Zykos: The Better Tactile Than Holy Pandas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- Welcome to the Cult of Zykos. Kidding... maybe? I've always loved big tactility, whether in clicky switches or tactile switches. Zykos reign supreme because they FEEL AWESOME and SOUND AMAZING. I hope this video will convince you to try them out! What do you think about Zykos and will you try making any?
0:00 Intro
0:28 History
1:19 Parts
4:24 Assembly
5:35 QC
6:24 Soldering
7:34 Sound Test
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Zeal v2 Tactiles: bit.ly/zeal-tactiles and use code "mintyfresh" for 5% off
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Lube: bit.ly/2LGOGuK
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They might be nice, but GOOD LORD they are expensive. IMHO, prohibitively so, especially for people who are new to the hobby. They are also pretty wasteful if you just discard the other switch parts.
Some people really, really overhype these. Please remember that there are (different) less expensive options out there.
You make a great point! There are a TON of other options out there and MANY if not MOST people would very happy with a stock tactile at a much more reasonable price point.
Browns, Naevies, Ergo Clears, T1s and all JWK tactile recolors, Box Royals, stock Halos, stock Zealios, even Holy Pandas, the list goes on.
This video is definitely more of a showcase for the happy little child born between peak tactility and peak sound for those who have experimented with switches and are still unhappy with what they've tried and/or have extra funds to throw at this hobby to experiment.
@@Minterly I think a Dark jade is just as tactile and way cheaper, I did make a 67g zykos and it felt really tactile but maybe I need a 78g to truly tell the difference.
@@tombaker2510 I'm gonna use dark jades but with 78g springs in the next build. (Maybe 7v?) To compare the difference.
@@Minterly I kinda want tactile ones that sound great but arent crazy expensive so what do you suggest the most. tyty and love ur vids!
@@wesil755 I've heard that the u4ts are good and they cost around 60¢ a switch.
Ever since I built Zykos, I grew 7 inches, won all my raffles, got six pack abs, and have found the love of my life. 10/10 would recommend.
7 inches 😳
No shoobs no. Gotta stick with the Holy Sh!t :)
@@huydoan9902 LOL
7 inches where ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@SirTrollingham At home.
3:12 such aggression towards that poor spring 😂
3:15
Patrick: *FIRMLY GRASP IT*
My Favorite Part of the video. hahahaha
The second you started typing I was sold.
Saw this comment while watching the video, didn’t believe you till I heard it too.
You spelled ORGASMD WRONG
@@GalacticBlader ???
How does this channel not have more subs? So much work went into each of these shots. The pans, soft focus, and even the sound is solid. Subbed.
why do people keep complaining about switches being expensive all while buying 3 sets of gmk?
all fax no printer
its in the name. great motherfricking keycaps
Who are these people?
Because it’s not worth it since there are tactile who are better for so much cheaper take tealios v2s as an example they were one of the best linears but now are just dead due to new linears being better values like jwk switches. Also for your statement about gmk keycaps they actually maintain and gain value due to how exclusive they are allowing you to resell them in the long run
3:09 the most relatable thing I’ve seen in years
Amazing video, the production quality is deliciously good. And thank you for introducing me to the Cult of Zykos! Once I finished your video I ordered the switches I needed and am currently waiting to assemble some Zykos. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Holy, I just put one together since i have a Zealios from a switch tester and spare drop pandas and omg they are amazing, I think you've just converted me to team Zykos
Calling them expensive would be an understatement.
Zykos are the reason why I have Rolexes.
Getting a entire board of them are the reason I don’t lmao
you are a godsend, ive been looking for switches like these. thank you so much
Daaamn as soon as the sound test started I knew this was a good switch. I was a bit worried when you said the halo stems create a higher pitched sound but it actually sounds really nice. I love an extremely tactile switch as well.
Damn! What a great video. Great production, great info, great research. Killing it!
The most satisfying and informational video I never knew I needed
Me: Hey this looks pretty good!
Minterly: I find that 78g is the perfect spring
Me: 😳 my weak fingers...
Many people have told me that 67g Zykos are also nice. Might be worth a try!
My fingers get fatigued with 67g 💀
@@mikurej95 Yeah! 62g is the way to go.
@@rmacias_c dont get 62g zykos, at that spring weight zykos are not tactile to be worth
@@jadenngl Nah, I've just bought a Niz Plum Atom 68. Let's see if it's worth the money.
those shots were soooo gooooood. keep it up!!
How have I not run into this channel yet? Awesome B-roll and commentary.
Your editing! This is so good
That is the best sound I have ever heard in a switch and I will take your word on the feel. Definitely adding this to my to do list for my new keeb. So glad I came across this particular video and can't wait until my new keeb is built with your franken caps. Thank you.
I had to like this video because of the spring install B roll. how you got aggressive with the final one after failing twice before is hilarious to me.
Got translucent pandas for this! Your video quality is getting better and better! Keep it up 👍
Thanks Chientle!!! 💖
Boba top housing works as well, very tactile, just a tad little quieter. Love this switch.
An upload from Minterly is always poggers.
Great, comprehensive video! Love the editing. Playing around with random springs, one thing I did notice was that longer springs of the same weight always produced a stronger tactility vs the shorter version of said same weight spring. Most springs being marketed at bottom out force, doesn't take too much consideration into the potential energy differences of springs when preloaded, and it's potential impact to enhance tactility. Maybe another way to even further enhance the zykos tactility.
I think testing out an even larger variety of springs would definitely be the most comprehensive/best way to play around with this switch!
Informative. Well-made. Simplified.
Thanks for the great video, it made subscribing an easy choice.
i had the pieces laying around and tried this out. i also had drop holy pandas on hand and a batch of halo clears and translucent pandas that came in today. ill say that the tactility is awesome! its a round tactile event much like the zealios instead of the "over coming the hump and then slamming into bottom out" with the drop holy pandas. the zykos is zero pretravel and zero travel after the tactile event before you bottom out. but because we are using the zealios bottom, the bottom out is less "thocky" than the typical holy panda thock. its a BIT more muted but much more thocky than the normal zealios bottom out. About 80% the thock between a zealios bottom out and a holy panda bottom out (towards the holy panda side) I would say. Also, i wanted to note that the invyr top and the bsun tops are really different. they are both polycarbonate, but the bsun top has more ping and a higher note while invyr top has a deeper sound. in short, its the switch that i always wished the zealios were. its more of a "tightly controlled" tactile event compared to the zealios which i would consider a "loose and wobbly" tactile event. and again, the difference between the panda and the zykos is taht i would describe a holy panda tactile event as falling over cliff and hitting rock bottom, and zykos would be like "driving over a speedbump that is right up against a tree."
Top new favorite switches. Silent alpacas, ink blacks, and zykos. I’ve always been a linear guy but these sound good af
the logical basic stuff, like dont lube the tactile bump and stuff like that. which springs eliminate tactility.... is really important to those who just started this, subbed
Would love to see you make a MX Zilent video in this same format. Keep up the good work!
I made a couple of Zykos switches with Glorious stems and top housings and it's honestly the best tactile switch I've felt so far. Thanks, I hate that I'll need to make my next build out of these expensive switches now :)
the guide is finally here! \o/
The video quality feels more akin to a channel with 6-digit subscriber counts. I was definitely surprised to see your sub count be this low. Keep it up!
Very nice tutorial!
Awesome video! I have every component needed already, so I might end up building these, if only for the improved skin complexity and financial gain.
Videos itself smells quality subscribed.
Your voice reminds me of one of the CNBC reporters. It's so relaxing to listen to.
Super high quality video I love it
Whoa, what?? I actually made these switches like a year ago (with Drop HP tops specifically) and big disclaimer, if you open the switches more than a couple times, the panda tops are EXTREMELY prone to cracking. I wound up destroying a whole lot of HP tops this way, lol.
I eventually tried NK Blueberry stems in YOK panda housings and I love it! Practically made HP's feel linear by comparison.
Ive never tried zykos but I am currently using holy waters (halo stems in full Aqua zilent housing) and I love them
Great video! What case is that? I really love the look and sound of everything. I already have some homebrewed Holy Pandas and was planning on doing an order from Zeal so this might be something to try!
It’s a polycarbonate Iron 165.
Nothing can match the sweet smooth high pitched sound of the holy pandas
Tried this. Found the Zanda to be my perfect switch. I guess I like the sharp tactility.
For anyone watching this much later now, theirs an alternative switch called the Neapolitan switch that is based on zykos that you can buy
I have heard both and I think I'm still going to get these they seem to have a little more depth in tone
This was a good video, thanks for informing me about the different switch, granted I can imagine it being very pricey to make, but if you already have spare switches that you are not using of the needed switches to create the Zykos then I believe it would not be a bad thing to try out and see how good they are in comparison to their counterparts that make them up. How long have these switches been around?, because this is the first I have read about them or seen a video about them for that matter.
Sounds heavenly. bookmarking this to possibly be my endgame
If you want the ultimate thock I recommend building the 🅱ykos which use the Boba top housing instead. You can also straight up use the Boba stems, making them more budget that way. They are very similar to Halo stems, but you do give up just a little in tactility for more thocc
Nice! I'll have to try these
Very nice and detailed video! Given that stem issue I would not advise the mixed housing for people using hot swappable boards. The force to push the switch in can ruin it based on what you showed. One the leaf inside bends tactility is ruined.
3:16 Minterly with the aggressive putback.
Great video! Your quest to find the bubble-wrap popping switch, did you find it? - i know you said the feel of the Zykos was like that, but what about the sound?
3:08 can relate, subscibed right there
As much as I try to be a keyboard snob my work just got these lenovo keyboards that are some weird psuedo mech membrane thing, it actually feels so nice to type on.
excellent video!
I just want to point out that zilent bottom housings and zealios bottom housings have 2 different sounds/level of tactility.
I thought they were the same so when I ran out of zealios bottom housings when I lost 2 to bad leaves my friend had zilents on hand
The zykos built with zilent bottom housings seem to let the stem sink deeper causing a slightly weaker bottom out sound compared to zealios
Hey, I want to make this switch as well. I'm a little bit scared of the soldering part as you said the leaf might move and flatten. I'm using hot swappable board so would that increase the risk of ruining the switch? I cant really pull the pins...
That sounds incredible.
Hi i was wondering how the switches are holding up? Any key chattering or issues with them after using them for a few months? I've read that the drop holy pandas users complain about faulty switches/key chattering and such, thus my concern.
hi, first time here holy the video quality is insane ! what camera do you use?
I use an A7III!
AHHHH I NEED ZYKOS
I messed up a glorious panda by trying to put on the top housing backwards, and i bent it back and it made the bump suuuper prominent. I was able to bend the leaf a bit back again to make it feel normal, but is leaf modding a thing? Cuz u can prob make a brown feel great like that
Are these switches ok to hot swap with? Love the video btw!! I love tactile switches and I'm currently in search of another after my Bobas
can I make any use of the leftovers?
Zealio top housing doesn't fit on the panda buttom. stem would probably do fine though (well if it'd fit)
"Oh cool! a new frankenswitch! I wonder what they feel like?"
*suddenly remembers I have spare zealios and pandas* >:)
Exactly. I'm kind of just sitting on my HPs and some old Zealios that I haven't used in a long time. I just bought the 78g durock springs. I'm excited to try this. Might even put these in my Think6.5v2, depending on how it goes. I've been loving my Tangies, though, so I'm having a hard time deciding.
Same lol
How would you compare these to Everglide Dark Jade Blacks? I just got some and think that they are more tactile than the Holy Pandas that I just built.
hi minterly! what profile keycaps are you using in this video?
Do i NEED Halo stems?? or can i use the Drop + Invyr Holy Panda Stems and Tops?
Cause i already have the Zeals and dont like them very much!
Love your channel! Hardly ever subscribe but I did
How would you describe the difference between zealios and Zykos, I am tempted to try this out. Nice video btw!
I need to try these out but so far my favourite tactile switch has been a Frankenswitch with c3 kiwi housing and Boba U4T stem. Either calling it boba Fetts or green apples. Not sure which name suits the colours better
can Invyr UHMWPE Linear Stems V1 tops will work too? Aren't the are the best tops ever? but linear tops and tactile tops are same or not?
What’s your case, key caps, and anything else besides your switches?
I built my viper with these. Love it.
Can Zykos be used on hot swap boards? Or will the lose lead cause too much of a problem
So how is the “rest”-switch? Panda bottom with zeal top? Is it still usable for your “B”-keyboards or are they like unholy pandas that everbody hates them?
Aight so what happens if you combine the left over parts?
Anyone try the glorious panda stems when making zykos yet? If so, how they did they compare to zykos made with halo stems?
Hey sorry, I am really confused with the parts. Drop Pandas have Halo stems so Could I buy a pack of 70 Invyr Holy Pandas and 70 Zealios V2 78G and be done with it? (excluding lube etc etc) Just confused because I don't think I need Holy Pandas + Halo + Zealios V2
You can use Holy Panda stem + top and Zealios v2 bottoms!
@@Minterly Ahhh Thank you so much for the reply! I will get to it!
How is the tactility going down with the spring weight? It should be absolutely the other way around. Heavier = less tactile
Would be great if you can compare these with prebuilt lubed and if necessary filmed gateron ink v2 kangaroos
Well I’ve had 2/3 of the parts laying around anyways might as well do this!
what is the cheapest switch that is super close to a zykos?
what board is that? looks good!
One of us, one of us
does it work with something else than zeal switches because they are annoyingly expensive for what they are
any chance you can upload in 4k?
I have most of the parts on hand luckily but I'm curious about the ones you specifically used for aesthetic reasons, are the stem and panda top on the clear/white stem zykos you made from the drop halo clears? Thanks! Great video btw.
Appears to be the case
Yes, I chose my parts based on aesthetics. The white stem is the Clears and the tops are the clear GSUS Pandas. But there are a bunch of top options you can choose from!
@@Minterly appreciate it!! Thank you very much!!
Where can I get that Totoro esc keycap?
if you have an extra set, would you be willing to sell? thanks.
Im assuming you can use zilent housings for this as well?
Yes
Need to try the Everglide Moyu Blacks (Dark Jades). I know they're expensive in NA at around the same price as HPs, but in Asia they run for much cheaper.
Using them as my main and testing them against, Zealios, Zilents, GHPs, T1s, U4s, and soon Drop HPs, Moyus are by far the most tactile in feel.
Would love for you to review them and compare them to this, maybe have some of the parts as an upgrade to this.
Yeah I agree. Only downside is the significantly reduced travel
I'm not sure how good of a switch reviewer I can be but definitely interested in trying out Dark Jades!
After using many different switches, I realized I don't prefer super tactile switches. Most popular tactile switches today can be overly tactile and they can get uncomfortable. I'm more into subtle tactile switches now, like kailh pro purples or even modded mx clears.
I wish I liked moderately tactile switches, it would save me a bunch of pain 🤣
Sold! I gotta try this. 😂
What keycap set is that?
what keycap set?? those r so damn cool
Would 80g springs feel the same as 78g?
Can confirm, built zanda speed switches (panda housing/stem with gateron clear spring (35g) and zealios bottom) as my osu switch. Want to make more but its hard to buy invyr pandas in lower quantities :(
Tell me, what is the best of tactile switch?
I have tried to make these a few times but always end up with something not tactile at all after a few presses. I assume this is the leaf problem you are talking about. Is there anything that I can do to actually fix the problem?
You can use pliers to pull down on the loose leaf pin. I think I show the process *very* briefly in the building portion of my video. Just pull firmly but not with too much force and peek through the Zeal butt to see if the body of the leaf is as close to the bottom of the switch as possible.
@@Minterly I see, thanks! I definitely had it right at first because it felt incredible but it went almost linear after quite a few presses. I will certainly give that a try though thank you.
What plate material would you recommend for Zykos? would Polycarb be good?
I have only built them with copper, brass, and POM. Definitely prefer them in the heftier metal plates but plan on trying with FR4. I think PC would be too high pitched but it really depends on what sound/feel you're trying to achieve :)