Xeno Reacts to "FFXIV is an Easy Game" by Misshapen Chair

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  • Final Fantasy XIV is an easy game. In this video Xeno reacts to Misshapen Chair's take on people complaining about FFXIV difficulty and "hard" to play jobs. One day maybe we will have a job that plays by itself and people will still say it's too hard.
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  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +888

    Chair makes Xeno google Nekopara live on stream.
    The fucking legend.

    • @irogt
      @irogt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      The way he quickly closed that webpage had me rolling. Almost as though he was scared of being put on a list.

    • @xAvitaLT
      @xAvitaLT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@irogt "In cat years they're completely legal"
      FBI: "Damn it"

    • @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914
      @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      everythings a Ftoy/Breedable long as consent/legal consent is given..,
      that said.., if catpanions were real..,
      Xeno would never have any[unless hes married].., since others would occasionally let him borrow..,

    • @ratburgler
      @ratburgler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bxnaxmxxnaxx1914 yikes, man. touch grass, as they say

    • @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914
      @bxnaxmxxnaxx1914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ratburgler oof can't take a fn joke like a normal person can..,
      You do realize that kind of line is used by those that need it the most..,

  • @mattigus
    @mattigus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    Chair: argues against the most commonly held beliefs of FF14 twitter
    Xeno: "it seems like this person is surrounded by idiots."

  • @gtetrakai
    @gtetrakai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Love how strummer was 100% onboard with what Chair had to say until he mentioned No Mercy. Talk about top 10 anime betrayals, lmao!!

  • @TLJthethird
    @TLJthethird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    FFXIV is all fun and games, until your daily roulette start pretending like Snowcloak is the only dungeon that exists.

    • @mjs3188
      @mjs3188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      *Crystal Tower has entered the chat*

    • @febymega7001
      @febymega7001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The wild 1k maws of toto-rak has appear

    • @ArchieGamez
      @ArchieGamez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Labyrinth and Circus tower intensifies

    • @TheTriforceDragon
      @TheTriforceDragon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ill take Snowcloak over rolling into one of the weapon fights for my trials...seriusly it happenes way too often.

    • @ArchieGamez
      @ArchieGamez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TheTriforceDragon Wtf how, i never got that at all in my roulettes LOL

  • @KrazyBean14
    @KrazyBean14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    "Nekopara is a series of adult vi-"
    Xeno: NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!

    • @WillKazeOh
      @WillKazeOh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Miranox2 More like he wants to keep his channel by staying away from potential demonetisation flags, I'll say.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Miranox2 are you dumb? Why would I risk any of that shit about some anime porn shit. I'm good. This was also taken from my twitch where the rules are much stricter

    • @KornOil
      @KornOil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Miranox2 Listen weeb, not everyone is into that shit.

    • @XenosysVex
      @XenosysVex  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Miranox2 has nothing to do with being scared wtf are you talking about? Why would I risk looking up something that could potentially get me banned? Wtf is wrong is wrong with your brain?

    • @yoanndouared1900
      @yoanndouared1900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Miranox2 Being courageous doesn't mean that you have to be stupid

  • @F3nryl
    @F3nryl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    "Once you need to know what to do, its not that hard" his genius is unmatched.

    • @Dynme
      @Dynme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      I think his point was that none of the jobs are hard to execute. Heck, most of them can be explained to a decent degree pretty easily, too. If the entire difficulty is a knowledge check, then it isn't really going to be hard.

    • @ralfmaca5930
      @ralfmaca5930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      2 of the most easiest to explain
      Smn : use buff & energy drain on cd. Use pet spam pet skill repeat til boss ded
      Dnc: use step on cd, stack 3 fans use fourth, use all during devilment, repeat til boss ded
      Although they are v simple, people are stupid. They'll find one way or another to misunderstand how to play the damn job

    • @nikanolodeon153
      @nikanolodeon153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Right? It's like the people who whine about wiping in party finder savage because "this fight is so easy" YEAH ONCE YOU LEARN IT!

    • @ralfmaca5930
      @ralfmaca5930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nikanolodeon153 let's be honest tho. Alot of ppl dont read pf desc or learn extremely slowly, so parties often end up being cursed.
      P1S is easier than SoSex, but i still see ppl mess up Fourfold shackles or intemperance for 30 40 mins straight with macros telling them where to go and how to resolve(JP culture thing if u dont know what macros are.)

    • @nikanolodeon153
      @nikanolodeon153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Found one.

  • @ahdiabygaming9660
    @ahdiabygaming9660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I want to see more interaction between these two human beings

  • @Kandraith
    @Kandraith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love how Nekopara is the one thing to shut Xeems the hell down. No witty come back, no inuendo. That silence was fekkin' hilarious.

  • @RaysofLight98
    @RaysofLight98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don’t have a horse in this race. HOWEVER- there’s a big difference between someone complaining about how low their job’s personal dps is in relation to another when they still get picked by statics… versus complaining because their job is *flat-out rejected* by every static due to that lower personal dps.

  • @forcebane
    @forcebane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    Chair is just screwing around. People rarely notice that his videos are mostly satire with a few serious parts here and there.
    Edit: small typo

    • @corkedfever
      @corkedfever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Right? He deliberately talks sarcastically almost the whole time lol.

    • @lumaro9704
      @lumaro9704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      I dislike schrödinger's douchebags as much as the next guy but you gotta admit chair's sattire is pretty fucking obvious

    • @sorinnoctis652
      @sorinnoctis652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean he makes it obvious lol.

    • @sdkdoom
      @sdkdoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PKcrash To expect maturity from this game is too much.

    • @PomPomNomi
      @PomPomNomi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@PKcrash Ah yes the ol' "its just a joke bruh" trope lol

  • @eedoan
    @eedoan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I don't understand shit about FFXIV, but still love watching this bald man. Great content!

    • @MB-em9ek
      @MB-em9ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      It's not a bald man. It's a speaking beard with a human attached to it.

    • @severedproxy
      @severedproxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MB-em9ek That, explains a lot, I don't mind the bald dude, but the beard...it calls to me.

  • @sadpandah7597
    @sadpandah7597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    XENO AND MISSHAPEN CHAIR IN THE SAME PLACE OMFG I AM DYING

  • @HotRefuse
    @HotRefuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I must be less than mediocre because I'll die to dungeon bosses even when I know the mechanics. I just blame it on the alcohol.

    • @soylentconsumer420
      @soylentconsumer420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      was playing p1s with friends yesterday and our offtank shows up wasted and somehow is the only to never mess up a mechanic. it was unbelievable

    • @GiorgosAigio96
      @GiorgosAigio96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@soylentconsumer420 when ShB released and we did Titania EX, everyone kept getting their ass killed - including me, but our wasted DRK was ascended or something playing flawlessly.

    • @bigboi5507
      @bigboi5507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So what I’m hearing Is that alcohol makes you play better. Bet

    • @HotRefuse
      @HotRefuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigboi5507 Not me though 😂

  • @aeneyes4273
    @aeneyes4273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Reaper DMG is higher at start of expac purely because it is MADE for the new numbers squish, the other jumps adjustments weren't 100% correct so their damage fell behind him basically, at least that's what i think happened, it makes sense

    • @zlonewolf
      @zlonewolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its all about optimization. I look at the class like this. Instant cast Potency> low potency spell spams. Healers, casters and tanks have either long cast time or inferior potency spells. This is why blm struggles to do dps while classes like Reaper spam procs for lower dmg but end up with higher parses. Reaper and sam have really fast, high potency skills and they spam it like no tomorrow. Its about quantity and quality. Classes like bards struggle not becos of cast time but becos their procs are mediocre and their gcds do barely any dmg. This is besides the logic that classes with group utility has lower dps. Some classes just dont have alot of high potency skills. Just looking at potency in the skill book will tell you that alone and you dont need a parser for that. Some classes just have straight up trash potencies and long cast timers compared to others no little or no cast time and ungodly potencies.

    • @Cornincarnate
      @Cornincarnate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you're saying "sam and rpr do more damage because they do more damage" Truly profound. No clue what you mean by BLM struggles to do DPS because they have to cast lmao. Plenty of BLMS doing just fine beating plenty of reapers.
      Also, potencies are not even equivalent between classes. 400 potency on RDM does not have the same damage multiplier as 400 potency on BLM. It's purely meant as a reference point exclusively within that job and cannot be compared with other jobs 1:1. Same goes for literally every class. Looking at potency in the skill book would tell you that Dancer has the highest dps of any class in the game, as they have the highest combined potency per gcd. This is clearly not the case.

    • @yeetusdeleetus4697
      @yeetusdeleetus4697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cornincarnate Potencies are directly equivalent, however in the way that guy is referring to. Potencies **are** the multipliers, they decide how much of your core damage stats are being used to calculate an end hit, ie: (200% of MIND as Magical Damage) as opposed to (400% of MIND as Magical Damage). This however is further muddied by a convoluted defense algorithm and an inherent variance in damage on all hits across the board, as well as the fact that some classes gain more value in DPS from their core stat (Samurai gains more core damage from their base stats than White Mage.)

    • @Cornincarnate
      @Cornincarnate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yeetusdeleetus4697 yes, meaning that 200 potency on one class will have a different effect than 200 potency on another. Which is what I said. You can’t gauge job balance by looking at potency in the skill book, which is what the guy I replied to was claiming.

    • @yeetusdeleetus4697
      @yeetusdeleetus4697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cornincarnate I was just clearing the conception that your message gave off that you cannot calculate how much damage a skill will do based on it's potency, which is wrong, you would just need to open your character page and look at your stats. Not that you intended to come off like that, just being clear.

  • @jaknafein
    @jaknafein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    He's right though, extending No Mercy wouldn't change the rotation. But yah, it would feel really nice to get everything in under NM. Its the same with Trick on Ninja though; you can't get all your big attacks in, and it feels bad.

  • @prestonscott6757
    @prestonscott6757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was a MNK main for HW, StBl, and EW, but I played NIN for most of ShBr because monk felt awkward for me then. Wouldn’t consider myself a loyalist, but the monks animations have always had me hooked. The looks were the fun part of the abilities for me, more so than the numbers. EW monk is way too much fun now :)

  • @Saber9933
    @Saber9933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    12:30 My favorite job is BLU so my chances of it being the best in the metagame are...
    100%! Damn it feels good to be a blue mage.

  • @xtremefurrycat
    @xtremefurrycat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really like playing dancer and even when parses came out as it being the lowest I didn't mind at all but after that buff I have a bit of a god complex now, so bow down to me mortals.... I mean have a great time playing the job you love

    • @zannothefox
      @zannothefox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you and me both I mained dancer cause its fun and honestly the class was simple enough that I could do raid calls for more complex content. I play it because I enjoy it and the buffs well now there are times in P3s I have to stop damaging the adds or it can cause a wipe cause I do to much damage and they havenet been repositioned to the death spots yet.

  • @Auhsa
    @Auhsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm glad he said it because I thought SMN was chill af once I figured out how to make it go. I think its more fiddly now.

  • @shaunperron7080
    @shaunperron7080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    My take was that he meant not to put FoF and no mercy on a charge system or something. I don't think he plays enough GNB to know it could use a slight duration bump.

    • @clearcat7296
      @clearcat7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, I think 20 secs on No Mercy is enough to do a full burst combo, but then aside from extremes I don't do anything super challenging, so maybe it should be higher.

    • @didac3859
      @didac3859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@clearcat7296 If you make good use of Bloodfest to get as many Cartridges as possible during your No mercy windows, you will have to sacrifice an oGCD (Hypervelocity, most of the time) at the end. It's not a matter of opinion or what people think, you simply do not have enough time.

  • @HatsukaRaigeki
    @HatsukaRaigeki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    0:37 i'm laughing so damn hard lmao

  • @junky2fk
    @junky2fk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Video: I am a mediocre player and I find this game easy at the 50% margin.
    Everyone else in the comments: your ff logs says you’re a mediocre player and you suck at top 1% savage and ultimate content. How can you say this game is easy?
    Me: wow, that air ball was so far from the hoop it went into another court.

    • @xeno942
      @xeno942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Rynn21 I think you missed their comment entirely. Why are you shitting on this person who aknowledges themself as average and plays at an average level? (let's be real above average, average xiv player fishes for freecures)

    • @ralfmaca5930
      @ralfmaca5930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xeno942 not only do they fish for freecures, they will also bitch and moan if the tank pulls 2 packs of mobs instead of 1 at a time, also not dpsing or using ogcds too.

  • @tofu6465
    @tofu6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That look when he brought up Nekopara.

  • @TurboNemesis
    @TurboNemesis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    its so cathartic to hear someone say that Raiju is fine and that people still complaining about it are actually just dumb

    • @KrazyBean14
      @KrazyBean14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Before 6.05...it was fine to complain, but if you're still complaining about Raiju after the changes then I dunno lol.

    • @loveskull8933
      @loveskull8933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My only problem with the stack dropping is actually that forked raiju is kinda useless in its entirety, especially since Shukuchi also exists. Can’t really justify having it in my hotbar, unfortunately

    • @KrazyBean14
      @KrazyBean14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loveskull8933 I mean, Forked also does a lot of damage. If you need to gap close and its available then why use Shukuchi when you can gap close and do damage?

    • @loveskull8933
      @loveskull8933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrazyBean14 it’s mostly that situations you’d use it require you retreat so far you can just hit Raiton on the way out then raiju as you walk in again, if you go far out enough *maybe* you could, but even then using Raiton gives a Shukuchi charge. It just makes forked feel very niche, especially since they do the same damage

    • @loveskull8933
      @loveskull8933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which I realize isn’t a terrible thing for it to be niche, but it does feel like button bloat

  • @spookyturbo1618
    @spookyturbo1618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The NIN complaint made sense when it was still a forced gap closer. You could have raiju, but be bound (EX1) and so can't use them and you want to still attack, but can't without losing stacks. Or a similar situation where you don't want to attack because, while you are in melee range still, you will still gap close into a mechanic and die. In that situation, it is nicer to continue the melee combo and raiju later. However, those issues were immediately gone when they made it no longer a gap closer. In fact, that fix was better then making it not break on a normal combo action. People did still complain about it after though which made zero sense...
    Also, throwing dagger doesn't remove Raiju Ready, neither does Phantom Kamitachi. Simply put, none of your ranged options remove Raiju Ready.

    • @Ninheldin
      @Ninheldin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hate doing EX1 on DRG because of the binds, and how they line up it 1 and 2 min bursts. With how many can't be executed while bound skills they gave classes this xpac its crazy how that fight was designed like that.

    • @spookyturbo1618
      @spookyturbo1618 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kate-ms2mn Absolutely, the change from 2 gcds per raiton to 1 was also nice

  • @Airlinecuisine
    @Airlinecuisine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This videos actually made me a feel a little better I'm still pretty frustrated with machinist right now, as it has comparable damage to bard and no raid buffs besides tactician but the damage difference isn't really that that big of a deal and isnt gonna halt me from completing content. but i do think i should level/try bard/dancer so i have options within my static as i am the range dps.

    • @Freemindheaven
      @Freemindheaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same boat. Leveling BRD now, and even though I kinda have my grievances about the dots in EW, it's actually fun.

    • @Red-tn3wm
      @Red-tn3wm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Whats worst is that Tactician is not a unique raid buff, Every class gets mitigation. MCH should be behind SAM and BLM yet it falls behind something like Physical Caster SMN! Who has a damage buff AND A REVIVE! MCH right now is just literal trash and the dev's don't know what the fuck they're doing, Anyone saying otherwise is on full Copium. >:\

    • @Airlinecuisine
      @Airlinecuisine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Red-tn3wm I feel it, when i saw drill, AA, and chainsaw were getting a 20 potency boost i was like "why are you not boosting wildfire a skill that takes the most effort to setup and it accounts for less then 3% of our damage for a whole fight" it's just kinda the frustration of it's not strong for what it offers and when they attempt to buff it they arnt putting the buffs in the correct skills, the easy fix is give machinist more raid utility the harder fix is buff the skills that actually need buffed to give it a personal dps edge. Buffs are buffs is basically what i had to tell myself after seeing the patch notes. but it shouldnt be like that.Machinist feels fantastic to play it just feels like the people in charge of machinist dont actually know what it needs to be better.

    • @Airlinecuisine
      @Airlinecuisine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Freemindheaven when i started leveling bard which im not done with yet, i was a bit worried about keeping the dots up but iron jaws helped me get over that a bit since it refreshes both dot timers, i do wish iron jaws was a ogcd with like a 40 second cooldown or something so that you can weave it since its damage is not that great and with it having a 40 second cooldown ud run that risk of if u dont weave it your dots will fall off and ud have to reapply them giving it a but more emergence but i havent finished leveling it so im trying to hold back on those kinda judgements.

    • @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773
      @everyonethinksyoureadeathm5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Airlinecuisine I'm at a point where Wildfire as it stands is a useless skill. Just because of how much setup you have to do (like you said) is heavily offset by its humongous cooldown. If wildfire was every 60 seconds it'd have a nice payoff. At this point, wildfire should be changed into a 20 second buff, that amplifies all incoming damage you do by 20%, without having the big boom. The fact that you have to squeeze 6 GCDs within a 10 second window for a 150 potency attack (as well double weave your gauss and richochet) is just lackluster made even worse if you're ping is about 100ms. It's almost as if the Devs are afraid of making MCH too strong that it would outshine Bard and Dancer. Even though those classes are designed around support....where mch was reworked to be more selfish.

  • @Kitsune10060
    @Kitsune10060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    heh, i remember this video. even through his deadpan delivery you can tell Chair is PISSED, which kinda made it funnier imo

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Nekopara is a series of adult vis--"
    _I'll check this out later._
    I'm on to you.

  • @Centurion2043
    @Centurion2043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lmao Xeno floored the brake pedal mid sentence, I could hear brakes squealing!

  • @Fireprincess161
    @Fireprincess161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    "Every job is easy... at a mediocre level"
    I somewhat agree with this. But actually being good is hard (I would know, I'm good at none of them)

    • @Fion355
      @Fion355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The statement is true. On a basic level, no class is complicated and boils down to pressing your combo over and over with a few extra buttons in between. And people still manage to fuck up pressing 1 2 3 in that order....

  • @mjkuhnke
    @mjkuhnke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I thought ninja's issue was that it's raid dps was super low, not it's personal dps.
    I think the job's that contribute a lot to party damage should be the top raid dps but it seems like it's still the ones that do very little teamwork

    • @sauceinmyface9302
      @sauceinmyface9302 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both are the same, ultimately. A supportive DPS doesn't really play differently from a pure DPS. All it does is transfer the burden of that extra dps from themself to someone else pressing the now-buffed buttons. I think, if they're equally difficult to execute, they should be equal in RDPS. Ninja is pretty tough right now, but that's its personal rotation. Pressing Trick Attack, or Battle Litany on Dragoon, are not very difficult, except you have to avoid drifting.

  • @ayukuro1019
    @ayukuro1019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:55 idk how could Xeno miss that obvious sarcasm :D

  • @renzalightning6008
    @renzalightning6008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do a Xeno reacts to his video on the Social Hierarchy if you haven't already :D

  • @kinkykink5235
    @kinkykink5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely would be easier to nerf one job than elevate all the others... However.. yeah you're right. The new class has to just be strong, whatever that means. Even if everyone else is brought up to it's level.

  • @suzu1816
    @suzu1816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly though. Every time I miss a gcd or two in my No Mercy window makes me shrivel up and die a little more inside.

  • @mikewalk2887
    @mikewalk2887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo we need a Xenochair collab

  • @devildante9
    @devildante9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanted to be job loyal to SCH so much, my main since ARR (I started playing a couple months before Heavensward), even bought some merch (soul stone pins and shit). Letting SCH go was hard, but now I play what I find fun (NOT SCH or DRK).

  • @blrblr1
    @blrblr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I used to main BLM. I loved it. I loved HUGE number etc. But when they came up with RDM I found that this is job that suits me more. Because I did not care anymore about huge numbers, but I really love that RDM is so universal. I can ress, I can heal. I can save whole raid when both bad healers died because of raid mechanic... I can ress both of them and still keep tank alive (for a short amount of time but still). I used to love biggest numbers and then I found myself in love with RDM because of it is universal. It will never be best in DPS, but it is great for me!

  • @Metallical872006
    @Metallical872006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "He drifts Midare to Narnia" *dead*

  • @ladydarkangelyuki
    @ladydarkangelyuki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally don't like WAR, but I still leveled it to max, raided with it in SB, and am usually pretty happy to see one as my cotank, but on a personal level, I would rather play the other 3 tanks. Also in SB I would use sch as my main healer but when it was changed in ShB, yes I was upset, but what I did is use WHM instead and now in EW WHM is starting to feel off and I'm looking into leveling SGE instead. The only job I have a modicum of loyalty for is PLD which I've played since SB and yes it did bum me a bit that the dps was super low at start, but I still cleared p4s with it and overall I really like the kit, and whenever I play DRK ,which I also really like, I do miss some parts of PLD kit tho mainly for situations where healer kissed the floor and I'm now hearing the sonic drowning jingle because I can't heal myself like PLD can.

  • @TheOptimistDelusion
    @TheOptimistDelusion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason ninja's raiju stacks are dumb is precisely because melee attacks cancel them so you're forced to use them right away. As a result, fleeting raiju ends up feeling so redundant since 9/10 times you can't use its gap-closing aspect when you actually need it

  • @jamesfreeman9049
    @jamesfreeman9049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how i have it set up for my extreme trial group is 3 sam's, 1 nin, 1ast, 1sch, and a 1drk , gets through the raids the fastest if we're grinding mounts

  • @remaker3
    @remaker3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Dumbasses be like 'it's satire' when the video is just the guy making some good points. I guess I shouldn't take him seriously when he's right?

    • @ShutterSnapped
      @ShutterSnapped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      People just say it's satire so that they can say he's joking about things they don't agree with and then suddenly agree when he makes a point they DO agree with. "It's just satire bro."

    • @remaker3
      @remaker3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShutterSnapped for real, like just stop being insecure about a content creator you like. If you agree with them Embrace it, it looks weird to dismiss them as satire

  • @DaddySenpai35
    @DaddySenpai35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lmaoooo the nekopara bait I weak 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @josephmckee3605
    @josephmckee3605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the biggest reasons I play ff14 is because you can play any job you want, you don't need to create an alt to try a job just to find out you don't really like it

  • @sheadc13
    @sheadc13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im in the easy to learn difficult to master category

  • @ruick78
    @ruick78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as person who is trying get omni class, all to 90, when you havent played job in ages swittch to it. becomes a wtf do i do again?! what all these buttons do *1h of traning dummy later* ahhh now i remeber

  • @passerbeta2298
    @passerbeta2298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wanna see that guy prog p1s-p4s in party finder hell

  • @lv.99mastermind45
    @lv.99mastermind45 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Nekopara is a series of adult vis-"
    *just scoots window off screen in disappointment without saying a word*

  • @archanglemercuri
    @archanglemercuri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After that Chair face completes all savage, tell them to come find me in Frontlines PVP

  • @xReifox
    @xReifox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love you to react the Pint ff14 video

  • @Daltemir1
    @Daltemir1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But why is ninja not next to monk on buff dps. Exactly!! Nerf monk down to dancer.

  • @Mathren1
    @Mathren1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Try saying that any job in FFXIV is easy and watch as everyone who plays that job explains to you why it's not"
    Nah man RDM is easy lmao we all know it but it's fun

    • @vayalond7203
      @vayalond7203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DNC main rejoin RDM main into saying it's easy but fun to play, I mean, for DNC, you just need to be able to align your 60 seconds Flourish with your 120 second Devilment, and if you really want allign Devilment with the 30 second Standard Step and 120 second technical step. Easy, even myself can play it with 1 hand if I don't bind Fan dance 3 and sword Dance on my mouse xD

    • @imdone439
      @imdone439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you don't play RDM for the difficulty you play it for the style.
      And dear god does it have style

  • @siniister710
    @siniister710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play summoner now and tbh the pets are very good now imo but I have no experience in how their previous state was.

    • @ItsSVO
      @ItsSVO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You actually had control over and interacted with the pet and demi summons whereas now you don’t at all. Used to feel very rewarding to play optimally and now feels lifeless with absolutely no skill expression to be had. Red mage somewhat fills that void now with some of the cool things you can do with your rotation so it’s not all bad, glad people like the new summoner rework ofc too just not for me.

  • @samwilkinson9309
    @samwilkinson9309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, I'm in the same boat with Gunbreaker, I don't like how it plays but it is objectively good still. And as for talking about my personal job, sure I feel like PLD has got more complex to optimise as expansions go, but it's still super easy to play to a good level, and even the thing of it getting more complex to optimise is from a personal stand point, like hitting requiescat during FoF atonements seems fairly simple but I only find it harder because of 4 years of pressing it just before I go into casting holy spirits, so muscle memory is a blessing and a curse.

    • @Ntwolf1220
      @Ntwolf1220 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have gotten pretty good at req during atonement’s but do you have any idea exactly why that is optimal? I thought FoF didn’t affect Req

  • @juicytin14
    @juicytin14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    people are too bent out of shape about tier lists and fflogs when in reality i hop into PF and 75% of the players in there parse gray/green anyway so it's completely irrelevant. people should just learn how to press buttons better and stop giving a shit about 'what job is S-tier' right now.

    • @Fireprincess161
      @Fireprincess161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean... yeah, that's how the colours work, keep in mind if everyone was improving those colours wouldn't change because it's where you sit in ranking. But I get your point. The more important thing to me is getting the clear, getting the reclears, and having fun while doing it.

    • @juicytin14
      @juicytin14 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fireprincess161 what i mean is just that the large majority of the people doing savage content are not skilled enough for it to actually matter

  • @n00exec
    @n00exec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:37 Instant regret!... xD

  • @johernandez266
    @johernandez266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First of your videos that made me laugh. Thank you .. two grumpy guys that agree on PF horrors.

  • @stephaniegoeschel1228
    @stephaniegoeschel1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm definitely a job loyalist. I've played as a monk main since ARR, even when they were nerfed into the ground to the point where you'd never get into PF groups because of it. (I wanna say this was sometime in either HW or ShB, can't remember when exactly it was). And I get not liking a certain job just because it doesn't fit you. I specifically started leveling dragoon recently because of how broken they are in pvp. What do I end up doing? Queuing as my monk again. Because even though everybody agrees monk is underpowered in pvp, I like it too much to stop playing it. I'm such a monk loyalist, that even though I've been playing since ARR, this expansion is the very first time I've had two max level jobs outside of crafters. And I only have 2, because those are the classes I actually like playing. (Although, I will admit I might get a 3rd, after seeing how broken warrior heals are I started leveling one finally lol)
    There's something about picking meta picks that just bothers me, and that doesn't apply to just FFXIV.

  • @Liquefaction
    @Liquefaction ปีที่แล้ว

    "his backstory is he's angry?
    me and him both lmao

  • @herecomeskefka5611
    @herecomeskefka5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hearing Samurai has highest single damage pisses me off when I think about Hien in stormblood.
    Bro a whole ass leader and has shit dps. As a dps/tank player myself, playing a healer and having to keep his ass up was a chore.
    No wonder dude was hiding like he had a warrant, I wouldn't wanna fight either if my dps was that terrible

  • @bullyboi424
    @bullyboi424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I honestly agree with 100% of what Chair had to say

    • @dalama4506
      @dalama4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No mercy has to change

    • @Isaac31415
      @Isaac31415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      If you agree with him, you're still wrong. Only he is right

    • @dalama4506
      @dalama4506 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Isaac31415 so basically if I say hes right, does it mean that he's wrong even tho he is right

    • @Aquilenne
      @Aquilenne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dalama4506 Fight or Flight too. Let every tank play at a 2.5 second GCD.

    • @Lumone_Peregius
      @Lumone_Peregius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dalama4506 I believe he's sarcastic in the video

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yo, let's be fuckin real though, toxic waste was some bomb ass candy

  • @KwehKwehKweh
    @KwehKwehKweh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love that he said NEKOPARA IS A SERIES OF ADULT, TAB< saving that for later

  • @AftermathRV
    @AftermathRV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:55 nah he is a samurai main

  • @atmostech7127
    @atmostech7127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I too love WAR and DRK. It satisfies my gorilla brain tendencies.

  • @Hades_Tempest
    @Hades_Tempest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t like warrior, not my type of tank class. Prefer DRK, PLD, GNB. The job is strong, just not my thing, I don’t like it aesthetically. Hence why it’s still at level 1 marauder.

  • @TeeRells711
    @TeeRells711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chair was that guy in the discords smns Lounge holding a beer with his head down sick of the words swirling around him .. until ...

  • @GuyN0ir
    @GuyN0ir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    His chat actually got him to google nekopara on stream holy shit what legends

  • @suzleber4
    @suzleber4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nin main since HW, I'm not a job loyalist, but would say a True ninja. It's my main and I won't bring anything else to raid. I've always embraced, taken pride, but also always taken what comes with playing the job. It was almost sheer utility at first, then clunky stormblood, then double raijus but I still love the job no matter what. It was a "meta" job at one point or maybe even for a long while but that's never really mattered in this game, not even for dps. Maybe Paladin during Heavensward is the only example of a job being at a legit disadvantage but even so it didn't stop and many still cleared the toughest content anyway. I can't think of any game that involves multiple characters, let alone real people online, where there isn't a favorite and a best and most of the time those don't line up.

  • @derryair9419
    @derryair9419 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok the "Nekopara is an adult vi-" **immediately shuts it down** made me cackle. I've never seen or heard of Nekopara but the timing of this was impeccable.

  • @kairostheweaboo6486
    @kairostheweaboo6486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    FUCKING THANK GOD Summoner in Shadowbringers was made out to be SUPER hard and it was as easy as paladin rotation tbh LMAO

    • @ItsSVO
      @ItsSVO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which summoner rotation? Also, paladin was one of the harder jobs to optimise last expansion so I’m not sure what you mean.

    • @flaco9611
      @flaco9611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think people where misusing the term difficult when they should have said something like "I don't wanna take time to learn it." Cause it did require some extra steps vs the normal job to play decently. Not hard just slightly more effort to learn I guess.

  • @MrJake8555
    @MrJake8555 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video gets funnier when you remember the literal next raid tier after this video featured an overtuned p8 boss that could only be beaten by the perfect comp and god run

  • @snonyabeeswax
    @snonyabeeswax 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    black mage is easy to pick up slightly tricky to master if you wanna be the best at magical explosions/chaos XD

  • @elduardo2496
    @elduardo2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some people: "PLD is easy"
    Me: "Yeah that's why I main it"

  • @suzleber4
    @suzleber4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn Xeno I thought you were gonna finish that sentence like this 'Yoshi P didn't go out of his way....' "to put on a f'n outfit for the new job!" LMAO
    Here's the new 2022 Corvette but the 2021 is faster and just better LOL

  • @snoopycruz5200
    @snoopycruz5200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im new to this game but I find it easy to play sprouts or not there's people teach you what you need to know, like the novice community.

  • @Malfeasance1
    @Malfeasance1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "How many people don't understand the numbers?" Judging by the amount of people I see bitching about machinist alone, plenty.

    • @thebigandlazyguy246
      @thebigandlazyguy246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Machinist is alright but it does need a bit of tuning since it brings nothing to the raid unlike dnc and bard

    • @Casual-Berry
      @Casual-Berry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So are you saying that Paliden damage is actually good?

    • @dbull620
      @dbull620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Machinist isn't bad, it's just in an awkward spot optically especially post 6.08. Their personal DPS is actually quite good, arguably the top of the ranged classes aside from blm. Due to its lack of party utility however, they're currently contributing the least rdps post 6.08. That said, the class is still perfectly viable in raids due to their high personal damage, it's just the optics of doing the least rdps while offering no utility to make up for it looks really bad on paper.

    • @anthony26812
      @anthony26812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Casual-Berry it's higher than warrior now after the buffs they got so yep

    • @anthony26812
      @anthony26812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dbull620 man everybody complaining about mch needs to read what you said, pretty accurate statement about their state rn in the game

  • @rickgeorge3739
    @rickgeorge3739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a long time player (since V1). FF14 is easy. But that what makes it so great. as a casual playet I can complete the MSQ. Now savage or Extreme... good luck :P Not easy.. :P

  • @ikeaira8701
    @ikeaira8701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I'm asking for is adjustments to my AST's Card system(again lol so it's not so busy) and a slight potency buff on DoT or Malefic so I'm at least hitting 3.1k :(

  • @AM-kg8rz
    @AM-kg8rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He's right that every job is easy.
    It's just that the every player is really bad at the game, to the point that if there are any mechanics they unravel immediately.

  • @zackaerith1872
    @zackaerith1872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I want is a fast casting, fully range tanker. Lol.

  • @genisay
    @genisay ปีที่แล้ว

    People tell me Bard is hard. After playing it for three years, I don't find it that hard anymore. Granted, a proper hotbar layout can change your life, and learning little tricks like refresh dots immediately after song swap, and cut songs at 3 seconds.
    The formula is there, and knowing it makes it so much less confusing.
    Bard still is proc heavy though, so you will spend more time glancing at your hotbar then some jobs and that can take some getting used to (as per a FC member who recently switched to bard after years as other classes and was complaing about how much he needed to look down. XD)
    Your two best friends for figuring out how your rotation should flow... Icy Veins/The Balance, then sinking some time on the training dummy to see how it all fits together. Rearrange hotbars to make sense, and maping keys around WASD will make your life easier. Not everything needs to stay on 1-0 (learned this lesson late in life AFTER years of playing WoW orz Might have made WoW easier too.)
    Take away:
    Look up some tips and tricks and quality of life hacks, and things will be a lot less frustrating. A lot of great things are not immediately obvious. Like Legacy Camera....
    Legacy camera and unchecking 'face target' turned me from mediocre player to clearing Unreals. Unlike WoW, FFXIV doesn't care if you face your target 90% of the time unless your ability is directional aoe.
    (PS: Squenix... please do not make bard 'too' easy if you streamline it, learning it feels satisfying.)

  • @CK-wk3vr
    @CK-wk3vr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Savage is only hard because people absolutely suck!! I main heals and tanks arent usually the issue, its all the dps that just expect the heals will keep them up while they ignore all the mechanics

  • @MoonDasher07734
    @MoonDasher07734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When are you gonna play Nekopara though ?

  • @NivaOranir
    @NivaOranir 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how could chair know this is what people say if they don't check what people say

  • @Onjiii
    @Onjiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something wrong with Adamantoise server where he plays or is he hanging out in all the cursed fb groups all the time?

  • @kwedl
    @kwedl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How do people not notice that he is just joking around while also being right about most of the stuff he mentions.
    The internet takes everything way too serious or literal. They need emotes and /s to understand basic things.

    • @DeadSpaceWing
      @DeadSpaceWing ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe if he didnt sound like a depressed robot maybe people wouldn't treat him like an Avengers level threat.
      Plus, he said he wanted to be the Villian of FFXIV. Objective Completed.

  • @amatol2849
    @amatol2849 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was letting it slide at first but i knew this game was too casual and easy when i hit max level more than half the people i would match with were still incapable of walking out of the orange warning circle on the floor in time to not die.

  • @YourTrustyHonkey9716
    @YourTrustyHonkey9716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im shocked xeno only commented on No Mercy and didnt say anything about Blood weapon on a charge system. Yall think that would be good for blood weapon?

  • @Hephep54
    @Hephep54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    and here i am bragging about the job i like being the easiest to play because i'm smooth brain

  • @aresanu
    @aresanu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😭 “Nekopara is an adult 😳” ABORT MISSION!

  • @Burningphynix
    @Burningphynix ปีที่แล้ว

    Playing a job and mastering a job are two different things in my eyes. The former needs to be accessible to the majority of the player population, whilst the latter does not matter unless you are specifically looking to push the job to its limit.
    My stick I am throwing in the ring is this: If I can play the content that I want, and I do not hate myself whilst playing it, then I am doing just fine. Also, job loyalty is dumb because if you can not step back and look at your job and see it's flaws then you are not doing anything to actually help your job be better. I love Drk and Sch, but I can point out their downsides. Drk: it's doing anything dungeon related. It is a more tedious experience compared to the others. Outside of that, it really isn't that bad for Drk, but I just got back in after taking a break when 6.1 or 6.2 dropped. Sch: All I can say about it that feels off is that I feel like I am playing two different kits slammed together somewhere in the middle, but I will still play it.

  • @kevinkertarahardja1836
    @kevinkertarahardja1836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    honestly i dont get it why people compared other job with their job. i just chase for that 99% parse.

  • @MunkyRey
    @MunkyRey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could be wrong, but they are some folks who are gifted with this games. What I have witnesses.

  • @Squeaxx
    @Squeaxx ปีที่แล้ว

    that guy sounds fun

  • @kaelyoshim5234
    @kaelyoshim5234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:38 :D

  • @phrometaren
    @phrometaren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The ironic and I'd even say iconic thing about Rick and Morty Con and Pro Groups is, that they will both believe themselves to be superior. Be it by "seeing throught the shallow humor of the series" or the "subcouncios awareness of the humor". Both are stupid, because they think themselves to be something else.
    Just, you know, guys look into the mirror and accept that everything you do is contradicting with any intelligence you claim to have and there is absolutely no one, except for tribal people that haven't faced our corrupted world, that would not be included in this statement.
    Truth be told, people that raid actively in the PF and are chill about it, those are the real Sigmas

  • @raptor5743
    @raptor5743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a ninja otp, honestly every change that they've made to the job since I started playing in Stormblood has made the job baby mode. Even before they changed raiju, it still wasn't hard. Now with Raiju changed and the potencies buffed, it's a competitive melee job. It was playable before, but now it's just a really solid job. I love how smooth it plays. Optimization isn't that hard. I genuinely love watching ninja "players" that just chased the meta in ShB get ass hurt about it. Get fucked nerds

  • @miorirfan9143
    @miorirfan9143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    more react HYPERPOGGER