We love our Woodland Mills 126. To be able to cut what you need and in your wood of choice is simply priceless. I use Cherry and Hemlock more than anything and they look amazing for stairs etc. We are lucky here in NE TN to have an amazing choice of hard and soft woods. I call our milling a big money saving hobby. Keep in mind too that a good used mill will sell for more than you paid if you no longer need it given the 6 mos to a year lead time and the price of a new mill just keeps going up 👍😎👌 Now I have to add we do have a Cat excavator and Swinger loader so even at 75 handling one ton logs is easy and even fun work. Most of our equipment all work to complement each other on our little homestead. Btw we heat with wood only so nothing goes to waste.
nice, we visited my wife uncle over the summer and he had a mill, it was quite fun to use it. He is milling all of the wood to build his house. he called the other day and said the wood we milled over that week he is now using as the walls (inside) for the master bedroom and bathroom. it was quite fun and nice to see hard work going into something so useful. enjoyed the mill.
I have had my LT15Go for about 10 months, I love it! We milled the lumber for a small barn for our goats and are about done with a firewood shed. I also really like having my own lumberyard! We plan on a few more outbuildings, and you are right, my mill will pay for itself in just my buildings. But as you say, with a manual mill, you are going to work, but I really don't mind, and I love opening a log and seeing what God has created.
I really enjoy my Woodmizer, It is paying for itself. I milled for a guy the other day who is going to build his retirement home with the lumber.That gives a certain amount of satisfaction to know I am helping someone reach their goals also. Ron
Your project is a good reminder and lesson to everyone how owning your own mill saves a lot of money over time and pays for itself pretty quick. Looks like your going to have a nice front porch when your done.
Excellent vid my friend. I'm in the same boat as you... but I'm building my own since I have a ton of logs from the local forest fire that ripped thru here. I currently used a chainsaw mill but the amount of sawdust and loss of wood is forcing me to go the bandsaw route. Liked the close up video too, gave me some details of the mill frame I was lacking. I'm milling some true dimension 2 x 6 red cedar for my back deck and so far it's incredible stuff. Your info and detailed info about cost, cutting and salvaging the ugly looking logs was very helpful. Keep it up.
Looks like the mill is doing great! Had an old friend give me some good advice one time so I’ll pass it along, he said when it’s hard to tell exactly where you are on your measuring scale just look at the dial it has marks like a tape measure so you will atleast be able to tell if you are on a 1/2 1/4 1/8 or 1/16 mark. I’m sure you already knew that but I didn’t at the time and it was a huge time saver so thought I’d tell you it really helped me cut more accurately also
It's doing well. I'm really enjoying it. Appreciate that tip! I usually just try to keep track of which notch I start on so I can use that notch as a point of reference. I have noticed those different length marks, however. Always appreciate you stopping by.
I have enjoyed watching your videos. If I were a few years younger I would definitely be looking at getting a sawmill like what you have. Thanks for the videos and keep them coming. I also appreciate the videos about the bees and the honey production. May the Lord continue to bless you and your family. Be safe and enjoy the bounty of God's creation.
Finally a full length video on cutting wood I am getting sick of all these 5-8 minute videos of cutting one log 3 days worth of watching someone cut the same log gets old in a hurry. Great job on the video and taking the time to do a complete video. thank you
@@falllineridge Doing good shoulder is working good again will get the other one done this winter I hope. I have to repair the sawmill I went to move it to weld on it and forgot to fasten the saw head down and it it took off like an Olympic sprinter and did a flip off the sawmill track and bent a few things and broke the water jug, all in all not bad at all for a 1000 lbs flying threw the air LOL
They look every bit as good as any lumber you would get at any big box store, so you did an excellent job salvaging that which would have otherwise been firewood.
When sawing its always a surprise when you open up a log. I have seen some of the best looking logs be total junk and the ugliest yeild some of the nicest boards. Your sawing skills are spot on now very well done and you couldn't be more right. Having a mill will not just save you a small fortune. But it can be a huge source of income as they are always someone wanting logs sawed. Then they are no shortage of those who need custom lumber.
My second time leaving a comment.... I have much respect for you .. you are definitely a hard worker....and like you said makes more sense to have your own meal if you have trees and you can also make money with it.............JJ...
Good job with explaining the sawmill experience and listing ALL vendors. I have the Frontier OS-27 manual mill and you are spot on about sweating with a manual mill, as a hobbyist and woodworker this suits me just fine.
@@falllineridge For $4500 I got the extended track and a box of blades and a whole lot of fun. I can cut up to 27 inch by 17ft which I wanted for framing material for outdoor pole barn and lean to. I find it to be a good little machine for my needs. It has by far paid for itself in saving lumber cost. I would love to upgrade but right now things are going good. Thanks
Thank you for the great video. I live in the city and I am considering buying or renting one of these for all the lumber projects I have got coming up. Thank you for taking the time to explain and show the process.
Good video amigo, I have had two wood mizers. One was an early LT30, had it for several years, the next was a brand new LT40HD, and it is still running and cutting wood after 15 years. I made a living from it at Pacific Coast Lumber. A couple video's on my site, more coming. Great job.
I just had an idea. I wonder if you could add like I think it's called unirail. It's a metal channel with holes used to hang things from ceilings in commercial/industrial buildings. But you could put a few lengths here and there alond the bunks but low enough not to interfere with the operation. Then you have a good spot to stick your pivy or a pry bar to persuade a log or in this video boards against the stops.
Always great to see another Sawyer on TH-cam. Not enough of us doing good quality videos. Seems you use your green lumber directly from the mill? I know you mentioned a "dried log". Be great to see your moisture content in your "green" lumber and also see longer term how your decking boards are doing. Are they warping, cracking, etc? We mill mainly salvaged urban trees and sell exclusively kiln dried lumber right now. For the purpose of interior furniture so moisture is a big deal for our lumber application. Keep it up! Love your use of these logs which most would let go to waste.
I have used it green for my solar kiln, and there was some shrinkage. But it held up fine. For interior use I dry it down to 7% or so in the kiln...or let it acclimate after air drying. Some of these green logs can have 30+ percent moisture fresh!
I have about 20 acres with plenty of dead ash and just as many beech that need removed, and I am using my LT35 to saw lumber from them. I just finished a trim package for my Farm market stand, it would have cost at least $500 at another local sawmill for hardwood trim, and I probably spent about $50 on a saw blade and gas to cut it myself. It is very satisfying to be able to cut the tree down, skid it out, and saw it up yourself. I have plans of putting up a few more buildings and cutting the lumber package myself. I dont have any hard figures yet but I figure that I could lumber for more than five buildings for the same cost as the lumber for just one
I was watching this video. Just a comment and some inside. Here in Saskatchewan if I were to purchase the lumber that you have listed I would have paid a lot more. We have mills here close to where I live but the lumber is import from British Columbia, which I don’t understand. I can see the need to have your own mill. Love your videos please keep them coming.
Oh say it ain't so.. Sweat equity. lol Wes, you do the best on youtube with your videos. I thoroughly enjoy them. By the way, another inspiration from you. I am going to break out my first beehive this coming spring.
Recently bought 40 acres here in northern Ontario and been thinking of getting one. Big investment but I think it will pay for itself once I start building a cabin. Lumber is not cheap! A bit over 10 bucks for a 2x4x8 now after taxes, it's crazy.
I liked the video. I've been looking at that same lt15 go for a few years. Just haven't bought it yet. I'm interested in your decision to keep the base engine and add power feed instead of adding the 25 up engine. Do you ever wish you had gotten a different engine? I am also interested in the manual toe board. I worked at an old sawmill growing up. From turning logs to running the edger and offbearing. So I do know what work is involved running a mill.
Thanks for watching, Jimmy. I decided to not upgrade the engine because I was used to running my LT10 with a 10hp engine, so I figured that nearly doubling my horsepower would be sufficient. That decision has worked out well for me. However, most of the logs I saw are on the small to medium side. Rarely do I get anything over 18". If I were sawing 20" plus on a regular basis, the 25hp engine would probably have been worth it. If I ever wear this engine out I'd like to replace it with the 17hp diesel option. The power feed is worth its weight in gold. I don't think Woodmizer offers a manual toe board with this mill. There's a Sawyer on TH-cam, Josaljo Won, who made his own. You might check him out (but I suspect you're already familiar with him.)
@@falllineridge Most of my timber is small to medium. The timber I'm willing to cut. I've watched a few of his videos. I haven't seen the one about the manual toe board. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the reply.
It depends on whether the tree is dead or alive when you fell it. I believe you are supposed to let a live or green tree set for a year before you mill it and then sticker it for 6 months. I have heard that after milling some trees like black walnut they need to sit stacked and stickered for 7 years before they are really ready to use. Don't quote me on that one, just something I have heard. The biggest reason you want wood to dry is for shrinkage, you don't want to build something and then have big gaps a year later. Some species of wood shrink more than others and some take longer to dry than others. Kinda need to know what wood you are working with. :)
Yes, we will be treating the porch. Untreated pine is not very rot resistant. Even still, buying the water sealer is a small expense in comparison to the hundreds that we've saved on the porch so far.
I as a former owner used the wood in trade for beef, eggs, vegetables, labor for me in turn, and I encouraged people go local and keep the money here in our town, not some foreign bank. Once money leaves it never comes back. Go to the large stores and only have one check out going/checker and wait in line for a heap of time to get home and find out parts or all of it needs to go back and get the right stuff again and hope they can read the slip that the ink comes off of it in your shirt pocket. Err, I hate that. Most people who own a home are willing to swap good stuff that something what they have will help you and the rent/taxes are still in your pocket.
I like when you push over a stack of finished boards or posts after the final cut. Very dramatic and really emphasizes what you have just accomplished.
Were the boards or logs before they were cut into boards air dried for a period of time or do they do alright nailing them down with a fairly high moisture content?
I don't know much about lumber, even less about milling, but aren't those first boards bowed like crazy? Is anything done to straighten them? Pressure? Something else?
Yes, that was a result of improper stacking during the drying process. They worked fine though because we screwed them to the porch. That got the bow out.
I'd sure like to have a woodmizer sawmill, I've got about 2 acres of Poplar I'd like to cut. Been wanting to build a cabin and I've got 3 acres altogether. I like that L15go.What's the price on one of those? Great video!
These particular boards you cut a straight edge on, had the been cut awhile and you going back to true the edge up? I got a stack of Loblolly thats dry with a curved edge as they were in the drying process. I need to resaw the edges.
Amen brother, if you think about it when you first open it up you are the first to see Gods handy work from years ago!! Nobody else has seen it but you and God! It's awesome!! Good video!
Great video. I subscribe to another sawyer's channel too. Its called Out of The Woods. I have no clue why I love to watch sawmills work. It's not like I'm going buy one myself.
I walked into WoodCraft today. I was curious how much they would charge for walnut. For a 1x4x36" 35.00 (milled). I was shocked. I have sawn several hundred BF of walnut, its just sitting in by back yard.
Damm.., if I owned some timber I would buy one of these machines.., just because..., "He who dies with the most toy's wins". Nice vid. Is the timber Oregan Pine.., worth a royal arm and leg here in Australia.
Well, I'm sold. I will buy a mill tomorrow! ;-P But seriously, not only do you save money on lumber, I find myself building things I wouldn't normally if I didn't have a mill. It gives you access to materials you wouldn't normally think to spend money on. There are few reasons to not have a mill:-)
Enjoy your videos very much. I mainly cut and split firewood so seeing others use a saw mill like this is very refreshing and gets my wheels turning. Had a question. I see that when you stack a group of boards with the live edge showing - you only cut a few inches then flip and repeat. But then have to flip back to that same side and cut again. Why wouldn't you just make 1 pass of 4-5 inches instead of making multiple smaller cuts of only 2 inches or so? I would think it would save you time and energy to just cut the amount necessary once per side instead of multiple smaller cuts. Thanks for the videos and I look forward to many more to come.
That was just a mistake. I usually do exactly what you are talking about...take enough off so I don't have to repeat...but that time I didn't. Glad you're enjoying the channel!
Hey brother, nice video. As somebody else mentioned, the camera angles are cool. Do you usually build your projects right after milling, or do you dry the lumber? I know certain stuff can be built with green lumber (allowing for movement) but have you noticed anything on your other projects regarding wood shrinking or moving in some way? I’m researching all of this, including kilns. I live in western Arizona, but have 26 acres of big, old maples and oak in western New York and now my problem is logistics due to all the bugs in the wood. A lot, if not all, counties in NY have quarantines on wood. I plan on getting into milling for my own projects, slabs, and firewood. That’s why I’m seriously thinking about setting up kiln first. Keep up the good work and God bless brother
I build my solar kiln out of green wood, and it did well. There was some shrinking, but overall it did really well. Of course, you are better off letting it dry for a while. That keeps the fasteners strong due to no pulling away of the material. When using the wood for interior use, it helps to dry it in a kiln to 7% or so. That eliminates that annoying little bit of shrinking that happens when the humidity really dips during the winter months. At least that's how it works in our climate. Appreciate you watching!
Do you still have the LT10? I’m on looking at LT10 & LT15. Just not sure which is more practical for my use yet. I only have 6 acres of pretty heavily forested land. I’m in the Sierra Mountains in CA. I have many other resources for fell trees as well.
Since you bought that 15 , I've noticed you've gotten creative with the camera. I love the new angles. 8:37, Ya finally got smart using the cant hook, or is it a peavy? Porch floor looks terrific. 10X30? That'swhole lot more than decent sized, taht's awesome. I noticed the Taylor County Fire tee. As a retired FF from up in MA., is it a full time or volunteer dept? Strong mind too.
Jim Willoughby Was a volunteer FF for a little while, no longer though. Makes a good work shirt now. It’s a cant hook. Appreciate the porch and camera compliments! Looking forward to enjoying the porch this fall.
You gone put any kind of sealer on the porch deck ? i been building a porch from pine sawn on a Woodmizer. Treated 6x6x16 for Load bearing post. They were 67.00 each at Handy Andy.
I'm thinking that would be one heck of a way to "split" firewood, especially the knarly pieces that are difficult to split. (My log splitter is on the fritz.)
When you use lumber after milling, do you need to dry it before building with it? I am thinking of using my milled trees for a new shop but am afraid that it will start twisting and turning if I don't dry it first.
You can build with green lumber, but you're better off stacking and stickering it and letting it dry for a while. Green lumber shrinks and that compromises the strength of the fasteners. Plus there will be some warping. It doesn't have to be bone dry, just let it get the shrinking and twisting out of its system. 14% moisture is a good goal.
Gettin' creative with the GoPro placement I see...BTW, when you harvested that red cedar log from the church-yard, you had a hand-crank winch. I see now it's electrified. Was that a custom job or did you buy some type of add-on kit for your Woodmizer?
I love the video, and I DO need a sawmill--I'm just too poor right now. Lol!! Btw, a small tip from a public speaker: you might want to keep your religious views to yourself if you want to appeal to more people. Religious comments tend to alienate many, and they can distract viewers from your main message. But it's a free web so it's up to you. Anyway, cheers!
Appreciate you watching! I know the feeling of being too poor for a mill. That's why I make payments. Thanks for the tip also, always appreciate input.
@@282dday Yes, talking about god or gods IS offensive to anyone who follows reason (the majority of Americans). Also, I never sad he couldn't do it. I suggested he not. He didn't seem to mind. Why do you?
@@282dday And it's amazing that you still live your life by a Bronze Age book. Most of us prefer to live in a world that doesn't promote genocide, slavery, women as property, child murder--yeah a real miracle. And somehow you can ignore those passages and keep fooling yourself.
Would love to know how much a load of logs are and how many board feet per load? Then add the cost of mill and cost to run it and see if it is cheaper than homedepot.
Probably won't be cheaper to start with, but the quality will far surpass any Home Depot I've been in. I live up in the Northwest , eastern Washington to be more accurate, trees all around, you'd think Home Depot could find some good lumber, nope, doesn't seem to happen. Local lumber yards are the solution.
@@murphymmc I went to HD and was going to get 2- 2"x6"x10' and also 2- 2"x8"x10' was over $40 went to my local lumber yard and it was the same price. And I live in vermont. Was think of building a cabin and a gargue. But with the cost of lumber was wondering if it would be cheaper to buy a cheap mill and a load of logs?
OLD SIXTY ARMORY Good chance it would be in the long run. Plus you could sell all your log processing equipment after you’re done if you want. I would contact some tree services in your area to see if you can find some logs and prices to see how feasible it is in your area.
Depends on the application. For exterior use it's good after 2-3 months. It can be used right off the mill but it will shrink and warp. Interior use it needs to be 7-10% moisture content...Which can be done in the kiln pretty fast. Air drying outside can take a year per inch of thickness...then it needs to be left inside for a while to acclimate.
Steve Dawson Not usually. My woods have been in need of thinning for a long time, so I try to be wise about which trees I cut. Opening up the forest floor a little makes it all much healthier. Plus I get nice lumber from it.
It would seem like you need much more than just the sawmill. You need a source of logs, chainsaw, some sort of machine to gather the logs and bring them to the mill, and a variety of other tools. Definitely doable, but the price of the mill is only part of it if you were starting from nothing. Hiring a saw mill for a day sounds better for someone who isn't going to continuously saw lumber. Homemade lumber can not be used for housing in many locations where inspectors lurk. Outbuildings are probably fine depending on the locale.
I bought my manual mill a couple of years ago Woodlands 130 and learned to mark the end of my A grade logs with a woodworkers triangle so I keep track of book matched planks. BTW that ugly pine sells here for $6 a board foot.(Beetle kill) ....Saw On Boss, Bsafe
These logs were fairly clean, not much dirt, just weathered bark. Log with lots of dirt will wreck a blade fast. Good clean logs can make the blade last through 5-10 logs.
Thanks for another great video... I didn't see your little helper in this video! When you plained the boards for the deck did you do just one side or both sides? Also do you get any sniping with the Grizzly planer? Could you please give me the model number on your DeWalt power attachment for your winch, thank you. Looking forward to your next video.
OLD SCHOOL MACHINIST It’s just a standard drill that I built an adapter for. Check “This simple sawmill hack will keep you cutting all day!” That’ll show how I made the adapter. Only planed one side. It does snipe but I just cut that end off. Depends on how well I support the end as to how bad the snipe is.
We love our Woodland Mills 126. To be able to cut what you need and in your wood of choice is simply priceless. I use Cherry and Hemlock more than anything and they look amazing for stairs etc. We are lucky here in NE TN to have an amazing choice of hard and soft woods. I call our milling a big money saving hobby. Keep in mind too that a good used mill will sell for more than you paid if you no longer need it given the 6 mos to a year lead time and the price of a new mill just keeps going up 👍😎👌 Now I have to add we do have a Cat excavator and Swinger loader so even at 75 handling one ton logs is easy and even fun work. Most of our equipment all work to complement each other on our little homestead. Btw we heat with wood only so nothing goes to waste.
Thanks for another great video. I can't tell you how much I enjoy watching them. I'm living vicariously through you.
nice, we visited my wife uncle over the summer and he had a mill, it was quite fun to use it. He is milling all of the wood to build his house. he called the other day and said the wood we milled over that week he is now using as the walls (inside) for the master bedroom and bathroom. it was quite fun and nice to see hard work going into something so useful. enjoyed the mill.
I have had my LT15Go for about 10 months, I love it! We milled the lumber for a small barn for our goats and are about done with a firewood shed. I also really like having my own lumberyard! We plan on a few more outbuildings, and you are right, my mill will pay for itself in just my buildings. But as you say, with a manual mill, you are going to work, but I really don't mind, and I love opening a log and seeing what God has created.
I really enjoy my Woodmizer, It is paying for itself. I milled for a guy the other day who is going to build his retirement home with the lumber.That gives a certain amount of satisfaction to know I am helping someone reach their goals also. Ron
Ron Wood are you certified to grade lumber for structural work or is it not required?
Your project is a good reminder and lesson to everyone how owning your own mill saves a lot of money over time and pays for itself pretty quick. Looks like your going to have a nice front porch when your done.
U S A Patriot I think so too. Appreciate you stopping by!
That's a great camera shot directly behind the blade!!! Actually, there are a ton of great angles/views!
Great work!
dantco Thank you!
Excellent vid my friend. I'm in the same boat as you... but I'm building my own since I have a ton of logs from the local forest fire that ripped thru here. I currently used a chainsaw mill but the amount of sawdust and loss of wood is forcing me to go the bandsaw route. Liked the close up video too, gave me some details of the mill frame I was lacking. I'm milling some true dimension 2 x 6 red cedar for my back deck and so far it's incredible stuff. Your info and detailed info about cost, cutting and salvaging the ugly looking logs was very helpful. Keep it up.
You can't believe how much I enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Looks like the mill is doing great! Had an old friend give me some good advice one time so I’ll pass it along, he said when it’s hard to tell exactly where you are on your measuring scale just look at the dial it has marks like a tape measure so you will atleast be able to tell if you are on a 1/2 1/4 1/8 or 1/16 mark. I’m sure you already knew that but I didn’t at the time and it was a huge time saver so thought I’d tell you it really helped me cut more accurately also
It's doing well. I'm really enjoying it. Appreciate that tip! I usually just try to keep track of which notch I start on so I can use that notch as a point of reference. I have noticed those different length marks, however. Always appreciate you stopping by.
I have enjoyed watching your videos. If I were a few years younger I would definitely be looking at getting a sawmill like what you have. Thanks for the videos and keep them coming. I also appreciate the videos about the bees and the honey production. May the Lord continue to bless you and your family. Be safe and enjoy the bounty of God's creation.
Finally a full length video on cutting wood I am getting sick of all these 5-8 minute videos of cutting one log 3 days worth of watching someone cut the same log gets old in a hurry. Great job on the video and taking the time to do a complete video. thank you
Larry Downes Thanks for stopping by, Larry! How are you doing by the way?
@@falllineridge Doing good shoulder is working good again will get the other one done this winter I hope. I have to repair the sawmill I went to move it to weld on it and forgot to fasten the saw head down and it it took off like an Olympic sprinter and did a flip off the sawmill track and bent a few things and broke the water jug, all in all not bad at all for a 1000 lbs flying threw the air LOL
Larry Downes 😂 It’s not funny but your description is perfect. Glad to hear you’re on the up and up.
They look every bit as good as any lumber you would get at any big box store, so you did an excellent job salvaging that which would have otherwise been firewood.
When sawing its always a surprise when you open up a log. I have seen some of the best looking logs be total junk and the ugliest yeild some of the nicest boards. Your sawing skills are spot on now very well done and you couldn't be more right. Having a mill will not just save you a small fortune. But it can be a huge source of income as they are always someone wanting logs sawed. Then they are no shortage of those who need custom lumber.
Ken Jett It’s really satisfying when a trashy log yields quality lumber. Appreciate you stopping by, Ken! Thanks as always.
A feeling of accomplishment knowing where the lumber came from and doing the job yourself!👍
Keep it up.
My second time leaving a comment.... I have much respect for you .. you are definitely a hard worker....and like you said makes more sense to have your own meal if you have trees and you can also make money with it.............JJ...
Appreciate you watching, Anthony! Thanks for the comment.
Good job with explaining the sawmill experience and listing ALL vendors. I have the Frontier OS-27 manual mill and you are spot on about sweating with a manual mill, as a hobbyist and woodworker this suits me just fine.
How do you like that mill? It looks like a good little machine.
@@falllineridge For $4500 I got the extended track and a box of blades and a whole lot of fun. I can cut up to 27 inch by 17ft which I wanted for framing material for outdoor pole barn and lean to. I find it to be a good little machine for my needs. It has by far paid for itself in saving lumber cost. I would love to upgrade but right now things are going good. Thanks
Paul Boulware That’s essentially the capacity of my LT15. Sounds like you got a screaming deal.
Thank you for the great video. I live in the city and I am considering buying or renting one of these for all the lumber projects I have got coming up. Thank you for taking the time to explain and show the process.
That deck is amazing,and to think that the wood was right in the back yard😀
I’d love to have one. Great video! Thanks for putting the economic side out there for everyone to get a perspective.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good video amigo, I have had two wood mizers. One was an early LT30, had it for several years, the next was a brand new LT40HD, and it is still running and cutting wood after 15 years. I made a living from it at Pacific Coast Lumber. A couple video's on my site, more coming. Great job.
Nice job thanks brother I got a 130 woodland mill, haven’t even cut yet but am excited thanks again
You'll have a blast! Thanks for watching.
I just had an idea. I wonder if you could add like I think it's called unirail. It's a metal channel with holes used to hang things from ceilings in commercial/industrial buildings. But you could put a few lengths here and there alond the bunks but low enough not to interfere with the operation. Then you have a good spot to stick your pivy or a pry bar to persuade a log or in this video boards against the stops.
That's an excellent idea! Thanks!
Always great to see another Sawyer on TH-cam. Not enough of us doing good quality videos. Seems you use your green lumber directly from the mill? I know you mentioned a "dried log". Be great to see your moisture content in your "green" lumber and also see longer term how your decking boards are doing. Are they warping, cracking, etc? We mill mainly salvaged urban trees and sell exclusively kiln dried lumber right now. For the purpose of interior furniture so moisture is a big deal for our lumber application. Keep it up! Love your use of these logs which most would let go to waste.
I have used it green for my solar kiln, and there was some shrinkage. But it held up fine. For interior use I dry it down to 7% or so in the kiln...or let it acclimate after air drying. Some of these green logs can have 30+ percent moisture fresh!
I have about 20 acres with plenty of dead ash and just as many beech that need removed, and I am using my LT35 to saw lumber from them.
I just finished a trim package for my Farm market stand, it would have cost at least $500 at another local sawmill for hardwood trim, and I probably spent about $50 on a saw blade and gas to cut it myself. It is very satisfying to be able to cut the tree down, skid it out, and saw it up yourself. I have plans of putting up a few more buildings and cutting the lumber package myself. I dont have any hard figures yet but I figure that I could lumber for more than five buildings for the same cost as the lumber for just one
Great comment! It is very satisfying to cut all the wood yourself. Thank you for watching!
Awesome I think that they all turned out well now myself the first ones are definitely my favourite great video thumbs up my friend
You did a really good job 👍.. I would have never thought you got that much lumber out of those trees........... JJ...
I was surprised myself.
I was watching this video. Just a comment and some inside. Here in Saskatchewan if I were to purchase the lumber that you have listed I would have paid a lot more. We have mills here close to where I live but the lumber is import from British Columbia, which I don’t understand. I can see the need to have your own mill. Love your videos please keep them coming.
Thank you, Norman. Appreciate the comment!
Oh say it ain't so.. Sweat equity. lol Wes, you do the best on youtube with your videos. I thoroughly enjoy them. By the way, another inspiration from you. I am going to break out my first beehive this coming spring.
Great job on the porch. Looks wonderful!
I just started watching your channel and I have a question. Do you also kiln dry your lumber before using them?
Recently bought 40 acres here in northern Ontario and been thinking of getting one. Big investment but I think it will pay for itself once I start building a cabin. Lumber is not cheap! A bit over 10 bucks for a 2x4x8 now after taxes, it's crazy.
I liked the video. I've been looking at that same lt15 go for a few years. Just haven't bought it yet. I'm interested in your decision to keep the base engine and add power feed instead of adding the 25 up engine. Do you ever wish you had gotten a different engine? I am also interested in the manual toe board. I worked at an old sawmill growing up. From turning logs to running the edger and offbearing. So I do know what work is involved running a mill.
Thanks for watching, Jimmy. I decided to not upgrade the engine because I was used to running my LT10 with a 10hp engine, so I figured that nearly doubling my horsepower would be sufficient. That decision has worked out well for me. However, most of the logs I saw are on the small to medium side. Rarely do I get anything over 18". If I were sawing 20" plus on a regular basis, the 25hp engine would probably have been worth it. If I ever wear this engine out I'd like to replace it with the 17hp diesel option. The power feed is worth its weight in gold. I don't think Woodmizer offers a manual toe board with this mill. There's a Sawyer on TH-cam, Josaljo Won, who made his own. You might check him out (but I suspect you're already familiar with him.)
@@falllineridge Most of my timber is small to medium. The timber I'm willing to cut. I've watched a few of his videos. I haven't seen the one about the manual toe board. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the reply.
I am glad you used them anyway. Even ugly logs need love! Lol
Heh heh. You seem to enjoy doing intricate camera work as much as you enjoy milling. Some good stuff here, thanks.
I have a question: when you just fell a tree for a project, how do you dry the lumber? Or do you process the wet lumber?
It depends on whether the tree is dead or alive when you fell it. I believe you are supposed to let a live or green tree set for a year before you mill it and then sticker it for 6 months. I have heard that after milling some trees like black walnut they need to sit stacked and stickered for 7 years before they are really ready to use. Don't quote me on that one, just something I have heard. The biggest reason you want wood to dry is for shrinkage, you don't want to build something and then have big gaps a year later. Some species of wood shrink more than others and some take longer to dry than others. Kinda need to know what wood you are working with. :)
You mentioned how much you save on lumber but do you treat the lumber for decking and extended outdoor use?
Yes, we will be treating the porch. Untreated pine is not very rot resistant. Even still, buying the water sealer is a small expense in comparison to the hundreds that we've saved on the porch so far.
I as a former owner used the wood in trade for beef, eggs, vegetables, labor for me in turn, and I encouraged people go local and keep the money here in our town, not some foreign bank. Once money leaves it never comes back. Go to the large stores and only have one check out going/checker and wait in line for a heap of time to get home and find out parts or all of it needs to go back and get the right stuff again and hope they can read the slip that the ink comes off of it in your shirt pocket. Err, I hate that. Most people who own a home are willing to swap good stuff that something what they have will help you and the rent/taxes are still in your pocket.
I like when you push over a stack of finished boards or posts after the final cut. Very dramatic and really emphasizes what you have just accomplished.
Were the boards or logs before they were cut into boards air dried for a period of time or do they do alright nailing them down with a fairly high moisture content?
I don't know much about lumber, even less about milling, but aren't those first boards bowed like crazy? Is anything done to straighten them? Pressure? Something else?
Yes, that was a result of improper stacking during the drying process. They worked fine though because we screwed them to the porch. That got the bow out.
I'd sure like to have a woodmizer sawmill, I've got about 2 acres of Poplar I'd like to cut. Been wanting to build a cabin and I've got 3 acres altogether. I like that L15go.What's the price on one of those? Great video!
I think the base model is around 10k. Check www.woodmizer.com.
I Thank you, your video was very informative and encouraging.
Those boards are perfection
These particular boards you cut a straight edge on, had the been cut awhile and you going back to true the edge up?
I got a stack of Loblolly thats dry with a curved edge as they were in the drying process. I need to resaw the edges.
GOD'S handy work!!! Nice way of putting it. He is the master creator!
Indeed He is.
Amen brother, if you think about it when you first open it up you are the first to see Gods handy work from years ago!! Nobody else has seen it but you and God! It's awesome!! Good video!
Amen brother
Great video. I subscribe to another sawyer's channel too. Its called Out of The Woods. I have no clue why I love to watch sawmills work. It's not like I'm going buy one myself.
He's got some excellent content. Appreciate you watching! I agree, there's something very satisfying about it.
I walked into WoodCraft today. I was curious how much they would charge for walnut. For a 1x4x36" 35.00 (milled). I was shocked. I have sawn several hundred BF of walnut, its just sitting in by back yard.
Good grief! That's insane.
How long do you have to wait for the boards to cure, or do you use a kiln to cure the lumber that you cut.
Damm.., if I owned some timber I would buy one of these machines.., just because..., "He who dies with the most toy's wins". Nice vid. Is the timber Oregan Pine.., worth a royal arm and leg here in Australia.
Go ahead and shake that money maker! Love it, thumbs up.
That cat eye is beautiful. Would make a great piece of furniture.
Well done chum. To the point and informative.
Well, I'm sold. I will buy a mill tomorrow! ;-P But seriously, not only do you save money on lumber, I find myself building things I wouldn't normally if I didn't have a mill. It gives you access to materials you wouldn't normally think to spend money on. There are few reasons to not have a mill:-)
Why do you leave some bark on the boards? I would think that the area with bark in it would be useless right? Please correct me if I’m wrong
Enjoy your videos very much. I mainly cut and split firewood so seeing others use a saw mill like this is very refreshing and gets my wheels turning.
Had a question. I see that when you stack a group of boards with the live edge showing - you only cut a few inches then flip and repeat. But then have to flip back to that same side and cut again. Why wouldn't you just make 1 pass of 4-5 inches instead of making multiple smaller cuts of only 2 inches or so? I would think it would save you time and energy to just cut the amount necessary once per side instead of multiple smaller cuts.
Thanks for the videos and I look forward to many more to come.
That was just a mistake. I usually do exactly what you are talking about...take enough off so I don't have to repeat...but that time I didn't. Glad you're enjoying the channel!
So, do you use those trimmed pieces for stickers when air drying your lumber?
Sometimes I do. Right now I have a ton of stickers saved up, so I did not save these.
Hey brother, nice video. As somebody else mentioned, the camera angles are cool. Do you usually build your projects right after milling, or do you dry the lumber? I know certain stuff can be built with green lumber (allowing for movement) but have you noticed anything on your other projects regarding wood shrinking or moving in some way? I’m researching all of this, including kilns. I live in western Arizona, but have 26 acres of big, old maples and oak in western New York and now my problem is logistics due to all the bugs in the wood. A lot, if not all, counties in NY have quarantines on wood. I plan on getting into milling for my own projects, slabs, and firewood. That’s why I’m seriously thinking about setting up kiln first. Keep up the good work and God bless brother
I build my solar kiln out of green wood, and it did well. There was some shrinking, but overall it did really well. Of course, you are better off letting it dry for a while. That keeps the fasteners strong due to no pulling away of the material. When using the wood for interior use, it helps to dry it in a kiln to 7% or so. That eliminates that annoying little bit of shrinking that happens when the humidity really dips during the winter months. At least that's how it works in our climate. Appreciate you watching!
Do you still have the LT10? I’m on looking at LT10 & LT15. Just not sure which is more practical for my use yet. I only have 6 acres of pretty heavily forested land. I’m in the Sierra Mountains in CA. I have many other resources for fell trees as well.
Since you bought that 15 , I've noticed you've gotten creative with the camera. I love the new angles. 8:37, Ya finally got smart using the cant hook, or is it a peavy? Porch floor looks terrific. 10X30? That'swhole lot more than decent sized, taht's awesome. I noticed the Taylor County Fire tee. As a retired FF from up in MA., is it a full time or volunteer dept? Strong mind too.
Jim Willoughby Was a volunteer FF for a little while, no longer though. Makes a good work shirt now. It’s a cant hook. Appreciate the porch and camera compliments! Looking forward to enjoying the porch this fall.
Hey brother what you think about chain saw milling.
Very nice job.👍🏻I enjoyed the video.👍🏻
You gone put any kind of sealer on the porch deck ? i been building a porch from pine sawn on a Woodmizer. Treated 6x6x16 for Load bearing post. They were 67.00 each at Handy Andy.
Jerry Little Most definitely.
I agree! I do need a sawmill! lol
This would help me out so much!
I'm thinking that would be one heck of a way to "split" firewood, especially the knarly pieces that are difficult to split. (My log splitter is on the fritz.)
I think you might be onto something.
When you use lumber after milling, do you need to dry it before building with it? I am thinking of using my milled trees for a new shop but am afraid that it will start twisting and turning if I don't dry it first.
Josaljo Won on TH-cam is a retired home builder and has an LT15. He can answer just about any question regarding milling and construction.
You can build with green lumber, but you're better off stacking and stickering it and letting it dry for a while. Green lumber shrinks and that compromises the strength of the fasteners. Plus there will be some warping. It doesn't have to be bone dry, just let it get the shrinking and twisting out of its system. 14% moisture is a good goal.
Enjoyed your video thanks
I see Taylor County Fire on some of your shirts, would that be Georgia. Just asking, I^m in Houston County.
I agree too. Need a sawmill!
Why do I end up watching this video when I’ve got my own saw and I’m milling every day I still can’t get enough LOL
Sawmills are cool👍🏼
Great job
I don't know where you put the camera for that pass that started at 2:59, but for a second I thought I was going to get splinters up my nose. 😱😂
I had to grab my safety glasses just to watch!!!
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I guess I'm not the only one that felt that way.
Ha!
how much do you spend for the logs?
Merry Christmas!
Gettin' creative with the GoPro placement I see...BTW, when you harvested that red cedar log from the church-yard, you had a hand-crank winch. I see now it's electrified. Was that a custom job or did you buy some type of add-on kit for your Woodmizer?
Thank you for the video..........JJ...
Do you edge after air drying or while it is green?
Not poster of video but what would be the benefit if waiting to air dry for edging?
I love the video, and I DO need a sawmill--I'm just too poor right now. Lol!! Btw, a small tip from a public speaker: you might want to keep your religious views to yourself if you want to appeal to more people. Religious comments tend to alienate many, and they can distract viewers from your main message. But it's a free web so it's up to you. Anyway, cheers!
Appreciate you watching! I know the feeling of being too poor for a mill. That's why I make payments. Thanks for the tip also, always appreciate input.
You can talk about God anytime BTW, god is not offensive
@@282dday Yes, talking about god or gods IS offensive to anyone who follows reason (the majority of Americans). Also, I never sad he couldn't do it. I suggested he not. He didn't seem to mind. Why do you?
Jeffstone17 It’s a shame you get offended so easily, God creation never stops amazing us, he finds that miracle in every cut
@@282dday And it's amazing that you still live your life by a Bronze Age book. Most of us prefer to live in a world that doesn't promote genocide, slavery, women as property, child murder--yeah a real miracle. And somehow you can ignore those passages and keep fooling yourself.
Would love to know how much a load of logs are and how many board feet per load? Then add the cost of mill and cost to run it and see if it is cheaper than homedepot.
Probably won't be cheaper to start with, but the quality will far surpass any Home Depot I've been in. I live up in the Northwest , eastern Washington to be more accurate, trees all around, you'd think Home Depot could find some good lumber, nope, doesn't seem to happen. Local lumber yards are the solution.
@@murphymmc I went to HD and was going to get 2- 2"x6"x10' and also 2- 2"x8"x10' was over $40 went to my local lumber yard and it was the same price. And I live in vermont. Was think of building a cabin and a gargue. But with the cost of lumber was wondering if it would be cheaper to buy a cheap mill and a load of logs?
OLD SIXTY ARMORY Good chance it would be in the long run. Plus you could sell all your log processing equipment after you’re done if you want. I would contact some tree services in your area to see if you can find some logs and prices to see how feasible it is in your area.
Great job enjoyed that!!!!
Mike Hornsby Thanks, Mike!
Muito bom trabalho com madeira já faz 40 anos e adoro minha profissão.
Good video, thanks ..... Ruff Ruff
Thanks, Glenn. I'm going to post an update on Cricket soon. A lot of folks are asking about her. She's doing fine, by the way.
@@falllineridge great
How long did you air dry your planking?
Depends on the application. For exterior use it's good after 2-3 months. It can be used right off the mill but it will shrink and warp. Interior use it needs to be 7-10% moisture content...Which can be done in the kiln pretty fast. Air drying outside can take a year per inch of thickness...then it needs to be left inside for a while to acclimate.
I noticed your Taylor County Fire Shirt are you in Florida? I spent almost twenty years in the fire service in Florida.
Nice job 👍 I’m sure there’s a lot to learn about that! Satisfying though...
I need one of these 😀Good video..
Great video 👍
Awesome!!
What's your experience with the longevity of natural untreated lumber, compared to at least heat treated or chemically treated board?
Treated or sealed lumber will always outlast untreated lumber. Especially with pine.
do you think buying a truck of logs and make lumber from it a good idea?
Never done it, but I'm sure it would if you could get good trees at a fair price.
Do you replace the trees that you cut down. I always replanted more trees then I cut? Just asking. Great video thanks!!
Steve Dawson Not usually. My woods have been in need of thinning for a long time, so I try to be wise about which trees I cut. Opening up the forest floor a little makes it all much healthier. Plus I get nice lumber from it.
@@falllineridge makes senses thanks for getting back with me.
It would seem like you need much more than just the sawmill. You need a source of logs, chainsaw, some sort of machine to gather the logs and bring them to the mill, and a variety of other tools. Definitely doable, but the price of the mill is only part of it if you were starting from nothing. Hiring a saw mill for a day sounds better for someone who isn't going to continuously saw lumber.
Homemade lumber can not be used for housing in many locations where inspectors lurk. Outbuildings are probably fine depending on the locale.
Where do you get your logs?
1990 C4 Mostly from my property.
@@falllineridge can this turn into a business?
1990 C4 Certainly, if you have enough trees or can get logs from somewhere. Lots of people mill portable for others too.
@@falllineridge To be your own boss! Cut fire wood too your living the deeam
I bought my manual mill a couple of years ago Woodlands 130 and learned to mark the end of my A grade logs with a woodworkers triangle so I keep track of book matched planks. BTW that ugly pine sells here for $6 a board foot.(Beetle kill) ....Saw On Boss, Bsafe
how long does the blade last when you use those dirty logs
These logs were fairly clean, not much dirt, just weathered bark. Log with lots of dirt will wreck a blade fast. Good clean logs can make the blade last through 5-10 logs.
Well Done...........
Thanks for another great video... I didn't see your little helper in this video! When you plained the boards for the deck did you do just one side or both sides? Also do you get any sniping with the Grizzly planer? Could you please give me the model number on your DeWalt power attachment for your winch, thank you. Looking forward to your next video.
OLD SCHOOL MACHINIST It’s just a standard drill that I built an adapter for. Check “This simple sawmill hack will keep you cutting all day!” That’ll show how I made the adapter. Only planed one side. It does snipe but I just cut that end off. Depends on how well I support the end as to how bad the snipe is.
what did your mill cost you?