I like that you added in coaching up the WR on playing I space. We spend a lot of time on that because our offense uses a lot of dig/go reads, basic routes, and beat deep by 14 or break it off routes. We use a series of window drills to teach through practice this for both the WR and QBs. It help a ton. And getting kids to understand that when we send a play in that although we anticipate where our QB is most likely going to throw the ball, that ultimately it's his job to see what he sees and pick his side. That freedom makes every receiver a possible reception. They all know that they must perform their 7Ss with a high level of execution and win their own matchup on every single play. That includes our routes not in progression as I tell them that if they are on a "run off"MOR go route because we are throwing quick game five and outs that if they blow past the corner and that guy falls down, we alert to the go route and it's touchdown Bulldogs! Though iin reality QB isn't reading that and his eyes are inside of all that so he will never see it.
Would you QB drop a quick three and read the field corner to see if he melting on the number two, then read the flat defender? Because the concept is very cool as it's a high low on the corner and an inside out on the flat defender. If it's cover two then you are throwing number two all day. I would consider the snag/flat route portion of the concept as quick game. We drop our quick game with slow feet. So for my right hand QB it starts with his right foot forward in his stance. The drop on quick game would look like this...upon catching the snap, his eyes go immediately to the first receiver in quick game, so the snag while he simultaneously pushes back with his right foot and he lands that foot about six inches behind the left foot and his left foot begins to skim a across the ground while hi cleats skim through the grass and when he reads the flat defender has trigger on the snag his left foot will then push hard into ground to ensure he is stable and then closes and throws. We live the tried and true principle of "it's not what we teach our players, it's what we emphasize to them" , so we reiterate during installs and warm-up pregame throwing lanes...quick game equals slow feet. Long explanation for a simple question. If I was going to add this concept and want them to read corner to snag, would you add a read step or drop a "catch, right, left, readjust right foot, and read the snag to flat? Or would you drop your typical intermediate concept drop to match the timing of the WR routes and read this pure progression #2 to #1 to #3....or right, middle, left?
For us we almost never get the corner route unless it’s hard cover 2 or some form of man. We will pre snap read the leverage and depth of CB to give us a feel for if the Corner Route May be an option. Also pre snap consider the number of safeties, MOF open or Closed. If the corner route is not an option we want to get to the snag/flat combo as quick as possible to help speed up the delivery. In reality we throw the snag or flat 95% of the time vs the coverages we see. I carry this combo as a drop back progression not part of my quick game but several people carry it as quick game
Hey coach. Really enjoy the videos. I was thinking about starting a little series myself. Just wondering your thoughts of adding double slant to the backside of route concepts. I feel its very difficult to defend. It is something I was doing from 7th-JV level ball. I feel it really stresses a defense who wants to overplay the passing strength. They are easy routes to complete for almost any level QB because they are so short and they are great at beating Man coverage along with zone as it stresses the backside hook defender. I really like your concept of pushing the back to help get the QB a presnap read and also having to make the defense adjust on the fly. Great work. I really appreciate these.
Coach, how do post snap defensive communication calls play into this? For example, #3 runs the swing, #2 runs the corner, #1 runs the snag; what if the FS takes #2, the corner squeezes the slant to the mike and then pops back out and sinks under the corner route of #1, the SS takes the swing, and the mike picks up/cuts the snag? Will there be enough of a window to get the throw to the snag before the mike can get there? What about Stick? FS sees #2 settle, they help rob #1's fade, SS expands to take the back, and mike is responsible for the stick; is the window going to be big enough to get the ball to the stick before the mike gets there? It *seems* like this would be a tougher window than the snag.
Great job with all of your videos coach. Very helpful and informative. Not relevant to the current video, but do you have any content regarding 4-2-5 run fits vs 1 back out of a man free structure?
You would just fit open windows based on the insertion point of your man. If it's man free you can get aggressive and use free player as a QB guy making it straight zero coverage covering everyone
Thanks for the feedback. Also, assuming you are playing outside leverage catch techniques with the slot defenders and have the free safety fit late on runs, would your end to the 3 tech be a box player, and your other end be a spill player? Mike stacked behind the 3 tech?
Coach, you mentioned doing some things to go over the weak safety's head if they are biting on the dig on Levels. What do you like to tag there? Corner, post, corner-post, etc? I know you are not an Air Raider, but on the route that your left slot is running early in the video, is that basically the crossing route on Y Cross that the air raiders run? Run under the sam/will, over the mike? If so, after they go behind mike, are they settling, do they keep running at an angle (perhaps aiming for 18-22 yards downfield at the sideline like on Y cross), etc? When you want to run your "Spacing" concept out of 2x2, do you just call Snag and tag Y on the spot/sit route?
Great video coach. I'm a huge fan of the Y Stick. I think defenses are used to seeing the Scat route, but not used to the Stick route. How many times would you say you throw it a game?
You are right. You could make the Coverdale Mesh your entire passing game if you had tags to the package. If you combine it with the Seam read you kind of turn the play into the double out concept coach was talking about in the video. Have you done something like that Coach Johnson? Because I would love to know what you teach the quarterback to look for. That is a nasty play.
When covering 1x3, why don’t you line up man to man, but drop back into zone? That way your line backers don’t have to shift to the sidelines (shift right on your board) to cover snag routes.
I wouldn't have more than 3. The great thing about RPOs is you can run the same play over and over again, and get different results based on the defense. So it makes more sense to master a couple of them.
I like that you added in coaching up the WR on playing I space. We spend a lot of time on that because our offense uses a lot of dig/go reads, basic routes, and beat deep by 14 or break it off routes. We use a series of window drills to teach through practice this for both the WR and QBs. It help a ton. And getting kids to understand that when we send a play in that although we anticipate where our QB is most likely going to throw the ball, that ultimately it's his job to see what he sees and pick his side. That freedom makes every receiver a possible reception. They all know that they must perform their 7Ss with a high level of execution and win their own matchup on every single play. That includes our routes not in progression as I tell them that if they are on a "run off"MOR go route because we are throwing quick game five and outs that if they blow past the corner and that guy falls down, we alert to the go route and it's touchdown Bulldogs!
Though iin reality QB isn't reading that and his eyes are inside of all that so he will never see it.
WRS at a young age don’t understand concepts, they think every route is designed for them
I love how offenses and defenses adapt. Once the pattern match stuff came in, this TOM (throw off mike) stuff evolved. Great stuff!
Can't get left behind.
Would you QB drop a quick three and read the field corner to see if he melting on the number two, then read the flat defender? Because the concept is very cool as it's a high low on the corner and an inside out on the flat defender. If it's cover two then you are throwing number two all day. I would consider the snag/flat route portion of the concept as quick game. We drop our quick game with slow feet. So for my right hand QB it starts with his right foot forward in his stance. The drop on quick game would look like this...upon catching the snap, his eyes go immediately to the first receiver in quick game, so the snag while he simultaneously pushes back with his right foot and he lands that foot about six inches behind the left foot and his left foot begins to skim a across the ground while hi cleats skim through the grass and when he reads the flat defender has trigger on the snag his left foot will then push hard into ground to ensure he is stable and then closes and throws.
We live the tried and true principle of "it's not what we teach our players, it's what we emphasize to them" , so we reiterate during installs and warm-up pregame throwing lanes...quick game equals slow feet.
Long explanation for a simple question. If I was going to add this concept and want them to read corner to snag, would you add a read step or drop a "catch, right, left, readjust right foot, and read the snag to flat? Or would you drop your typical intermediate concept drop to match the timing of the WR routes and read this pure progression #2 to #1 to #3....or right, middle, left?
For us we almost never get the corner route unless it’s hard cover 2 or some form of man. We will pre snap read the leverage and depth of CB to give us a feel for if the Corner Route May be an option. Also pre snap consider the number of safeties, MOF open or Closed. If the corner route is not an option we want to get to the snag/flat combo as quick as possible to help speed up the delivery. In reality we throw the snag or flat 95% of the time vs the coverages we see. I carry this combo as a drop back progression not part of my quick game but several people carry it as quick game
i'm from brazil, i watched all your videos, it's help me too much to play here, your videos helped to develop my offense, so, thanks coach
Thank You, keep working hard
Backside slant has to be included as well, he’d have a ton of room to work with the Will linebacker moving over.
Nice vid coach! Keep it up the good work!
Thank You
Hey coach. Really enjoy the videos. I was thinking about starting a little series myself. Just wondering your thoughts of adding double slant to the backside of route concepts. I feel its very difficult to defend. It is something I was doing from 7th-JV level ball. I feel it really stresses a defense who wants to overplay the passing strength. They are easy routes to complete for almost any level QB because they are so short and they are great at beating Man coverage along with zone as it stresses the backside hook defender. I really like your concept of pushing the back to help get the QB a presnap read and also having to make the defense adjust on the fly. Great work. I really appreciate these.
We run double slants in quick game opposite hitches
Xadanar You definitely should... I would definitely like to see how you fine tune the double slants concept
Coach, how do post snap defensive communication calls play into this?
For example, #3 runs the swing, #2 runs the corner, #1 runs the snag; what if the FS takes #2, the corner squeezes the slant to the mike and then pops back out and sinks under the corner route of #1, the SS takes the swing, and the mike picks up/cuts the snag? Will there be enough of a window to get the throw to the snag before the mike can get there?
What about Stick? FS sees #2 settle, they help rob #1's fade, SS expands to take the back, and mike is responsible for the stick; is the window going to be big enough to get the ball to the stick before the mike gets there? It *seems* like this would be a tougher window than the snag.
Build in backside concepts off of Mike push like Levels.
Great job with all of your videos coach. Very helpful and informative. Not relevant to the current video, but do you have any content regarding 4-2-5 run fits vs 1 back out of a man free structure?
You would just fit open windows based on the insertion point of your man. If it's man free you can get aggressive and use free player as a QB guy making it straight zero coverage covering everyone
Thanks for the feedback. Also, assuming you are playing outside leverage catch techniques with the slot defenders and have the free safety fit late on runs, would your end to the 3 tech be a box player, and your other end be a spill player? Mike stacked behind the 3 tech?
You may be better off boxing both ends in man free, all personal preference.
Coach, you mentioned doing some things to go over the weak safety's head if they are biting on the dig on Levels. What do you like to tag there? Corner, post, corner-post, etc?
I know you are not an Air Raider, but on the route that your left slot is running early in the video, is that basically the crossing route on Y Cross that the air raiders run? Run under the sam/will, over the mike? If so, after they go behind mike, are they settling, do they keep running at an angle (perhaps aiming for 18-22 yards downfield at the sideline like on Y cross), etc?
When you want to run your "Spacing" concept out of 2x2, do you just call Snag and tag Y on the spot/sit route?
If we run any Y cross we are moving and it ends up 14-18 yards. And yes we tag the #2 to run his route and not the corner route.
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Great video coach. I'm a huge fan of the Y Stick. I think defenses are used to seeing the Scat route, but not used to the Stick route. How many times would you say you throw it a game?
You are right. You could make the Coverdale Mesh your entire passing game if you had tags to the package. If you combine it with the Seam read you kind of turn the play into the double out concept coach was talking about in the video. Have you done something like that Coach Johnson? Because I would love to know what you teach the quarterback to look for. That is a nasty play.
We have 4-6 different tags we add to Scat stuff depending on players ability to understand concepts.
With QB draw attached I would say 3-5 times
Sean read dig is a great concept, we are not a true dropback team right now so probably won't get to it
Seam
Coach, With your spacing concepts, does the back motion to the flare or does he leave on the snap? What is his technique?
We push him Pre Snap
Thanks coach, how wide do you let him get before you snap the ball?
When covering 1x3, why don’t you line up man to man, but drop back into zone? That way your line backers don’t have to shift to the sidelines (shift right on your board) to cover snag routes.
Depends on assignment
Great schemes coach. Question for you how many RPOs would you recommend you have in an HS offensive playbook?
Pac Meez k.I.s.s. keep it simple stupid, maybe 2 or 3. or maybe 1 from each formation you run. just thinkin out loud
Tom Muscaro lol I know good sir just wanted his opinion on the matter. I have 2 put into my offensive scheme
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I wouldn't have more than 3. The great thing about RPOs is you can run the same play over and over again, and get different results based on the defense. So it makes more sense to master a couple of them.
How does someone beat madden football game’s cover 6 defensive play?
Wish I knew, I don’t play Madden sorry