1) i just remember why i like boats 2) i just remember why i love this channel 3) i just realize that i work too much and enjoy too few !!! love the video !!! cheers from florida !
It was a really fun trip. Our boat isn't the ideal canal boat due to air and water draft -- we did touch bottom a couple of times -- but we would love to do more of the European canals.
A larger sailboat that arrived after us solved the problem by turning outside in the river and then backing the length of Nyhavn to the vacant spot that was available. So, for boats too big to turn in the harbor, there still are options.
That was our first time in Copenhagen and we loved it. It's a great city and visiting it off the center of the tourist season seems like a good approach. Even now, there are a lot of tourists.
Very nice. I liked that you kept the talking to a minimum, just focusing on important details and did not include any music. Nice change from a lot of videos of this type. Enjoy your trip. Thanks.
We've played around a bit with different formats trying to find approaches that are both viewable but also don't take too much time to make. We're failing on at least that second goals. It's hard to make videos efficiently.
Thanks but in close to 0 wind, it's pretty easy to move the boat around in close quarters. Now, when the wind starts to below you need to pay more attention. And, if the current is running hard, then lots of care is needed and you really need to think ahead.
Dutch barges are pretty common throughout continental Europe and there are many in the UK as well. That particular barge might be private but we thought it probably was a tour boat. We didn't see it move while we were in town.
As long as there is no wind or current, the boat handles very well. Because it's 55 tons, it's best not to let it build up speed in any direction. Patience is really all that is required. With 6'7" in the water, the boat is heavily impacted by current. And with 30' above the water, the wind has a big impact as well. With current or wind, the boat requires more attention but, otherwise, it's pretty easy.
Thanks. My slogan at the helm is "no wind and no current, no problem!" The only issue in close quarters operations is it helps to have someone at the rear of the boat calling distances but it's otherwise easy as long as we go slow. When there is current running or bigger winds, much more planning and care is required but this one was easy.
Exactly. Good hearing from you Ian! We just arrived at Den Helder Netherlands. Looks like a cool city. We're looking forward to heading up the Saint Lawrence some day. Hope to see you then if not before.
Now that's a tight turn! But a truly awesome spot! I think me and more people would be very interesting to see the manouvering proceedures, so if you rigged a camera in the pilot house it would be awesome to see the control input work being done, even if it's not detailed it would give a sense of how it is to pilot it. One thing that did not occur to me when I looked at sideways drawings was the sturn thruster, but a picture from below of the aft hull showed holes that looked like a sturn thruster, is that correct? I gues that makes life way easier when berthing sideways on only two people.
Yes, you are right there are both bow and stern thrusters and they are effective against steady winds of 20 to 25 kts (46 km/h). In light winds like those we saw when entering Copenhagen, the boat will essentially turn in place using the thrusters. Another approach is to "back and fill." In this approach, the rudder is hard over to the left and we'll apply throttle to get the turn started. Then apply reverse to take off any forward motion. Then apply another puff of throttle to continue the turn followed by again applying reverse to stop the forward motion. This technique also works well and in heavier winds, I'll often use both.
We keep intending to do a video every couple of weeks but there never seems to be enough time. We can't complain about too much good weather, great sites, and fun though. More frequent updates and boat location are up at: mvdirona.com/. We will work to get a few more videos done over the winter. Thanks for the encouragement.
Yes, there is some. The prop turns counter clockwise and the aft end will swing slightly towards the dock which is helpful when docking on the starboard side. But, the prop walk is fairly slight.
Hi - recently subscribed as I am looking at a Nordhavn as a high probability option for a six year out plan/design/build/commission goal. Your videos are very detailed and methodical - so I have an ask for you to consider. Could you possibly do a post, or series of posts, on the practical or utility elements of your trip I.e considerations/allowances/compromises/logistics of fresh water, grey water, power generation/consumption, liquid gas, diesel vs petrol, dingy fuel, oil changes and discarding ect ect these are not the sexy side of travelling but I assume are essential for trouble free sailing. Thanks and look forwards to more posts of your travels.
Good to hear you are planning for a boating future and a Nordhavn is part of your plans. We've loved ours. On your request for more information on the choices we made on this boat, we haven't done a video on the topic but have written lots about those decisions. A good starting point is: mvdirona.com/blog/content/binary/Hamilton_TF10_BuildingTrawlerWebPost.pdf. Another set of posts that are technically focused: mvdirona.com/category/technical/ And for other trawler-life and lifestyle issues, we make an effort to cover most of our decisions, all of our repairs and move the logistics on mvdirona.com.
MV Dirona Thank you - had a quick look through the site and it is exactly what I was looking for......problem now is having the discipline not to binge read the whole site....
It does have thrusters on both ends and in light winds the boat is happy to turn in it's own length. But, it's the one time that a small boat seems surprisingly large. You really need to watch both ends carefully to ensure there is sufficient space to operate. But, other than that, the boat is fairly cooperative in close quarters.
MV Dirona, Yes, and You passed the harbor of “Nordhavn” on your starboard hand, just as You entered the main canal. Nordhavn is a former industrial harbor and container terminal, and is now a cruiseship terminal as well as a business area. I actually believed, that the Nordhavn-brand was danish, but I was corrected very quickly. I have livet next to Nordhavn for many years, so it is fun to see a Nordhavn in Nyhavn 😊 I hope You enjoyed your stay in Copenhagen 😊🇩🇰🇺🇸
Our US ensign is easy to see at great distance and we broadcast AIS (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) so our position, name, and other ship data are all available in the world via Marinetraffic.com. Our boat position is also always shown in real time up on mvdirona.com/maps/. So, if a country hasn't checked with us already, they usually do fairly quickly and sometimes more than once. Last year the Netherlands came to visit 3 times. Finland did on each entry as did Sweden, Germany, and Denmark. The boarders aren't very visible but they seem to be monitored fairly carefully.
17th century Canal the Side Road looks like people over there like to ride their bikes more than their cars. Will be nice if we do that here in the San Francisco Bay Area. We're packed like sardines here when it comes to traffic.
Yes, both water and electricity are supplied. But the electrical connections at most Marinas in the area only offer 10A connections so it's a constrained resource. Our boat is setup so that we can plug into 2 shore power connections getting us 20A total which works fine.
Nice video, I just found Your channel, will follow you. What you are doing has been on my mind a few years.. I live in Malmö just across the Oresund bridge. Do you know you were very close to Nordhavn in Copenhagen? Probably where the founders of Nordhavn yachts originated.
Yes, it was pointed out to me that we were moored very close to Nordhavn. Although the boat manufacturer name does appear to come from Scandanavia (Norway has a Nordhavn as well), the company was founded and all the design work is done in Dana Point California.
There are lots of great things to cover using videos but you really need to be serious and invest fairly large amounts of time to produce presentable videos. They end up being a big investment of time so we prioritize enjoying our travels and our posts to mvdirona.com. But, despite the amount of time required to produce a video, we do enjoy them once they are done. We'll work at being more efficient at producing them which would allow us to do more.
We noticed that. It would have been fun to have a Nordhavn in Nordhavn but we really enjoyed our moorage not far away. Copenhagen was a great visit for us.
Awesome close quarters work! Looks like you have done this before! :) We hope to embark on a similar journey one day. Curious how you manage harbor entry protocol with all the different ports you enter. Do you utilize hardcopy pilot guides for each region you are in? Or something e-based? Thanks for sharing your journey and inspiring others!
No we don't have Pilot Guides for all regions we visit. We do have charts and most times we have both Cmap charts and Navionics charts available for use. In our opinion, both are of uneven quality but and the best choice varies with location so having both is nice. If there are cruising guides available in English, we often have them. For shore side visiting, we usually have a copy of the Lonely Planet. Usually the local cruising guides have the VTS channel numbers and a great reference for these data in Europe is Reeds Almanac (www.amazon.com/Reeds-Channel-Almanac-2019/dp/1472957555). Thanks to Michael & Frances Crofts who gave us a copy as a welcome to Europe present. Most ports also publish needed information on their website so, if none of those other choices show us want we want, we will lookup online data. The latter is almost always available but often not in an easy to find form but it's usually there.
I don't know but we do cover a lot of area having traveled this year from Amsterdam and visiting Sweden, Finland, Russia, and Denmark. You can see our path here: mvdirona.com/maps/. With all that travel, when we were in Copenhagen we had only fueled the boat twice in the entire year. Slow moving trawlers can be fairly fuel efficient.
The opera is an absolute gem. It's really a striking architectural feature in Copenhagen and, on the inside, it's a wonderful facility. We were lucky enough to be in Copenhagen during Culture Night (mvdirona.com/2019/10/culture-night/) and first spent a few hours with Maersk at their head quarters and then went over to the Opera and watched a mini-opera. It was pouring rain but even drenched, we really learned a lot and really enjoyed it.
Sorry Per Jörgensen,for my ”poor” english :) :) of course you don’t have any bears in wonderful Köpenhamn,but a lot of good places serving Tuborg(hver gang) and of course Carlsberg (with a nice commercial with Mads Mikkelsen) if someone want to see a bear,they better go to Grönland. Skål ;) ;)
Thanks for the feedback. Could you be more specific on the nature of the defect. Is it too quite or too much background noise or is something else bothering you?
Your probably right we could invest more in sound quality but we're probably never going to achieve a studio level quality on board. Thanks for passing on the advice on techniques we can use.
1) i just remember why i like boats
2) i just remember why i love this channel
3) i just realize that i work too much and enjoy too few !!!
love the video !!! cheers from florida !
Love it! Thanks for the feedback on the channel Perro.
That was the coolest 180 I've ever seen.
It was a really fun trip. Our boat isn't the ideal canal boat due to air and water draft -- we did touch bottom a couple of times -- but we would love to do more of the European canals.
Nice maneuvering into the dock, that was tight.
A larger sailboat that arrived after us solved the problem by turning outside in the river and then backing the length of Nyhavn to the vacant spot that was available. So, for boats too big to turn in the harbor, there still are options.
So beautiful boat ... so sad I was not home and see the boat in nyhavn
We had a wonderful stay in Copenhagen and we're looking forward to returning.
Another excellent video, thank you. Nice 180 as well 👍 Copenhagen is one of my favorite cities.
That was our first time in Copenhagen and we loved it. It's a great city and visiting it off the center of the tourist season seems like a good approach. Even now, there are a lot of tourists.
Very nice. I liked that you kept the talking to a minimum, just focusing on important details and did not include any music. Nice change from a lot of videos of this type. Enjoy your trip. Thanks.
We've played around a bit with different formats trying to find approaches that are both viewable but also don't take too much time to make. We're failing on at least that second goals. It's hard to make videos efficiently.
Wonderful video! You two make docking look so simple 👍 Enjoy your stay!
Thanks for the feedback on the video.
Well done!
Thanks but in close to 0 wind, it's pretty easy to move the boat around in close quarters. Now, when the wind starts to below you need to pay more attention. And, if the current is running hard, then lots of care is needed and you really need to think ahead.
Great spot to be in and also very good docking skills slow and steady. Very well played captain .
In close quarters, my favorite speed is slow :-).
Interesting Dutch-typed barge on the right side at 6:30. I wonder what it is doing there!
Dutch barges are pretty common throughout continental Europe and there are many in the UK as well. That particular barge might be private but we thought it probably was a tour boat. We didn't see it move while we were in town.
It amazes me how these boats are able to maneuver in very tight spaces. The operators must be very confident as well.
As long as there is no wind or current, the boat handles very well. Because it's 55 tons, it's best not to let it build up speed in any direction. Patience is really all that is required. With 6'7" in the water, the boat is heavily impacted by current. And with 30' above the water, the wind has a big impact as well. With current or wind, the boat requires more attention but, otherwise, it's pretty easy.
Showing your skills once again!
Thanks. My slogan at the helm is "no wind and no current, no problem!" The only issue in close quarters operations is it helps to have someone at the rear of the boat calling distances but it's otherwise easy as long as we go slow. When there is current running or bigger winds, much more planning and care is required but this one was easy.
Really amazing maneuvering in Nyhavn. Slow and very exact, it’s a delight to see. 👍👍👍
Yes, slow is a good tactic with 55 tons of boat. Arround a dock, most things that happen fast aren't good :-).
That was some slick docking ! Just like parking a land yacht Oldsmobile in the back lot at Tubman Chev - Olds. Nice one, congratulations !!!
Exactly. Good hearing from you Ian! We just arrived at Den Helder Netherlands. Looks like a cool city. We're looking forward to heading up the Saint Lawrence some day. Hope to see you then if not before.
I’m living in Scotland but seems I’ve missed you somehow.
Cool. We were there 3 summers back and really enjoyed it. This winter will be hanging out in Amsterdam.
What a magnificent location to dock in. Also, @30 secs you passed Nordhavn's namesake town to starboard :)
Yeah, it's kind of cool. We almost had a Nordhavn in Nordhavn.
Now that's a tight turn! But a truly awesome spot! I think me and more people would be very interesting to see the manouvering proceedures, so if you rigged a camera in the pilot house it would be awesome to see the control input work being done, even if it's not detailed it would give a sense of how it is to pilot it. One thing that did not occur to me when I looked at sideways drawings was the sturn thruster, but a picture from below of the aft hull showed holes that looked like a sturn thruster, is that correct? I gues that makes life way easier when berthing sideways on only two people.
Yes, you are right there are both bow and stern thrusters and they are effective against steady winds of 20 to 25 kts (46 km/h). In light winds like those we saw when entering Copenhagen, the boat will essentially turn in place using the thrusters. Another approach is to "back and fill." In this approach, the rudder is hard over to the left and we'll apply throttle to get the turn started. Then apply reverse to take off any forward motion. Then apply another puff of throttle to continue the turn followed by again applying reverse to stop the forward motion. This technique also works well and in heavier winds, I'll often use both.
Your back. Thank you!
We keep intending to do a video every couple of weeks but there never seems to be enough time. We can't complain about too much good weather, great sites, and fun though. More frequent updates and boat location are up at: mvdirona.com/. We will work to get a few more videos done over the winter. Thanks for the encouragement.
do you get much prop-walk in reverse?
Yes, there is some. The prop turns counter clockwise and the aft end will swing slightly towards the dock which is helpful when docking on the starboard side. But, the prop walk is fairly slight.
Copenhagen is a very nice city,good food and nice beer, at many nice restaurants. :) :)
pogump no we got no bears here but plenty of beers :-)
We found lots of good food, restaurants, and even a few good bears. Great visit.
Hi - recently subscribed as I am looking at a Nordhavn as a high probability option for a six year out plan/design/build/commission goal. Your videos are very detailed and methodical - so I have an ask for you to consider. Could you possibly do a post, or series of posts, on the practical or utility elements of your trip I.e considerations/allowances/compromises/logistics of fresh water, grey water, power generation/consumption, liquid gas, diesel vs petrol, dingy fuel, oil changes and discarding ect ect these are not the sexy side of travelling but I assume are essential for trouble free sailing. Thanks and look forwards to more posts of your travels.
Good to hear you are planning for a boating future and a Nordhavn is part of your plans. We've loved ours. On your request for more information on the choices we made on this boat, we haven't done a video on the topic but have written lots about those decisions. A good starting point is: mvdirona.com/blog/content/binary/Hamilton_TF10_BuildingTrawlerWebPost.pdf.
Another set of posts that are technically focused: mvdirona.com/category/technical/
And for other trawler-life and lifestyle issues, we make an effort to cover most of our decisions, all of our repairs and move the logistics on mvdirona.com.
MV Dirona Thank you - had a quick look through the site and it is exactly what I was looking for......problem now is having the discipline not to binge read the whole site....
Glad to hear it and thanks for the feedback.
Great job! What's the depth where you docked?
There was 16.6' of water at arrival time (2019/10/7@8:51am).
That's one tight 180 turn. Thrusters ftw.
It does have thrusters on both ends and in light winds the boat is happy to turn in it's own length. But, it's the one time that a small boat seems surprisingly large. You really need to watch both ends carefully to ensure there is sufficient space to operate. But, other than that, the boat is fairly cooperative in close quarters.
The port that gives the name to the shipyard! :)
Our boat is a Nordhavn 52 (nordhavn.com/models/n52/) so we had a Nordhavn in Nyhavn :-).
MV Dirona, Yes, and You passed the harbor of “Nordhavn” on your starboard hand, just as You entered the main canal. Nordhavn is a former industrial harbor and container terminal, and is now a cruiseship terminal as well as a business area.
I actually believed, that the Nordhavn-brand was danish, but I was corrected very quickly. I have livet next to Nordhavn for many years, so it is fun to see a Nordhavn in Nyhavn 😊
I hope You enjoyed your stay in Copenhagen 😊🇩🇰🇺🇸
A Nordhavn in Nordhavn would have been even better!
MV Dirona, yes, there is a small Marina in Nordhavn, but in Nyhavn You are in the middle of all of it, so good choice. Enjoy your trip onwards 😊
Wow , had that turn down to the nearest inch with no room to spare very smooth , immigration probs watch passage all ways in ready to pounce
Our US ensign is easy to see at great distance and we broadcast AIS (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) so our position, name, and other ship data are all available in the world via Marinetraffic.com. Our boat position is also always shown in real time up on mvdirona.com/maps/. So, if a country hasn't checked with us already, they usually do fairly quickly and sometimes more than once. Last year the Netherlands came to visit 3 times. Finland did on each entry as did Sweden, Germany, and Denmark. The boarders aren't very visible but they seem to be monitored fairly carefully.
They don't do that state side as much.
The US does it too. We were last boarded entering the harbor in Brunswick Georgia: th-cam.com/video/sIqPMCM-9Y8/w-d-xo.html.
Do you have a site where you discuss some practical issues of entering a new country such as arranging for birth, customs, visas etc?
That is not the specific focus but we do post a lot of data to mvdirona.com.
17th century Canal the Side Road looks like people over there like to ride their bikes more than their cars. Will be nice if we do that here in the San Francisco Bay Area. We're packed like sardines here when it comes to traffic.
Yes, I agree. Perhaps only after Amsterdam, Copenhagen has to be one of the most dependent on bicycle transportation of the world's major cities.
This dock offer water and power ?
Yes, both water and electricity are supplied. But the electrical connections at most Marinas in the area only offer 10A connections so it's a constrained resource. Our boat is setup so that we can plug into 2 shore power connections getting us 20A total which works fine.
Nice video, I just found Your channel, will follow you. What you are doing has been on my mind a few years.. I live in Malmö just across the Oresund bridge. Do you know you were very close to Nordhavn in Copenhagen? Probably where the founders of Nordhavn yachts originated.
Yes, it was pointed out to me that we were moored very close to Nordhavn. Although the boat manufacturer name does appear to come from Scandanavia (Norway has a Nordhavn as well), the company was founded and all the design work is done in Dana Point California.
Great vid ya'll, are you going to start putting out vids on a regular basis? Thank you.
There are lots of great things to cover using videos but you really need to be serious and invest fairly large amounts of time to produce presentable videos. They end up being a big investment of time so we prioritize enjoying our travels and our posts to mvdirona.com. But, despite the amount of time required to produce a video, we do enjoy them once they are done. We'll work at being more efficient at producing them which would allow us to do more.
And comming in to the inner habour of CPH, you pass Nordhavn, wich is the name of the northmost part of CPH´s habour
We noticed that. It would have been fun to have a Nordhavn in Nordhavn! We had a great visit to Copenhagen.
We noticed that. It would have been fun to have a Nordhavn in Nordhavn! We had a great visit to Copenhagen.
We noticed that. It would have been fun to have a Nordhavn in Nordhavn but we really enjoyed our moorage not far away. Copenhagen was a great visit for us.
Awesome close quarters work! Looks like you have done this before! :) We hope to embark on a similar journey one day. Curious how you manage harbor entry protocol with all the different ports you enter. Do you utilize hardcopy pilot guides for each region you are in? Or something e-based? Thanks for sharing your journey and inspiring others!
No we don't have Pilot Guides for all regions we visit. We do have charts and most times we have both Cmap charts and Navionics charts available for use. In our opinion, both are of uneven quality but and the best choice varies with location so having both is nice. If there are cruising guides available in English, we often have them. For shore side visiting, we usually have a copy of the Lonely Planet. Usually the local cruising guides have the VTS channel numbers and a great reference for these data in Europe is Reeds Almanac (www.amazon.com/Reeds-Channel-Almanac-2019/dp/1472957555). Thanks to Michael & Frances Crofts who gave us a copy as a welcome to Europe present. Most ports also publish needed information on their website so, if none of those other choices show us want we want, we will lookup online data. The latter is almost always available but often not in an easy to find form but it's usually there.
@@MVDirona Thank you for the information!
How much fuel have you used?
I don't know but we do cover a lot of area having traveled this year from Amsterdam and visiting Sweden, Finland, Russia, and Denmark. You can see our path here: mvdirona.com/maps/. With all that travel, when we were in Copenhagen we had only fueled the boat twice in the entire year. Slow moving trawlers can be fairly fuel efficient.
@@MVDirona when older will try to have one of this !!
The opera was a gift from Maersk to the State of Denmark.
The opera is an absolute gem. It's really a striking architectural feature in Copenhagen and, on the inside, it's a wonderful facility. We were lucky enough to be in Copenhagen during Culture Night (mvdirona.com/2019/10/culture-night/) and first spent a few hours with Maersk at their head quarters and then went over to the Opera and watched a mini-opera. It was pouring rain but even drenched, we really learned a lot and really enjoyed it.
You guys did this on purpose a Nordhavn in Nyhavn
What's even funnier is that Nyhavn is just a couple of miles south of Nordhavn. We almost had a Nordhavn in Nordhavn!
@@MVDirona keep up the vids,Iam living your adventures through this device.
Thanks for the feedback on the videos and have a good holiday season.
Sorry Per Jörgensen,for my ”poor” english :) :) of course you don’t have any bears in wonderful Köpenhamn,but a lot of good places serving Tuborg(hver gang) and of course Carlsberg (with a nice commercial with Mads Mikkelsen) if someone want to see a bear,they better go to Grönland. Skål ;) ;)
We're not the biggest fans of Tuborg and Carlsberg but found lots of beers in Copenhagen that we did enjoy.
Now that's what I call a parking job!
Thanks. As long as the wind's not blowing and there isn't much current, slow and patient generally is all you need.
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the sound is not good I am quite disappointed
Thanks for the feedback. Could you be more specific on the nature of the defect. Is it too quite or too much background noise or is something else bothering you?
Hope you won't mind some constructive advice. Back off the mic and get a pop screen. Cheers.
Your probably right we could invest more in sound quality but we're probably never going to achieve a studio level quality on board. Thanks for passing on the advice on techniques we can use.