Bruckner - Symphony n°7 - Philharmonia / Klemperer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Anton Bruckner
Symphony n°7 (1887 ed. Nowak 1954)
I. Allegro moderato 0:00
II. Adagio. Sehr feierlich und sehr langsam 19:54
III. Scherzo. Sehr schnell - Trio. Etwas langsamer 41:45
IV. Finale. Bewegt, doch nicht zu schnell 51:27
Philharmonia Orchestra
Otto Klemperer
Studio recording, London, 1-5.XI.1960 - เพลง
This symphony is one of that work that you can say you always remember where you were when listening it for th first time.
Perfectly put 👍😊
indeed
I'm not so certain. The acoustics distract me from what surrounds me spatially.
Visionary music. A man of enormous moodswings
I love the brisk tempo. Too many conductors play it so slow that it sounds like a funeral march. Klemperer gets it just right.
Extraordinary. One of the greatest recordings of any Bruckner symphony, this interpretation plumbs the depths of this masterpiece; its majestic mysteries revealed to us like no other performance.
A milestone in Bruckner's discography! A stunning performance and a great recording!
Interpretation objective and monumental, essential without comparison.
As always Klemperer brings us on the highest Summits.
GRANDE GRANDE GRANDE MAESTRISSIMO KLEMPERER !
It's really beautiful, indeed, and also has something of true character, which renders mercy to those who suffer under great difficulties. Thank you for sharing the masterwork.
Without a doubt the greatest Bruckner 7th on LP. The playing of the Philharmonia is just beyond words.
In 1960 when this recording was made the Philharmonia was arguably the finest orchestra in the World. Though still a very fine band it's no longer in the very top league - Salonen is an excellent conductor but not quite in the class of Klemperer, Karajan, Guilini or Kletski all closely associated with the orchestra in the 40's, 50's and 60's.
A magnificent recording of great beauty! Read a review in which the reviewer claims that the orchestra sounds as if they are not interested in playing this symphony with Klemperer. Some people are just trying to be two clever for them selves. The orchestra sound excellent to me!
This is the best of all Klemperer's (or probably anyone's) first-movement codas.
Klemperer has a knack for pulling these codas together. Though if want to hear one just as good or better (because it's just a better coda) try his 6.1, and the coda of the Adagio 6.2 brings tears to my eyes almost every time.
What grandeur. When Klemperer conducts like this, the "objective" tag is very misleading. What passion is extracted from each phrase! The first movement is a marvel in how the individual emotional character of each phrase and each section is uniquely depicted. Instead of 2D Bruckner - which can seem like a hectoring and even nightmarish monologue - this is 3D Bruckner - so many moods, colours, voices, the discrete passion of each only intensified by the obvious careful attention to the full details of the score.
Sublime, thanks for sharing.
Greetings from Mexico.
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1885 Version, edited by Leopold Nowak in 1954. Notice how the final strokes in the Coda sound pretty different from many other versions.
This LP was the first Bruckner symphony I ever heard, way back in 1970. I remember being astonished in the first movement at the effect produced by the pause between the stretto climax and the 3rd theme group. And then the glorious Adagio that followed! I had never heard anything like it. I must admit, though, that I wasn't as impressed with the following movements, more so the finale than the scherzo; I just found the finale somewhat 'flat' after what had gone before. Ah, callow youth, I certainly have a better appreciation nowadays.The sound is quite good on this, full, spacious and clear. Especially nice is hearing how the formerly standard placement of the 1st violins to the left and the 2nd violins to the right really benefits this music.
+thomas k That is what the conductor has to watch out for in Bruckner according to Furtwangler- Don't get too excited early and leave yourself nothing to top it with
I share your joy of discovering Bruckner at the same time as you - if only there were similar treasures left to uncover. And I still find the finales, apart from the 8th, ever so slightly disappointing. But what glories precede them!
"" I had never heard anything like it"" .... this is exactly the point .....
This is beauty! Thank you for sharing this.
Simply unbelievably breathtaking!
Thanks for uploaded this great Music.
yes, yes, yes, stunning
Wonderful performance of superb music.
Bestimmt eine der schönsten Aufführungen dieser perfekt konstruierten Sinfonie. Die seidigen Töne der Streicher und die milden Töne der Holzbläser sind unvergleichlich. Der geniale Dirigent leitet das ganze Orchester echt künstlerisch!
17:20 .... Klemperer lauching an unbelievable waterfall of Beauty ....... 18:38 and finally firing the most incredible rockets of complete Hope .....
....How OK did it? Not comprehensible to me to some extent. Results of his musical mastership are always outstanding and leave me in happy condition afterwards.
mi piace moltissimo
ブルックナー交響曲という建造物を実感させる演奏だ。半世紀近くきいてて一番しっかりした味わいをもつ演奏記録といえる。
Such beautiful performance this, I have another Klemperer recording with the Bayerischen Rundfunks and he totally rushes the Adagio and makes strange decisions. This is far better.
Xja
This was the piece that Von Braun and I were listening to when we received word over the radio that Hitler had died.
I think they played the slow mvt. (recorded by Furtwangler) on the radio, right?
It was Furwangler's version, Hitler's preferred version.
Main Man Klemp, up there with Tennstedt HEARTS More Love I have than my wife 1984 Xxx
At 52:46 there is the sunrise. For me the key of this symphony.
Absolutely brilliant!!!
Good pacing with much sensitivity, understands the ethereal and mystic, and the luxuriously extended phrasing with reference to Wagnerian and minimialist repetitious inward intrigues, measuredly unfolding and often compelling, naturally avoids overstatement and thence accesses truth. However he steady tread becomes monotonous, with the slow mov too slow and other movs lacking some character, and a replacement for Karajan’s further architectural insights, movement and preparation; this looks more to Jochum’s hazy spirituality. There isn’t the overall creative understanding of what the music is doing, as indeed no one but Karajan finds, and there’s a simpler mindedness, but the element of natural authority and personal approach makes this a rewarding and idiomatic Seventh.
Powerful performance, so pity the end is so abruptly cut as in almost all Bruckner's symphonies, making the climax part unable to be reached by the orchestra and perceived my the listeners, agree with Bernstein's criticism of Bruckner in this aspect. Otherwise this symphony is a true gem.
Until another Bruckner comes along, , I suppose it will not have been possible for a Bruckner symphony to have anything but an abrupt ending. Composers have their own specific style--even though their pieces all have their own identity, they often sound similar enough that avid fans can tell who wrote which piece. Bruckner had his own way of writing symphonies, and one of the hallmarks of his style was the abrupt ending. Perhaps part of the reason he ended his symphonies so abruptly is not that there wasn't a climax, but that the climax is stretched out. It's interesting to speculate how another Bruckner (should one ever come along) might come up with an unabrupt ending that would still fit the style.
Tokyo is autumn . I am a Japanese Brucknerian .
I will be drawn into the world of the deep meditation while listening to No. 7
From Tokyo in the dizzying Megalopolis ablaze with numerous neon lights
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Shin-i-chi Kozima Hello I’m from Belgium and I love Bruckner since I was very young. Hope to visit one day Japan.
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Tokyo is effulgent autumn .
Mountains , forests and streets will be gorgeous scenery with orange , red , yellow and brown colored leaves in Tokyo .
There are sorrow , pleasure , happiness , surprises , grief , pains , lamentation , anger and regret for the number same as population of 13 million people in autumn Tokyo .
Tokyo , a asteroid , contains various emotions as if Bruckner,s works .
Hokkaido , where is a Japanese prefecture , is blizzard and full of snow .
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Good luck ！
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Greetings from Germany! How wonderful to hear that people in Japan (the other side of the world to me) listen to it as well!
OK was not a uniformly "slow" conductor. He got slower with different composers at different times until the last few years when everything WAS slow, but, for example, his Bruckner remained faster than average for a very long time (well into the period when his Beethoven was already pretty "monumental" in character.
meravilla
19:48
This is a beautiful performance of Bruckner's great 7th Symphony. That said, Klemperer's performance lacks the fire, fury and passion of Furtwangler's live 1949 performance with the Berlin Philharmonic, or any of Furtwangler's several recordings of this symphony. Furtwangler's performance brings out the spirit of this music more effectively than does this performance by Klemperer, which sounds very tame, compared with Furtwangler's performance.
30:46 Tchaikovsky
Problem by version Nowak: 1.) where are the trombones/Tuba/Trumpets in movement 1 - bar 125-130?
2.) Finale : there is also a big problem: all ritardandi are not original Bruckner ( Nowak used brackets)..
Hear Furtwängler, Thielemann ( Dresden ) Abbado .and other conductors . Version Haas is correkt.
Ritardandos in the finale are absolutely authentic. They have been added by B after the first performance. Please check William Carragan's masterful article "those pesky ritardandos"
Not sure I really enjoy this performance. 1st & 2nd movements are played way way too fast. Also, even though the recording sound is good, Bruckner's wise use of silence means you need more resonance.
Agree
Wow! That's the first time I've ever heard anyone accusing Klemperer in his later years of taking any music too fast! lol.
Sublime! A purification of Wagner.
Musica per IL GIUDIZIO UNIVERSALE
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Musica per un giudizio universale.....
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A tiny racket in my opinion! I am not a clever person at all and this is. I'll stick with Venus by Holst and Art Garfunkel! I am glad I have heard some of these symphonies but I just can't appreciate them! I have rediscovered my own blissful unintelligence!
i'm convinced that whether you like a piece of music or not has nothing to do with intelligence :)
Surely artistic perceptions are a type of intelligence. I don't believe in cultural, artistic and intellectual snobbery though!
Yeah i also tend to assume that a person is not the brightest if he/she only listens mainstream radio music and never looks further than that. But aside from that, i don't think it says anything about your intelligence whether you're into classical symphonies, hip hop or death metal. Music is about taste... maybe you could say that sometimes, it takes intelligence to view that music is "objectively" well made, or to "understand" the lyrics of a song etc. But what you happen to LIKE is a very different thing and (as i see it) doesn't have to do with intelligence.
And even then, Gustav Holst or Simon & Garfunkel is not the type of music that i'd associate with stupid persons haha :p
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Nice i also like mussorgsky & cesar cui (well i only know Orientale tbh) and sometimes listen to metallica! Any other rock/metal bands you're into? I've been listening a lot of Pink Floyd lately
Haven't heard of the first 3 but i'll check them out, I can surely use classical music right now (#exams) ;)
cunno
Have you noticed this : the great Jews , Klemperer , Horenstein , Walter , (and Bernstein) are able to conduct gloriously (and even more of that) Bruckner , but the great Christians , Furtwängler , Kleiber , Knappertsbusch , completely paralysed on any Mahler's symphony .....
These comments are about music. Religion should stay out of it, IMO.
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Contradict what I am saying . Do not play censorship . Say that what I am saying is wrong .
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher Amazingly enough it seems true. Not even Jochum and Wand...
The pianist Vladimir Horowitz once said that "there's more music in a simple Chopin mazurka than there is in an entire Mahler symphony".
In any case, there's no such thing as "Jewish music", nor is there such a thing as "Christian music".
Also, Klemperer's rendition of the Scherzo of Bruckner's 7th (here) actually sounds relatively "paralyzed" , compared with Furtwangler's live 1949 recording with the Berlin Philharmonic. Furtwangler's performance conveys much more fire, fury and conviction than Klemperer's performance; which sounds tame, by comparison.
Furtwangler's performance brings out the spirit of this music much more effectively than does Klemperer's.
@@Ira5208 Actually, Klemperer's performance of Bruckner's 7th (here) sounds relatively tame, compared with Furtwangler's live 1949 performance of the work with the Berlin Philharmonic. Furtwangler brings out the spirit of this music much more effectively than does Klemperer, and his performance conveys much more fire, fury and passion than does Klemperer's. So Klemperer's performance is the one that sounds "paralyzed", relatively speaking.
Always feel that Bruckner wrote too many repeated phrases especially in build ups to his climaxes. This suggests to me that he wasn’t confident in trying to express that effect. The only other composer I can think of who is a bit like that is Sibelius. Other composers like Beethoven, Brahms, even Berlioz can build up drama and power far more concisely. For me this is the only issue I have with Bruckner...
Ah! but it's precisely in the repeated phrases that the power of Bruckner's build ups resides.