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- Video footage of 16 anchors being set at high force and "Veered" in my "Clean Sand" seabed. After the veer, pulling force (straight line) is increased to the maximum of the test boat, giving us a idea of the relative holding power of the anchors.
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Just a post to say how much I appreciate all of this anchor testing material you've put together. Anyone who has dragged through 6 hours of 50+ knots overnight will study your efforts here!
Aye m8, I can't imagine anyone doing all these tests more thoroughly! This is soo worth to sponsor.
Thanks Steve! Just bought a backup anchor, a Viking 20, based on your videos. Bought a Spade 120 last year, also based on your testing, and really like it. It held well all year in a number of blows. Thanks for all your hard work!
With a Spade AND a Viking, you should be very well covered for almost any seabed. Glad I was able to help.
Mr. Crab died for science. Such a noble way to go
Viking Anchors is posting this video on various social media sites. "TH-cam Sailing Channels" Facebook Group being one. Good work Steve.
Great test, really useful insights, thanks for taking the time to collect all this data 👍
Thanks Steve!!!!! ❤
Wow, this is really impressive material you have been putting together. I recently had a jambo anchor on a charter boat and hard a lot of rumors about its performance. unfortunately i could not find more than rumors, real tests. Maybe if you get access to one, this could be really interesting.. thanks again for the efforts :)
You're awesome!
Now that it is Hurricane season, your testing is valuable. Perhaps you could test some hurricane anchoring techniques . Such as the 2 anchors in a "Y" pattern or does a steel cable leader line between anchor and chain really help. Does everyone's favorite:5 gallon bucket of cement attached to anchor rode really help? What about shock absorbers. For example. Bungee cords/ rubber dock snubbers or a fender as a floating shock absorber(water resistance) on anchor bridle or anchor rode. Does it help keep anchor set? Millions of myths and not many answers. That video series could save lots of boats. Thanks again for all the great data.
Thanks
Great anchor test as always! I would love to see a test done between different 4kg anchors. There are alot of 5-7m boats around that use this size.
Me too. I need more money!
One more valuable (or compilation of) test Steve. I wonder for this sand veer what would be the difference with a smaller scope, 4 to 1 for exemple.
Would be great if a compilation of all the tests for a particular brand/type anchor in all it's weights were available.
I agree. I need more money!
It's really interesting to see how different your results are compared with my own experience. I've had a CQR 50lb that hardly ever set in any type of bottom, certainly not in mudor clean sand, at one point dragging more that 200m in sand. Also have a Rocna, which just always sets, and resets when the wind changes.
It just makes me curious to where the differences are in set up or load or in the bottoms. To me, the difference is too big to ignore.
Why no Manson supreme in the test? I know you altered your original but have you not replaced it? Thanks for all the great work though.
Need more money.
Hello Steve!
Maybe it is in the details...
I have pimped my 20kg Delta.
Sharpend and changed the angle of the toth and added a small piece,same on the flukes. Seems to be better setting but have not made any comparative tests...How do I submit pics if you are interested?
Good work!
S/Y "SOL" Sweden
Hi Bertil,
Please post your photos to a long running thread "Videos of Anchors Setting" on the "Cruisers Forum". I started this discussion many years ago and it as attracted many knowledgeable comments.
Steve
Excellent test! Very cool to watch! Knowing that the Viking 20 is so physically large… and slightly heavier than the “45lb” anchors in test I wonder how the smaller 15 compares to the 45lb anchors? I ask because the 15 is rated in holding similar to what a 45-65lb mantus might be (if I recall correctly). I have purchased a 15 in lieu of a mantus 65 (or 85) for our 26,000lb boat on recommendation that it’s the correct size as a storm anchor.
While the Viking 20 is significantly larger than the competition's 20 kg offerings, the Viking 10 is not larger. I would guess that a Viking 15 will be somewhere "in between". In other words, a Viking 15 might be only a small amount larger than other 15 kg anchors.
The Viking is certainly a high performing anchor and in some seabed types (like soft mud) a Viking 15 could very well outperform some other 20 kg anchors. However, there are other seabed types where the Viking is no better than other types.
15 kg/33 lbs no good for storm with that tonnage. Everything else in the system must be perfect/overkill or you will not make it through a real storm. It's a damn good anchor....but noooooo, Capt. must buy another if you actually intend to ride storms. My boat is 26,000.......~75lb hook, 300 ft tapered chain, 500+ ft heavy three strand....2nd Bow Anchor~45lb in the ready. Storms change people
Will you test the the Lonestar LSM mud magnet anchor ?
Thank you so much for your test! Very useful! But why didn’t you add the Kobra2 anchor, considering is one of the cheapest, widespread and effective anchor available in the market? (without patents right)
I did not test a Kobra2, because I do did not have one available at the time of the test.
@@flygoodwin Okay, but please, we’re all waiting for you to include the kobra2 asap in this amazing comparative anchor test of yours ;-)
@@Jacksea you should send him one then to test 👌🏻😊
For perspective, can you remind us the hp of the test boat and what rpm you are hitting for the 1325 pulls? Also, noticed a swivel on the Ultra. Is this because it doesn’t accept a correctly sized shackle?
90 horsepower Yamaha outboard. 14X11 propeller. This is a "fine pitch" propeller that is optimized for zero speed thrust. 5,150 RPM.
A swivel is present on the Ultra Anchor because the Ultra anchor company sent it to me for use. If the swivel is not installed, two shackles can be used. I have tested with both arrangements.
Another great video. No Vulcan anchor :(
I'm sad too. Need more money.
You ever heard from the Jambo anchor?
Steve have you ever thought of building your own anchor and testing that?
I ponder a new anchor design every day. So far, I have not come up with a truly new idea. I am not particularly interested in "tweaking" an existing design for some small gain.
Totally agree... Panope Anchor ⚓ 2022 😎
@@flygoodwin I don't think you can find any that theres not one that is almost the same just tweaked a little different. I have a 80# CQR that I'm going to make the fluke's almost twice as big and see how it holds!
Still need a heavy grass test site.
Yes. That might very well separate the wheat from the chaff
great vid, thanks! Q: what is the self launching power again? anyone?
Rod, "Self launching power" pertains to the anchor's ability to launch itself from the bow roller and drag chain along a horizontal foredeck. See my video #106.
@@flygoodwin thanks!
Why no Manson Supreme 45lb. anchor test?
Because I do not posses an unmodified example.
Excel is starting to loose its mantle at top of the chart
It is certainly being challenged.
The vulcan?
THE 55lb Vulcan that I tested previously had been sold.
Anybody has Steve contact details? I need to send him a picture. Thanks.
Add a column for "Made in"
It's hard enough for me to rank anchors. Now you want me to start ranking whole countries? 😀
@@flygoodwin Some people endeavor to manufacture in countries where people have human rights, others outsource and move production to where people are treated like cattle. If price is factoring into the rating system, so should where the anchor is manufactured.
@@flygoodwin Great videos by the way, much appreciated.
Steve, the Spade anchors now have the lead sealed in to the tip with epoxy. I believe this will stop the corrosion problem seen in the past on the older Spade anchors. Giving the new Spade a rating of 1 seems unfair when you are testing other new anchors that haven’t been around long enough to understand how they fair long term with regard to corrosion. Maybe the new Spade should have a corrosion rating the same as say Viking who is the new kid on the block. Time will tell how both these anchors perform longterm corrosion wise. Nice summary of the 45kg anchors
Tim, I rated the 45lb Spade S100 a "1" (out of 5) for three reasons: Difficulty to regalvanize, Dissimilar metals, and Hollow shank (the failure of which, due to internal, unseen corrosion would be catastrophic).
I rated the Viking anchor a "3" because of the "flaking" of the outer layer of galvanizing, and the Hollow Rollbar (the failure of which, due to internal corrosion, is not as catastrophic).
As far as the Spade's epoxy coating (of the lead), I would need to test this for effectiveness. I would suggest that Spade Anchor send me an updated version. I assume they have concidered this, as they were the first (of many) manufacturers to send me an anchor, (6 years ago).
Then again, if Viking were to send me an anchor from a batch that did not have a galvanizing flaw, their rank would increase to a "4".
The ranking system requires that at least one anchor recieves the lowest position. Based on the anchors in my possession, the 45lb. Spade anchor most certainly deserves that position.
Steve,
Spade will give you a new anchor if you have the original receipt if your anchor has gone rusty. No need to re-galvanise. I know people that have galvanised them. They sent them to be done without removing the lead in the tip. They came back galvanised with no lead as it melted during galvanising. They simply then added the lead using fishing weights and a blow torch. Not so hard😀. I am not a salesman for Spade just a happy user with 19 years experience of using them on a very regular basis. Its a great anchor
@@timevans8223 If the galvanisers had realised that, they would been served a humongous bill for contaminating their tank.
@@Gottenhimfella not in Trinidad😂
@@flygoodwin Steve, having had Spade anchors for longer than most people you are over egging the corrosion thing. It's just not that bad. If you have had excellent service out of an anchor for over ten years, anchoring thousands of times as liveaboards, the cost of buying a new anchor if you don't want to galvanise is tiny in the scale of things and overall cost of running a boat. You are down marking the best anchor out there for a none existent problem.
Why does the Rocna perform so badly in your testing compared to every other independent test I have ever seen? Don't you think this is strange? It not slightly worse. In lots of testing the top 3 or 4 best performing anchors swap places but in your testing the Rocna is truly horrendous. Why is this? Do we assume all other independent testing including official bodies such as Lloyds are wrong? Or is there something strange going on here? My own experience of anchoring in testing conditions is the Rocna out performs Delta and CQR by a huge margin but not in your testing. What are you doing differently? To be honest, I am struggling to believe the results.
The other thing that worrys me about your testing is anchors still moving when you say they are set. This is plainly wrong. An anchor is set when it is stationary. If my anchor moves more than a metre is has simply dug deeper because it's been pulled under the sand. In your videos, anchors are still moving but not diving. These are dragging. If I spend a week using this anchor I would be on a beach or out at sea
Seabed type.
In three of my seabeds, (Surf Sand, Soft Mud, Cobblestone) the Rocna performed well against all other "non-pivoting fluke anchors". For the two locations where the Rocna performed poorly (Sandy Mud, Clean Sand), my theory is that these seabeds have a cohesive quality that tends to cause fouling/sticking of seabed to to the anchor. I would GUESS that the Rocna performed well in other people's tests because their seabeds did not have the particular cohesive nature that the Rocna is limited by.
No, I do not think the other people's test are wrong.
I test. I film. I report.
@@flygoodwin I simply don't accept that a CQR has better holding than the same weight Rocna in clean sand. There is something very suspicious about this result in your testing. I am not a fan of the Rocna but I know it is a far better anchor in clean sand than a CQR. Every independent test ever has concluded this. Your table is the only one ever to rate a CQR higher than a Rocna in clean sand. Don't you think it is strange?
@@timevans8223 My "Clean Sand" seabed has some "binding" material in the layers benheth the surface and therefore likely not as "clean" as other person's test beds.
@@flygoodwin so you are now saying that your clean sand seabed is not reliable? Or are you saying it is reliable and the CQR has better holding in clean sand? If the seabed isn't reliable then shouldn't you say so? If the seabed isn't reliable why are you testing in it? Do you believe the CQR is better than a Rocna in clean sand.? The Rocna has probably been the most successful anchor in the history of anchor marketing yet you stand alone as the only tester to score it below a CQR. This simply does not stack up
@@timevans8223 My understanding is that this sandy sea bed has some binder (likely mud) that causes the Rocna to scoop up some material and foul. It seems clear that the Rocna is dragging around a big chunk of seabed in this test, preventing it from setting. Different anchors perform better or worse in different sea beds. I don't think Steve has anything against any anchor, he simply tests and shows the results. Stacks up perfectly.