identify PayPal phishing mail is that the real PayPal will likely not address you by your name, while good phishing mails will

    • @oyedeji.oyewole
      @oyedeji.oyewole ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnDeaux or you can just check the from address

    • @JohnDeaux
      @JohnDeaux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oyedeji.oyewole not sufficient any more - (a) because the from header can be spoofed, (b) because you can overwrite the from header and lastly because scammers figured out how to actually send out scam mails using PayPal chat feature that actually come from PayPal's email servers

    • @oyedeji.oyewole
      @oyedeji.oyewole ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnDeaux hmm, I never knew you could spoof those stuff, I wonder how much scams were in my inbox that I thought were legit

  • @simmydsimmyd
    @simmydsimmyd ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Haven't read the SD specs in a while, but if I recall correctly SPI mode is optional and not having it doesn't make the card less SD.

    • @jaro6985
      @jaro6985 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, which is why its kind of on OP for not googling "will all microSD cards work with SPI" before buying them. Of course, I could have made the same mistake because you don't know what you don't know.
      edit: there are some very good stackxchange discussions on this topic with more detailed info.

  • @jonjimihendrix
    @jonjimihendrix ปีที่แล้ว +51

    A good and trusted supplier is always worth the extra money.

    • @VarenvelDarakus
      @VarenvelDarakus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      indeed , this extends to anything , cyberpunk2077 exects had bright idea to "offsource" testing to romania and they hired some big software testing company there , why they not hired locals or in their own company? they wanted to save money
      and that romanian company was not hundrets of people but like far less and they not tested a lot things they did , they must done this before as up to few weeks of relese c0277 devs not cough on it
      they saved pennies , but costed it milions as we know how relese of it was
      funny is romanian goverment will side in lawsuits with scam company like they alweys do:P so CDPR wont ever see any compensation.

    • @bearkylls
      @bearkylls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VarenvelDarakus The bigger problem here is that the government is able to intervene in a lawsuit. Politics and justice should be different powers, not controlled by one another. Romania is not a democracy. People are enslaved (minimum wage is less than minimum living cost, literaly). Most of the country is corrupt.

  • @Jennn
    @Jennn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Gosh Seytonic... Thank You for the Full Disclosure here. It's getting super ridiculous how much people want to fake these dang cards of all types and capacities. They even go through some sort of effort on their parts to format these things and program them. Are the Margins really that great to be cutting corners in this fashion? What about Customer Retention? It doesn't make sense to me how this sort of dodgy bs would make more sense to some one who has the means to produce, as opposed to just building a real product...

    • @rashira9610
      @rashira9610 ปีที่แล้ว

      The crazy thing is that these people would probably make more money in the long run if they just made legit cards and started a new brand...Better cards = charge more.
      I understand the economics behind mass selling fake cards for cheap but I still cant help but think that in the long run they'd make more by just selling real cards.

  • @computerkiller1494
    @computerkiller1494 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You also needed to specify that they were 4 gb and not the 2gb as advertised (i saw that you wrote it, seems like product trade assurance is BS to forget that particular)

  • @Phroggster
    @Phroggster ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ahh, Alibaba... Where you're the product, and the scammers are in total control. Hopefully you're able to figure out another use for those cards, and hopefully they're not really 512MiB cards with an 8x (or 4x?) overprovision.

  • @M3D1C2121
    @M3D1C2121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even if they are janky, hopefully they can find a new home in a project and not be wasted. Plus it'd lessen the 1200 monetary blow.

  • @naskivik
    @naskivik ปีที่แล้ว +21

    average seller on wish:

  • @X21XXI
    @X21XXI ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I find it hilarious how chatgpt always goes like "As a large language model I cannot... " or " sorry but that request goes against my..." and then follows that up with "but here's a [proceeds to answer or do the thing you requested]" that it supposedly "cannot" or "isn't capable of" doing, you can almost tell that it's reward system is more biased towards giving answers than it is to outright refusing to do so, which I guess helps it to better propagate information based on the requests or whatever, lol.

    • @blueberry1c2
      @blueberry1c2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will even violate its own content policy without any special prompting. I found that out by accident, and it was a result I didn't explicitly ask for and it was really disgusting. I'm never gonna tell it to write fanfiction ever again...

  • @tonik2558
    @tonik2558 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You got me all excited for new AI fishing techniques, only to then tell me it's about some scammers, and not catching fish.

    • @robhulluk
      @robhulluk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I was thinking "How the f*ck can AI help with fishing?" I guess it's a good thing I still mostly live in the real world!

  • @DetConanEdogawa
    @DetConanEdogawa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe i made a mistake, but... the original SD specifications are for cards up to 2 GB.
    This card it's a 4GB card so it's a SDHC, maybe your device can't read if for this reason ?
    It's too simple and for sure you already know that but... it still can be good notice it.
    I had many problems with SDHC and arduino-like device in past so...

  • @MrKelaher
    @MrKelaher ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ha ! have had this issue with some "SD" not working on embedded things but working on PC, and now I know why !

  • @socksoff5th
    @socksoff5th ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used it to help me finish creating my SaaS front-end and back-end today. Sure, the code it gave me wasn't 100% but the things it did miss were easy to spot and add or correct since I already have programming experience

  • @MorgothCreator
    @MorgothCreator ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You need to debug the initialisation library of the uSD, see where is stuck or timeouts, sometime some cards have a little different timings in initialisation implementation, experienced that in the past using different cards.
    Most probably the cards are good but the library you use is not initialising the card due timings or something like that.

    • @maxtrix1
      @maxtrix1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A very good answer, that could be the culprit.
      Also, is seytonic sure that they don't work on SPI? Have him tried with another SPI device?

    • @frep420
      @frep420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What software or hardware do you need to do that? I’ve always wondered what was going wrong with SD cards and Rpi, spy cameras, dash cams, etc

    • @MorgothCreator
      @MorgothCreator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frep420 RPI's, spy cameras, dash cameras does not use the SPI interface, the SD interface does not need initialisation, the uSD start in SD interface mode, in order to switch to SPI mode you need to provide 80 clock's with the chip select high at ~400khz( some cards accept higher speeds for that, some are very strict and don't ), after that you need to set it up, get the supported mode and maximum speed, after that you can increase the SPI speed to desired speed not exceeding the card SPI speed, they can work in 1 ( SPI ) and 4 bit's ( SD ) or 8 bits for eMMC memories that use the same SD protocol ( I seen in the protocol that they can support the 2bit SD protocol as well ), but for SD cards SPI is mandatory supported, the same for SDHC, I don't know for SDXC but is possible to have the SPI IP as well.
      Some time because of some issues in uSD initialisation to use SPI interface when the speed is changed from initialisation speed to transfer speed something can go wrong and the lib can't access the uSD content, even if the lib indicate that the uSD has been initialised successfully.
      Another thing is that if they are 4GB SDHC, most probably they are the first batch of SDHC cards that they have issues on SPI initialisation because they use the first SDHC IP that came out immediately after SDHC specifications were out, they were the most problematic cards from the SPI interfacing point of view 🤷‍♂

    • @frep420
      @frep420 ปีที่แล้ว

      After I sent the message I thought about my question. You are talking about the initialization of the SPI of the hardware, not the reader. Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it!

  • @fazlymawlarafi9331
    @fazlymawlarafi9331 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe consider going through the licensing process for using SD mode for the next version of your MalDuino. So at least those SD cards would not go to waste.

    • @vaclavtrpisovsky
      @vaclavtrpisovsky ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If the return process fails, he can still sell them on the Maltronics store as obscure merch, obviously labeled as “non-compliant 4GB cards” in the listing.

  • @Chlorate299
    @Chlorate299 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The AI revolution that's going on at the moment seems a lot like a genie being let out of a bottle... I reckon soon it'll be next to impossible to determine what online content was created by humans, and what wasn't.
    This whole thing seems very scary.

    • @HauntedSheppard
      @HauntedSheppard ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The beginning of the end really.

    • @felicityc
      @felicityc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This comment could even be a bot!!

    • @jameswalker199
      @jameswalker199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For some time already things like news articles have been ghostwritten by AI and the actual journalist just tweaks the facts to reflect what the paper wants to promote. Granted, that's not 100% written by the -hand- end effector of a robot, but its still majority a machine's work.

  • @oNorw
    @oNorw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alibaba trade assurance is just shitty. i have gotten broken items, wrong items and items were missing to the rest of the product did not work but alibaba does not care at all. i have gotten better luck with finding a shipping agent that takes care of everything inside of china. when sellers does not know the product will be exported they seem to do a better job with helping "me" (my chinese shipping agent).
    i import like 8-15 pallets at a time, from 10-15 factories and there are almost always some issue with 5-10% of the goods.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe learn how to preserve proofs properly then? Things might sound unfair if you don't do it the right way, but there have also been quite a lot of scammers that tries to scam sellers. Also when the quantity is high enough maybe just sign a supply contract with the seller directly rather than use an online platform to do the job.

    • @oNorw
      @oNorw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FlameRat_YehLon sending pictures of it and me opening it on camera and showing that I received the wrong items were not good enough. I got a variety of excuses from the factory and a year later they tried to sell me something again and when I reminded them that they shipped the wrong items they put a bunch of emojis and said “it’s not that much money you lost so don’t be angry 😂😂😂” Alibaba trade insurance even asked me to send pictures of items that were missing and when I asked how that is supposed to be done they did not answer.
      I obviously do not buy from those factories that do that.but the ones where sample orders are good quality and they give me updates and actually want to form a longer lasting business relationship I work with directly.
      It’s a cost of business, I might get samples from 3 suppliers and if 2 deliver bad quality products I obviously do not go with them.
      I don’t really use alibaba anymore because as I said I have a person in china that buys direct and takes care of those things.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oNorw Well, trying to import things from a foreign source in China without going through an agent is just as annoying, if not more so. Everyone would have to learn how to deal with a foreign seller if they want to import directly from them, whether it's to or from China.
      In fact, even within China nobody make large quantity purchases directly on sites like Alibaba. The usual norm is to buy samples on these websites and sign direct contract for the volume purchase. Or alternatively they buy from websites that directly hosts and services their products (for example, JD), as opposed to buy from third party sources on a website, but that's the same as buying from an agent really.

    • @sn5806
      @sn5806 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't buy nearly enough to justify bothering to go through this process, but that sounds like good advice to me.

  • @TheGTP1995
    @TheGTP1995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding badly written phishing emails, there was a research by Microsoft proving that using bad English is actually *beneficial* to the scammers. The reason is that it works as a way of selecting their victims: who falls for the badly written email, is less likely to understand what's going on even after the fact, and so it's less likely to report the stolen money to the real company (e.g. PayPal or your bank) in a timely fashion. This means that the real company doesn't take action immediately to stop the phishing campain, so it can last longer.

  • @vicfic_
    @vicfic_ ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Does this mean that Chat-GPT was trained on malware source codes?
    Like, Did open-ai just dump the whole of Github in its training?

    • @waldolemmer
      @waldolemmer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes. Malware on GitHub tends to be garbage, though

    • @bobSeigar
      @bobSeigar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ts757arse the problem with this stuff: no matter how hard it gets, we will find a way to make it cross lines. Humans push limits pretty well I think.

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Possibly also on articles and proofs of concept by security researchers. Very possible they trained it on academic publications.

    • @alluseri
      @alluseri ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they did, Slowpoke

    • @napalmholocaust9093
      @napalmholocaust9093 ปีที่แล้ว

      It won't tell you what it's databases are. I asked it.

  • @augiblutz2852
    @augiblutz2852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many moons ago we had the nigerian emails:
    I am his Excellecy Colonel Mumbo Jumbo ...
    I though nobody would be daft enough; wrong again.
    Over 10,000 somebodys were daft enough to hand over $250M.

  • @kotemanoble1734
    @kotemanoble1734 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s so wrong! Those scammers will have their day yet! Thanks for the video!

  • @ChosenOne6666
    @ChosenOne6666 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    File a claim with your bank.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz ปีที่แล้ว

      Gets you blacklisted on Alibaba for good, and what if you need something you can't get in another way, something unique from China?

    • @fusseldieb
      @fusseldieb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SianaGearz People are wayy too afraid of this. Make a new Ali account, with a new virtual card, under new information and that's it. If it complains the card HOLDER is banned, just use your parents card, wife's, gf, whatever, you name it. I never had to do that, but soon might...
      Just last month I got shipped the wrong model of a plastic bezel and they wanted me to ship it back at my cost - which was the price of the thing itself. Upon questioning the seller, he went into silence. Filed a claim.

  • @gus473
    @gus473 ปีที่แล้ว

    ✌🏼 Two great stories! Thanks! 😎✌🏼

  • @fpsVAMPZ
    @fpsVAMPZ ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they have anything installed in the other partition

  • @louis-philippesavard742
    @louis-philippesavard742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How ironic that I get to see Alibaba ads while watching your video 🤔

  • @Scapestoat
    @Scapestoat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bad phishing emails are intentionally bad. To filter out anyone with a brain.
    Making fun of how bad they are is missing the point.

  • @dwel6708
    @dwel6708 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Would love to see more of what ChatGPT can do

    • @sanskar9679
      @sanskar9679 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ts757arse WTF
      So now AI can be manipulated into being used for easily commiting infinite cybercrimes by just telling it to find vulnerabilities in softwares and giving any random excuse
      I wonder what happens when it's used by people to store private info like passwords maybe even credit card details
      Hell even if it has access to storage on a phone

    • @p3tr0s1989
      @p3tr0s1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am coding as a hobby in C# but I can't even remember how to write a Hello World app in C++. As a POC I went into github to find a simple C++ project. Pasted to ChatGPT a C++ code snippet and asked it to explain what the program does and to rewrite it in C# - It gave me a an explanation of how it worked and gave me some c# code. I did like two changes to the output and it worked as intended. My test isn't something incredibly hard but I can only imagine the potential for teaching if treated carefully.

    • @JUIYKI
      @JUIYKI ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@p3tr0s1989 it can even find bugs in your code

    • @MasterOfDisasterInAl
      @MasterOfDisasterInAl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I asked for an application letter and now I have a new job

    • @underscoredotpng
      @underscoredotpng ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MasterOfDisasterInAl lol wut 8'D

  • @VitalTechnology_
    @VitalTechnology_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's insane. The ai can write landing pages and ransomware.

  • @mikemondano3624
    @mikemondano3624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SD cards should partition like mechanical drives. But they have quirks sometimes. Instead of taking a risk, I guess I would have made the minimal changes to the partition by simply deleting the second and leaving it blank. If it worked, there would be 2 GB at least.

    • @AndrewMerts
      @AndrewMerts ปีที่แล้ว

      There wasn't a second partition, it was left blank. It sounds like the malDuino doesn't read partition tables and just uses it as a raw bunch of bytes. The partitioning to 2GB and the labelling on the card is probably because these were 4GB cards that failed QC due to bad NAND. You can overprovision SD cards and SSDs by just leaving space unpartitioned. This is sketchy coming from a seller like that as there are tools to properly resize the logical size so that the card reports to the host the 2GB size instead of 4GB but if you try to write it all you'll lose data. This is similar to the common SD card scam where people change the size and labelling of a 1GB SD card and have it report back 512GBs.

  • @Zzznmop
    @Zzznmop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree chat gpt will create more coherent phishing emails. But I thought the point they were poorly formed in the first place was so that only people who don’t recognize/care about those things are their targets

  • @nickofthyme
    @nickofthyme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes bad grammar in phishing emails is a feature not a bug. They target people that are dumb enough to fall for the scheme without having to bother with those that sniff out the scam immediately.

  • @PhilippBlum
    @PhilippBlum ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tbf with the seller. You could have asked in the first place if they support SPI mode.

  • @BenjaminHari
    @BenjaminHari ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel your pain when it comes to buying thing on chinese sites like AliBaba and Aliexpress. You have to triple check and triple ask what are the specifications of the thing you buy because you can't assume anything and doing things like that is a common scam on those sites.
    Always ask and check as much as possible before ordering AND RECORD yourself analyzing the package and then opening it in case the product was damaged and/or different product was sent to you.

  • @radekt.7843
    @radekt.7843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That SD card story is interesting for another reason... its cheaper to make 4gb cards and then adjust the size down (or up by faking it), than making 2 gb cards separately..
    btw.. what are you going to do with those SD cards? you could include them as a gift on your store... "hey you bought malduino? here have useless sd card with it too :3"

    • @vaclavtrpisovsky
      @vaclavtrpisovsky ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? Do ≤2GB cards specifically need to comply with the old non-HC standard, requiring extra electronics?

    • @vaclavtrpisovsky
      @vaclavtrpisovsky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, they are not useless unless they have bad sectors. 4 GB can fit a decent collection of MP3s or audiobooks. Or a reasonable number of pictures if you forget or fill your main card in a DSLR. In such a situation, I was happy for an ancient slow 512MB card.

  • @y_strikes2770
    @y_strikes2770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep pushing, if you give up they win

  • @perkaholic.999
    @perkaholic.999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg this makes perfect sensor I ordered a bunch of sd cards and they made my computer stop reading them for a good while I had to wipe local drive and get a new card reader and I was finally able to read and write again on top of the same issues with micro boards thanks for this video

  • @acmehighperformance2826
    @acmehighperformance2826 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this video. weve wondered how we will be handled when something scammy like this happens. we will now always choose another way to buy our bulk supplies first whenever possible. no reward for bad service alibaba

  • @blaqgamin5073
    @blaqgamin5073 ปีที่แล้ว

    man I got scammed twice on micro SD smh 512 and 128gb one yes they are out there and selling on Amazon but how do you catch the scam?

  • @gamerpaddy
    @gamerpaddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    save em for the next malduino that maybe uses a mcu that has a native SD interface like esp32-s2 or stm32f103, both have native usb too

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait what, why are 2GB cards faster in SPI mode? I'd like to know more about that.
    I've been using 4GB cards in my SPI-mode things but the things i do aren't quite performance critical and it didn't occur to me that there's any relationship between card capacity and speed, some are just weirder and junkier than others.

    • @H30_
      @H30_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I'd like to know more about this statement as well. @Seytonic If you can't answer, at least throw some sources at us please.

  • @nomore-constipation
    @nomore-constipation ปีที่แล้ว

    How much for a tray? If you are okay with breaking even I'd like to see if I could use these at the office as a gift for quick transfer

  • @augiblutz2852
    @augiblutz2852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love chatGPT and I love the way you presented it.

  • @lugoheriberto
    @lugoheriberto ปีที่แล้ว

    But what was loaded in the hidden partition?? Why were they partitioned??

  • @GamePlayShare
    @GamePlayShare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make a video about weird relabeled 80387SX coprocessors that flood the market. Thye have weird 16-25 mhz markings

  • @liucyrus22
    @liucyrus22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I doubt the product description or the seller would explicitly list support for SPI mode.
    So according to the Chinese after sales I guess it doesn’t count as “not as described”.

  • @josephs3973
    @josephs3973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the original product page say in any way, shape or form that these were not SD compliant or something like that? Like referring to them as "SD compatible" or something to that effect?

  • @nagi603
    @nagi603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You buy on alibaba, this is what you get... including the rejection of your complaint. It's cheap exactly because it's bound to be dodgy.
    ...yet you will continue to pay them.

  • @5mxg
    @5mxg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had problems with initializing sdhc as spi, they needed some quirks before they started to work reliably. afair they needed more time and more than 74 clocks ticks to initialize. maybe it's the case? but.. you wanted non-hc cards, which indeed are faster (i mean hc's are slower when using them sector by sector and 512 bytes, but they are faster with larger blocks)

    • @jaro6985
      @jaro6985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes thats definitely a possibility if they just plugged it in and said "oh it doesn't work".
      I've tried a number of microSD and from what I recall all worked with SPI (even the obscure brands), some needed an additional delay before responding as you say.
      If you google "How can I initialize/use SD cards with SPI?" there is a good stackxchange post with tons of tips.

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't buy anymore electronic parts or components from Chinese sellers, or eBay.
    I used the sample technique you mentioned because RAM have five other parameters - other than size and speed - and is where one gets scammed, just the lack of sou mode on your cards...

  • @harrisontu264
    @harrisontu264 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like Chat GPT. I had a bit of a cooking accident last week, so can’t really type well for about a week, and I needed a script written in a hurry. Normally I would’ve sat down and just written it, but without being able to type, it’s very difficult. I was going to dictate it to someone to have them type it out for me, but I realized why not try to get the AI to do it for me, and see what happened? Within 10 minutes, after only three tweaks, I had a usable script. I just use the speech to text feature on my computer to give the AI commands in standard English.

  • @boboften9952
    @boboften9952 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does torch light Induction work on these cards ?

  • @Interceptor
    @Interceptor ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't able to find you on Patreon. Planning to register there anytime soon? 🙂

  • @orangeapples
    @orangeapples ปีที่แล้ว

    A few years ago I received an email from the bank and when i read it i found no grammatical or spelling errors. The only reason i found it suspicious is because i don’t have an account with that bank. I still printed the email out and took it to a local branch in case it was legit.

  • @Lucavon
    @Lucavon ปีที่แล้ว

    I was able to use chatgpt to write a script that checks a server for vulnerable samba versions. It first had bad version checking ($ver < 4.1.3) but when I told it to use major minor and patch parts, it worked.
    I then asked it to write an ansible playbook using that script to create a list of vulnerable machines in my inventory for me. ChatGPT is insane, and it is only the beginning.
    While I do believe AI will hit a sort of plateau sometime in the future, once it gets access to the internet, or we make a general intelligence, it will be able to do pretty much anything.

  • @kbramlett6877
    @kbramlett6877 ปีที่แล้ว

    PayPal would NEVER address an email as "Dear Client" or "Dear PayPal Customer." When PayPal sends you an email, they will address it to the account holder personally (eg. Dear John Smith) Additionally, I would dispute the charge with my bank.

  • @jesset2550
    @jesset2550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got fake 32gb pny sdcards shipped and sold by Amazon and they were fake. Seems like they changed suppliers and didn't notice they are bad.

  • @smashSpikeMC
    @smashSpikeMC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aliexpress is also strange about getting money back its worked a few times for me on small things but bigl things like a 20$ cable being sticky due to bad plastic or rubber {de Vulcanizing} rip 20$

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer ปีที่แล้ว

    I got scammed on Amazon and wish for same kind of thing but a memory stick. I was fortunate, first I didn't spend as much as you did, second both sites refunded my money. It's the only time I've ever had a problem. I think in the 20 years that I've been dealing with memory cards I've had one card go bad. Needless to say I have quite a collection of cards and no longer use anymore but they work so I don't throw them out. Never know when you need a lower capacity card for something. I hate throwing away things that work

  • @vidal9747
    @vidal9747 ปีที่แล้ว

    ChatGPT usually solves the symbolic equations in Physics problems very well. But for some weird reason, it frequently solves everything right and when it tries to plug the numbers in the solved equation, it gets it wrong.

  • @MsHojat
    @MsHojat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So these cards worked for the 4 GB in SD mode, just not SPI? That's really tricky. Most people won't care either at the consumer level. Although considering that AliBaba tends to do a lot of business/OEM work, it seems a bit more risky, since many buyers may indeed want the SPI mode.

  • @TheRobMozza
    @TheRobMozza ปีที่แล้ว

    Same with virtually all big-businesses.. well maybe you could start a movement to only buy from customer focused companies.. I'd certainly sign up!

  • @aheroicdose
    @aheroicdose ปีที่แล้ว

    PayPal would probably say suspended, as opposed to limited. Better than average, but still has holes.

  • @synaxYO
    @synaxYO ปีที่แล้ว

    babe, wake up! there's a new seytonic video :D

  • @ohanneskamerkoseyan3157
    @ohanneskamerkoseyan3157 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Seytonic. I just wanted to ask the name of your background music. Thank you for the amazing content!

  • @marcellachine5718
    @marcellachine5718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the manufacturer of these fake cards not be sued by the sd consortium? Or other similar action?

  • @LunarShift
    @LunarShift ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one of my AliExpress accounts soft-banned for attempting to get a refund on a faulty product (in my case, one of the dodgy SuperCard DSOne clones going around) as the PSRAM was dead on my unit. They denied my claim and banned me after showing video proof of the unit's own PSRAM test.
    Edit: I think they actually banned me because, after they denied my claim, I attempted a PayPal dispute. I'm not sure, but this likely is against PayPal's terms of use on their end. I often forget that detail when telling this story and have to go back and correct myself. 🤦‍♀️

  • @MiamiMillionaire
    @MiamiMillionaire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That happened to me too, I now have a huge box with 32 GB cards that actually have less than 100 MB memory ( eBay )

    • @fusseldieb
      @fusseldieb ปีที่แล้ว

      100MB is hilarious

  • @vinching926
    @vinching926 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not playing with fire, you're fighting fire with fire

  • @REAZNx
    @REAZNx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean you should be able to get your money back anyway just on the fact that they sent 4GB cards when you ordered 2GB cards, if they still don't budge then just create a chargeback?

  • @ham5497
    @ham5497 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will they work with a DZ09?

  • @Dogsushi42
    @Dogsushi42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to think of the people who type up phishing emails as bumbling idiots that don’t know up from down.

  • @felenov
    @felenov ปีที่แล้ว

    Alibaba is where all wierd tech stories start
    Well, enjoy the cards

  • @jimmyscott5144
    @jimmyscott5144 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I'm hearing you might be selling some 4gb SD cards for just tinkers. Or finding out how to flash the SD card as spi

  • @1234567895182
    @1234567895182 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a credit charge back be possible?

  • @Psychx_
    @Psychx_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The AI singularity is coming and I am sure as hell sceptical about whether I'll like it. It's not just about fishing and the like, but many companies are also starting to handle support via chat bots. This may come with serious consumer repercussions by chasing ever increasing profits via operating cost minimization.

  • @Unc3
    @Unc3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I guess you can include these as gifts for certain purchases 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @fusseldieb
      @fusseldieb ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty expensive gift lmao
      @seytonic should sell them to us via a link in the description or similar. Just mention it on an intro or outro and I would happily buy one for $1-2. Don't even need it shipped - just for the cause.

  • @ko-Daegu
    @ko-Daegu ปีที่แล้ว

    Note: ChatGPT is built in top of GPT-3 algorithm (collection of models really) , data collection process is different. ChatGPT is optimized for dialogue and, therefore, the first fine tuning stage uses data in dialogue form.
    however between ChatGPT and model text-Davinci-003; The process for training both engines and the model architectures are identical: fine-tuning an instruct model + reward model + PPO

  • @james2396
    @james2396 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use the openAI GPT playground instead! They’re calling the model there “GTP 3.5” and I think it’s mostly the same as chatgpt but with less censorship, more controls and not in the specific “chatting” context.

  • @geroffmilan3328
    @geroffmilan3328 ปีที่แล้ว

    ChatGPT looks potent... but this use case seems like using a nuke to open a balsawood door!
    I either write my own mail template when looking to test users for phishing awareness, or look online for original examples of genuine emails when gaining a foothold.
    The harder part is that SPF, DKIM and DMARC are normally well-configured for the most attractive service providers.

  • @kfftfuftur
    @kfftfuftur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well ... instead of trying to come up with fake emails, scammers could just use the same text as legitimate emails to get people to click their links. like send them a receipt that they paid a couple hundred dollars on some random thing not even mentioning that there is something suspicious with the payment. They will click on it and enter their login details instantly.

  • @technikmitben
    @technikmitben ปีที่แล้ว

    Many cheap micro SD cards are very dodgy in SPI mode. Already had similar issues with multiple cheap china types while streaming data from them in SPI mode, many years ago.

  • @Joe-bm4wx
    @Joe-bm4wx ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s when you go to your credit card company

  • @oneeyesmiley5588
    @oneeyesmiley5588 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been scammed so many times online buying micro SD cards online that I just have them delivered from a physical store, or get them in person. Amazon, New Egg, and all the dodgy resellers can get bent...

  • @billjohnson69
    @billjohnson69 ปีที่แล้ว

    We used to use Alibaba before we grew large enough to hire a purchasing agent in Yiwu, which was a game changer. Having someone in China, with high quality standards, who can actually pick up the product really cuts down on fraud. Alibaba is beyond worthless when it comes to seller protection. Even if you are a “platinum buyer” We only use a credit card with a liberal chargeback policy when we are forced to buy on Alibaba. It is so much easier to deal with the credit card company and they are more focused on keeping their customer, you, happy than the seller.

  • @dfec1391
    @dfec1391 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't you issue a charge back to get your money back?

  • @Wreckz_Tea
    @Wreckz_Tea ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard that phishing emails are usually poorly written intentionally. I don't understand why that would be but I've heard it has something to do with people who are dumb enough to fall for a poorly written scam will fall for a more intelligent scam down the road whereas someone who may fall for a well written email once will not be easily fooled again. So you get more money by getting the same poor fools over and over. Idk how true this is but there ya go

  • @MickeyMishra
    @MickeyMishra ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of the reasons RockVille got in trouble with their K9 woofers. They ordered from the factory one woofer spec, and got another. You just got to be very careful when you buy from china.

  • @intel386DX
    @intel386DX ปีที่แล้ว

    and now what will you do with all those micro SD cards?