Paul McBeth Throws Shots At Disc Golfers
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- The first week of the off-season was a bit slow yet Paul McBeth throws shots at Paul Ulibarri and Brodie Smith for using his name for clout.
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Disc Golf World, I appreciate you posting these clips. Of course not everyone is going to agree with my takes. My post got made about me against Mcbeth, I used the most popular player ever as a example, just to point out what I think is a problem. Not to call him out. I shouldn’t have used a guarantee in my take because people change. Keep doing work my friend.
Appreciate your time watching the video and everything you’ve done and are doing for our sport. And thanks for taking care of my friend Olly in NC for the Championship. People like you are the real reason I give everything for this sport - Jefferson
🤣 Sounds like someone realized they burned a bridge and now they're trying to keep it from falling completely apart.
I disagree that Uli thought he burned a bridge, I watched that podcast and heard them bring it back up on the next. I agree that he was using a popular player to point out a problem with ratings... #goatsh!t..🤷♂️
Uli!!! I stumbled on this video at random and had no clue about the "drama" but from this video alone, I feel like the message you were trying to get across just wasn't done clearly and that since you used McBeth as an example in it...he took it as a diss or a slight. After hearing you talk on Jomez during coverage and other podcasts I don't believe you ment any ill will by saying what you did and only used McBeth as an example because he is the most well know Pro on tour(to die hards and normies) .
I hope that whatever the case, you and Paul can reconcile and move past it. I look forward to seeing you play next season and hope you land on more feature cards on Jomez.
I think Paul is right. Paul made some good points, but ultimately Paul made a more convincing argument.
Paul is only a few players or only player who at this point, can play whatever and whenever he wants to play. He has other responsibilities in disc golf other than playing, like his foundation. To many, like me, he is the GOAT.
it hurts me to admit but yes... see, i am that guy that bonds to the "underdog"... got into disc golf the year Paul beat like 19 year old Ricky W in sudden death for worlds... so to me Ricky was immediately "my guy" and Paul was the establish brute to over come... years later Ricky W is still the guy I want to win and Paul was not "surpassed"... McBeast is disc golf, he is the GOAT until someone can come along and put a dozen years together like he did (and he is still so good even though really into charity and the business side he will still win a few more majors down the road)
McBeth won this exchange, for sure, in my opinion. I'm glad he weighed in, since it's nice to hear what he actually thinks rather than speculation.
I think the only way to say McBeth won this exchange is to discount what Uli said as a lie. Do you think Uli lied? McBeth's entire argument is that what was said wasn't true, but he didn't even address the fact that Uli said he was quoting a conversation between the two, NOT putting words in McBeth's mouth. So either Uli is right or he's a liar. Do you think he's lying?
@@willrichtor I don't think Uli was lying, although it's possible he was mistaken when quoting someone from 8 years ago. Even if he was accurate though, the only thing he quoted was McBeth saying "he'd play a non-sanctioned or charity event before a C tier." The reason as to Paul would prefer that is speculation. Paul explained why he was upset about the C tier result on his record (tied for worst finish of the year when it was supposed to be a fun exhibition event).
@@willrichtor I think that if the point you're trying to make is based off some comment from 8 years ago, unless you have a way to prove whatever was said, it's no longer valid. It seems like a very desperate way to try to make a point.
That's some stuff a woman would do, remember you said 10 years ago you liked to travel, and now you won't go on vacation with me?!?!
I recently tagged Gannon in a facebook auction for an AJ Destroyer, shouting out that he's been rumored to have been bidding on some. He confirmed he's been on the hunt, but only because he lost Big Jerm's favorite AJ Destroyer.
Atlanta braves were the best baseball team this year by far. Rangers won the World Series. Being clutch counts for a lot.
I love Brodie but he talks before he thinks way too often.
I hate Brodie and he talks before he thinks way too often.
@@eleven9286 Same I do not like him, he barely squeaked onto the Pro Tour then is using his former Ultimate fame to capitalize on being a popular disc golfer rather then getting better at being a disc golfer. Does Brodie know that whatever brand he is with, they probably have a few catch/bigger discs that Brodie could legally use in PDGA tournaments that could be to his advantage?
@@caseysmith544what discs r u talking about with Discraft
@@danielhicks5031 The UltraStar and UltraStar JR are PDGA approved as is the Sky Styler and there was another all araound disc similar to the Sky Styler, Sky Streak also PDGA approved. The first 3 would be ones he could use but I wonder if Brodie knows he can legally use those discs. They also have the Rattler/used to have Rattler as a Disc Golf putter sized version of the UltraStar/JR that went up to 175--176 grams for the max weight.
Facts!!! Personally, I think he needs to peel away some of that focus on always having something to say and shift that energy over to finally becoming a consistent player worthy of the attention he gets. For now he is just that guy who constantly has to have an opinion or hot take on everything and still cannot even compete with the top 10 pros during the season. Basically, hearing his take on everything is getting old....shut up and play better...
There's my "Brodie" level hot take....🤣
All part of the show, Brodie realizes that and gives us some extra entertainment, much appreciated amidst some of the cardboard personalities ! Nikko's the horned GOAT !
McBeth took the W on this one.
The language used in the IG thread is not language of those that are on good terms :/
I’ve met all three of them several times. And all truth. Mcbeth was the absolute most genuine. Nice, approachable. Actually taking interest in what I was saying. Felt like an actual conversation with a friend.
The others unfortunately didn’t have that experience. They could have been having off days. But stark contrast
Yeah, McBeth was super nice when I met him and Hannah. Haven't met the others in person.
Honestly I see the World Tournament the same way golfers see the Masters. It’s the most prestigious major tournaments. Some people would change a great season for it, but not a Fed Ex Cup
I saw the Instagram exchange and thought it was more like "Disc Golfers Throw Shots at Paul McBeth."
Another fire appearance from Jackson with some SUPER HOT takes. Love the heat. Keep up the good work.
I disagree with your take on Worlds. The sport NEEDS a huge event. The sport needs that premiere event. Makes it so much more exciting and excessable to the outside world
Yeah we need drama not downplaying any attempt at it
I think we get too caught up in ratings. Ratings are fun and I do think they have some practical uses. That being said, I honestly couldn't tell you what Mcbeast rating is or most any of the pros. Yet I think Paul Mcbeth is the greatest player of all time because he wins, and wins in biggest moments. Ratings don't equate greatness.
McBeth wins for giving relevant context and making a cogent defence of his issue (being dragged into the disc golf basement because someone thinks he thinks something). Uli may have an opinion on a comment made by McBeth 8 years ago but to confidently use that comment to state what McBeth thinks, that is presumptive and as we heard from PM himself, it was incorrect.
I believe Paul did the tournament because of Rancho El Camino being involved in that C Tier? He has stated multiple times about his Latino heritage and supporting them and the such.
In 2021 he played in a B Tier but it was The Battle for Bedford in Virginia. That is because one of his friends and at the time a co-owner with him at the time of Foundation Discs was TD.
In 2020 he also played in that the same event a B tier. He played in another B Tier but this one was in Williamsburg, Virginia. I assume he must live close to this one was well and was during the off season. So this proves maybe slightly that he would play in lower tiers if it's close. Helps he won $700 for winning. To put that into perspective, he earns $1,000,000 a year. That is $19,230.76 a week. $700 is not worth it for someone making that much in 7 days doing nothing when he had to play 2 days to earn $350 a day.
His next B tier was in 2018. His next was Wintertime Open in 2017 that he has gone to for years and Idlewild in 2017 which is a Elite Series/DGPT event now.
This goes on but it seems like he was picky and choosy on where he went and if he played less than an A tier he had a good reason.
Uli can use Chandler Fry as an example. He shot -19 at an event in Kenya and was only rated 1055. Granted it was 41 points above his rating. That is insane when ratings start to degrade in being useful. Granted the guy who took second, shot -14 and was rated 966. Even Zoey AnDyke shot -10 and Raven Klein shot -6. There are just some courses where you can shoot birdie or eagle on every hole and still not get a rating that might be deserved. Lets assume McBeth went there and shot -20 and got every hole and eagled both par 4s. That is what 1063?
The B tier in Williamsburg VA gets crazier too btw. Paul showed up to caddie for Hannah. The pros in the field talked him into playing however, he didn't have his bag or discs on him. So he got some discs from some of the discraft guys that morning and played the first round with 3? (Maybe 5 I forget) discs........
Soooooo ya that happened 😅
Brody and Ulibarri are like the high school friends who were the class clowns. Never grew up socially nor intellectually. McBeth is THE GOAT
Being the best takes way more nerve than making comments. I like Uli and Brodie, and I would also like to see them trade in their squawk time to find out for themselves how much nerve they can still develop.
Clearly wants to be number one in the world…… you can tell by all the big events he played this season ……nobody who only wants to be number one in the world would take basically an entire season away from the tour with the best players
Lets go Rick!
Brodie Smith hasn't been in disc golf long enough to finish a cup of coffee. So I have literally flushed things that matter more to me than his opinion. Hes clearly more concerned with his social media presence than getting better at disc golf. Mark my words, its only a matter of time before his "hot takes" cost him his sponsors. I am, however, a fan of Uli. Even though his take on Mcbeth may be off, i do agree with his take on the current ratings system. At least he has been around long enough to be a credible spokesperson.
I've participated in several Micd up practice rounds and of the 3 amigos Uli is by far the coolest and down to earth players. He has a great story of his start in disc golf and the struggles he had to overcome in his youth are something everyone should know and respect Uli for rising up and being a solid part of disc golf
Worlds is like The Masters. It isn’t the Tour Championship it’s just a Major but it’s probably the most coveted major in golf and everyone knows it and it’s never been a problem. The only problem with Worlds is the name and implication that it means you are some season champion like other sports. I think it’s fine being the biggest tournament of the year I think most people just can’t get over the name”Pro Worlds” and winning makes them a World Champion not a Pro Worlds Champion. It’s all in the name.
Professionals should act like professionals and not like middle school kids on Myspace from 2007
I honest to God think Paul U has dyslexia. He types like my dad might (who's dyslexic) and also was a great disc golfer lol.
I think you're right. The way he can never get the word "foliage" right also adds to the evidence 😂
Most of these disc golfers have very little education to be fair xD
Pretty sure uli is a high school drop out.
Braves had the winningist record this season and got knocked out round one. Still set a lot of records, but didn't get the World Series...
Batman goes undefeated... Get smoked by a freshman team from Florida in championship...
You want to recognized as the champion, you got to close.
The amount of d riding yall doing for mcbeth is wild. Uli is literally sharing what mcbeth said to him. Now his mindset could have changed but that’s what was said.
"literally sharing" Yeah, something from 8 years ago, sure he has that committed to memory verbatim.🤣 That's like going to someone and saying remember when I borrowed you that $1 back in 2015, time to pay up. It's odd you would even remember something like that, even more odd you're going to circulate it publicly almost a decade later.
Lol Brodie was a pandemic fad and he knows it so he has to do stuff like this to stay relevant
So effing true...
Big Mouth more than Dark Horse. They need to make the Big Mouth Bass/Buzz happen.
He has been a fad in 2019 when he got on the Pro Tour in 2019 being the former top rated Ultimate player in the top Ultimate league in the USA. That was cool but then he started speaking and did not know what to say or how to say what he wants about disc golf, so he lost popularity after 2020.
Lol that isn't true at all. He still is one of the highest sellers of discs.
@@danday9697 And what are you basing that on? Provide some data to support your claim.
Cycling is the same way. And they celebrate that rider all year by wearing the world champion jersey.
Mcbeth on the mic drop with his last comment 🎤
MaCbeth won that for sure and it's backed by evidence of events he chooses to play.
Do Ulibarri and McBeth have beef with each other? What’s the story there?
Nope.
probably just spending too much time with Brodie
eagles step putt was already on tour late this year wut
The current rating system is fine for ams. Once you designate "professional", you should be a part of some ranking system like golf has. I don't know the best solution, but I agree it doesn't make sense for pros.
Make it like they do in the NBA - you have the regulat season MVP (heimburg) and the world champion, who wins the finals (robinson).
Two different awards and all is good.
World champ does not have to be the best player of the year.
Bhur gets picked up by Kastapast and is the face for HOD new acquisition
Don’t worry who is best in the world. Just keep winning.
Paul pretty much put his .... in their mouth.... Brodie & Uli are creating a group of ppl who can't stand em.... might wanna not fuxx with the GOAT
My English is bad, but did I understand that the winner of the world championship would no longer be the best player in the world? Although every player values the world championship the most and it is the tournament where the pressure is the biggest. I quote Mcbeth, "I don't know how many elite series wins I have, but I do know how many Major wins Climo have, Ricky have and I have." The truth is, majors are what matters and the world championship is the biggest major.
Worlds should just be the last tournament of the year. Also should take place in other countries than the US
What I would like to see is McBeth to come back to the tour to compete with everyone again. I don’t think he will have the level of success that he had in past years but I’m sure he would do well and it would be good for the league.
Yeah, can't wait for him to play again and hope the injury is healing well.
The league? 😂
look how many big name pros are playing the Big Arm Challenge in Phx. . .I dont think the Tier is the argument, it is more of who is playing the event
Brodie has so much to Thank Paul Mc for opening the door to disc golf for him.
Uli is a solid player that been on tour for a long time and has never been able to step up to Paul's level regardless if he is team Capt. It's inherently wrong to ever speak for another person or repeat private conversation to the public. Gossip is the result of Sour Grapes 🍇
its really normal to have 1 tournement called "world championship" and it still don't mean you have been the best player that year. It brings more eyes on the tournement and abit extra hype and more to look forward/back to..
Nah. Uli is getting annoying with his ego. Dude has so much to say and is now a lifetime brand ambassador for Discraft, and for what? Bad take and a bad look as a team captain arguing with his teammate.
I think once you hit the tour maybe ratings should go away. I think they have a point about them screwing things up on that level.
Idk
Yes, and at events that are not Pro Tour they get to play for rating, and have to keep that up too then in offseason just to stay on the Pro Tour? I think that PDGA needs to reconfigure the Pro Tour Ratings to have them match the other events off tour by simply taking into account the top players or at least a good portion are going to be playing in the Pro Tour event that weekend.
They need to make it simpler that's for sure, right now it's as belieavble as pro boxing ratings.
@@FuckGoogle2 Problem with Pro Boxing is the fact there is too many equal top level boxing organizations with only the Olympics every 4 years being higher ranked. In Disc Golf the Ratings need to be fixed for play so that Pro Tour does not inflate ratings.
Paul McBeth won this argument. He's a winner.
🤮
@@Dav963You ever met Paul? He's a fantastic person.
So if there were no worlds, would the tour season just fizzle out at the end with no climax? I understand as a player that it's frustrating and stressful that one tournament has so much importance but that's how virtually every organized sport goes and it's the big event at the end of the season that is the most fun as a spectator. Think about how many non-football fans watch the super bowl
Gannon probably goes discmania. Alden might do the same.
The dgpt points system is a joke. Every round should count. if you can't keep it together for all rounds, you don't win the championship. If pro disc golfers had enough expendable income, they could cherry pick their best courses and not even worry about playing the rest as long as they finished well. What kind of championship is that? A championship is about consistency, playing smart, and being the best. It should be a standalone series and not piggybacked on top of other tournaments. You want Elite? MAKE IT ELITE.
Redo the points system so you get points based on difficulty of course and your score (or something similar). Paul M. was the victor in that exchange with reasons and explanations. Getting tired of Bitching & Whining Brodie. Heard he wasn’t a great guy when young kids wanted autographs, he would scoff afterwards. I don’t bore myself with the Foundation material.
Paul 🐐🐐🐐🐐 mcbeth
Why not do what the pga tour does and establish a Q school? Then have the majors have their own set of qualifications similar to the way its done on the pga tour? When you make the pro tour your rating shouldnt matter for the rest of the year and your standing is based soley on finishes. There isnt enough money in disc currently to use tournament winnings so you would have to create a points system that would reward the top however many players with dgpt tour cards allowing those players to play in all dgpt events with those without a card getting sponsor exemptions or have to qualify the monday before the event. The silver series or whatever they are called now would serve as the feeder tour into the dgpt similar to how the korn ferry tour is for the pga.
I'm not a pdga member, I think rankings are more inportant tha ratings because earlier this year a Japanese man was the highest rated player but he had never played against the best in the world. When he did play against the best he was no longer the highest rated player, so ratings don't tell the whole truth.
It's disc golf not performing CPR or an emergency tracheotomy. My god it's disc golf
pro tip: when commentating on a paul v paul battle use last names only
k thanks
Uli and Mcbeth made valid points. Uli brought up something in the past that probably was true but also doesnt carry as much weight to this debate or to a 2023 PMcB, lets say. McBeth defended his points well, even if he didnt really need to. Brodie? Made no points and has no historical sports relevance to be taken seriously. No thanks bud.
I won’t be back on Wednesday.BS is not my thing
Mcbeth seems to confirm that he in fact said he would play non sanctioned events over C tier events. I'm not sure anyone "won" this argument. Uli was making assertions based on outdated information from eight years ago. Mcbeth then disputes that it is true. Either what he said at the time was out of frustration, he changed his opinion since the comment was made, or maybe that was never intended to be a public comment, and he is refuting it for PR reasons. Ultimately it sounds like at least Uli and Brodie were stirring the pot. Mcbeth is either stirring with them, or ended up in the pot. It is all publicity for Discraft.
The question is not he would rather play a non sanctioned event in 2015, it's that's the case. I think Uli was saying it's because of ratings, and McBeth is saying it's not.
I understand that the context was in a discussion about ratings, but I have not seen the entire conversation. In the clip shown in this video, Uli may have implied, but did not say that Mcbeth would prefer non sanctioned events because of ratings. In addition, I find Mcbeths argument that he never cared about his ratings, only about being the best, a bit dubious. Ratings are not perfect, but are arguably the most accurate way to measure the best disc golfer. It is difficult for me to understand why he would care so much about an insignificant 3rd place in a single tournament, as to cause him to favor non sanctioned events. I admit though I don't see why the ratings change from that single event would matter much either to him. Having said all that, you make a valid point. It is possible that the context provided in this video did not show how explicitly Uli was linking ratings to Mcbeths hypothetical actions. It is also possible that for whatever reason Mcbeth genuinely never cared about ratings, but cared about placement stats. I'm not a world champ, I'm not even Uli lol. Honestly I like both Pauls, I kind of hope that Mcbeth is just feeding the controversy for all around publicity for team Discraft.
So much drama to keep up with, I just want to know when the JomezPro putting game is coming back 😩
Is McBeth trolling Brodie or is he a fan of the show? Or is he looking for some issue to pounce on.
Damn lol
Gee, what a surprise, someone involved with brodie running their mouth and causing drama. When you know you'll never win a tournament and your play doesn't keep you relevant, create a bunch of podcasts complaining about all the things you don't like about the sport.
2015... lol 8 years ago drama?
i agree Greg Barsby and Paige Shue have not been on top steadily, and have not won many PDGA majors except for the one world title they both got. They are good players but not World Champions, that title is soft.
Imo leave the man alone he sh😢ould be allowed to play wherever he wants I'm sure those tournaments love to have him there to also promote the sport of disc golf so get over yourselves climo catches grief too come on man
Really? Have you been in Las Vegas in the summer time?
Mcbeth hosed those two. They are all on his coattails and all he has to say is GET BETTER AND KEEP MY NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH HOES
Pros shouldn’t have a rating, it is pointless.
I dont care how good he is Paul's carboard boring personality grates on me.. And McB's take is bs..
Brodie and Uli are adding entertainment. don’t get so triggered. Paul won obviously. Anyone could win an argument against entertainment
I'm still struggling to understand how people think that other people putting too much emphasis on the worlds is bad... I can't comprehend how someone else's opinion of something would matter to someone else. WHO CARES IF I THINK WORLDS IS THE BIGGEST TOURNEY, IT IS!! How does me thinking this effect you or anything else on planet Earth in any way?
Hey guys, blue is the most common favorite color in the world, this is unacceptable! We must make people like orange!!!
This is a prime example of why no one should admire and worship Brody and Ulibarri
McBeth crying again...
These dudes bitching at each other on social media like a bunch of women is funny as hell. They all see each other during half the year, they should just talk it out. You know, like men! Haha
Look love yall but that worlds take is ass. What are you supposed to do, not have a season-ending most important tournament? As you mentioned, whoever wins the WORLD SERIES for an American sport for example often changes. That's the point. Nobody is claiming them as the absolute world best. Worlds is important just like any other sports "world championship" is important. Not everyone is a follower of every game, but we all watch the superbowl
The more Mcbeth talks the less I like him. Not sure why but some people have that ability
Gay
Paul McBeth is a human being, not a goat. When he begins to 'nay' and chew grass, I'll call him a goat, not until then. It's cool you guys made little baskets for the round things to go into. Not as satisfying as hitting a tree, butt hay. Someone should make those things out of plastic or something, that "chain sound" is getting annoying.
Tired. Really bad for the sport. Bringing drama for likes.
Worlds is overvalued considering it’s at a different course every year
The Discraft team meetings have to be awkward as fuck now days lol.
So listen…. Brodie is a professional TH-camr and blogger and Internet personality. He knows how to stay relevant and in the mix. I don’t know him personally and can’t say for sure but he keeps his name in the “drama/news” constantly. And I’d bet this is a business move as much as him just being himself.
Uli just got married. Pretty sure he doesn’t care much about spelling tweets right this week.
That or Paul Ulibarri has to have some kind of Dyslexia combined with not using spell check.
I'd take it as a diss if my spouse was spending time shitposting on my honeymoon but that's just me.
Never was good at spelling, or grammar. If I post, it’s well thought out I promise that. Like I’m pretty sure I messed up with this message. I just literally don’t know. 🤷♂️