As much fun as us men have playing with tractors and equipment as far as trying to actually make money one has to be a good manager and many of us know this if we grew up on a farm. But good video with straight up common sense thinking is the reality of real world money making. Work hard , love God, Country and family and don't forget the ham sandwich 🙏🤠🇺🇸💪
By the time you include time sharpening blades, costs to maintain equipment and equipment failures, and insurance, you're barely making wages. Well done video and break down sir. I wish your business much success.
Nice video 👍🏼. It’s interesting seeing the price difference based on location. $70/hr after expenses is good money where I’m from. I have a side hustle with a 25hp John Deere and make a good profit charging $45-50/hr.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. A excavator is only 110$ a hr here. My dad worked for the road and bridge department of a small county and never made $20 a hr. He didn't retire until about 2004. I think a grador operator makes 24$ now.
I think something people dont think about is the cost of the equipment. Tractor, truck, trailer, attachments. You got quite a bit of money sunk into that. Equipment doesnt last forever so you can basically figure you will be replacing 1/5th of it every year. Sure some of it will last longer, but the longer it lasts the more you pay to fix it typically. On the flip side you will sell or trade most equipment eventually, but again you will not get anywhere near what you spent on it. You made after taxes and gas roughly $300 that day. If you do that 5 days week 50 weeks a year you will be making 75k. Sounds great until you consider you still have to pay out maintenance, insurance for both equipment and health, and either vehicle payments or put some back for buying the next piece of equipment. I will bet you dont get 250 working days a year either. My guess is you have long stretches where you are really busy, but you also have entire days that go by dealing with equipment issues, doing estimates on jobs, or simply being delayed due to weather. On the other hand if you get a job that takes multiple days you can turn those $300 days into $500 days. Enjoyed the video.
I bet you made less than $20 per hour after considering the cost of equipment. Which should include payment, interest, maintenance, and upkeep. Then you need to calculate how much it will cost to replace the equipment down the road, say every eight years. This would all keep keep the image of success and a leader in the area in which you work. If you don't charge enough, you will eventually be cutting corners and not be legit with the latest and greatest equipment. There's always that one guy that gets new machines and doesn't charge what they should be charging. It's a never ending cycle. An attorney once told me, "Your only worth what you charge."
What part of western North Carolina are you in? I own a tractor business in GA and the wife and I want to end up in the banner elk sugar mountain area. It's so beautiful up there!
How steep is the hill you can mow across... NOT up and down but safely going across? There are phone apps that can show you the incline (clinometers). It would really help me choose a tractor to know that.
Something I do is I call the customer when I leave that starts their time. When I'm done and loaded back on the trailer that ships their time. If you want to pay me $50 per hour for me to drive I'll do it.
Great video! What do you normally take out of your hourly rate for machine repair and replacement and also retirement for yourself? I’m just looking for hypothetical numbers.
I have a field mowing business in California, it’s good business but to make it work especially the busy season you have to work seven days a week for about four months and if something breaks you have to stay up all night fixing it to get to the next job I have two tractors I run John Deere both cab tractors my units are from 66 hp to90 hp I use boom flail mower with hammer blades also 8 foot flail mower with Y blade and I have different rotary mower‘s which a lot of folks called bush hog in different sizes I have one specific that I rebuild every six months it gets beat up real bad but it’s very useful especially in fields I know I’m going to hit rocks even though we’re not supposed to hit rocks if they’re there I find them every time, your tractor looks like a good tractor I had Kubota it’s just my dealer I didn’t get along with them so I went to John Deere and I’m very happy with John Deere, My average day is about 14 hours if I’m not doing three or four small jobs in one day I’m doing large acreage I also run a 12 foot bat wing, the worst part of all of it most folks don’t realize how hard we work in our tractors all they see is us driving them, I probably do over 250 jobs a year and I can easily put 700 tractor hours per year. kudos to you and wish you the best with your business. Lots of caffeine gets me through those long days.
i will make this comment and it doesn’t go everyone bc everywhere is different i run a massey 6713 with a 15ft batwing bushwhacker for the highway department and the slopes are very steep sometimes for us and instead of using those weights you use we use the typical nose weights as i call em and spacers on the back tires to give the tractor a wider profile to combat over turning and they do slide down the slope but with it being wider it does help and another thing the counties around where i live do offer contracts to locals with tractors and bush hogs to mix the county roads for a nice big chunk of change
Can you give an idea on a startup cost for a business like this? I’m a Army veteran looking at starting a bush hog business. Also, could you share maintenance and all insurance costs? Thanks for a great video !
Investment depends on what you're willing to go into debt for, or what your start-up budget is. You can buy a decent Ford 8N tractor and a used bush hog for less than $1500. Buy a used trailer and a 1500 pickup to haul it. Maintenance is pretty cheap if you do it yourself. Or, buy a new $25k Korean tractor and $2k new bush hog, and have $400+ payments a month. My 85 year old neighbor tilled gardens and bush hogged for people with old tractors, and a beat up trailer for 40 years. He didn't have the prettiest looking equipment, but he always had work. Never advertised; just word of mouth and regular, yearly customers. He just packed it in this year because of his age. Decide what you want, and what you're willing to pay for it, then do honest work, would be my suggestion. My son has his own lawn service. He started four years ago with my zero turn Cub Cadet. Now he has a $14k John Deere mower, two trailers, and three pickup trucks that he paid for on his own. He bought used and pays his own insurance. He has made a good name for himself with honesty and hard work. He tried working for The Man at a couple jobs, but decided being his own boss was more satisfying. Good luck with your endeavor, and thank you for your service!!
You forgot maintenance on that tractor. A hydraulic fluid and filter change will set you back several hundred dollars. Super UDT is not cheap, DO NOT use anything else, trust me! Then, there’s motor oil and filter. Mine has two air filters…🤬🤬. Fuel filter…. Grease…. Diesel treatment…. Wear and tear. PTO shafts wear out… blades wear and get tore up. Then, don’t try to buy parts…. Paying a friend to pull you out when you get buried in the mud…. Yep, I’ve had my tractor buried and got my truck stuck trying to pull out the tractor…. Yeah, that field was perfectly dry…. To top it all off, there’s a rapidly growing number of scumbags that won’t pay you! Money up front!!! Cash before I unload the tractor or I go home and they’re put on a list That I don’t answer the phone from! Yep, it’s sad that people are that dishonest!
@@midwestbd7144 that’s because $50 an hour for a 25hp tractor brush hogging is kinda steep. Like really steep. I charge a little more than that an hour with a 4 hour minimum. With my 71 hp tractor, I can literally do 3-4 times more than u an hour. Not just because u have a tractor and mower can u charge what the bigger tractors charge. Size matters. Way more efficient p
This just gives the general public a real eye opener on why contractors have to charge the rates that we do.Wait till you see the cost of keeping this rig on the road per year.
When I figured my production cost, I'm going to stay local with no truck and trailer. Thank you for pointing out what to take in consideration for tractor work. I tried a few years ago with a 30 hp Kubota and only cleared about $27 per hour. That included turning it in on my income tax. Now I just don't charge anything if it is a neighbor a block away, but since I retired I seem to be getting more calls and I am rethinking this tractor business. . Thanks again for the video. All in all it's not a pretty picture for me to make any money in my small town .
Yea, but how much of your income is cash? Cash is king. You're making way more money than you are coping too. Most people who have similar to your equipment can make a very good living. Try working 8-12 hrs a day. Its what you're willing to put into it.
As long as you make enough to have enough, then you’ll be alright 😎love the vids my man...gotta get that hustle on. Gonna start a small side business for my high school son...you’ve helped a ton 🤘🤘💪
I charge a flat rate of $250 per hour for forestry mulcher...dozer $175 per hour... excavation work $250 per hour...bush hogging $150 per hour. Sounds like a lot of money, but my equipment does a lot of work in one hour. I pay operators $45-55 per hour. In my area of Texas, I'm considered very reasonable price.
this was great, I have a co-worker I have known 45 years, she wants me to start bush hogging her place once a month as soon as grass grows, 8 acres, she is clueless how long it took her EX to do it.
That's over triple what I make per hour as a police officer in NC working 12 hour shifts lol. Sounds like a better gig to me haha. Thanks for the transparency!
I get paid $53/hr to work for someone else and make them profit. I have to manage the people doing the work and find the work so the owners can make more money. I then have to take out taxes, insurance, etc with that money. College educated and work in a professional field. It’s not fun at all. Not the best money out there but I think I’d take brush hogging over what I deal with on a daily basis. Yeah I know there is more to it than that but as a gateway it doesn’t sound like a bad deal. Countdown has begun. Two to three months and my mini excavation business will kick off.
With fuel costs being double from when this video was made, it would now profit about 37$ per hour. And he did not include insurance cost, so actually less than that. Fuel cost in a SOB!
You need to stop paying yourself. Your company needs to pay you, so you can lower your taxes. Talk to a CPA please brother! There's no way you should be paying 30%!
Hay man I'm 16 my dad has a 58 horse power kabota and a 6 foot brush hog I'm wanting to get into doing brush hogging on the side and kinda for fun but I don't know what exactly how to get into it if you can please help me out
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I think I would have charged my business $1.25 per mile only. A job 30 miles away costs me about $75.00. I charge myself $20.00 per hour of operation for escrow towards maintaining and replacing equipment. I net an average of $20.00 per hour.
"If your doing it on the side, i bet your not paying or reporting your taxes"......wink, wink. IRS has entered the comments section....😂 great video and informative.
Around me for brush hogging if your anything over $65 and hour you will never get a job and that's with actual companies who are insured. That job you got $550 would have been only $260 ish in my area.
You can go broke sitting at home. Raise your rates and charge for travel time just like to do operating the equipment. Don’t charge by the hour, charge by the job. Have a half day number and a full day number.
Cost (fuel, material, disposal) Insurance Maintenance and repairs Vehicle depreciation Registration annually Mortgage/ rent place to keep equipment Business expense (accounting, advertising, etc) What other expenses am i forgetting?
Mileage to and fro... Here in NYS its approx. 56cents per mile.. which over the course of a year you can max out 15K miles.. which is a great write off
Yea but thats most of the businesses anyways we all get fucked by the taxes no matter what business you got so in reality we dont make a whole lot more than a 9-5 after qll them damn expenses the thing is we have more freedom of doing what we want when we want
Been watching your channel for a few months. Just getting started, bought a new LX3310 with a few attachments. Flailmower land bride stump grinder rototiller and high flow skid steer stump grinder. Can't afford the skid steer yet. Have 2 buddies who are retired and have them tho First time out I get 7 8 acres land clearing. Have to rent a Bobcat T770 forestry mulcher. 😆 Great channel
How come you dont charge by the acre? I feel like that would make things easier for you if you needed to use a smaller mower or you have a ton of work and needed to knock it out real quick and you use a larger batwing.
Thanks for video. I do Brushhoging for my business. It is close to 90% of what I do. Cutting trees and food plots make up the rest. Do you charge a delivery fee than by the hour? Or do you just eyeball and give a price that way? I do both. On bigger jobs Over 20 acres I don’t charge delivery.
Many good points. always enjoy your videos. Of course by the time you pay your truck, trailer, tractor and mower, you personally make even much less than that. Granted some of what you pay for the equipment goes to paying off that equipment or to buy new equipment etc down the road, but it's still money that you can't buy groceries or pay bills with.
Love the channel. I know the bush hog is versatile but if theirs no hazards like stumps, ets. Would a flail mower not leave a better finished result. I understand that hoggin a property once a year may be a reason why you use a brush hog. Just curious as to your thoughts on it. Keep up the awesome work. Love the content.
I have a 2016 M7060 and bush hog my property with a Woods 15’ batwing. This tractor is a beast and has no problem pulling up and down the hills of TN at about 5mph. Time is money.
And thats some good money be thankful brother that GOD lets you do what you do you cant make big bucks all the time like 1 job you said you made 1800 bucks a day ,you should be able to do small jobs, but love your videos and thank GOD for everything you have everyday if it wasnt for what JESUS did for us on the cross we wouldnt even be here keep them videos coming
Can you go over your setup of the brush hog in terms of height of cut and angle of mower? I struggle to get a clean cut. Also I still have the solid back cover on mine thinking it would mulch better but it still clumps up on one side. Do you use chains on the back or leave it open? I set mine level side to side and about an inch lower in the front then back and cut about 6” high? Thanks
Anyone that runs a business like that you don't really run it to take home a high W-2 salary so I think the tax thing is very misleading you just buy more equipment and expand next year or pay down some of your equipment and you right off all the depreciation. Plus you can use all your equipment in your personal life and you can barter with other people That's what I do I only pay myself like 40 grand over the table but I have enough equipment and property I would have to make $150,000 a year gross in a W-2 job which I did before I started this.
Exactly! Also, deprecation is almost never mentioned. That tractor probably cost $60-70,000; if you assume three thousand hours of completely trouble-free use, that’s $20-25/hr extra just for depreciation. And that’s a very conservative number.
Hello Sir loved your video on how to start a bush hog business. I was interested in starting my own business. I’m retired and would like to make a little cash on the side. I live in Mississippi Desoto county. Any advise on what size tractor, trailer, and truck I should look into. I probably need start with used equipment. Any help in this direction would be much appreciated.
At least a 50 hp tractor with 6 foot mower. 1 ton truck and 20 foot trailer (I would go ahead and get a 10 ton trailer to allow for being able to rent and haul Skidsteer or excavator with mowers or mulchers
And that was working by myself and customer was very happy. Don’t try and explain to customers who want to pay per hour. Only give a price for the job never and I repeat never work a job agreeing to pay per hour. Customers would love that just clock in and work all day young man 😂😂
dude this frutrates me even further 😂 how does anyone make any kind of money to be able to buy a tractor before you can even start this type of work in the 1st place
Credit... Most companies have specials going on where its nothing down and 0% for 7 or 8 years on equipment. I bought a dump trailer for my business, nothing down and out the door I went with a trailer. Its been making its own payments by the work it does for me.
This was very helpful thanks started almost a year ago and got my llc 3months ago doing lawn & landscape but plan on changing to big work like bush hogging and land clearing
You sir are correct......it's a business. I run mine at 100 per hour......that's the rate. I don't do anything heavy, small Deere and 4ft on back. Most the jobs come off my landcare business.......and they complain about price. I'm nice and give them numbers of folks that will do it cheaper all the time. Most the jobs I do are really just tall grass and weeds. Yes I'm picky, but we also trim out fence post and ditch banks. I'm more of a weed hogged than brush hogged. Stack that cash brother, something gonna break!
I want to do that so bad but I can’t afford the skidsteer and bushhog ied love to do this to make my wife and I more money we don’t make that much on s.s so that’s why ied love to own a skidsteer and bushhog
Im ok with this. I usually break down my expenses within a couple days of a new piece of equipment. Overall, i just need to cover the equipment bill in the end. I have other means for income
Hard to beat an M series Kubota, I like the cast centers. I would like to have had them but I added 3 sets of factory weights to mine it’s around 990lbs. Much like you with the steep ground the weight helps. Enjoyed the video!
When factoring in the servicing on the tractor, the truck and trailer, say per month, in addition to your food throughout the day I'm sure your self insured medically. That drops your take home significantly. But at the end of it all, if you're happy doing what you do you're really not working, you are driving up and down the road enjoying your life.
Very nice of you to advise and inform! God will keep blessing you and your family!!! I wish you all All of God’s Blessings Great Health, Happiness and Prosperity!
Awesome tractor! My grandpa bought a Kubota M8540 4x4 open station and with loader for his farm/cabin up in Clinton county Pennsylvania. Which he bought used back in 2014 and but he wouldn't let anyone else run it even though I taught him how to run it. But he passed away back in February last year and now I wish he would have bought one with a factory cab like yours instead because the bugs and dust drive me nuts.
Really informative video. Appreciate the upload. I had a question about the bush hog. Can't you raise up the three points and then sit the bush hog down while it is still running?
Thank you for the breakdown in costs. I know I’m late to this video but I’m new to your channel. I would love to see a future video of mowing across a steep grade with some details to help us newbies. I’m 57 years old but new to mowing on grade since buying land in Tennessee. I’ve only mowed on flat ground but I have ran some horrendous tractor accidents working in fire department and ambulance services.
You are one of very few people on utube that is willing to discuss what they charge. Very informative, thank you 👍
I’m here for y’all. Thanks for watching
@@DigginLife21 im glad have good and the best credit at my stihl and my kubota dealer wich i have kubota and stihl credit account at the dealers
Pto driven turf tiger at 6 inches is our brush hog for that.
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As much fun as us men have playing with tractors and equipment as far as trying to actually make money one has to be a good manager and many of us know this if we grew up on a farm. But good video with straight up common sense thinking is the reality of real world money making. Work hard , love God, Country and family and don't forget the ham sandwich 🙏🤠🇺🇸💪
By the time you include time sharpening blades, costs to maintain equipment and equipment failures, and insurance, you're barely making wages. Well done video and break down sir. I wish your business much success.
Love how you break everything down for people thinking about getting into it!
Nice video 👍🏼. It’s interesting seeing the price difference based on location. $70/hr after expenses is good money where I’m from. I have a side hustle with a 25hp John Deere and make a good profit charging $45-50/hr.
Thats exactly what I was thinking. A excavator is only 110$ a hr here.
My dad worked for the road and bridge department of a small county and never made $20 a hr. He didn't retire until about 2004.
I think a grador operator makes 24$ now.
I think something people dont think about is the cost of the equipment. Tractor, truck, trailer, attachments. You got quite a bit of money sunk into that. Equipment doesnt last forever so you can basically figure you will be replacing 1/5th of it every year. Sure some of it will last longer, but the longer it lasts the more you pay to fix it typically. On the flip side you will sell or trade most equipment eventually, but again you will not get anywhere near what you spent on it.
You made after taxes and gas roughly $300 that day. If you do that 5 days week 50 weeks a year you will be making 75k. Sounds great until you consider you still have to pay out maintenance, insurance for both equipment and health, and either vehicle payments or put some back for buying the next piece of equipment. I will bet you dont get 250 working days a year either. My guess is you have long stretches where you are really busy, but you also have entire days that go by dealing with equipment issues, doing estimates on jobs, or simply being delayed due to weather. On the other hand if you get a job that takes multiple days you can turn those $300 days into $500 days.
Enjoyed the video.
Thanks for honesty and transparency
Much appreciated honesty in a world of dis honsest business
Very good information!!! Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure!
I bet you made less than $20 per hour after considering the cost of equipment. Which should include payment, interest, maintenance, and upkeep. Then you need to calculate how much it will cost to replace the equipment down the road, say every eight years.
This would all keep keep the image of success and a leader in the area in which you work.
If you don't charge enough, you will eventually be cutting corners and not be legit with the latest and greatest equipment.
There's always that one guy that gets new machines and doesn't charge what they should be charging. It's a never ending cycle.
An attorney once told me, "Your only worth what you charge."
What part of western North Carolina are you in? I own a tractor business in GA and the wife and I want to end up in the banner elk sugar mountain area. It's so beautiful up there!
Black mountain
Very Helpful thanks a lot man!
How steep is the hill you can mow across... NOT up and down but safely going across? There are phone apps that can show you the incline (clinometers). It would really help me choose a tractor to know that.
What do you think is better to start a business with, a track loader or a tractor?
Im new at this. Thanks for the info..Ive been short changing myself!!
Something I do is I call the customer when I leave that starts their time. When I'm done and loaded back on the trailer that ships their time. If you want to pay me $50 per hour for me to drive I'll do it.
what do you mean by shipping time?..
@@bradley.loveland sorry. That stops their time
Does your truck trailer combo for require a cdl?
Yes
How do you fill the tires with water?
Great video! What do you normally take out of your hourly rate for machine repair and replacement and also retirement for yourself? I’m just looking for hypothetical numbers.
I try to live on 30% of total income
Good analysis. This is the kind of thing they should show kids in high school to introduce them to how business works
I say it still beats working for someone else...
Hi , thanks for the break down of costs to run your business . Everyone has to learn to manage costs. Keep the information videos coming.
MyOrchardVideos I’ll keep making vids as long as I feel like they help folks
I have a field mowing business in California, it’s good business but to make it work especially the busy season you have to work seven days a week for about four months and if something breaks you have to stay up all night fixing it to get to the next job I have two tractors I run John Deere both cab tractors my units are from 66 hp to90 hp I use boom flail mower with hammer blades also 8 foot flail mower with Y blade and I have different rotary mower‘s which a lot of folks called bush hog in different sizes I have one specific that I rebuild every six months it gets beat up real bad but it’s very useful especially in fields I know I’m going to hit rocks even though we’re not supposed to hit rocks if they’re there I find them every time, your tractor looks like a good tractor I had Kubota it’s just my dealer I didn’t get along with them so I went to John Deere and I’m very happy with John Deere, My average day is about 14 hours if I’m not doing three or four small jobs in one day I’m doing large acreage I also run a 12 foot bat wing, the worst part of all of it most folks don’t realize how hard we work in our tractors all they see is us driving them, I probably do over 250 jobs a year and I can easily put 700 tractor hours per year. kudos to you and wish you the best with your business. Lots of caffeine gets me through those long days.
i will make this comment and it doesn’t go everyone bc everywhere is different i run a massey 6713 with a 15ft batwing bushwhacker for the highway department and the slopes are very steep sometimes for us and instead of using those weights you use we use the typical nose weights as i call em and spacers on the back tires to give the tractor a wider profile to combat over turning and they do slide down the slope but with it being wider it does help and another thing the counties around where i live do offer contracts to locals with tractors and bush hogs to mix the county roads for a nice big chunk of change
Great job and thanks for all the business advice you give. It is appreciated my friend
Michael Hartzell it’s my pleasure
I appreciate how you talk in real numbers......
Can you give an idea on a startup cost for a business like this? I’m a Army veteran looking at starting a bush hog business. Also, could you share maintenance and all insurance costs? Thanks for a great video !
Investment depends on what you're willing to go into debt for, or what your start-up budget is.
You can buy a decent Ford 8N tractor and a used bush hog for less than $1500. Buy a used trailer and a 1500 pickup to haul it. Maintenance is pretty cheap if you do it yourself.
Or, buy a new $25k Korean tractor and $2k new bush hog, and have $400+ payments a month. My 85 year old neighbor tilled gardens and bush hogged for people with old tractors, and a beat up trailer for 40 years. He didn't have the prettiest looking equipment, but he always had work. Never advertised; just word of mouth and regular, yearly customers. He just packed it in this year because of his age.
Decide what you want, and what you're willing to pay for it, then do honest work, would be my suggestion. My son has his own lawn service. He started four years ago with my zero turn Cub Cadet. Now he has a $14k John Deere mower, two trailers, and three pickup trucks that he paid for on his own. He bought used and pays his own insurance. He has made a good name for himself with honesty and hard work. He tried working for The Man at a couple jobs, but decided being his own boss was more satisfying.
Good luck with your endeavor, and thank you for your service!!
You forgot maintenance on that tractor. A hydraulic fluid and filter change will set you back several hundred dollars. Super UDT is not cheap, DO NOT use anything else, trust me! Then, there’s motor oil and filter. Mine has two air filters…🤬🤬. Fuel filter…. Grease…. Diesel treatment…. Wear and tear. PTO shafts wear out… blades wear and get tore up. Then, don’t try to buy parts…. Paying a friend to pull you out when you get buried in the mud…. Yep, I’ve had my tractor buried and got my truck stuck trying to pull out the tractor…. Yeah, that field was perfectly dry…. To top it all off, there’s a rapidly growing number of scumbags that won’t pay you! Money up front!!! Cash before I unload the tractor or I go home and they’re put on a list That I don’t answer the phone from! Yep, it’s sad that people are that dishonest!
I just spent a weekend trying to find someone to bush hog my small less than 2 acres and your video explains why no one wants to do it.
kubota dealers accully can rent there kubota tractors and attachments out wich kubotas are only 1 branded dealers does it
They will do it,are you willing to pay the price?
@@northeasterndirtandpropert7974 i accully looked at a new kubota M6-131 with 131hp with loader and bucket and forks wich wasnt bad price for $68,900
I would brush hog all day with my 25hp tractor but no one wants to pay $50/hr.
@@midwestbd7144 that’s because $50 an hour for a 25hp tractor brush hogging is kinda steep. Like really steep. I charge a little more than that an hour with a 4 hour minimum. With my 71 hp tractor, I can literally do 3-4 times more than u an hour. Not just because u have a tractor and mower can u charge what the bigger tractors charge. Size matters. Way more efficient p
Your channel rocks!
So humble and honest, it really shows how work and life actually works out.
Also if you do this as a business you can have write offs, fuel, parts, insurance, etc etc but you have to do it legally
This just gives the general public a real eye opener on why contractors have to charge the rates that we do.Wait till you see the cost of keeping this rig on the road per year.
When I figured my production cost, I'm going to stay local with no truck and trailer. Thank you for pointing out what to take in consideration for tractor work. I tried a few years ago with a 30 hp Kubota and only cleared about $27 per hour. That included turning it in on my income tax. Now I just don't charge anything if it is a neighbor a block away, but since I retired I seem to be getting more calls and I am rethinking this tractor business. . Thanks again for the video. All in all it's not a pretty picture for me to make any money in my small town .
Yea, but how much of your income is cash? Cash is king. You're making way more money than you are coping too. Most people who have similar to your equipment can make a very good living. Try working 8-12 hrs a day. Its what you're willing to put into it.
Good video bud. Way to keep it real. Liked the time lapse
As long as you make enough to have enough, then you’ll be alright 😎love the vids my man...gotta get that hustle on. Gonna start a small side business for my high school son...you’ve helped a ton 🤘🤘💪
I charge a flat rate of $250 per hour for forestry mulcher...dozer $175 per hour... excavation work $250 per hour...bush hogging $150 per hour. Sounds like a lot of money, but my equipment does a lot of work in one hour. I pay operators $45-55 per hour. In my area of Texas, I'm considered very reasonable price.
this was great, I have a co-worker I have known 45 years, she wants me to start bush hogging her place once a month as soon as grass grows, 8 acres, she is clueless how long it took her EX to do it.
That's over triple what I make per hour as a police officer in NC working 12 hour shifts lol. Sounds like a better gig to me haha. Thanks for the transparency!
Not to mention the truck cost 100k to replace and has a service life
I get paid $53/hr to work for someone else and make them profit. I have to manage the people doing the work and find the work so the owners can make more money. I then have to take out taxes, insurance, etc with that money. College educated and work in a professional field. It’s not fun at all.
Not the best money out there but I think I’d take brush hogging over what I deal with on a daily basis. Yeah I know there is more to it than that but as a gateway it doesn’t sound like a bad deal. Countdown has begun. Two to three months and my mini excavation business will kick off.
With fuel costs being double from when this video was made, it would now profit about 37$ per hour. And he did not include insurance cost, so actually less than that. Fuel cost in a SOB!
You need to stop paying yourself. Your company needs to pay you, so you can lower your taxes. Talk to a CPA please brother! There's no way you should be paying 30%!
Hay man I'm 16 my dad has a 58 horse power kabota and a 6 foot brush hog I'm wanting to get into doing brush hogging on the side and kinda for fun but I don't know what exactly how to get into it if you can please help me out
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Ask him for mercy.
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Ezekiel 18:20 -
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I think I would have charged my business $1.25 per mile only.
A job 30 miles away costs me about $75.00. I charge myself $20.00 per hour of operation for escrow towards maintaining and replacing equipment. I net an average of $20.00 per hour.
"If your doing it on the side, i bet your not paying or reporting your taxes"......wink, wink.
IRS has entered the comments section....😂 great video and informative.
Around me for brush hogging if your anything over $65 and hour you will never get a job and that's with actual companies who are insured. That job you got $550 would have been only $260 ish in my area.
You can go broke sitting at home. Raise your rates and charge for travel time just like to do operating the equipment. Don’t charge by the hour, charge by the job. Have a half day number and a full day number.
Great video. So I’m assuming you did this person a favor to make a point video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Cost (fuel, material, disposal)
Insurance
Maintenance and repairs
Vehicle depreciation
Registration annually
Mortgage/ rent place to keep equipment
Business expense (accounting, advertising, etc)
What other expenses am i forgetting?
You got the biggest ones
Mileage to and fro... Here in NYS its approx. 56cents per mile.. which over the course of a year you can max out 15K miles.. which is a great write off
Yea but thats most of the businesses anyways we all get fucked by the taxes no matter what business you got so in reality we dont make a whole lot more than a 9-5 after qll them damn expenses the thing is we have more freedom of doing what we want when we want
Thank you greatly for these videos. Props for kinda showing us your books too ! Few will do that.
Been watching your channel for a few months. Just getting started, bought a new LX3310 with a few attachments. Flailmower land bride stump grinder rototiller and high flow skid steer stump grinder. Can't afford the skid steer yet. Have 2 buddies who are retired and have them tho
First time out I get 7 8 acres land clearing. Have to rent a Bobcat T770 forestry mulcher. 😆
Great channel
$73 an hour to bring $150,000 worth of equipment to their place..
At $73 an hour most Americans could afford to work only 2 days a week. I would have to say you are out of touch with most people.
Coming from someone who raises their own beef cattle, it killed me watching you cut that nice green grass lol. Awesome video man 🇺🇸
I would’ve charged $750-$1,000 for that job in my area….
How come you dont charge by the acre? I feel like that would make things easier for you if you needed to use a smaller mower or you have a ton of work and needed to knock it out real quick and you use a larger batwing.
Thanks for video. I do Brushhoging for my business. It is close to 90% of what I do. Cutting trees and food plots make up the rest. Do you charge a delivery fee than by the hour? Or do you just eyeball and give a price that way? I do both. On bigger jobs Over 20 acres I don’t charge delivery.
I prefer to price by the job. I just add in for the travel
Add in medical insurance, retirement plans, and other business expenses and there’s almost no profit left.
forgot the price of the tractor , its implements, maintenance cost of the vehicles. possibly other operating cost etc.. .
Many good points. always enjoy your videos. Of course by the time you pay your truck, trailer, tractor and mower, you personally make even much less than that. Granted some of what you pay for the equipment goes to paying off that equipment or to buy new equipment etc down the road, but it's still money that you can't buy groceries or pay bills with.
True story!!! Thanks for commenting🙏🏻
good job. apreciate your honesty and common sense. thanks be safe.
Love the channel. I know the bush hog is versatile but if theirs no hazards like stumps, ets. Would a flail mower not leave a better finished result. I understand that hoggin a property once a year may be a reason why you use a brush hog. Just curious as to your thoughts on it. Keep up the awesome work. Love the content.
Awesome advice!! Thanks for be as honest as you can and great details in your videos!
My pleasure!
I have a 2016 M7060 and bush hog my property with a Woods 15’ batwing. This tractor is a beast and has no problem pulling up and down the hills of TN at about 5mph. Time is money.
Keep it going my friend!!! Kubota is where it’s at
And thats some good money be thankful brother that GOD lets you do what you do you cant make big bucks all the time like 1 job you said you made 1800 bucks a day ,you should be able to do small jobs, but love your videos and thank GOD for everything you have everyday if it wasnt for what JESUS did for us on the cross we wouldnt even be here keep them videos coming
I'm still looking for that friend who is wanting to invest/give me money.
I'm looking at 100 per hour or price per job...in NY
Can you go over your setup of the brush hog in terms of height of cut and angle of mower? I struggle to get a clean cut. Also I still have the solid back cover on mine thinking it would mulch better but it still clumps up on one side. Do you use chains on the back or leave it open? I set mine level side to side and about an inch lower in the front then back and cut about 6” high? Thanks
Mowing is good for keeping you in cash when you are starting out!
Thank you for the break down. Hopefully with that profit you don't have a break down
True story
My dream tractor is to have a front loader 😍
Thank you for your honesty.
Anyone that runs a business like that you don't really run it to take home a high W-2 salary so I think the tax thing is very misleading you just buy more equipment and expand next year or pay down some of your equipment and you right off all the depreciation. Plus you can use all your equipment in your personal life and you can barter with other people That's what I do I only pay myself like 40 grand over the table but I have enough equipment and property I would have to make $150,000 a year gross in a W-2 job which I did before I started this.
We all have our methods. Thanks for commenting🙏🏻
Nice video! Also don't forget the hourly cost for wear and maintenance on the mower.
Exactly! Also, deprecation is almost never mentioned. That tractor probably cost $60-70,000; if you assume three thousand hours of completely trouble-free use, that’s $20-25/hr extra just for depreciation. And that’s a very conservative number.
You didn’t take out equipment cost and insurance per day.
Hello Sir loved your video on how to start a bush hog business. I was interested in starting my own business. I’m retired and would like to make a little cash on the side. I live in Mississippi Desoto county. Any advise on what size tractor, trailer, and truck I should look into. I probably need start with used equipment. Any help in this direction would be much appreciated.
At least a 50 hp tractor with 6 foot mower. 1 ton truck and 20 foot trailer (I would go ahead and get a 10 ton trailer to allow for being able to rent and haul Skidsteer or excavator with mowers or mulchers
Love the transparency!
Why not ask more than working for peanuts?
I made 1750$ Monday in 2 hours bush hogging with my MT-100 bobcat
And that was working by myself and customer was very happy. Don’t try and explain to customers who want to pay per hour. Only give a price for the job never and I repeat never work a job agreeing to pay per hour. Customers would love that just clock in and work all day young man 😂😂
dude this frutrates me even further 😂 how does anyone make any kind of money to be able to buy a tractor before you can even start this type of work in the 1st place
Credit... Most companies have specials going on where its nothing down and 0% for 7 or 8 years on equipment. I bought a dump trailer for my business, nothing down and out the door I went with a trailer. Its been making its own payments by the work it does for me.
Very thorough. Well worth my time to watch this analysis and break down.
Finally a video with actual numbers! Thank you so much!!
Essentially you use bush hogging as a loss leader.
Loss leaders are fine when they work to get more business, which actually makes a decent profit.
For equipment depreciation per day of use, a simple way to estimate is half the cost of renting that tractor or truck. (whatever)
This was very helpful thanks started almost a year ago and got my llc 3months ago doing lawn & landscape but plan on changing to big work like bush hogging and land clearing
I think your charging too cheap!😧😢
You sir are correct......it's a business. I run mine at 100 per hour......that's the rate. I don't do anything heavy, small Deere and 4ft on back.
Most the jobs come off my landcare business.......and they complain about price. I'm nice and give them numbers of folks that will do it cheaper all the time. Most the jobs I do are really just tall grass and weeds. Yes I'm picky, but we also trim out fence post and ditch banks. I'm more of a weed hogged than brush hogged. Stack that cash brother, something gonna break!
Keep at it my brother!!!! Too many good paying customers out there to settle
Have lots of questions can you make a video on how you first got started
I sure will. Im planning on doing a live Q and A as well
I want to do that so bad but I can’t afford the skidsteer and bushhog ied love to do this to make my wife and I more money we don’t make that much on s.s so that’s why ied love to own a skidsteer and bushhog
I started out with a mid 80s tractor and bush hog. Cheap way to get started
Im ok with this. I usually break down my expenses within a couple days of a new piece of equipment. Overall, i just need to cover the equipment bill in the end. I have other means for income
Hard to beat an M series Kubota, I like the cast centers. I would like to have had them but I added 3 sets of factory weights to mine it’s around 990lbs. Much like you with the steep ground the weight helps. Enjoyed the video!
Weight is definitely key when it comes to our tractors. Thanks for watching🙏🏻
When factoring in the servicing on the tractor, the truck and trailer, say per month, in addition to your food throughout the day I'm sure your self insured medically. That drops your take home significantly. But at the end of it all, if you're happy doing what you do you're really not working, you are driving up and down the road enjoying your life.
That’s a fact
Always take cash never pay taxes. You can Finance yourself in the future with the tax money you're saving. Kubota credit never looks at your taxes.
I appreciate you sharing the $$ in and $$ out. This has been very informative and helpful for me.
30% tax. Freaking hate the gov.
Excellent breakdown of hidden costs, thank you! Great Videos!
Thanks Tad
Very nice of you to advise and inform! God will keep blessing you and your family!!! I wish you all All of God’s Blessings Great Health, Happiness and Prosperity!
Awesome tractor! My grandpa bought a Kubota M8540 4x4 open station and with loader for his farm/cabin up in Clinton county Pennsylvania. Which he bought used back in 2014 and but he wouldn't let anyone else run it even though I taught him how to run it. But he passed away back in February last year and now I wish he would have bought one with a factory cab like yours instead because the bugs and dust drive me nuts.
Really informative video. Appreciate the upload. I had a question about the bush hog. Can't you raise up the three points and then sit the bush hog down while it is still running?
Yes but you'll only be able to raise it so high. Plus there's the ujoints. Might be hard on them if there's too much angle.
Where do you get clients?
Thank you for the breakdown in costs. I know I’m late to this video but I’m new to your channel. I would love to see a future video of mowing across a steep grade with some details to help us newbies. I’m 57 years old but new to mowing on grade since buying land in Tennessee. I’ve only mowed on flat ground but I have ran some horrendous tractor accidents working in fire department and ambulance services.
What kind of accidents?