I wish they OSU & WSU could go to the B12. I bet they do too. Pretty sure the B12 would love to have them if only to stay ahead on growth, and get a foothold in the NW. Problem is that every time they invite a new member, every current member breaks off a piece of their media earnings. Maybe Yormak will continue to be aggressive, and can renegotiate w/ linear parters/Fox & ESPN? Maybe add a streaming component? If the B12 can get even more $ and more broadcasting windows in exchange for more schools, it’s a no brainer. WSU had many more TV viewers than most of the B12 schools in 2022 while OSU was still competitive. The campuses & cultures are similar to key B12 programs too. Long shot, but 🤞
This is stupid a money saver I guess. What's next paying high school players to not smoke dope and having only one conference for hundreds of colleges. I can see it now the Rose Bowl Big 12 against the Big 12 which is actually the Big 160 plus@@Fatta007
As someone who watched Pat at WVU during the golden era of mountaineer football, it brings a tear to my eye to hear him still love us so fondly. Morgantown knows what’s UP on gameday
As an Oregon fan, it does make me sad as well that the civil war is not going to be a thing anymore after almost 100 years. Smh after oregon state went 10-3 and just had a whole bunch of stadium renovations, they did them dirty.
Plenty of teams play rivalry games outside of their conference. Look at Iowa/Iowa St, Louisville/Ky, Clemson/SC, Georgia/Georgia Tech, FSU/Florida. The rivalry can still happen
@@TheMedsYouNeedyou’re right. But we’re lamenting the tradition. The timing, the weather, all of it. The Civil War, or whatever they call it now (even though nobody does) was a must watch game for me every year. And I have no ties to UO, OSU, nor the state of Oregon.
In my opinion there was never a need for super conferences. The old Fashioned Pac 12 , Big 10 (not Big 16), SEC, etc were good enough. The rivalry weeks are disappearing and the bowl season luster. This is a shame because its a great thing to have an actual college football playoff now instead of the BCS or voting for a champ.
America wouldn’t let this happen, especially not in college football. Regardless of how bad a team may be one year, dropping from the SEC to the ACC wouldn’t make sense
Honestly this whole ordeal has really put a damper on colleges as a whole. If youre not specifically a football player, you do not mattwr to the school at all. And if you are a football player, you only matter because some 60 year old business guy cant catch a ball. Absolutely disgusted at my alma mater ASU for continually putting money first and then shitting on everything that actually matters.
That's all true. Eventually the minor sports will be relegated to club status. Schools won't want to bother paying for them nor flying them.. feeding them..and hoteling them all over the country.
Football pays the bills...like it or not these TV deals arnt being made for the other sports for the most part, having a successful football team means you can spend money in other programs
Its rough bro, I'm on the west coast, so it will be cool catching the hawks out here now, but they will have to realign the divisions you just can't take all the Pac 12 schools coming and throw them in the west. That will be a gimmick.
@@edwarddailey21big 10 is dissolving conferences from what I hear, I'm interested in how the games will plan out...as a long time Michigan fan im upset Ohio State won't be the last regular season game anymore
that is sad how bad College Football has fallen. The Pac 12 has a lot of good rivalries it's so sad games like Oregon- Oregon State, and Washington State- Washington probably won't be played after this year
@diskonnekt1313 you guys? Ucla usc Oregon and uw are the exact people crying about "paying their fair share" they destroyed a 100+ year old conference to chase a bag. I'm generally pretty libertarian, but yeah. In this case all these boujee colleges should pay taxes on their billion dollar business.
I agree with the Missouri head coach. The schools have lost sight of the student athletes and have focused exclusively on the money. Conference realignment for other sports is a net negative. More travel, longer hours, less sleep, poor health, poor performance inside classroom and out. Call me naive all you want, but what is the purpose of going to college? To get a degree so that the 99% of football players who don't go to the NFL can have a career to fall back on. What do you suppose the percentages are for basketball & baseball?
This perspective is the definition of ingenious. Every sports media outlet is covering this topic similarly, but yet none of them were willing to risk their own money for a PAC-12 television deal. It’s nothing more than to cover their own asses. To act like student athletes are at a disadvantage is a complete joke. These are students that get early registration, extra extension on school work, free tutoring etc. While in the meantime there’s other students that are working at bars until 2 a.m to pay for their own education that get no benefits. Tough luck that’s the reality of the world. At the end of the day student athletes will eventually benefit from the revenue that’s drawn in from these super conferences through NIL deals. The number one cause of negative mental health is being stagnant, never heard someone that’s busting their ass, complain about being sad.
@@BlueMax717 Exactly. That’s just some of the players. The vast majority of student athletes make something of their education, and their life after college sports. I see them all over the workforce. They’re usually called mgr., boss, CE something, or VP. Remember also that most of them play sports that we don’t watch on Saturdays in the fall.
Those rivalries don't need to be dead, Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year dispite not being in the same conference and GT not being relavant since the 50s outside of 3 freak seasons.
As a WSU fan. Knowing that our current QB is a absolute BALLER in Cameron Ward. And being the only fan in a family of Huskies fans. This is potentially DEVASTATING 💔 How could there be no Apple Cup? No rivalry between the 2? This might be the most heartbreaking thing. It's truly sad watching the PAC-12 fall apart smh. Our QB is a STUD go watch his highlights from last year. It's insanely athletic...
@@WiddlPeppuwu-sx3rxit's probably going to be like Utah and BYU rivalry was while Utah was in the PAC and BYU was independent. Early in the year when neither is at their peak, on and off from year to year. I'm glad the holy war is back to being a yearly thing. But sad other rivalries are going on the back burner.
Getting so tired of having to pay for streaming at this point. I pay more for streaming than my cable at this point. How much do they think people are going to continue to stream everything at this point?
@@chudmuffin0 True and while more hardcore fans like me will do that, i'm just concerned about the lack of growth of the sport in this country. The NFL are pushing for a UK franchise and see this as its 2nd biggest market, yet our broadcasters have zero interest in broadcasting college football, yet pretty much the rest of Europe gets access to it. Just pisses me off!
@adamweishaupt2846 "Our broadcasters have zero interest in broadcasting college football"....what are you talking about? If broadcasters had no interest, then why are they paying big time money for broadcasts rights to conferences? You just saw the numbers on that graphic they showed. Any given Saturday, you can have 10 channels showing 10 different college football games at the same time. There is big time interest in college football.
Forget football, think of the other sports that don't get the same funding. Oregon traveling to Rutgers for golf? Or USC to Maryland for baseball? Or BYU to UCF for track and field? It's absurd!
I agree, better yet they should just give them contracts. I do know though that a few schools have sponsors that donate to everyone on the team, even if they aren't on scholarship
@sandzjapan Beavs just aren't a big brand. Washington and Oregon put out good volleyball and softball teams which are the two fastest rising sports among the US youth.
WSU has been in the top 20 on the regular for the last 25 years. Now they’re in what’s left of the PAC 10 or 12 or whatever, and it’s dumb. The PAC10 used have the Rose Bowl, and every team in the nation wanted a piece of that game. Give it another 15 years and the college game will be bigger than the NFL, same as when football was getting started back in the 1920-1950s.
NCAA Football was once worth watching. Now, not so much. Schools and conferences only care about revenue. They couldn't care less about the players and fans.
College football is no longer student athletes. It is now a professional league as players can go to a portal where other teams can pick them up with no consequence to player or teams. Also there is even more money involved than ever before.
Because the west coast, and especially california. They dont care at all about college football. You see no billboards or even hear anything college on the radio out here. Its all about the pro teams
Then, things have changed drastically in the last 10-15 years. That was the reason why LA didn't have any NFL teams. They only cared about the college teams.
As an Oregon State alum, they did us dirty. Finally getting forward momentum with a great coach and players not immediately jumping in the portal. I hope we can snag a spot in the Big 12 or we will headed straight down hill.
I feel really bad for OSU fans but they need to be going after their president. It was him along with the ASU president that protected Larry Scott for so long preventing him from getting fired.
This was predicted in a Sports Illustrated magazine that I read in high school about 4 Super conference but that article was about college basketball so I’m guessing college football is going to 4 Super conferences
I have a feeling notre dame isn’t joining a conference anytime soon. They’re a bit too comfortable with having a mediocre schedule and then losing by 30 everytime they get into the playoffs😂
There is going to be so many teams in the SEC and BigTen that teams outside of your division your might only be able to play once every 3 years or so. I think these super conferences in addition to having a conference championship game should seriously consider having conference semi final games also.
There were many games that meant more than just W's. Missouri v. Kansas rarely meant anything in overall terms but meant everything to the fans of those schools. What disappoints me is that those games could still be played, albeit with a little less meaning than "in conference", but they won't be played...and that is just sad and detracts from the game.
I get it's a money thing, but as an Oregon fan I'm deeply disappointed. Not just with UO and sometimes there game play lol, face it that's all the time. But with the dissolvement of the PAC. For me it's a geographical identity. Yeah we may not be in the same league as the SEC, but this was our league our coast our teams. The general used the right word in describing his thoughts, nostalgia. The only thing that comes with nostalgia are the memories. RIP PAC.
Just have an east and a west division. 32 teams in each. As well as a lesser division.16 team playoff. Bottom 8 get relegated. Top 8 of the already relegated teams move up. No conferences. Head to head, followed by points for an against for a tie breaker etc.
I lived in the old yellow apartment building almost in the middle of the parking lots between the hospital a the WVU football stadium game day was madness! Lol
Since this is the only place where my opinion might be read, but this stuff is disgusting. I am not a fan of what the big10 is doing and I know a lot of people feel the same way. It’s gross. Destroying the integrity of the game. It’s just not right
OUCH, I knew the length of the ACC contract was insane. But the fact the schools are getting paid SSSSOOOO LITTLE for the next thirteen years! Hell no. If a lawyer can't use the payout amounts to the other conferences to invalidate that contract that lawyer is an idiot.
Yeah the schools are looking at exit deals and losing MILLIONS to join SEC or B10. They MIGHT survive temporarily by adding a few AAC/CUSA teams…but it’s not the same product. TV deals 🙄🫤
Personally, I feel the product has been harmed by the old guard wanting to stick to the old ways. Big school playing weak schedules to build-up their win numbers. Those games are not entertaining and gives a false sense of strength until they play in play-off games and we end-up with fake strong teams losing to the same top teams. Sure those team's fans love it, b most of the country stops watching. Real structure coordinating more of a level field is what is needed. Level does not mean the same , just evenly matched teams play so every week actually means something. Rivalries and regional play is nice, but real competitive is where you pull in the viewers, and out of that we will get rivalries.
All this money flying around is ridiculous. Universities should divest all of their athletic departments and get back to what they are created to do. Educate people. The only reason for athletics was the educational component of it. People learn about hard work, leadership, and team work. They used to be students who played sports. It should go back to that. Create a professional minor league for the athletes that don’t want to pursue a degree. The kids that want the degree, go to college and can play in club teams at school.
Conference championships are gonna be just as dumb as the college football playoff is getting. You are literally already going to see ties in the Big10 of teams that never played each other. It's just going to be a mess, and it all comes down to money, and everyone wanting to make as much as they can, and the actual sport is becoming irrelevant.
With all these conferences having their own broadcasting channels and apps it’s about time to stop the deal where the NFL won’t play during college games. They wanna swim with the big fish then let them
What do you mean no one didn’t see this coming? College football tradition was ruined years ago. Greed period. Come on. Thank goodness for the NFL even playing field. It’s decided on the field.
I wish the Pac12 could keep every sport together with football being separate. Non-revenue sports having to travel from LA to New Jersey/Maryland/Penn in the middle of the week, mid semester, is rough for kids with no illusions of going pro.
1:39 If that is in the cards for B1G and if the AAU status is still a major factor within the conference, I believe that Nebraska will be the one on the chopping block.
What's happening in college football is why I believe eventually, there's only going to be 2 or 3 conferences in college football & that's b/c these somewhat lesser-known teams are realizing that to appeal to the committee & their bizarre & inconstant checklist for the playoff is to join conferences that the committee cares about. This is part of the reason why I'm a supporter of expanding the playoff & specifically in my opinion to 8 teams b/c then it would still be an exclusive group, there would be new & interesting matchups & it would be like every other NCAA playoff format.
@@YooperHatesOhioState While I get that not only is the committee never going to go for that but also if I'm honest 12 seems like a bit much. I say that b/c there are 25 ranked teams at any time during the season & half of 25 is 12 so we'd be letting in half of the ranked teams when below the rank of 10 they change weekly.
The easiest thing would be to have a pyramid league, with promotion and relegation based in sporting merit. If you suck you go down, if you keep winning, you go up. Also solves the issue of deciding seedings. Who ever wins the most games in the top league is the best. Surely it's not a difficult thing to comprehend
but with the conferences having that amount of teams, they would have to break with the ncaa and go kinda on a super league route. I really like your purpose, being from an association football (refuse to call soccer) and all, but there is one thing that makes the promotion and relegation really work: the fact that everybody plays everybody. When you don't play everyone, it does become something unfair to apply
@@otaviofrnazario I don't understand what you mean about it being unfair. If you broke your conferences down into a pyramid of 12 teams a conference, nationwide for first 3/4,then regionalise the next 3/4, any more leagues after that break down into regions aswell... Essentially like soccer over here. Every team would play each other once in the league(alternating home and away each time they play going forward). End of the season, if you still want your playoffs, have them. They do that in premiership Rugby over here. You'd even be able to have relegation playoffs, meaning more revenue, and more tailgating opportunities.
Do it similar the pro's. The whole she-bang is a league. Two college conferences (like the NFC/AFC) - and their divisions. College Super Bowl at the end.
College Football should institute a relegation system with three levels of 20 each. All teams should earn those big TV dollars. Have the top 20 teams play each other and drop the bottom 3 and promote the top 3 of the lower level.
It is only a matter of time before the top conferences abandon the NCAA and start their own professional league. That would end the concept of student athlete so those who don't go "pro" will be left with a 4-year hole in their resume, no college degree, potential life altering injury and nowhere to go.
At least 1 Big 12 rivalry will be bolstered by realignment: BYU-Utah. The "Holy War" always been a very heated rivalry, but has lost some of its edge in recent years with Utah being in the Pac-12 and BYU being independent. Now that they're in the same conference again, it should be one of the best rivalries in the conference.
@@michaeloptv Miami and G Tech don’t offer enough distribution opportunities for revenue for the SEC to offer them. The other schools have a much larger market share
Oregon State coming off a 10-3 season and a new stadium renovation. Hoping they can find a decent situation after all this chaos.
They should go to the big 12
I wish they OSU & WSU could go to the B12. I bet they do too. Pretty sure the B12 would love to have them if only to stay ahead on growth, and get a foothold in the NW. Problem is that every time they invite a new member, every current member breaks off a piece of their media earnings. Maybe Yormak will continue to be aggressive, and can renegotiate w/ linear parters/Fox & ESPN? Maybe add a streaming component? If the B12 can get even more $ and more broadcasting windows in exchange for more schools, it’s a no brainer. WSU had many more TV viewers than most of the B12 schools in 2022 while OSU was still competitive. The campuses & cultures are similar to key B12 programs too. Long shot, but 🤞
Big Sky is a good spot
This is stupid a money saver I guess. What's next paying high school players to not smoke dope and having only one conference for hundreds of colleges. I can see it now the Rose Bowl Big 12 against the Big 12 which is actually the Big 160 plus@@Fatta007
@@thelastlatchkeykid8466 Good points! I would be happy with them goin B12 now that PAC 12 is busted
As someone who watched Pat at WVU during the golden era of mountaineer football, it brings a tear to my eye to hear him still love us so fondly. Morgantown knows what’s UP on gameday
Let's goo Mountaineers!
Once a mountaineer always a mountaineer
In the last NCAA Football game you could change conferences, that game was ahead of its time.
I didn’t know that
And a 16-team playoff. Truly ahead of its time.
@@Chingon559ya that wasnt in the game
@@paperoute.x definitely wasn't lol
I always created my own conference
As an Oregon fan, it does make me sad as well that the civil war is not going to be a thing anymore after almost 100 years. Smh after oregon state went 10-3 and just had a whole bunch of stadium renovations, they did them dirty.
Hella
Plenty of teams play rivalry games outside of their conference. Look at Iowa/Iowa St, Louisville/Ky, Clemson/SC, Georgia/Georgia Tech, FSU/Florida. The rivalry can still happen
@@TheMedsYouNeedyou’re right. But we’re lamenting the tradition. The timing, the weather, all of it. The Civil War, or whatever they call it now (even though nobody does) was a must watch game for me every year. And I have no ties to UO, OSU, nor the state of Oregon.
Oregon ain’t looking out for Oregon State. Be better
That’s done, so is Bedlam. My Cowboys never get to upset the big bad Sooners again
In my opinion there was never a need for super conferences. The old Fashioned Pac 12 , Big 10 (not Big 16), SEC, etc were good enough. The rivalry weeks are disappearing and the bowl season luster. This is a shame because its a great thing to have an actual college football playoff now instead of the BCS or voting for a champ.
At this point, the Power conferences should be assigned lower-tier FBS conferences and do promotion/relegation 😂
You’re not wrong.
Would love this
That’s a great idea actually
Might come down to that 10 15 years from now
America wouldn’t let this happen, especially not in college football. Regardless of how bad a team may be one year, dropping from the SEC to the ACC wouldn’t make sense
Honestly this whole ordeal has really put a damper on colleges as a whole. If youre not specifically a football player, you do not mattwr to the school at all. And if you are a football player, you only matter because some 60 year old business guy cant catch a ball. Absolutely disgusted at my alma mater ASU for continually putting money first and then shitting on everything that actually matters.
You think if there wasn't football they'd start caring about students?
Now it sucks???? Last time I checked what you described is college football itself
That's all true. Eventually the minor sports will be relegated to club status. Schools won't want to bother paying for them nor flying them.. feeding them..and hoteling them all over the country.
It seems odd that no one described it as a damper when the SEC stole Texas and OU from the Big 12.
Football pays the bills...like it or not these TV deals arnt being made for the other sports for the most part, having a successful football team means you can spend money in other programs
I bet a lot of those PAC programs still hold a grudge for the conference basically cancelling the 2020 season while everyone else played.
Yeah, but they all survived, whereas every team that played had 100% of players, coaches, staff die of COVID or long COVID.
@@chadchadchadchadchadThat's the biggest bs I've read all day lol
VT-WVU used to be a big rivalry game when they were in the same conference. As a Hokie, I cared more about that game than the UVA game.
My chances of seeing Iowa win a National Title was already at 0% Now I think we’ve reached a negative percentage😅😭
Remember when they balled out that one year
To alotta ppl its like, whats the point now??? That version of the sport no longer exists now. 😢 shame
It isn't looking much better for Washington. 😂
Its rough bro, I'm on the west coast, so it will be cool catching the hawks out here now, but they will have to realign the divisions you just can't take all the Pac 12 schools coming and throw them in the west. That will be a gimmick.
@@edwarddailey21big 10 is dissolving conferences from what I hear, I'm interested in how the games will plan out...as a long time Michigan fan im upset Ohio State won't be the last regular season game anymore
8:27 to 8:52, idk why but this little exchange sent me. Pats "realization" that these decisions are being made for the money made me die laughing
lmao hes throwing a shot at college presidents
@@pkasper10 no doubt lol straight troll job and it's hilarious to watch
@@rentzrundown "for the students, right?" lmao
@@pkasper10 "OHHHHhhhh the Money!!!"
As a fellow Mountaineer, can confirm it was like that every home game from '11-'14 when i was there. Gameday came that year, we got smoked by LSU.
That was good crowd and man did LSU travel. Couldn’t believe how many of them travelled up from Baton Rouge lol
Honey Badger was gonna win the heisman after that game
I was in Boise a week ago. I went by Albertsons Stadium and thought “Boise State will never be the same. They were good 10-20 years ago. “
I'm an Georgia fan, but I think the dissolution of the Pac-12 is gonna be part of the downfall of the NCAA.
I wish it happened like the Big East collpase
Go Dawgs
Good riddance. Time they were put to bed at this point anyways
@@ianadams5131 why? So much history with the PAC 12
nah i think it helps
that is sad how bad College Football has fallen. The Pac 12 has a lot of good rivalries it's so sad games like Oregon- Oregon State, and Washington State- Washington probably won't be played after this year
This is criminal. Not being able to kick back at 7pm on a Saturday and throw on Washington St vs Arizona makes me furious
West coast schools are most likely still gonna play in that 7pm time slot when at home
B1G has the latest time slot at 8pmEt.
@aindrexa5078 actually it's wac and then pac12
@aindrexa5078 No they don't 😂 Pac, MWC, as far a Hawaii goes, most time they're the last game on air if at home.
who are those teams though
The fact that the NCAA is tax-exempt at this point is stupid
Do you guys have any other response other than TAX EVERYONE?
@diskonnekt1313 you guys? Ucla usc Oregon and uw are the exact people crying about "paying their fair share" they destroyed a 100+ year old conference to chase a bag. I'm generally pretty libertarian, but yeah. In this case all these boujee colleges should pay taxes on their billion dollar business.
its so stupid, you won't even be able to play the teams "in your conference" anymore
I agree with the Missouri head coach. The schools have lost sight of the student athletes and have focused exclusively on the money. Conference realignment for other sports is a net negative. More travel, longer hours, less sleep, poor health, poor performance inside classroom and out.
Call me naive all you want, but what is the purpose of going to college? To get a degree so that the 99% of football players who don't go to the NFL can have a career to fall back on. What do you suppose the percentages are for basketball & baseball?
Not naive. Absolutely correct.
This perspective is the definition of ingenious. Every sports media outlet is covering this topic similarly, but yet none of them were willing to risk their own money for a PAC-12 television deal. It’s nothing more than to cover their own asses. To act like student athletes are at a disadvantage is a complete joke. These are students that get early registration, extra extension on school work, free tutoring etc. While in the meantime there’s other students that are working at bars until 2 a.m to pay for their own education that get no benefits. Tough luck that’s the reality of the world. At the end of the day student athletes will eventually benefit from the revenue that’s drawn in from these super conferences through NIL deals. The number one cause of negative mental health is being stagnant, never heard someone that’s busting their ass, complain about being sad.
@@BlueMax717 Exactly. That’s just some of the players. The vast majority of student athletes make something of their education, and their life after college sports. I see them all over the workforce. They’re usually called mgr., boss, CE something, or VP. Remember also that most of them play sports that we don’t watch on Saturdays in the fall.
@@BlueMax717exactly I have a degree and I don’t even use it lol
I have a completely different career
It’s the worst thing ever!! Football isn’t everything, these are students
A few are students
Those rivalries don't need to be dead, Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year dispite not being in the same conference and GT not being relavant since the 50s outside of 3 freak seasons.
yes, and they have been non conference games since 1964. When there is a will, there is a way
As a WSU fan. Knowing that our current QB is a absolute BALLER in Cameron Ward. And being the only fan in a family of Huskies fans. This is potentially DEVASTATING 💔
How could there be no Apple Cup? No rivalry between the 2? This might be the most heartbreaking thing. It's truly sad watching the PAC-12 fall apart smh. Our QB is a STUD go watch his highlights from last year. It's insanely athletic...
I’ve loved the dude when he played at UIW
Yeah the Apple cup is the only game that matters here in WA. Stupid af
Wonder if they could just schedule it for out of conference games?
@@BamaShanksOregon and UW said they will do their best to continue the rivalries
@@WiddlPeppuwu-sx3rxit's probably going to be like Utah and BYU rivalry was while Utah was in the PAC and BYU was independent. Early in the year when neither is at their peak, on and off from year to year. I'm glad the holy war is back to being a yearly thing. But sad other rivalries are going on the back burner.
Getting so tired of having to pay for streaming at this point. I pay more for streaming than my cable at this point. How much do they think people are going to continue to stream everything at this point?
College Football has already changed completely for us in the UK. We can't watch it on tv anymore and ESPN player has closed down for us. 😡😡
vpn?
@@chudmuffin0 True and while more hardcore fans like me will do that, i'm just concerned about the lack of growth of the sport in this country. The NFL are pushing for a UK franchise and see this as its 2nd biggest market, yet our broadcasters have zero interest in broadcasting college football, yet pretty much the rest of Europe gets access to it. Just pisses me off!
@adamweishaupt2846 "Our broadcasters have zero interest in broadcasting college football"....what are you talking about? If broadcasters had no interest, then why are they paying big time money for broadcasts rights to conferences? You just saw the numbers on that graphic they showed. Any given Saturday, you can have 10 channels showing 10 different college football games at the same time. There is big time interest in college football.
@@rdramos13Buddy, he’s talking about watching college football in the UK
@@rdramos13BBC my man…TV there isn’t like it is here. The government controls it.
Forget football, think of the other sports that don't get the same funding. Oregon traveling to Rutgers for golf? Or USC to Maryland for baseball? Or BYU to UCF for track and field? It's absurd!
Just remove football from the NCAA equation and the travel costs are outrageous
I wish at least 10% of all NIL money goes to a team pool to support all members, not just the Allstars.
I agree, better yet they should just give them contracts. I do know though that a few schools have sponsors that donate to everyone on the team, even if they aren't on scholarship
All of this started with the introduction of the CFP. There’s no going back now
I straight up HATE this stuff. Oregon State had a 10 win season, including nearly beating USC at the buzzer, and yet...they're out in the cold.
It's not just about football
There are other sports.
@@sarahwolfe1154kinda like their incredible baseball program?
@@sarahwolfe1154 These recent changes is mostly about football but affects the other sports
@sandzjapan Beavs just aren't a big brand. Washington and Oregon put out good volleyball and softball teams which are the two fastest rising sports among the US youth.
@@sarahwolfe1154Huh? I guess you don't know anything about OSU baseball!
It’s amazing all the major conferences are doing what the American Athletic Conference tried to get going years ago. A nationwide super conference.
WSU has been in the top 20 on the regular for the last 25 years. Now they’re in what’s left of the PAC 10 or 12 or whatever, and it’s dumb. The PAC10 used have the Rose Bowl, and every team in the nation wanted a piece of that game.
Give it another 15 years and the college game will be bigger than the NFL, same as when football was getting started back in the 1920-1950s.
Boston Conner with the Benny Hill salute.
I remember back when Oklahoma vs Nebraska had National Championship buzz.
man, next time around they have to play Yakety Sax on top of it
Thank you, Pat and the gang! Live from Morgantown
NCAA Football was once worth watching. Now, not so much. Schools and conferences only care about revenue. They couldn't care less about the players and fans.
“Iowa vs Nebraska, still got it” 😂
Civil War is gonna be sad ESPECIALLY when the schools are LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AWAY from each other. R.I.P Civil War 😢
College football is no longer student athletes. It is now a professional league as players can go to a portal where other teams can pick them up with no consequence to player or teams. Also there is even more money involved than ever before.
Minor league football I guess lol. It’s not the nfl
Because the west coast, and especially california. They dont care at all about college football. You see no billboards or even hear anything college on the radio out here. Its all about the pro teams
Then, things have changed drastically in the last 10-15 years. That was the reason why LA didn't have any NFL teams. They only cared about the college teams.
College football as we knew it has ALREADY BEEN RUINED FOREVER!
The PORTAL and NIL are the MAJOR DOWNFALLS!
As an Oregon State alum, they did us dirty. Finally getting forward momentum with a great coach and players not immediately jumping in the portal. I hope we can snag a spot in the Big 12 or we will headed straight down hill.
Dude, everybody is screwed. Oregon and Washington are going to taste the sweet flavor of mediocrity in the Big 10.
I feel really bad for OSU fans but they need to be going after their president. It was him along with the ASU president that protected Larry Scott for so long preventing him from getting fired.
This was predicted in a Sports Illustrated magazine that I read in high school about 4 Super conference but that article was about college basketball so I’m guessing college football is going to 4 Super conferences
I miss the bcs era so much. So much more fun to watch
BCS with a 6 team playoff would be ideal.
@@d_boneswish1296 agreed. Use the computer models but have a playoff
The real question is if any conference will be able to stack up against the SEC
It’s not college football, it’s semi pro now! Good work everyone we killed college football
I have a feeling notre dame isn’t joining a conference anytime soon. They’re a bit too comfortable with having a mediocre schedule and then losing by 30 everytime they get into the playoffs😂
There is going to be so many teams in the SEC and BigTen that teams outside of your division your might only be able to play once every 3 years or so. I think these super conferences in addition to having a conference championship game should seriously consider having conference semi final games also.
So, there are 35+ bowls games....At this point, you would be playing a conference opponent In a bowl game.
It is becoming a monopoly for the very select few. Disappointing really.
There were many games that meant more than just W's. Missouri v. Kansas rarely meant anything in overall terms but meant everything to the fans of those schools. What disappoints me is that those games could still be played, albeit with a little less meaning than "in conference", but they won't be played...and that is just sad and detracts from the game.
Flying football teams all over the country is obviously great for the environment😂. Colleges would never be that hypocritical.😂😂
All they see is $$$$ imagine USC volleyball flying to Maryland for a Wednesday match then flying back...DUMB
University of Spoiled Children!
@@prollins6443 😂 I was told that forever ago by someone from LA
I get it's a money thing, but as an Oregon fan I'm deeply disappointed. Not just with UO and sometimes there game play lol, face it that's all the time. But with the dissolvement of the PAC. For me it's a geographical identity. Yeah we may not be in the same league as the SEC, but this was our league our coast our teams. The general used the right word in describing his thoughts, nostalgia. The only thing that comes with nostalgia are the memories. RIP PAC.
Dissolution not dissolvement but I fully agree with your comments.
Just have an east and a west division. 32 teams in each. As well as a lesser division.16 team playoff. Bottom 8 get relegated. Top 8 of the already relegated teams move up.
No conferences.
Head to head, followed by points for an against for a tie breaker etc.
Pat McAfee shouting out Little 5 made me smile like no other. Greatest weekend to be a hoosier
big 10? more like big 20 with how many teams they're letting in lmao
I lived in the old yellow apartment building almost in the middle of the parking lots between the hospital a the WVU football stadium game day was madness! Lol
Screw the big ten they’re destroying college football and they’re still not even close to as good as the SEC
Pac 12 destroyed themselves, BIG saved Oregon and Wash!
Since this is the only place where my opinion might be read, but this stuff is disgusting. I am not a fan of what the big10 is doing and I know a lot of people feel the same way. It’s gross. Destroying the integrity of the game. It’s just not right
OUCH, I knew the length of the ACC contract was insane. But the fact the schools are getting paid SSSSOOOO LITTLE for the next thirteen years! Hell no. If a lawyer can't use the payout amounts to the other conferences to invalidate that contract that lawyer is an idiot.
Yeah the schools are looking at exit deals and losing MILLIONS to join SEC or B10. They MIGHT survive temporarily by adding a few AAC/CUSA teams…but it’s not the same product.
TV deals 🙄🫤
Personally, I feel the product has been harmed by the old guard wanting to stick to the old ways. Big school playing weak schedules to build-up their win numbers. Those games are not entertaining and gives a false sense of strength until they play in play-off games and we end-up with fake strong teams losing to the same top teams. Sure those team's fans love it, b most of the country stops watching. Real structure coordinating more of a level field is what is needed. Level does not mean the same , just evenly matched teams play so every week actually means something. Rivalries and regional play is nice, but real competitive is where you pull in the viewers, and out of that we will get rivalries.
I can't wait to see this minor-league football this season. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Love It Pat The Pat McAfee Show Bro.
All this money flying around is ridiculous. Universities should divest all of their athletic departments and get back to what they are created to do. Educate people. The only reason for athletics was the educational component of it. People learn about hard work, leadership, and team work. They used to be students who played sports. It should go back to that. Create a professional minor league for the athletes that don’t want to pursue a degree. The kids that want the degree, go to college and can play in club teams at school.
PAC12 network was a disaster. I think only one or two TV providers carried it.
Conference championships are gonna be just as dumb as the college football playoff is getting. You are literally already going to see ties in the Big10 of teams that never played each other. It's just going to be a mess, and it all comes down to money, and everyone wanting to make as much as they can, and the actual sport is becoming irrelevant.
With all these conferences having their own broadcasting channels and apps it’s about time to stop the deal where the NFL won’t play during college games. They wanna swim with the big fish then let them
You should have softy maller from Seattle radio to talk about the pac 12 he’s a character
MOUNTAINEERS BABY! WE RUN THIS CONFERENCE!
What do you mean no one didn’t see this coming? College football tradition was ruined years ago. Greed period. Come on. Thank goodness for the NFL even playing field. It’s decided on the field.
My 3 favorite football guys in one place. Love it
At this point, they need to separate college football from scholarly components of college. It’s simply about making money, that’s it.
"Now there's a chance we lose those games"
"ALLLLL OF THEM!"
I wish the Pac12 could keep every sport together with football being separate. Non-revenue sports having to travel from LA to New Jersey/Maryland/Penn in the middle of the week, mid semester, is rough for kids with no illusions of going pro.
Aint no way that’s the end of the Apple cup
Can’t comprehend how the B1G TV contract is worth more than the SEC’s
It’s all funny money everybody knows the sec is better heck the Acc is the only league that ever fields teams that can beat us
In 5 years there may be zero conferences and a shitload of club teams. This circus needs a tent and the NFL should just set up a D-league.
1:39 If that is in the cards for B1G and if the AAU status is still a major factor within the conference, I believe that Nebraska will be the one on the chopping block.
What's happening in college football is why I believe eventually, there's only going to be 2 or 3 conferences in college football & that's b/c these somewhat lesser-known teams are realizing that to appeal to the committee & their bizarre & inconstant checklist for the playoff is to join conferences that the committee cares about. This is part of the reason why I'm a supporter of expanding the playoff & specifically in my opinion to 8 teams b/c then it would still be an exclusive group, there would be new & interesting matchups & it would be like every other NCAA playoff format.
Wish it was 12
agreed with his take and agree with yours as well. 12 teams would be a war@@YooperHatesOhioState
@@YooperHatesOhioState While I get that not only is the committee never going to go for that but also if I'm honest 12 seems like a bit much. I say that b/c there are 25 ranked teams at any time during the season & half of 25 is 12 so we'd be letting in half of the ranked teams when below the rank of 10 they change weekly.
There now are 3
@@YooperHatesOhioStateit is 12 team playoff after this year
I'm confused on how Cal and Stanford might join the Atlantic Coast Conference....guess the Conference name an location is obsolete
We'll trade Maryland, Rutgers, Northwestern, and Purdue for Clemson and FSU straight up!
Agreed
Northwestern & Purdue are never leaving 😂
Much rather have ND & Clemson and boot Rutgers
The easiest thing would be to have a pyramid league, with promotion and relegation based in sporting merit. If you suck you go down, if you keep winning, you go up.
Also solves the issue of deciding seedings. Who ever wins the most games in the top league is the best. Surely it's not a difficult thing to comprehend
but with the conferences having that amount of teams, they would have to break with the ncaa and go kinda on a super league route.
I really like your purpose, being from an association football (refuse to call soccer) and all, but there is one thing that makes the promotion and relegation really work: the fact that everybody plays everybody.
When you don't play everyone, it does become something unfair to apply
@@otaviofrnazario I don't understand what you mean about it being unfair.
If you broke your conferences down into a pyramid of 12 teams a conference, nationwide for first 3/4,then regionalise the next 3/4, any more leagues after that break down into regions aswell... Essentially like soccer over here.
Every team would play each other once in the league(alternating home and away each time they play going forward). End of the season, if you still want your playoffs, have them. They do that in premiership Rugby over here.
You'd even be able to have relegation playoffs, meaning more revenue, and more tailgating opportunities.
Wish theyd talk about college football more. Instead of NFL.
Haven't watched since the end of last season... dang, Tone Diggs is looking really good. Inspirational.
Can't wait for General Bob to save college football again 🫡
Stanford and Cal, two great brands of college football only to be in a part of California that doesn’t care about college football.
LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!!
Do it similar the pro's. The whole she-bang is a league. Two college conferences (like the NFC/AFC) - and their divisions. College Super Bowl at the end.
"Fan of Nostalgia" -Bob Carpenter LOL!
I kinda like it tbh if this means less cupcake games to start the year
Missouri vs Kansas or Illinois? One of the best college rivalries for both football and basketball!
The Pitt - Penn State is one that has been missed .
College Football should institute a relegation system with three levels of 20 each. All teams should earn those big TV dollars. Have the top 20 teams play each other and drop the bottom 3 and promote the top 3 of the lower level.
I don't understand why the rivalry games, like Oregon vs Oregon St., was lost. Are there no non-conference games anymore?
I read the title and thought wow maybe I’ll be able to watch it finally
It is only a matter of time before the top conferences abandon the NCAA and start their own professional league. That would end the concept of student athlete so those who don't go "pro" will be left with a 4-year hole in their resume, no college degree, potential life altering injury and nowhere to go.
Its almost like college football sucks... who woulda thought.
Better than nfl
@@YooperHatesOhioState what ever you say bud 😂
@@YooperHatesOhioStateyeah i love when receivers catch the ball on the gound and they are down without being touched. it's so good. stop.
@@adamwolsey8589 lol NFL players do the same thing bud. Do better
@@YooperHatesOhioStatelol I remember the first time I watched football too
At least 1 Big 12 rivalry will be bolstered by realignment: BYU-Utah. The "Holy War" always been a very heated rivalry, but has lost some of its edge in recent years with Utah being in the Pac-12 and BYU being independent. Now that they're in the same conference again, it should be one of the best rivalries in the conference.
Hey pat how is your Bud light doing!
I despise how money destroys legacy rivalries and great competition. It’s greed. Bravo to the winners but they are essentially sell aughts.
Collage footabll has sucked for over a decade.
They don’t want to deal with the money issue
?
What college ball have you watched? 😅😂
says no one..
Pac-4 is CRAZY lol
I would imagine the next big moves would be two teams to the SEC. Probably between North Carolina, FSU, Virginia, or Clemson
FSU, Miami, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.
@@michaeloptv Miami and G Tech don’t offer enough distribution opportunities for revenue for the SEC to offer them. The other schools have a much larger market share