Classic Failed Us

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
  • #roblox #ww1 #gaming #gameplay
    You got rid of almost a year of peoples work, for what?

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  • @ArmaXXVI
    @ArmaXXVI 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Scrapping 10 whole months of work for "unrealistic city architecture" when the average Roblox player isn't going to care at all about the design of a city being unrealistic sucks and is a massive slap in the face to every contributor and artist who put their heart and soul into Talona.
    If Classic really thinks something is wrong with how the map is structured, he should have spent those 10 months supervising Talona's development process and provide input/assistance to the contributors in-charge of building it, but he instead decided to completely outsource his work while wasting valuable time on an idiotic post-apocalyptic roleplaying game.
    I see clearly why people are angered about it, at this point I question if it would be better to just scrap Talona altogether and get to working on the Eastern Coast update.

    • @1030k
      @1030k 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Perhaps they should outline things before they create it, I'm not sure what they did but maybe planning everything through would've made the progress better than scrapping 2 maps

  • @warsamia1066
    @warsamia1066 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    we're never getting talona

  • @SaintOfGameplay
    @SaintOfGameplay 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I’ll be real I thought when Route 23 dropped we’re going to move straight to Vega and never revisit the Aquilan Campaign again, but well, here we are.

  • @Scpguard67
    @Scpguard67 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Bro all this wait and work I actually feel so bad for the people who worked on Talona just for classic to go "yeah I really don't like the roads it's gonna make people hate the map" and instead of idk just remaking the roads he scraps the entire dam thing for literally no reason I'm actually so done man 😭🙏

    • @natus1
      @natus1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HOW COULD CLASSIC WASTE A VERY BIG UPDATES THATS NOT JUST TALONA BUT NEW WEAPONS LIKE MOLOTOV’S ABD AIRCRAFT STRAFING THE GROUND HE WASTED ALL OF OUR ENTIRE DREAMS OUR WORK AND OUR LOVE TO HIM I SWEAR IF THE MPA IS NOT GOOD THAN THE ORIGINAL I WILL LEAVE THE GROUP AND REMOVE CENTAURA FROM MY FAVORITE

  • @Duck_Man4
    @Duck_Man4 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think classic might just be a perfectionist

  • @wodekw6862
    @wodekw6862 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    They could add a few barricades or something, I dont play centurana that much. For the sake of devs just go easier

  • @GordonJordanGJ4797
    @GordonJordanGJ4797 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    this man's pain is so understandable

    • @deez8202
      @deez8202 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Indeed

  • @adnanbenic8713
    @adnanbenic8713 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Im not mad at anyone who helped build Talona, even Classic, but the only thing REALLY pisses me off, is that Classic just said "Aight were gonna make a new map, let me cook." ... Classic must have some BALLS, to only say that.

  • @Gupiter_IDK
    @Gupiter_IDK 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I feel like “it’s not city like” is not a good excuse. Like, it’s FICTION it can be however the hell you want if anything having it not look like a city in real life would make it more memorable and unique.

  • @grassfur1950
    @grassfur1950 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Classic has officially disappointed his Team and the Community due to his selfish acts. He should've been grateful that he has a team working hard alongside him to help HIM in any way possible just for the sake of getting the shit done, if it wasn't for that game he was playing. Right now October 7, 2024. We would've been in Grusa or Start of the Columban Campaign. As part of the Centauran Community, we Pity you lads on your months and months of work just to be thrown into a bin and start ALL over again. I was actually started to wait more updates when Ascendence's Forest came its released....I was so crazy batshit crazy that i started to wait each day, YES EACH DAY since ROUTE 23 WAS RELEASED I THOUGHT THAT A MONTH WOUND'VE BEEN TALONA. But noo..I was becoming insane but i held myself and trusted patiently. I know you Lot aren't Valve and i wont be waiting for HL3 my whole life. As i am writing this i actually met Scotlad few months back visiting Skottsperch. This is just my rant for my months and waiting. i don't blame you guys not at all. And yes i can also see that what scotlad made in Skottsperch was fucking fantastic, more details and feels more like a polished battlefield the map has its story on itself. This is Grassfer Aka CorporalBon Aquilan Medic ( 10/7/2024 )
    God bless all of you on your Hardwork!

  • @centralhunter9169
    @centralhunter9169 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Strange Roblox developer that won’t unban me from Ca Inc. delays Talona, lives to regret it.

    • @coconutcarl28
      @coconutcarl28 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's what the Yankees want you to believe. This is my favourite book and I am still reading it and the Confederates were not evil. I could go into more detail, but I have important things to do and I risk getting falsely accused of racism.

  • @wut7176
    @wut7176 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    How does one man have so much power?

  • @jeffwaynetripod169
    @jeffwaynetripod169 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    looks like a great martian war map, ngl, but 9 fucking months!? BRO THAT IS ACTUALLY JUST THEY WORKED HARD BRO!!!! WHY REMOVE EVERY SINGLE ATOM FROM THAT SINGLE FUCKING MAP.

  • @ca_1yeah
    @ca_1yeah 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    i can get where classic is coming from with “it not being like a city” cause even without phase 2 and 3, the first part would be the biggest map in the game, which wouldn’t make sense with the player sizes. but still, he didn’t get anyone’s feedback before, and he just scrapped it WITH it being done. Although, Classic is only changing the road layouts and is reusing models (except for a few things which he’s making extra) BUT STILL CLASSIC IS A BAD OWNER

  • @kaigabrieljurado897
    @kaigabrieljurado897 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    [2nd comment] I truly agree with you on putting debris and stuff on those straight Streets. To me, they look clean and nothing were put there. They could've added stuff on the steets too, take the Battle of Berlin scenes from the 2004 movie "Downfall" as an example. I was even thinking of cars on those straight streets there like in Route 23. They re-do everything all because of the straight streets when they could've added debris there and other stuff. I was even imaging a soldier running across those Straight streets running for cover and then enemy soldier shot them before they could do so. The debris and sandbags, potholes, and other stuff would've been cover for the soldiers too.
    Anyways, this is what I think. Thx for reading.

  • @Yourlocalwordrobe
    @Yourlocalwordrobe 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We should've just get Talona as this and get a rework

  • @MajorBulletMagnet
    @MajorBulletMagnet 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Not alot of my work got into Talona, I did a lot of misc props that could've been used but wasn't.
    I made the new tents, both styles, not the best, but I did a shit ton of creative process for models I made. The baber pole took me 2 hours, because I had to learn completely new blender concepts.
    I spent fucking hours on spesific things because I cared about those details, and it took me a month of spam pinging to get contributor role.
    And went to ask for compensation - I realized, most of the shit I made didn't make it in, but what did was still a good 6-12 hours of work. Luh spit in my face and said "I'd do this for free." probably didn't help that I worked through Scott, but the artists were supposed to get paid and they worked through scott, and when GK finally noticed and said "DM me what you made and I'll pay you." I don't have the confidence to ask for compensation anymore.
    I OFFERED to make a Cetus rifle remake, which has been done for months, I worked closely with Cloudy, but the only reason GK found out I finished it - or even that I made it - was because I was working on a different gun for another map and he was like "is this the cetus rifle remake" and I said it'd been done for months.
    Most of the shit I do- on skottsperch atleast- is optimization, taking a 3,000+ vert union and making it into a ~350 vert mesh, on a model thats used CONSTANTLY, so I save maps around 100k verts, but will I get appreciated for that? Nope.
    On talona, I did very minor things, the meats, the chandeller, things extrmeely hard to do in Roblox, and I was always on call to do stuff for Scott.
    But I feel like I don't matter, my work wont get noticed, unlike the art, I lit up so fucking much when you mentioned the tents I made, because thats the last time I can remember in like 3 weeks anyone caring about what I made without me mentioning my feelings about feeling uncared about.
    I swear if my Cetus rifle remake doesn't go through, I dunno what I'm gonna do.

    • @MajorBulletMagnet
      @MajorBulletMagnet 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      things have already been going down hill these last few weeks and this really didn't help.

    • @kyntarish
      @kyntarish 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MajorBulletMagnet omeg is that major bulet magnet

    • @DevinSantos-t2k
      @DevinSantos-t2k 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its just straight disrespect at this point

    • @MajorBulletMagnet
      @MajorBulletMagnet 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DevinSantos-t2k 😭

    • @Scpguard67
      @Scpguard67 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro I feel so god dam bad for you man 😭🙏

  • @centralhunter9169
    @centralhunter9169 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I wonder if there’s an alternative universe, where classic doesn’t find After The Flash as fun, but still plays it a reasonable rate and there’s Talona available and the Eastern Coast update just finished?

  • @ExercitusMaris_EmpireOfCetus
    @ExercitusMaris_EmpireOfCetus 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Classic needs to pay the fucking creators who spent time making this
    "This is unacceptable and people won't stand for this!" - Me
    SCOTLAD 2024

    • @chaosinsurgent1721
      @chaosinsurgent1721 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They've been paid

    • @slent5346
      @slent5346 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@chaosinsurgent1721yeah 20 dollars worth of robux for 10 months

  • @kaigabrieljurado897
    @kaigabrieljurado897 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    We're gonna have it somewhere in 2025 😭😭😭

  • @noobiccubic
    @noobiccubic 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    he did this at times during early 3nd, it isnt that MUCH of a deal as classic will most likely utlize assets that were pre-made

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      From talking with Scotlad, he said that Classic will use very few assets from the version of Talona that's already made.

  • @SuperMarioStarPower99
    @SuperMarioStarPower99 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Remember guys Roland’s prairie came out on like March 3 and then acedens forest came out like a week or 2 after Rolands and talona was being worked on and was supposed to release in April and was delayed once in like late March and THEN because talona was the first time in like early April they had to create route 23 which has to be one of the worst if not THE WORST map in the game so far although they tried to make a rebalance update I don’t even know if it was released but if it did it’s sure not effective because th map is still unbalanced as ever but route 23 came out in June 2nd and meanwhile the city talona is still being worked on then they hired scotlad and some other ppl and they made Skottsperch in a month or 2 and they were working on talona which they made a really good map and they even made playtesting for it and I honestly really liked the map but then this just hit me and now talona is being recreated again we need to ban atf from classic he’s honestly way to addicted now put the guy in rehab for atf and we haven’t even heard barely anything from the vegan campaign who knows if anyone is even still actively working on it and who knows when that gets delayed

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Apparently, Vega is done, but I doubt that.
      If it is done, then Classic should script the Vega maps, and give us that while he works on the new Talona, but he won't because he has no clue on how to manage this shit.

    • @tables8709
      @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@GeneralDelta072I don’t think you would have said that if Classic didn’t do what he did. Right now we’ve only seen a little bit of the first Vega map done, we’ve seen a nearly complete second map, and a third map that hasn’t been worked on yet

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@tables8709 Interview up, watch it.

  • @deez8202
    @deez8202 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Honestly I always have had a ugly thought in the back of the head that Centaura was going down the same path like Wild West. In terms of lack of content, fixing and the big BIG promises that were promised. And speaking of promises remember the amount of times he has said that he will fix his server? Remember the Igor situtation? Yeah the discord was fully responsible for it. But I digress.
    The only difference between wild west and centaura is that wild west's progression update is 4 years late and counting. Whilst Talona is almost a year and counting. Think about it for a second. A somewhat medium sized update that shouldn't be taking so much effort and time is still in development. Because some dev wants to either keep adding new useless things to the update or just neglect the game and milk it for all that it is. If anything Tyridge77 and Classicmasternoob should marry each other. Because they are both terrible devs for the same reasons.
    But then there is also the lack of content to the game. Not only that but bugs and issues that are plagueing each map like Mons planus, kelson village, route 23 and capri valley. Things such as not being bothered to add more tanks or something if the fighting hits around a 40 min mark or something. To prevent the match from going on for hours. Think about how much it would help.
    But yet they pulled an excuse out of their whatever. Because according to them it would ''ruin the unique thing of the game'' which is a bhoolsheize excuse for not bothering to fix the maps. Speaking of the maps. Then there are other issues like the spawnkilling issue in kelson village. Which they havent done anything about at all. Nor the artillery blah blah blah.
    Only around 8 of the 31 or 33 maps are complete and playable. And I do not think that centaura will even get to 33 given the situation that is unfolding right now. And because of the dragged out development. It's a pathetic joke. Even though Talona might have been ''mediocre'' on release if it had not been stalled (they could have fixed some tiny tiny things no big ones). It would still have atleast kept the game alive for a long time. And enough for them to keep working on the other campaigns instead of starving the playerbase to death. And it also would have made Classic more money and the game more yt coverage.
    But no that ain't happening at all. And will never either. The main problem I see with the Centaura and Dead ahead team is that it is so poorly managed. And has unfortunately struggled with it for a while now. I think it would have been better off if there were more people up on top who could have more of a say and care more about the development and marginals than it just all being in the hands of classic.
    I hope that he will actually learn from his mistakes when he realizes that people arent that happy when you stab them in the back all of a sudden and then leave you. Sorry I just had to get this out.

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The thing that makes me the most angry and confused is the fact of road is not straight, so redo entire project solo.

  • @Scpguard67
    @Scpguard67 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    All I hope is classic stops and apologises for trying to scrap all their work but that is like a 2% chance of happening so for now all we can do is pray to god dam god that he doesn't go fully through with this 😭🙏

  • @eniascika3050
    @eniascika3050 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Isn’t this his world?
    This isn’t earths timeline
    He doesn’t have to be realistic with the time
    Maybe cars are really common now thus straight roads
    But idk about the history cars at this time but still I’m just saying

    • @deez8202
      @deez8202 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They were ''somewhat'' common back in the early 1910s however it all varies between each countries especially european ones.

  • @centralhunter9169
    @centralhunter9169 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What do you mean by rework? Does rework mean they are starting from scratch?

  • @AustroHungarianEmpire1867
    @AustroHungarianEmpire1867 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Damn. Why do I still look up to classic?

  • @zovvnn5952
    @zovvnn5952 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    1v1 in grave/digger trust trust

  • @centralhunter9169
    @centralhunter9169 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I thought you chose not to write the ending of “The Knight of Talona”, because his fate is that he gets blown up by an Antarean tank?

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I said I thought about doing a second version, the one that was in this video.

  • @vertin3987
    @vertin3987 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    clearly disrespect

  • @yahyaahmed8422
    @yahyaahmed8422 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm a builder and I think classic is right.
    The town hall and park is out of place with the tall buildings in the back Ground (like you see in the distance)
    And the side roads don't lead anywhere. And yes he couldn've added she'll craters or rubble, but Classic wants his commity to get immersed in a city or a field with mass death and destruction.
    I understand classic's you know, his idea to remake tanlona for the 3rd fuckin time, but I don't think he would remake EVERYTHING, but making roads which make sense for a city.
    But no I don't think classic is going to waste like 5 more months of his life for all of the buildings, cars, craters, bar, tree, sand bag and tanks since he thought that it didn't look nice.
    But still the pain, of not even seeing tanlona's destruction makes me broken..

  • @natus1
    @natus1 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Tbh the map looks fine to me it doesn’t really need any remakes and the town hall looks city like

  • @natus1
    @natus1 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When bro speaks at 11:35 I feel like I’m classic if he is watching this vid

  • @natus1
    @natus1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Building for the sake of building” WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

    • @natus1
      @natus1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1:39 that ain’t even accurate to talona

  • @tables8709
    @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just saying, the first time, they didn’t scrap it to remake it, they added a new map because the map was taking too long, still 10 months of development is gone
    EDIT: YOU DONT KNOW WHO DUCK IS?

  • @antiipathic
    @antiipathic 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    deleted my comment due to it being resolved

  • @tables8709
    @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My second comment to say, first of all, Classic quit his ATF group, those atf comments are inside jokes. Also you get really fired up lol

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Why wouldn't I? A Game dev is using his builders almost like jokes, not using what they come up with, for what? To redo all of it himself?

  • @tables8709
    @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The more and more I watch this video the more I want to get fired up, you can’t just passive aggressively attack Scot because of *his own decision*, remember Talona wasn’t being worked on every single day, sure that does t discount the work put in (I do wish the poster designers get placed in the map again) but you’re being ridiculous. I won’t make another comment if I don’t find something worse than this horrid take

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      One, Scotlad did nothing wrong, I'm not attacking him, he's fine, everyone who worked on Talona is fine.
      Two, Whenever you ignore your devs, and they get to the point of being done with a map, and you proceed to say, "Trash, let me cook, I'll make a new one." That is a shitty thing to say.

    • @tables8709
      @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GeneralDelta072 You say Scotlad is find but you say that he doesn’t have to listen to classic as if he was his overlord and Scot was a pawn. Scot made his decision that he was comfortable with Classics choice. You more or less use him as another way to attack Classic, at the end of the day, all of this falls down to opinion, over how a city looks like in a video game, I’ll wait for it to be finished and I won’t get upset

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@tables8709 I'm currently uploading an interview I did with him in his server, you can tell me if all of this is just me or not whenever it's uploaded.

    • @tables8709
      @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@GeneralDelta072 that’d actually be nice if you can get that uploaded, we don’t really know a lot about what he thinks besides that one part of his video (I’ll still admit you’re in the wrong with that point there) but if he does think that it was bad and Classic is being a dick (especially with that whole money thing) then I’ll admit I was wrong, I don’t have to be correct always

  • @tables8709
    @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stay patient, Roland’s took 2 weeks, you also have no idea of what the beautiful design of a city is supposed to look like, ngl kind of disrespected architects

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      No, there is no excuse you can make to say that Classic is in the right for getting rid of all of this stuff.

    • @tables8709
      @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GeneralDelta072 There is not much I can say here that doesn’t have an opinion I can’t really argue for, like I could say that “I actually didn’t like the Talona town hall based off my own city and other North American city’s it was out of place” or “The only city’s that are vertical are ones that hug a highway” but it wouldn’t matter, I draw the line at attacking scot

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tables8709 I never attacked him, where did I do that? Tell me.

    • @tables8709
      @tables8709 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GeneralDelta072 I explained my reasoning in another comment, you attacked Scots decision of simply saying not to attack anyone on the video when you got to that point in scots video

    • @YarIsGoober
      @YarIsGoober 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Stay patient, Roland's took 2 weeks" do you realize Roland is all mostly terrain with little any parts when talona has 0 terrain and all parts?

  • @arcsoned1112
    @arcsoned1112 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its not thst deep 😭

    • @Irishism
      @Irishism 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      8 month working process and multiple stages, then got reworked again although it's finished, because Classic/GK doesn't like the map layout and it's would be polished but he want to reworked it COMPLETELY instead polished the existing layouts I think people have right to be mad

    • @eniascika3050
      @eniascika3050 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh it’s a way diffrent earth it ain’t
      Earth but big and new landmasses they can develop differently then us

    • @Irishism
      @Irishism 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@eniascika3050
      We are talking about the game's one of map being delayed and later reworked again, not the lore itself.

  • @RECHARGED77
    @RECHARGED77 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    holy calm down

    • @GeneralDelta072
      @GeneralDelta072  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      8 Months of work, a finished project, and he wanted it gone because of roads. I think most people have a right to be mad.