Every time they lose they talk about removing the EC. It would be impossible to remove it. It would take 2/3rd vote in House/Senate then 75% of the states have to ratify it. So both parties would need to agree on removing it and would be easy to block.
@@marioxmariox And that explains why they try to subvert the system by having individual states assign their electors to the winner of the popular vote. There's no way that would hold up at the Supreme Court, though, unless they somehow get a leftist majority.
Indeed. We should never allow ourselves to take victory for granted! After all, let's not forget that just 12 years ago, the left thought the very same thing with the Democrats after Obama won again! Little did they know that a certain Orange man had another idea in mind. Politics always swings in one way or the other, and sometimes those swings can happen quickly and drastically!
Too early to be making this declaration I would say. While yes we're riding high right now, and I'd be lying if I said that I didn't think the GOP's long term aspirations look great so long as they embrace Trump (that's really the key), it is still important never to underestimate the GOP's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and also to keep in mind political history in general. Lest we forget, just 12 years ago, many liberals thought the very same thing; that after Obama won a second term the Democrats were destined to keep the presidency forever and that the GOP would go the way of the Whigs. And then we all know what happened just four years later! The political scene can change, and change rapidly. It's important to keep up the fight and not get too cocksure!
Yup, the GOP after Trump will be tested. I trust how it will go for 2028 if Vance wins, but what about after that and trump is possibly gone in general? Demographically overall we look good. Even if Georgia becomes lean D, NC will still be tilt R at worst and we’ll have AZ & NV on lock with the Rust Belt (and mid Atlantic) trending right
@@tomato2517 I think if Vance wins in 2028, he should be fine to win re-election so long as nothing catastrophic occurs, IE another great recession type situation. After that though I really can't say, it's very possible that after 12 years in power people will tire of Republicans being in the White House and elect a new Democrat president. We can only hope at that point that after several humiliating losses the Dems are at the very least back to where they were in the 80's . And of course by that point and time (2036) it's very possible there could be another up and coming GOP star that no one is even talking about or thinking about yet. I agree with the rest of your comment, but ultimately regardless of the overall underlying trends of certain states it's still all going to hinge on turnout. We can't just take any WWC voter for granted and assume they'll always turnout no matter who is on the ballot!
NC is basically like a permanently Lean Republican State. The last time it voted for a candidate by more than 15 points was 1988 and it’s only gone blue once since then.
@@josephvolz8674 another state that the media was hyping was going to turn blue and then Trump won it by over 30 points. Marsha Blackburn won her seat in a breeze
@@tarasgubarikYou're right LOL, I don't know why I thought it was. Perhaps I'm just used to cities dominating the will of everyone else in states to where I naively assumed it was blue 🤣
And they should. Not just because it helps us, but because that fuckin system is stupid and unnecessarily convoluted when 48 other states don’t do that Same with Maine - even if we lose ME2 I’m fine since it’s more consistent (especially if they dropped rcv)
@@tomato2517 I live in Nebraska, and this is 100% true. While the vast majority of the state is good and sensible in Presidential elections, at the state level too many Nebraskans are addicted to the slogan "There is no place like Nebraska" (which happens to be the first line of the University of Nebraska fight song). At the state political level, that translates to "we have to be different for the sake of doing something none of the other states are", hence the "Unicameral" state legislature. It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that there's a REASON all the other states and the Federal Government have bicameral legislatures with a House of Representatives and a Senate...
@ i didn’t wanna say it but i definitely could see that some midwestern states wanna be different just because . Even the rural folk are different (more liberal) than rural folks in the South or Appalachia. No offense to you but it’s annoying
I'm thinking Illinois -2 but Wisconsin stays the same at 10 (generally, Wisconsinites don't really move out of the state and are pretty family oriented, unlike the disaster that is Illinois especially under Pritzker) but the rest of that looks pretty accurate, also wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee gain one maybe at the expense of a 4th California seat.
This is a different map then red eagle had. His had California losing 4 NC and TN gaining one. IL losing 2 and Wisconsin staying the same which I agree with. Michigan is more likely to lose one than Wisconsin.
And the Senate is almost safe R for the foreseeable future. Right now, 48 seats are Safe R. Democrats would have to run the table in ‘26 AND ‘28 by winning every battleground state, including AZ, GA, and NC to have 51 senate seats.
@ the Democrats have failed. They’ve wasted political capital and hundreds of millions of dollars on Texas and have failed miserably. Let’s let them continue to live in La La Land.
@@Ryan2022 All I'm saying is that we shouldn't be taking our win this year for granted and act like we're going to be untouchable in every election from here on out. Things can always change, even very suddenly so. Many Democrats in 2012 also thought they were set for every election afterwards until the end of time as well, and then Trump came along to quickly dispel that notion!
CA's just too blue unfortunately and so many people in the major cities have terminal TDS. Thus they actually don't mind and perhaps even cheer for Schiff's blatant corruption and Trump witch hunts.
@@Justin1701xbox Democrats would lost 10EV in their strongholds and Republicans would gain 10EV... Colorado have 10 EV. So this change would be like Colorado turn red.
@@Justin1701xbox Non-Atlantic Democrats (except New Mexico) do not collapsed in this election in favor of Trump. In Colorado or California Trump gain only 1% votes in compare to 2020. Sad cause i wanted to create book which have place in this state, but blue states are not possitive place to describe. And one of my books already have place in Los Angeles, so deep blue state.
Ga Pa is more likely then Ga Az and Wi I am calling it of the 7 swing states 3 are gonna trend left soon and 3 are gonna go right Arizona is weird switching back and forth
Imagine saying this five years ago
Imagine what would happen if we passed a law that bans illegals being counted
That's why turning Pennsylvania red is so critical
Pennsylvania will be red, Arizona or Georgia will be hold. And this is over in 2036 It is more than 270 EV for republicans on start.
Trump should allow the Greater Idaho and Liberty state referendums go through. That’ll REALLY hurt the Dems
As long as MAGA Republicans are in charge. this is more possible. McConnell and Graham will not be able to screw up GOP Senate races
Ohhhhhh so this is why they still want the EC removed 😂
Every time they lose they talk about removing the EC. It would be impossible to remove it. It would take 2/3rd vote in House/Senate then 75% of the states have to ratify it. So both parties would need to agree on removing it and would be easy to block.
For 2028, though, before these reapportionments happen, the Dems will actually be favored in the EC, so why don't they wait for 2032???
@@marioxmariox And that explains why they try to subvert the system by having individual states assign their electors to the winner of the popular vote. There's no way that would hold up at the Supreme Court, though, unless they somehow get a leftist majority.
Never underestimate Republicans ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Indeed. We should never allow ourselves to take victory for granted! After all, let's not forget that just 12 years ago, the left thought the very same thing with the Democrats after Obama won again! Little did they know that a certain Orange man had another idea in mind. Politics always swings in one way or the other, and sometimes those swings can happen quickly and drastically!
@@hudsondean2812 ???
@ they’re so incompetent that they could screw it all up. Not all of them I might add
Sad but true.
Shut up you’re coping
If they can solidify Arizona and one of three Rust Belt states red, then yeah.
Weird how Oregon gained a seat this past census and is now on track to lose it. Should’ve never gained a seat in the first place
Too early to be making this declaration I would say. While yes we're riding high right now, and I'd be lying if I said that I didn't think the GOP's long term aspirations look great so long as they embrace Trump (that's really the key), it is still important never to underestimate the GOP's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and also to keep in mind political history in general. Lest we forget, just 12 years ago, many liberals thought the very same thing; that after Obama won a second term the Democrats were destined to keep the presidency forever and that the GOP would go the way of the Whigs. And then we all know what happened just four years later! The political scene can change, and change rapidly. It's important to keep up the fight and not get too cocksure!
Yup, the GOP after Trump will be tested. I trust how it will go for 2028 if Vance wins, but what about after that and trump is possibly gone in general?
Demographically overall we look good. Even if Georgia becomes lean D, NC will still be tilt R at worst and we’ll have AZ & NV on lock with the Rust Belt (and mid Atlantic) trending right
@@tomato2517 I think if Vance wins in 2028, he should be fine to win re-election so long as nothing catastrophic occurs, IE another great recession type situation. After that though I really can't say, it's very possible that after 12 years in power people will tire of Republicans being in the White House and elect a new Democrat president. We can only hope at that point that after several humiliating losses the Dems are at the very least back to where they were in the 80's . And of course by that point and time (2036) it's very possible there could be another up and coming GOP star that no one is even talking about or thinking about yet.
I agree with the rest of your comment, but ultimately regardless of the overall underlying trends of certain states it's still all going to hinge on turnout. We can't just take any WWC voter for granted and assume they'll always turnout no matter who is on the ballot!
Why is NC safe red here? It was still bluer than AZ?
Because North Carolina is an inelastic state it doesn’t move very much at all between elections
NC is basically like a permanently Lean Republican State. The last time it voted for a candidate by more than 15 points was 1988 and it’s only gone blue once since then.
It's a inelastic state, it's unlikely to flip blue
Ive seen Tennessee gaining a electoral vote too
@@josephvolz8674 another state that the media was hyping was going to turn blue and then Trump won it by over 30 points.
Marsha Blackburn won her seat in a breeze
I’m excited for Idaho in 6 years. They would have another seat.
yeah i alot of people from wa ca and oregan are moving to boise area at a ridculous rate, same thing in SC
@@NickTheEnlightened biose isnt a liberal city, its a really conservative city acutally
@@tarasgubarikYou're right LOL, I don't know why I thought it was. Perhaps I'm just used to cities dominating the will of everyone else in states to where I naively assumed it was blue 🤣
Also Nebraska is likely to become winner take all
Only if the GOP legislature there can grow a pair of balls to make it happen!
@@NickTheEnlighteneddems then retaliate with Maine not worth it imo its just a wash
And they should. Not just because it helps us, but because that fuckin system is stupid and unnecessarily convoluted when 48 other states don’t do that
Same with Maine - even if we lose ME2 I’m fine since it’s more consistent (especially if they dropped rcv)
@@tomato2517 I live in Nebraska, and this is 100% true. While the vast majority of the state is good and sensible in Presidential elections, at the state level too many Nebraskans are addicted to the slogan "There is no place like Nebraska" (which happens to be the first line of the University of Nebraska fight song). At the state political level, that translates to "we have to be different for the sake of doing something none of the other states are", hence the "Unicameral" state legislature. It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that there's a REASON all the other states and the Federal Government have bicameral legislatures with a House of Representatives and a Senate...
@ i didn’t wanna say it but i definitely could see that some midwestern states wanna be different just because . Even the rural folk are different (more liberal) than rural folks in the South or Appalachia. No offense to you but it’s annoying
I hope so!!🔴
Hopefully NE gets its act together and makes the state winner take all too
Republican base on electoral map looks great right now
Never say never.
A while ago they had Cali, NY, and IL losing another, and gave it to GA, NC, and TN. Things pretty much can’t look better for future Republicans
This is so good
I'm thinking Illinois -2 but Wisconsin stays the same at 10 (generally, Wisconsinites don't really move out of the state and are pretty family oriented, unlike the disaster that is Illinois especially under Pritzker) but the rest of that looks pretty accurate, also wouldn't be surprised to see Tennessee gain one maybe at the expense of a 4th California seat.
This is a different map then red eagle had. His had California losing 4 NC and TN gaining one. IL losing 2 and Wisconsin staying the same which I agree with. Michigan is more likely to lose one than Wisconsin.
If we flip a state like NJ which is more than likely to happen, we only need NC and AZ more and we’re at 271.
And the Senate is almost safe R for the foreseeable future.
Right now, 48 seats are Safe R.
Democrats would have to run the table in ‘26 AND ‘28 by winning every battleground state, including AZ, GA, and NC to have 51 senate seats.
It would be interesting to see the house of reps map with these changes
We said the same thing when Obama won, let's wait and see.
We can’t lose. The map is in our favor.
We shouldn't be thinking like that though. That's exactly the sort of complacency that Dems can and will use to their advantage if we aren't careful
@ the Democrats have failed. They’ve wasted political capital and hundreds of millions of dollars on Texas and have failed miserably. Let’s let them continue to live in La La Land.
Don’t underestimate Republicans ability to lose a good thing, we need to keep them accountable
@@Randomperson-yr3gp don’t underestimate the Democrats wasting time and money on Texas
@@Ryan2022 All I'm saying is that we shouldn't be taking our win this year for granted and act like we're going to be untouchable in every election from here on out. Things can always change, even very suddenly so. Many Democrats in 2012 also thought they were set for every election afterwards until the end of time as well, and then Trump came along to quickly dispel that notion!
This is not the same map I saw earlier. That one had Tennessee and North Carolina gaining a seat and it had California losing 4.
I hate my state California Steve Garvey lost and they voted for sciff why 😡
CA's just too blue unfortunately and so many people in the major cities have terminal TDS. Thus they actually don't mind and perhaps even cheer for Schiff's blatant corruption and Trump witch hunts.
First, 20 seconds ago is crazy
Sad NY noises
Image how many electoral votes will change by 2030 if trends continue
Do these numbers also account for the possibility that illegals no longer being included in the count
Great video
Is there a link to the 2030 map?
This map is like Colorado would turn Red...
Huh?
@@Justin1701xbox Democrats would lost 10EV in their strongholds and Republicans would gain 10EV... Colorado have 10 EV. So this change would be like Colorado turn red.
@@alkaratus9189 I guess. Unfortunately my home will not turning red in the foreseeable future.
@@Justin1701xbox Non-Atlantic Democrats (except New Mexico) do not collapsed in this election in favor of Trump. In Colorado or California Trump gain only 1% votes in compare to 2020. Sad cause i wanted to create book which have place in this state, but blue states are not possitive place to describe. And one of my books already have place in Los Angeles, so deep blue state.
Ga Pa is more likely
then Ga Az and Wi I am calling it of the 7 swing states 3 are gonna trend left soon and 3 are gonna go right Arizona is weird switching back and forth
@@AlGore2028 Arizona and Georgia both voted Democrat in 1996 and 2020
Ron DeSantis could win!
lol
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