As an engineer, where i lose my job if my projects don't work, its truely alarming that we continue to push technologies which are a failure elsewhere, not just once but multiple times. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over, and expect a different result....
orange peel still works great at getting through grease when tearing a gearbox apart, not much else does. rather than a shower head from plumbing and bathroom, search for a sprinkler in the irrigation aisle...
Get it clear . We here in the Hunter valley proudly provide a natural resource to keep the homes lighted warm in winter and cool in the summer and reliable energy for cooking . We provide for steel industries and other massive industries. Just it’s all over seas. Other countries benefit from what our people work so hard for and doesn’t seem enough coming back (royalties) at lest not distributed here enough. Ha. And to add insult to injury we are being bled dry for our energy consumption when we got so much we should pay near nothing. Can’t keep the lights on at home but burning brightly in the other blokes country. 🇦🇺👍
@@antontsau mate this the result of decades of globalists policies a higher agenda leading to a concocted result. Not a one term mentality of the crew in now are to blame. this is two parties guided by globalist elites. so no matter who we vote in it’s a case of two cheeks of the same arse. Either one is just same outcome but presented differently. 🇦🇺👍
I knew for many years now that hydrogen would never work as a viable fuel source. To fit any kind of hydrogen into a small enough container to transport it anywhere it requires freezing to a temperature of close to absolute zero. Which is somewhere around minus 270 degrees. The cost of which is astronomical. Hydrogen also leaks through everything that we know of. So if you start the transportation of hydrogen with X amount of hydrogen when you get to your intended destination you will have lost heaps of that energy from leaking through your titanium transport tanks. A school kid could have told Albanese and Forrest dude that. In short the advocates of hydrogen as a source of fuel have stooged the Aus public and made their money. Scammed all of you.
Liquid temperature of hydrogen is -253 at atmospheric pressure and -240 at 176 psi. Titanium is NOT used to store hydrogen. SS 304, 316, 304L, 316L depending on the temperature. Rubber and polymer composites can also hold hydrogen with little to no loss. It has been around and know for decades but, only recently been released from the list of classified and commercial band materials is a compound substrate that absorbs and stores hydrogen in an arraignment of molecular perfection. So storage/transport not an issue. People need to learn more about how to use it! It is not a suitable replacement for petrol in a combustion engine. However it is an option for diesel engines as 80% fuel load. Fuel cell applications is where we will get good use, by replacing the expensive, short lived, rang limiting and volatile batteries in EV's. Production is easy but first people need to learn how to identify and properly harness the "renewable" resources they have! Current wind turbines are garbage, and are only drawing a quarter of the energy from the wind they operate in. Solar is our best resource... but NOT photovoltaic!! Simple thermal radiation to run steam turbines and charge sand batteries. Excess energy should feed to gravity batteries. Again, if done properly it's a better concept than pumped hydro! But we are not likely to get much further now! We are about to become farmed animals. People haven't been paying attention!
Hydrogen does not produce energy, it merely stores it, much like a battery. It also takes more energy to produce than will be released when it is burned.
@@jeffmcdonnell1179 WHAT??? How do you store energy in hydrogen ? Hydrogen is one of the most powerful energy sources on earth and can be produced with much less energy than it MAKES!!!
So what yaw tellin le rewal O'Hughee izs tHat Bowen take's bribe's 4rom TELSTRA? Cause i thought he waz moore ov a Chocolate Donut fan myself smeared over moore than 8". Then cureing anul cancer with hiz 8" friend. Numerouse option's 4 CURE'zs
Bowen has a name, it’s not very nice, but he’s worked hard to be an arrogant, non transparent, and educated people are seeing through the grandstanding and non factual information coming from this fool.
So someone worked out that scraping the Oxygen molecules of the Hydrogen molecules is a lot more expensive than they initially thought, once you start to take into account the storage of the Hydrogen. Yeh it's a bit more difficult than the Jaycar kit makes it look, on a commercial basis.
Hydrogen was never going to work. It’s difficult and expensive to make, difficult to store, difficult to transport and has a low calorific value. I.e. you need heaps of it. My kids at high school worked it out years ago. Boats/blackout Bowen is an absolute disgrace and should be fired.
People are such fools when it comes to green Hydrogen and have no idea what efficiency loses actually mean eg: 1. Electrolysis operating at 70% Lower Heating Value (LHV) efficiency. 2. Compression for hydrogen storage at scale operating at 90% efficiency. 3. A fuel cell or combined cycle gas turbine power plant operating at 60% LHV efficiency. "Multiplying these individual efficiencies finds that just over a third of the original energy input into the cycle remains available for work by its end - a cycle efficiency of about 37%, meaning 63% of the original energy has been lost." This is why everybody dumps it as you need to generate nearly 3 times more energy than you will every get back in return and why batteries with a round trip efficiency of 82+% or pumped Hydro 70+% are a better option. But both are far from cheap, water is a limited resource in AU and Batteries have a short life span. Just go Nuclear if you need to firm up intermittent RE.
An international company (Norwegian, but big money) is trying this in George Town (Bell Bay), Northern Tasmania. Take our power and profits - we'll fight it.
So the $70 million of taxpayer money GONE where. Dont taxpayers deserve to get that money returned. Origin another private company. Getting public money. Without any power price releif on our tax money investment
Green Hydrogen is only green hydrogen if it is produced using renewable power Therein lies the problem fantasy that Bowen lives in Most grids are a long way from zero emissions so using grid-power will increase the carbon intensity of the produced green hydrogen. solar and wind’s variability sharply reduces electrolyzer utilization, driving costs up, the reason so-called Hydrogen production schemes have all but been abandoned When you factor in the cost of compressing, transporting, and reconverting hydrogen for transport the costs become a whole new ball game on the viability of Green Hydrogen None of this is what Bowen wants to hear
Chris Bowen has to be sacked and strippwd of all pension and perks. He has done nothing but make our lives harder, cost us base load power, and tgua, created economic down turn. Our own enemies couldn't do as much damage as this man has. I want to know on whose best behalf Chris Bowen is acting, as it is obviously not our best behalf. I see chris bowen as a clear and present danger to Australia now and into the future, we need to lance the boil that is this man...
Not more misinformation/disinformation from the leaders of labor, sky should do a list of labor lies and failures, wong, albanese are trying out for a job in the UN
Bowen was Gillards immigration minister & we know how that worked out, but now we pay the terrorists to flood in and ruin our culture, economy, housing, cost of living, etc. Bowens EV Utopia is a flop, no one wants them, certainly not 80-90% by 2030, sales are plummeting. Bowens idea of plugging EV’s into the grid to help support another of his failures as blackouts are forecast ahead of time because of his stupendously expensive replaceables that can not supply enough grid power. Bowens replaceables swindle factories and solar madness are destroying our environment, economy and power reliability. Everything Bowen says regarding nuclear and his replaceables is a lie. Bowen wants to spend another 1.5 trillion dollars in the next five years, thats gotta help fix our growing deficit that is already 1.3 trillion and growing daily. He also wants to pollute our coastal ocean regions with more windmills and have already smashed most of the Great Dividing Range with windmills and much of the mountainous regions within western Qld areas. Two Green Hydrogen Plants that Ziggy sold as the real deal and then pulled out with another 2 billion dollars of our money because he cant deliver on his promise.
Tasmania Cressy. Plan for 670000 solar panel farm due. Next to a river on farmland. Not sure who sorts out recycling of them in 25 years? Cable from Tas to mainlaind was sold to Asian investment company a while ago. They went broke. Power security Tas style.
All this green energy is garbage a school boy could have told you that ! For gods sake get back to science and power generation and transmission engineering!! We want cheap reliable power build back coal power stations better!!
Bowen has to go. He's stuffed up enough and needs to be stopped in his tracks before we're totally rooted.
Albozo and Bobo Bowen must go.
Chris Bowen is a one man catastrophe.
He is a destroyer of the nation. Before Bowen Australia was known as the lucky country now, we are going to be lucky to survive Bown.
The biggest buffoon since the world's greatest treasurer 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Unfortunately the best way is illegal and unlawful!
@@brothermaynard3200 reaching minus 250 degrees makes hydrogen way too expensive to begin with. And the pressures involved way too dangerous.
And aluminium not safe containment. And heavy. And seeps through ot
As an engineer, where i lose my job if my projects don't work, its truely alarming that we continue to push technologies which are a failure elsewhere, not just once but multiple times. As Einstein said, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over, and expect a different result....
Spot on
Einstein was wrong. Its not an insanity, its exact definition of stupidity. Or intentional scam pretending as stupidity.
Nuclear and coal💪👌
@HyperVaccinated nerve struck.....coal n nuclear💪= cheap bills
@HyperVaccinatedgo and whinge in China. Snowflake😅
God bless your beautiful way of thinking
Bowen again picking another dud.....
Bowen your a joke, how many wind farms in your electorate?
There is not one on the south coast of NSW ... hint... someone has a a beachside holiday house there!
Not viable, was that before or after pocketing the $20 million start-up cheque.
Arrogance mixed with low intelligence is a danger to Australia
That’s an accurate description of the labor party, particularly apartheid albo.
Ignorance is one of their other main ingredients.
Benny Wong is 2 faced.
2 faces of the one bottom
2 Wongs don't make a White.
Just Blowen in the wind.
There is no climate crisis. Refurbish coal fired power stations and we will have cheap electricity with no cost of living crisis.
100%
Aging coal fired power stations is a failure from all Governments to maintain state assets. Renewables are nothing short of money laundering.
Good luck with the pixie dust and unicorn tears.
Green hydrogen and The Greens are both failures. It's not easy being green 😅
Are you calling Adam Bandt a frog? I call him much worse names than that mate.
@@radambrose7571 😅
Shows every time what wizard Bowen is-soon all be backed up by green vegs😂
A one term Labor government!
All the greenwashed products such as for cleaning are shit you need twice as much and it costs twice the price
Similar to low flow water saving shower heads, you end up taking 3 times as long to rinse off the soap. That's lefty logic for you😂
orange peel still works great at getting through grease when tearing a gearbox apart, not much else does.
rather than a shower head from plumbing and bathroom, search for a sprinkler in the irrigation aisle...
His a nut just face it
Does that mean we will have to resort to using...fairy dust ??? Can't wait !!!
And unicorn farts.
Everything Bowrn does gets boned!
Just like in WA an absolute failure
And In SA under GAY JAY!
Why isn’t Barnaby back as leader
Get it clear . We here in the Hunter valley proudly provide a natural resource to keep the homes lighted warm in winter and cool in the summer and reliable energy for cooking . We provide for steel industries and other massive industries. Just it’s all over seas. Other countries benefit from what our people work so hard for and doesn’t seem enough coming back (royalties) at lest not distributed here enough. Ha. And to add insult to injury we are being bled dry for our energy consumption when we got so much we should pay near nothing. Can’t keep the lights on at home but burning brightly in the other blokes country. 🇦🇺👍
You are in Hunter Valley voted for labs and greens. Enjoy the result.
@@antontsau mate this the result of decades of globalists policies a higher agenda leading to a concocted result. Not a one term mentality of the crew in now are to blame. this is two parties guided by globalist elites. so no matter who we vote in it’s a case of two cheeks of the same arse. Either one is just same outcome but presented differently. 🇦🇺👍
Bowen you know the system for your benefit, So when you go,the Australian voters will call out your dumb portfolio .
This was always going to end in disaster.
I knew for many years now that hydrogen would never work as a viable fuel source. To fit any kind of hydrogen into a small enough container to transport it anywhere it requires freezing to a temperature of close to absolute zero. Which is somewhere around minus 270 degrees. The cost of which is astronomical. Hydrogen also leaks through everything that we know of. So if you start the transportation of hydrogen with X amount of hydrogen when you get to your intended destination you will have lost heaps of that energy from leaking through your titanium transport tanks. A school kid could have told Albanese and Forrest dude that. In short the advocates of hydrogen as a source of fuel have stooged the Aus public and made their money. Scammed all of you.
Liquid temperature of hydrogen is -253 at atmospheric pressure and -240 at 176 psi. Titanium is NOT used to store hydrogen. SS 304, 316, 304L, 316L depending on the temperature. Rubber and polymer composites can also hold hydrogen with little to no loss. It has been around and know for decades but, only recently been released from the list of classified and commercial band materials is a compound substrate that absorbs and stores hydrogen in an arraignment of molecular perfection. So storage/transport not an issue. People need to learn more about how to use it! It is not a suitable replacement for petrol in a combustion engine. However it is an option for diesel engines as 80% fuel load. Fuel cell applications is where we will get good use, by replacing the expensive, short lived, rang limiting and volatile batteries in EV's.
Production is easy but first people need to learn how to identify and properly harness the "renewable" resources they have! Current wind turbines are garbage, and are only drawing a quarter of the energy from the wind they operate in. Solar is our best resource... but NOT photovoltaic!! Simple thermal radiation to run steam turbines and charge sand batteries. Excess energy should feed to gravity batteries. Again, if done properly it's a better concept than pumped hydro! But we are not likely to get much further now! We are about to become farmed animals. People haven't been paying attention!
Hydrogen does not produce energy, it merely stores it, much like a battery. It also takes more energy to produce than will be released when it is burned.
@@jeffmcdonnell1179 WHAT??? How do you store energy in hydrogen ? Hydrogen is one of the most powerful energy sources on earth and can be produced with much less energy than it MAKES!!!
Klingon Bowen is sulking big time 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
So what yaw tellin le rewal O'Hughee izs tHat Bowen take's bribe's 4rom TELSTRA? Cause i thought he waz moore ov a Chocolate Donut fan myself smeared over moore than 8". Then cureing anul cancer with hiz 8" friend. Numerouse option's 4 CURE'zs
Ha ha ha ha😂😂
Fake Climate change
Bowen is still one of the best Labor have.
Let that sink in. 😂
Bowen has a name, it’s not very nice, but he’s worked hard to be an arrogant, non transparent, and educated people are seeing through the grandstanding and non factual information coming from this fool.
He gets his info from comic books
WEF
@@malcolmhector2641 He can read?
😅 only one page like Albosleezy. @@jackfrost2146
Israel has a right to defend itself...just not now.... stupid politicians
Well said,
Black out bowen strikes again
To produce 1 kg of hydrogen or about 40 kWh/kg requires 50-55 kWh of electricity. More energy is required to produce less energy
But .. But .. jobs 🤪 💨
It’s worse. 1 kg of hydrogen has an energy density equal to 34 kWh.
Laundering by another name. But Chris Bowen will never tell you that.
Get these people away from taxpayers money.
LABOUR does not WORK
Bowen the BS artist. 😂
So someone worked out that scraping the Oxygen molecules of the Hydrogen molecules is a lot more expensive than they initially thought, once you start to take into account the storage of the Hydrogen.
Yeh it's a bit more difficult than the Jaycar kit makes it look, on a commercial basis.
Another nail in the coffin of the climate change, renewables boffin…the dumb Bowen!😂
Cassanova Bowen.🙄
He’s right
Hahahaha Cassonova Bowen strikes again
Hydrogen was never going to work. It’s difficult and expensive to make, difficult to store, difficult to transport and has a low calorific value. I.e. you need heaps of it. My kids at high school worked it out years ago. Boats/blackout Bowen is an absolute disgrace and should be fired.
The calorific value of hydrogen is 3 TIMES MORE than petrol!! Nobody knows what they're talking about!
EXPECTED.
People are such fools when it comes to green Hydrogen and have no idea what efficiency loses actually mean eg:
1. Electrolysis operating at 70% Lower Heating Value (LHV) efficiency.
2. Compression for hydrogen storage at scale operating at 90% efficiency.
3. A fuel cell or combined cycle gas turbine power plant operating at 60% LHV efficiency.
"Multiplying these individual efficiencies finds that just over a third of the original energy input into the cycle remains available for work by its end - a cycle efficiency of about 37%, meaning 63% of the original energy has been lost."
This is why everybody dumps it as you need to generate nearly 3 times more energy than you will every get back in return and why batteries with a round trip efficiency of 82+% or pumped Hydro 70+% are a better option. But both are far from cheap, water is a limited resource in AU and Batteries have a short life span. Just go Nuclear if you need to firm up intermittent RE.
Chris Bowen _ less than 3 functional neurons. What a bloody waste !!!!!
DISASTER for our Nation
Another waste of our money by criss Bowen and Labor
An international company (Norwegian, but big money) is trying this in George Town (Bell Bay), Northern Tasmania.
Take our power and profits - we'll fight it.
Let’s just all get on…. For F sake grow up humanity 🙄
So the $70 million of taxpayer money GONE where. Dont taxpayers deserve to get that money returned. Origin another private company. Getting public money. Without any power price releif on our tax money investment
What is Bowen's response on this hydrogen hub failure ? He boasted enough on how great it would be !!How much taxpayers money has been wasted?
untrue -=...basically non CDF
Also dont forget the monster solar panel manufacturer at one of the former hunter power stations championed by Bowen. That fell over as well.
Casanova Bowen's done it again.
Green Hydrogen is only green hydrogen if it is produced using renewable power
Therein lies the problem fantasy that Bowen lives in
Most grids are a long way from zero emissions so using grid-power will increase the carbon intensity of the produced green hydrogen.
solar and wind’s variability sharply reduces electrolyzer utilization, driving costs up, the reason so-called Hydrogen production schemes have all but been abandoned
When you factor in the cost of compressing, transporting, and reconverting hydrogen for transport the costs become a whole new ball game on the viability of Green Hydrogen
None of this is what Bowen wants to hear
Sounds like a lot of hot air to me
The Albo and Bowen circus carries on - paid for by the taxpayer.
SMR is the answer…!
lost of effort...wrenches pin forces it back duct taped.
Costs more in energy to produce, than it gives out.😂
Bowen is a moron and a nut job
More proof, Blackout is out with the fairies
The response of some world leaders remind me Neville Chamberlin’s moment trying to appease Hitler. That didn’t work out well did it!
The flying of the palestinian flag in Australia is so un Australian, we dont support terrorists. This weak government is so sick .
Chris Bowen has to be sacked and strippwd of all pension and perks. He has done nothing but make our lives harder, cost us base load power, and tgua, created economic down turn. Our own enemies couldn't do as much damage as this man has.
I want to know on whose best behalf Chris Bowen is acting, as it is obviously not our best behalf.
I see chris bowen as a clear and present danger to Australia now and into the future, we need to lance the boil that is this man...
180 missiles? Quite a lot more than that were sent, do you mean ‘only’ 180 got through?
Isn't the Hunter Valley a huge profitable wine region
Hahahaha Bowen ..... can one man be more pathetic.
Not more misinformation/disinformation from the leaders of labor, sky should do a list of labor lies and failures, wong, albanese are trying out for a job in the UN
Whats the list of failures?
Bowen was Gillards immigration minister & we know how that worked out, but now we pay the terrorists to flood in and ruin our culture, economy, housing, cost of living, etc.
Bowens EV Utopia is a flop, no one wants them, certainly not 80-90% by 2030, sales are plummeting.
Bowens idea of plugging EV’s into the grid to help support another of his failures as blackouts are forecast ahead of time because of his stupendously expensive replaceables that can not supply enough grid power.
Bowens replaceables swindle factories and solar madness are destroying our environment, economy and power reliability.
Everything Bowen says regarding nuclear and his replaceables is a lie.
Bowen wants to spend another 1.5 trillion dollars in the next five years, thats gotta help fix our growing deficit that is already 1.3 trillion and growing daily.
He also wants to pollute our coastal ocean regions with more windmills and have already smashed most of the Great Dividing Range with windmills and much of the mountainous regions within western Qld areas.
Two Green Hydrogen Plants that Ziggy sold as the real deal and then pulled out with another 2 billion dollars of our money because he cant deliver on his promise.
Tasmania Cressy. Plan for 670000 solar panel farm due. Next to a river on farmland. Not sure who sorts out recycling of them in 25 years? Cable from Tas to mainlaind was sold to Asian investment company a while ago. They went broke. Power security Tas style.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah um adjust -in
Wholly unprofessional immature description.
I think even blackout bowen amazes himself how everything he touches turns to sh1t.
o no ecccccccm mean the evade back?
You still drunk barnaby
How’s the weather up on that high horse?
It’s still a free country until labor got in , good for him , even if he was he makes more sense than the PM , IM IN THE CAR ,, IM IN MELBOURNE
Barnaby talks bull-shit
BOWEN.... a pathetic Minister within a pathetic Government.
Cannot wait for Bowen's new clip on social media announcing the success of hydrogen projects🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can anyone point out one portfolio that piss and wind Bowen has been successful at?.
Just one..😂
All this green energy is garbage a school boy could have told you that ! For gods sake get back to science and power generation and transmission engineering!! We want cheap reliable power build back coal power stations better!!
345999...gogogo
Yeah ego head Forrest has finally realised his grandiose plans for green energy. Lots of luck with ur alternate ore trucks.
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