Love the convos with you two. You guys nerd out like me n im here for it. Should keep it a recurring thing a few times a year and get another reactor or two to join you. It's nice and informational for people about to go balls out themselves and want to be educated going into a startup channel.. cough*cough* 😘😉😇😈😈😈🤘💀🤙much love🖤🔥
Oh and FYI the man's caped products are really nice. I got them for my face actually lol and I have no complaints. Not saying take my word for it but if your shaver dies I'd recommend it 🤓👌 I agree with not everything is added value or something anyone wants to sit through an ad for on a music channel. It may make them click off if it annoys them out of spite.
🙋🏻♂️ I watch 2 hour interviews! Fellas... I learned a lot... Thank You! I have WAY more respect for the both of you. My gears are turning and love hearing a fresh take on what's going on in this world. KEEP DOING THESE AWESOME THINGS! 🤘🔥
Exactly. I could watch (and many times did watch the video before) the video without any reactor. But the breakdown, background info etc. is why I started watching in the first place.
Totally agree! The gear talk lets you get to know more about your favorite artist. So this, coupled with an entertaining persona, makes Tank stand tall in the sea of reactors out there, in my opinion.
I am happy, that you do what you do! You guys help "my" bands Feuerschwanz, Saltatio Mortis, Majestica, Eskimo Callboy, etc. a lot to get known in the US. It is a win-win: the bands get a bigger crowd and the US people get more cool bands to listen to. And there is a chance, that they come over and do gigs in the US. Thank you very much for your effort!
Yo, on the topic of reactor's value. There is a difference between a 'value add' reactor and just a reactor. You (Tank) and Nik are some of the most compelling 'value add' reactors on the web (that I have seen). Tank brings a ton to video in terms of technical know-how. Straight up makes me more invested in the piece if I know something about hoops that had to be jumped through to make some of these sounds happen. And Nik, adds immense entertainment value (plus some technical stuff, but its not really his niche) with the memes and community overtones (rawrs, chunks, grrrrs etc..). Outside of this being a complementary piece, it is to say anyone who argues that reactors don't add value "you are missing a significant amount of nuance in your take". Rant-ish thing over, I love your guys' content. I have definitely learned about new mainstay bands in my playlists from you guys. Keep it up. Peace 🤘🤘🤘✌✌✌
Side note, I don't want to speak for everyone. But I will definitely consume long ass content 3+ hours pretty consistently if the people are interesting to listen to. You definitely fit into that category, you have good questions and you have a conversation not an interview.
I came here for all gear talk, behind the scenes chat and to listen to basically you just talking to us. I've watched almost none of your reaction videos thus far. I'll get there eventually. I just want to hear what you have to say, the way you present it. You make me reminisce about my younger days as a roadie myself, a whole lifetime ago for me now. I greatly enjoy your channel.
I'm over 50 and last year my husband discoverd reaction channels. Since then you are our new MTV Headbangers ball. So many new bands. New albums to buy. None of that would have happend without this channels 😄
I have found so many new bands thanks to reactors like you, Nik, and Mark. I discovered Sabaton because of you. I've now spent around $250 on hoodies, sweatpants, and a few other things from them. All because of your reaction videos. I did find you from Eskimo Callboy, Hypa Hypa. But with them, I heard them on a twitch channel like a year after Hype Hypa came out. If their label/producer hadn't allowed that, I wouldn't have bought merch, Pump It CD, and now tickets to fly from NC to Las Vegas next year to see them. Some others I've found from your guys' channels are Feuerschwanz, Saltatio Mortis, Blind Channel, Nightwish and I'm sure there are more that I will find because I'm still going through your guys' older stuff. I hope more publishers realize this, come around, and let you guys monetize. They clearly can afford to let the monetizing happen and make that amount back sooooo fast. Keep kicking ass!
And I've also been now showing the crap out of EC to my coworkers, getting them hooked. As well as Sabaton and the other bands. Some at least have heard of Sabaton but others not. But if any of these guys show up to NC, I got a small group now willing to go. But if ones like Sabaton show up anywhere, like EC in Vegas, I'm gonna find one of them that I can make it too. And if they then add one close to me after I book one, then I'm gonna go to two of them lol.
Brilliant conversation, a BIG Thank You to you Tank and Nik!!! That YT algorithm is not in any way perfect, I'm sure you already know that. Floor Jansen did a cover of Lara Fabian's Adagio about a year ago, and YT identified it as Lara herself singing. I don't know if she got a Copyright Strike on the video, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did. Abstract values - That's what you are dealing with when you get the Copyright strikes, the label can see how big the financial loss will be for a song reaction that never is done. I have some experience of those abstract values, having worked in Public Transport for 43 years and the last 26 in Rail Carried Public Transport. I'm sure you know that there are accidents here and there around Rail Carried vehicles (both intentional and pure accidental), and a lot of work goes in to trying to prevent that. It's easy enough to calculate the cost of an accident, Insurance payments and Invalid pensions and all other costs around it. All sorts of Safety Measures are set up trying to prevent accidents of all kinds, but it is always very difficult to get the costs for the Safety Measures covered by the Agency responsible for them, because it's impossible to put a price tag on an accident that never happen. Somewhat the same with song reactions, what would the financial loss be for a label for a reaction that never is done? And that "It will be done sooner or later anyway"- kind of reasoning you get from some labels - I don't think that Lady Fortune is synced in to the YT Algorithm. A 5 minute guitar talk break in an Arch Enemy video - No, I can't see anything bad in that. Waiting for the video to come up. Cheers / B.
I should admit that I never have seen any of Nik's videos as of now. I am currently subscribed to 78 YT Channels, and I have been very restrictive about adding any more to that. But maybe I should add one more Channel...? / B.
lmao I remembered when I finished part 1 of the convo I was searching on both yours and Nik's channels to find part 2. It really engaging to kinda pick your brains and gain insights on how reactions contributes and push forward the how music scenes. Great job guys and keep doing what you're doing!
Music is life for me and it's nice hearing other people who feel it the same way talk about the whole experience. Being able to interact with the idols you grow to love and lookup to is a really cool thing even with any amount of work put in. You're going to look at new music to you anyway so sharing it with others is what is pushing me
To your genre breaking mash up thoughts around 1:03:30 - I always felt like Billie Eilish would fit in some modern / industrial metal perfectly. Although the best possible mashup would have been Michael Jackson as a Glam Metal/stadium rock vocalist. Seriously, just listen to his evil rasp and emotion in for instance 'Leave me alone' or the kind of... gospel breakdown in 'Keep the Faith' or 'They don't really care about us'. He would have ruled the scene for 101%. 🤩🤣 Thx for that podcast a like long talks, I'd watch more of them for sure. :)
Reaction channels have become one of my favorite types of videos lately. When a new song I love drops I'm usually looking up reactions first thing, usually hoping you, Nik or Alex have done one, lmao. I've also like you said, have discovered so many amazing bands from reaction videos. Amazing part 2, loved listening to you guys go so in depth about something you're so passionate about.
Tank i must disagree about you saying knowone will watch this for over an hour. This was by far the best video/interview ive seen on utube. I couldn't stop watching and loved hearing you guys talk about how and why you are doing this and why you have to becareful on certain things. I first heard of Nik doing rock star cover with Andy and loved it. I loved hearing him talk about you need to know your worth. Great job on this video. Keep up the great work and you have a fan for life. Would you be able to do a episode about pros and cons on bands being signed or unsigned. Also when you get signed and make a album and tour does the rocord company give you a loan to support the tour then you pay it back.
Personally, the insight into how the live concert work etc. is one of the really cool thing this channel brings. The "tank facts" is also one of my favorite things as well.
Great talk of you two. To the topic of why metalheads are not too happy when their favourite band gets too much exposure: I think a lot of it is the fear that if they get too "big" they might get influenced by the (newer) public oppinion or labels to make their music more mainstream instread of the niche they were in before. And people want what they know even if it might get stale
Because it was so casual it was a breeze to listen to both parts. I could easily listen to part III and IV. So bring on the update in half a year or something 🙂
Late to the party, I just finished watching both parts. Great conversation chaps. Nice being able to take a look at some things and thoughts going on when the camera goes off. When you said you had twitch streams showing guitar tech work, I had no idea. I've seen a vid here on YT where you were video taping on the road with the country singer... I guess I should check out your twitch because that sounds super interesting. Or maybe repost the vod on my YT? Big Brain singer does that too. Full disclosure, I usually don't check twitch because you know it'll end up a multi hour session. I only watch Devin Townsend on twitch, I can hear him talk for hours! That reminds me, nice hearing you love different types of music. I had a hunch, since you tech for a country singer. If you hated that it would be hard staying motivated on the road. Actually, I take that back, I should have realized that just from watching at the wall behind you. Why you'd want to tech for Devy now also makes sense. Even if there's technical difficulties, he'd find a way to entertain the audience and not slash out to the crew. Also, he could play face melting metal one day, new age the next (by a thread) Anyway, I'm rambling! Great "podcast" as you called it in part 1! Thanks to Nik as well, I hopped over to his channel to subscribe. I did watch him but usually my husband and I watch him on the tv on his account, so now I used my 2 accounts to sub too. Yay! (Edit: fixed some phone auto correct mutilations)
On gatekeeping in metal: I don't know if I just happen to get very lucky or if this is really more of a North America problem, but literally every metalhead I know (I'm Austrian) listens to other music genres as well. The biggest overlap I see, ironically, is with german Schlager for some reason lol. But generally classic pop from the 90ies and 2000s is always a banger, I've seen dudes built like trucks with braids down to their butts rock out to Spice Girls on more than one occasion. What I notice much more is a certain dismissing of other metal subgenres, and there's often quite a bit of "hate" towards bands (and fans of bands) that are very popular, like Rammstein, Nightwish etc. Or dismissing of certain bands as being "for kids" or "for old people that don't understand current metal". Again, might just be my crowd that's like that.
Long jevity is not worrying why videos maybe don't get as many views or subs drop. It's being honest and true to you without concern and it will bounce back and higher from what I've noticed
Tank, I love your non-reactor content a ton. That video where you cleaned the guitar was super interesting, and would love to see you make a documentary about being a roadie with a band for a tour for example. Record things during a longer period of time, and then pick the most interesting of them. Because even when things repeat, something is always different.
The plural of anecdote is not necessarily data, however - broadly, because of reactors/reaction channels (including but not just you Tank :) ), I have purchased ~ 20 albums? Tickets to 10-ish shows. And then probably ~ a dozen bits of merch. And I have added soooooo many bands and songs on Spotify, Bandcamp, and TH-cam. Which I realize is not nearly as significant as an actual purchase, but hopefully is contributing towards the wellbeing of the artist as well as their visibility on the platforms.
Hey man great podcast !! I love when TH-camrs get together and just talk because there’s soo many behind the scene things I wouldn’t know about. Would love to see you talk to Finn mckenty of the punk rock mba I think you guys would have a great conversation
Brilliant again. It's actually reaction channels that have got me back into heavy music. Oceans ate alaska Metamorph on nik's channel started it and now apparently I like death core 😂
Tank, many people watch podcast channels on TH-cam and they go on for 2 or more hours. As long as your content is entertaining or educational or providing something there's always going to be a reason for someone to sit there for hours on end watching it and it was a very amazing interview. I learned so much about Nik and about TH-cam and some stuff in the music industry if you ever want to do another interview again with anyone it be amazing to see one again but don't try and limit yourself to how long it can be for I've seen podcasts that just turn into full on rants for over an hour long and well it's entertained me enough to watch lol.
I loved the opening. Who did the voice? I am totally on board with any future Tank/Nik collaborative efforts be it podcast, chill convo, or maybe even music. Good stuff.
Oh, I should have known you would have that info in the credits. And even though I have been aware of and watched the occasional Nik video for a while, I finally subscribed and watched Slavic Metal for the first time.
I love the idea of more metal/other genre mashups! I loved the Jayz and Linkin Park material. You mentioned Tech9, I absolutely love Tech. He incorporates some metalish things in his music. He did a colab with Cory from Slipknot. He's a big Slipknot fan. That's one of the things I love about Jinjer. They incorporate so many different genres and techniques from other genres in their music to make it their own and show who influenced them. I think either Tati or the band as a whole sited Cypress Hill as an influence. That's sick!! Love this "podcast"! Listening to you two just kind of shoot the shit is fucking great content man.
It's funny when you started talking about reactions going corporate level TV and shit. In Finland there used to be a TV show that had a panel of 6 famous people doing a review of new music after watching it for the first time on the show and it was really fun to watch too, but it was cancelled even tho it did do good numbers, but I guess they were way ahead of their time with that show.
Heartbroken that Lorna Shore will most likely not be on the BMTH + ADTR Tour that got postponed to 2023. Still glad that I was introduced to them by you guys, thank you for that, for all your work and passion you are putting into your videos. Keep going dudes 🤘🏼
@ 9:56 Speaking of "bringing new life" to bands' older music... how about helping the gang known as Whispered with their songs "strike!" or "Jikininki"?? Amazing finnish metal band playing Kabuki themed metal. Theyre a very small band with a ton of talent that honestly just need exposure.
He wants more diverse reaction requests? Hold my beer. OK, so that's but a small selection but probably enough for now. Link to a playlist with all the songs below (selected so there's equipment to see when possible) The two non-german ones first: - "Die Antwoord" - 'I fink u freeky' - electro hip hop mashup from south afrika - "Stimmhorn" - 'Trioahattalaha' - iaginary folk from switzerland - "Ton Steine Scherben" - 'Der Traum ist aus' - 70-rock - "Kraftklub" - 'Ich will nicht nach Berlin' - indie-rock with a bit of hip hop - "Mutabor" - 'Laster' - ska-punk - "Peter Fox" - 'Haus am See' - dancehall (one of the singers of "Seeed") - "Max Raabe ft. Sammy Deluxe" - 'Der perfekte Moment' - Comedian Harmonists style featuring hip hop - "Kraftwerk" - 'Autobahn' - absolute pioneers of electronic music - "The Fat Rat" - 'Unity' - glitch-hop - "K.I.Z. ft. Henning May" - 'Hurrah die Welt geht unter' - hip hop - "Alligatoah" - 'Amnesie' - hip hop - "Sido" - 'schlechtes Vorbild' - hip hop If you need more suggestions (or translations for the german songs) don't hesitate to ask. Playlist with the songs: th-cam.com/play/PL6PO6ji_HC5sS4mS9mfRtnmkEjyT1hpt5.html
Haha Tank, Jay-Z and Linkin Park is going kinda old school, which is really odd because I never really pictured me being old school in that sense. Numb/Encore is really great, that album was good too, and really Linkin Park has always had that sorta sound/influence because of Mike Shinoda being more on the rap side of things, another reason why I believe that mash-up worked so well. Chester being as great of a vocalist as he was really added a lot to it as well, especially for a breakthrough into liking harsher vocals.
I am confused. Is that the same voice at the beginning of the video that did the intros and outros for Nightwish's Making of a new album? Otherwise great interview. Love you both.
@TankTheTech I 1000% agree on the old man tiktok thing. I give ohrion reacts shit all the time for tiktok and he agrees but he says the same thing that so many new subs came from his tiktok short vids!
Thumbs up for your statement that one should also look beyond the musical horizon, and thus fitting to your statement that as a metal fan one should not only listen to or do metal: There is a rap group from Germany (Beginner) who once coined the phrase in their Song "Fäule": "Whoever does hip-hop but only listens to hip-hop is engaging in incest." (in the original, of course, it was in German: "Wer Hip-Hop macht aber nur Hip-Hop hört, betreibt Inzest."- th-cam.com/video/E4O1R-FUQv0/w-d-xo.html). This applies analogously to all styles of music. Because that's the only way to actually develop and discover new things.
Love your chanel so much. Your reactions and interviews are so relaxed and real. I found some new bands for my playlist, I wouldn't listen to. So I wonder if you would like to react to the new Muse song (Won't stand down). Please.
I'm commenting mid-watch, but would love to hear how playing other bands' music live on Twitch works, do you need whitelisting or permissions beforehand or do you just not save the VOD? It would get muted for the most part, right? And you'd always be risking a strike there as well. They've been working for a bit on taking down live streams cause due to playing copyrighted stuff. I think the dumbasses who got banned for a few hours/days recently for watching tv shows on Twitch without permission got reported and not automatically taken down though. They were big enough to have been watched by Twitch staff though too, so that might've been it and not even had to have been reported for it.
With music, most of the time it will mute the audio in the vods to protect the streamers. Whenever I'm doing music, I also turn clipping off just to play it safe. Beyond that? Still not sure exactly how Twitch upholds strikes and copyright claims.
I really like your tech talk but i understand nearly nothing from it because i'm musical like a brick. But besides your tech talks your share of experiences as roadie makes your content so special. Most people likes to here 'war stories' from other persons there respect and had makes other experience then there self. But the most interesting for me are your "interview's" - they give a good in sighed i into world i don't no. Like all parts of the music industry. So keep doing the stuff you like but be sure you do not overwork yourself.
What do you think about artists like Matt from Trivium and how he uses Twitch to keep his audience engaged? Do you think more artists will do the same?
I think what he and some other artists are doing on Twitch is the evolution of being a musical artist. Hans from Feuerschwanz told me in our interview that back in the day, all you had to worry about was being in a band and playing music. But nowadays with technology and how on demand everything is, you have to be a musician, a streamer, a photo editor, a video editor, and everything in between, and I totally see that. People have more contact with bands now more than any time in history, and I think what Matt is doing is a necessity for a lot of artists.
@@TankTheTech Great answer. Matt is a good example, since he is a "gamer" by heart and therefor had an interest beforehand. Other bands like Eskimo just naturally fall into bands that have both a state of mind, personality and humor that makes them succeed on the internet. I do feel bad for those bands that are trying to create a name for themselves without those tools. It will require a lot more raw talent, practice and patience to be able to reach the same hights as those more tech-savy bands. Or you need to get the right kind of fans, that spread the word or are popular in their own right. Someone in Corridor Crew recently had an Amarathe t-shirt in one of their VFX artists react. That might help Amaranthe spread their music even more. Thanks for your insight!
You got a point on how metal scene deliberately decided to stay underground, as opposed to grasp again the mainstream. I don’t know, maybe we made up our world as a way to stay aside of trends, we are protecting our heritage, because it was a countersocial movement in the 70s, then brought under the glam lights, so our soul was taken. I personally feel safe in my metal bubble, and I don’t expect Beyonce sharing scenario with Sabaton.
@@TankTheTech Well, maybe I didn't manage to explain better, but bottomline is the Metal scene in Europe was hit hard and entered defensive mode in the early 90s, protecting the scene, and becoming a subculture. We recovered, but the not-mainstream mantra remains. I (out)lived the metal thing in the 80s 90s, and the mainstream made no favors to the heavy metal. I'm glad that slowly steady the genre is blending into other styles, even pop and synth music, but I understand why we are still reluctant to see mainstream sucess...
22:50 nik has decided to stop working for exposure Edit: question for tank and nik. Are you worried at all about the state of DMCA on twitch? Big streamers flirting with the line and people have been striked and banned for watching youtube vids on twitch.
I've heard a lot about people that have had issues with Twitch as far as reacting to music and videos and stuff. Personally, I haven't had an issue yet, so I don't really have an opinion on it.
Well, congrats to all of you that got to watch this early because of the end card on the first video. 😂😂
Tank have u heard Silent Skies? Tom Englund from Evergreys new project
@@kimeklund8880 Yes he have heard them on a twitch stream
Love the convos with you two. You guys nerd out like me n im here for it. Should keep it a recurring thing a few times a year and get another reactor or two to join you. It's nice and informational for people about to go balls out themselves and want to be educated going into a startup channel.. cough*cough* 😘😉😇😈😈😈🤘💀🤙much love🖤🔥
Oh and FYI the man's caped products are really nice. I got them for my face actually lol and I have no complaints. Not saying take my word for it but if your shaver dies I'd recommend it 🤓👌 I agree with not everything is added value or something anyone wants to sit through an ad for on a music channel. It may make them click off if it annoys them out of spite.
🙋🏻♂️ I watch 2 hour interviews!
Fellas... I learned a lot... Thank You! I have WAY more respect for the both of you. My gears are turning and love hearing a fresh take on what's going on in this world. KEEP DOING THESE AWESOME THINGS! 🤘🔥
Much love, buddy! Let's get you on here for one of these!
@@TankTheTech i agree let's get @OhrionReacts to do this Tank
Oh pls dont stop the gear talk on your reactions! This is why you stand out I think, I think all those information are super interesting...:)
I agree with this
Agree!
would love to see what he would make of this crowd , Some spicy gear used there and what a track damn : th-cam.com/video/M-FRAUcv3BU/w-d-xo.html
Exactly. I could watch (and many times did watch the video before) the video without any reactor. But the breakdown, background info etc. is why I started watching in the first place.
Totally agree! The gear talk lets you get to know more about your favorite artist. So this, coupled with an entertaining persona, makes Tank stand tall in the sea of reactors out there, in my opinion.
I am happy, that you do what you do! You guys help "my" bands Feuerschwanz, Saltatio Mortis, Majestica, Eskimo Callboy, etc. a lot to get known in the US. It is a win-win: the bands get a bigger crowd and the US people get more cool bands to listen to. And there is a chance, that they come over and do gigs in the US. Thank you very much for your effort!
Yo, on the topic of reactor's value. There is a difference between a 'value add' reactor and just a reactor. You (Tank) and Nik are some of the most compelling 'value add' reactors on the web (that I have seen). Tank brings a ton to video in terms of technical know-how. Straight up makes me more invested in the piece if I know something about hoops that had to be jumped through to make some of these sounds happen. And Nik, adds immense entertainment value (plus some technical stuff, but its not really his niche) with the memes and community overtones (rawrs, chunks, grrrrs etc..). Outside of this being a complementary piece, it is to say anyone who argues that reactors don't add value "you are missing a significant amount of nuance in your take".
Rant-ish thing over, I love your guys' content. I have definitely learned about new mainstay bands in my playlists from you guys. Keep it up.
Peace
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Side note, I don't want to speak for everyone. But I will definitely consume long ass content 3+ hours pretty consistently if the people are interesting to listen to. You definitely fit into that category, you have good questions and you have a conversation not an interview.
All of those comments are much appreciated! Thank you!
@@reneschneider4740 same, dude)
I came here for all gear talk, behind the scenes chat and to listen to basically you just talking to us. I've watched almost none of your reaction videos thus far. I'll get there eventually. I just want to hear what you have to say, the way you present it. You make me reminisce about my younger days as a roadie myself, a whole lifetime ago for me now. I greatly enjoy your channel.
I'm over 50 and last year my husband discoverd reaction channels. Since then you are our new MTV Headbangers ball. So many new bands. New albums to buy. None of that would have happend without this channels 😄
I have found so many new bands thanks to reactors like you, Nik, and Mark. I discovered Sabaton because of you. I've now spent around $250 on hoodies, sweatpants, and a few other things from them. All because of your reaction videos. I did find you from Eskimo Callboy, Hypa Hypa. But with them, I heard them on a twitch channel like a year after Hype Hypa came out. If their label/producer hadn't allowed that, I wouldn't have bought merch, Pump It CD, and now tickets to fly from NC to Las Vegas next year to see them. Some others I've found from your guys' channels are Feuerschwanz, Saltatio Mortis, Blind Channel, Nightwish and I'm sure there are more that I will find because I'm still going through your guys' older stuff. I hope more publishers realize this, come around, and let you guys monetize. They clearly can afford to let the monetizing happen and make that amount back sooooo fast. Keep kicking ass!
And I've also been now showing the crap out of EC to my coworkers, getting them hooked. As well as Sabaton and the other bands. Some at least have heard of Sabaton but others not. But if any of these guys show up to NC, I got a small group now willing to go. But if ones like Sabaton show up anywhere, like EC in Vegas, I'm gonna find one of them that I can make it too. And if they then add one close to me after I book one, then I'm gonna go to two of them lol.
Steve Grace's narration is very good! Nice.
Brilliant conversation, a BIG Thank You to you Tank and Nik!!!
That YT algorithm is not in any way perfect, I'm sure you already know that. Floor Jansen did a cover of Lara Fabian's Adagio about a year ago, and YT identified it as Lara herself singing. I don't know if she got a Copyright Strike on the video, but it wouldn't surprise me if she did.
Abstract values - That's what you are dealing with when you get the Copyright strikes, the label can see how big the financial loss will be for a song reaction that never is done. I have some experience of those abstract values, having worked in Public Transport for 43 years and the last 26 in Rail Carried Public Transport. I'm sure you know that there are accidents here and there around Rail Carried vehicles (both intentional and pure accidental), and a lot of work goes in to trying to prevent that. It's easy enough to calculate the cost of an accident, Insurance payments and Invalid pensions and all other costs around it. All sorts of Safety Measures are set up trying to prevent accidents of all kinds, but it is always very difficult to get the costs for the Safety Measures covered by the Agency responsible for them, because it's impossible to put a price tag on an accident that never happen. Somewhat the same with song reactions, what would the financial loss be for a label for a reaction that never is done?
And that "It will be done sooner or later anyway"- kind of reasoning you get from some labels - I don't think that Lady Fortune is synced in to the YT Algorithm.
A 5 minute guitar talk break in an Arch Enemy video - No, I can't see anything bad in that. Waiting for the video to come up. Cheers / B.
I should admit that I never have seen any of Nik's videos as of now. I am currently subscribed to 78 YT Channels, and I have been very restrictive about adding any more to that. But maybe I should add one more Channel...? / B.
This is one of the most beneficial videos I've ever watched in terms of digital marketing. Good insight guys.
lmao I remembered when I finished part 1 of the convo I was searching on both yours and Nik's channels to find part 2. It really engaging to kinda pick your brains and gain insights on how reactions contributes and push forward the how music scenes. Great job guys and keep doing what you're doing!
There is a lot that can be said about everything, just keep going, we will suppport you until we can. Cheers
You two need a Podcast. I love both Interviews, I "watched" or more heard both Interviews in Home-Office and it was so intresting
I dig the monthly podcast idea! Talking music and just the YT/Twitch stuff, yes to all!
Music is life for me and it's nice hearing other people who feel it the same way talk about the whole experience. Being able to interact with the idols you grow to love and lookup to is a really cool thing even with any amount of work put in. You're going to look at new music to you anyway so sharing it with others is what is pushing me
Hey watched all of both parts - enjoyed it and found some subjects insightful - thanks to both of you!
To your genre breaking mash up thoughts around 1:03:30 - I always felt like Billie Eilish would fit in some modern / industrial metal perfectly. Although the best possible mashup would have been Michael Jackson as a Glam Metal/stadium rock vocalist. Seriously, just listen to his evil rasp and emotion in for instance 'Leave me alone' or the kind of... gospel breakdown in 'Keep the Faith' or 'They don't really care about us'. He would have ruled the scene for 101%. 🤩🤣
Thx for that podcast a like long talks, I'd watch more of them for sure. :)
Reaction channels have become one of my favorite types of videos lately. When a new song I love drops I'm usually looking up reactions first thing, usually hoping you, Nik or Alex have done one, lmao. I've also like you said, have discovered so many amazing bands from reaction videos.
Amazing part 2, loved listening to you guys go so in depth about something you're so passionate about.
Tank i must disagree about you saying knowone will watch this for over an hour. This was by far the best video/interview ive seen on utube. I couldn't stop watching and loved hearing you guys talk about how and why you are doing this and why you have to becareful on certain things.
I first heard of Nik doing rock star cover with Andy and loved it. I loved hearing him talk about you need to know your worth. Great job on this video.
Keep up the great work and you have a fan for life.
Would you be able to do a episode about pros and cons on bands being signed or unsigned. Also when you get signed and make a album and tour does the rocord company give you a loan to support the tour then you pay it back.
Ive watched both of these videos, and i would love to see/hear more of these!
Personally, the insight into how the live concert work etc. is one of the really cool thing this channel brings. The "tank facts" is also one of my favorite things as well.
I loved this!! Such genuine energy between you and nik!! Super informative too! Amazing interview
Great talk of you two.
To the topic of why metalheads are not too happy when their favourite band gets too much exposure:
I think a lot of it is the fear that if they get too "big" they might get influenced by the (newer) public oppinion or labels to make their music more mainstream instread of the niche they were in before. And people want what they know even if it might get stale
As someone who loves history and metal and tech, don't stop talking about it
This was a nice interview Tank!
Don't forget to watch, share and trashtalk on Niks content
NO WAY! Semmy's voice!!!
I could have listened to you guys converse for many more hours. Two wasnt enough.
Because it was so casual it was a breeze to listen to both parts. I could easily listen to part III and IV. So bring on the update in half a year or something 🙂
FYI Tank, the link you put in part 1 already takes you here and you can watch it. I'm gonna go and wait for actual release tho :)
Oh I´ve been waiting for this one! Thank you so much.
1:04:20 'even ed sheeran i could imagine with a guitar'
You guys actually called this out this is incredible im dying 😂😂😂😭😭😭
AYYYYYYYY, SEMMY! :D Nice surprise to hear while listening the awesome interview!
finally watching this and with being greeted by Semmy it is already off to a good start :D
Great channel love the honesty as an ex metal roadie can't get enough
This was super informative and entertaining video series, thanks both for this great interview Nik and Tank.
was here tryn to type how much you two have brought new music to my table... but his just goes out to you. "I love you guyse"
Amazing conversation. great to listen to. If you do a regular one this would be really cool.
Late to the party, I just finished watching both parts. Great conversation chaps. Nice being able to take a look at some things and thoughts going on when the camera goes off.
When you said you had twitch streams showing guitar tech work, I had no idea. I've seen a vid here on YT where you were video taping on the road with the country singer... I guess I should check out your twitch because that sounds super interesting. Or maybe repost the vod on my YT? Big Brain singer does that too. Full disclosure, I usually don't check twitch because you know it'll end up a multi hour session. I only watch Devin Townsend on twitch, I can hear him talk for hours!
That reminds me, nice hearing you love different types of music. I had a hunch, since you tech for a country singer. If you hated that it would be hard staying motivated on the road. Actually, I take that back, I should have realized that just from watching at the wall behind you. Why you'd want to tech for Devy now also makes sense. Even if there's technical difficulties, he'd find a way to entertain the audience and not slash out to the crew. Also, he could play face melting metal one day, new age the next (by a thread)
Anyway, I'm rambling! Great "podcast" as you called it in part 1! Thanks to Nik as well, I hopped over to his channel to subscribe. I did watch him but usually my husband and I watch him on the tv on his account, so now I used my 2 accounts to sub too. Yay!
(Edit: fixed some phone auto correct mutilations)
On gatekeeping in metal: I don't know if I just happen to get very lucky or if this is really more of a North America problem, but literally every metalhead I know (I'm Austrian) listens to other music genres as well. The biggest overlap I see, ironically, is with german Schlager for some reason lol. But generally classic pop from the 90ies and 2000s is always a banger, I've seen dudes built like trucks with braids down to their butts rock out to Spice Girls on more than one occasion. What I notice much more is a certain dismissing of other metal subgenres, and there's often quite a bit of "hate" towards bands (and fans of bands) that are very popular, like Rammstein, Nightwish etc. Or dismissing of certain bands as being "for kids" or "for old people that don't understand current metal". Again, might just be my crowd that's like that.
Long jevity is not worrying why videos maybe don't get as many views or subs drop. It's being honest and true to you without concern and it will bounce back and higher from what I've noticed
Very good convo! Tank, it would be cool if you went on Nik's twitch at some time! Keep up the good work!
Tank, I love your non-reactor content a ton. That video where you cleaned the guitar was super interesting, and would love to see you make a documentary about being a roadie with a band for a tour for example. Record things during a longer period of time, and then pick the most interesting of them. Because even when things repeat, something is always different.
The plural of anecdote is not necessarily data, however - broadly, because of reactors/reaction channels (including but not just you Tank :) ), I have purchased ~ 20 albums? Tickets to 10-ish shows. And then probably ~ a dozen bits of merch. And I have added soooooo many bands and songs on Spotify, Bandcamp, and TH-cam. Which I realize is not nearly as significant as an actual purchase, but hopefully is contributing towards the wellbeing of the artist as well as their visibility on the platforms.
Great content, Tech. Would love to see more of these with someone like 2SICH
Hey man great podcast !! I love when TH-camrs get together and just talk because there’s soo many behind the scene things I wouldn’t know about. Would love to see you talk to Finn mckenty of the punk rock mba I think you guys would have a great conversation
interesting to listen to you both to gain some insight
Brilliant again. It's actually reaction channels that have got me back into heavy music. Oceans ate alaska Metamorph on nik's channel started it and now apparently I like death core 😂
I would love to see Andrea Bocelli a duo with Will Ramos ! Like an epic, dark and symphonic song!!hahaha
Tank, many people watch podcast channels on TH-cam and they go on for 2 or more hours. As long as your content is entertaining or educational or providing something there's always going to be a reason for someone to sit there for hours on end watching it and it was a very amazing interview. I learned so much about Nik and about TH-cam and some stuff in the music industry if you ever want to do another interview again with anyone it be amazing to see one again but don't try and limit yourself to how long it can be for I've seen podcasts that just turn into full on rants for over an hour long and well it's entertained me enough to watch lol.
I loved the opening. Who did the voice? I am totally on board with any future Tank/Nik collaborative efforts be it podcast, chill convo, or maybe even music. Good stuff.
Oh, I should have known you would have that info in the credits. And even though I have been aware of and watched the occasional Nik video for a while, I finally subscribed and watched Slavic Metal for the first time.
I love the idea of more metal/other genre mashups! I loved the Jayz and Linkin Park material. You mentioned Tech9, I absolutely love Tech. He incorporates some metalish things in his music. He did a colab with Cory from Slipknot. He's a big Slipknot fan. That's one of the things I love about Jinjer. They incorporate so many different genres and techniques from other genres in their music to make it their own and show who influenced them. I think either Tati or the band as a whole sited Cypress Hill as an influence. That's sick!! Love this "podcast"! Listening to you two just kind of shoot the shit is fucking great content man.
It's funny when you started talking about reactions going corporate level TV and shit. In Finland there used to be a TV show that had a panel of 6 famous people doing a review of new music after watching it for the first time on the show and it was really fun to watch too, but it was cancelled even tho it did do good numbers, but I guess they were way ahead of their time with that show.
Heartbroken that Lorna Shore will most likely not be on the BMTH + ADTR Tour that got postponed to 2023. Still glad that I was introduced to them by you guys, thank you for that, for all your work and passion you are putting into your videos. Keep going dudes 🤘🏼
Has there been any kind of announcement as to why they are not on the tour 2023? I‘m so sad atm bc of this :/
@@flo1100 nothing official as far as I know... Guessing they'll be planning their own tour in 2023
@ 9:56
Speaking of "bringing new life" to bands' older music...
how about helping the gang known as Whispered with their songs "strike!" or "Jikininki"?? Amazing finnish metal band playing Kabuki themed metal. Theyre a very small band with a ton of talent that honestly just need exposure.
Lol, Tank, I think I was one of those first 50 subs.
🙌🙌🙌
He wants more diverse reaction requests? Hold my beer.
OK, so that's but a small selection but probably enough for now.
Link to a playlist with all the songs below (selected so there's equipment to see when possible)
The two non-german ones first:
- "Die Antwoord" - 'I fink u freeky' - electro hip hop mashup from south afrika
- "Stimmhorn" - 'Trioahattalaha' - iaginary folk from switzerland
- "Ton Steine Scherben" - 'Der Traum ist aus' - 70-rock
- "Kraftklub" - 'Ich will nicht nach Berlin' - indie-rock with a bit of hip hop
- "Mutabor" - 'Laster' - ska-punk
- "Peter Fox" - 'Haus am See' - dancehall (one of the singers of "Seeed")
- "Max Raabe ft. Sammy Deluxe" - 'Der perfekte Moment' - Comedian Harmonists style featuring hip hop
- "Kraftwerk" - 'Autobahn' - absolute pioneers of electronic music
- "The Fat Rat" - 'Unity' - glitch-hop
- "K.I.Z. ft. Henning May" - 'Hurrah die Welt geht unter' - hip hop
- "Alligatoah" - 'Amnesie' - hip hop
- "Sido" - 'schlechtes Vorbild' - hip hop
If you need more suggestions (or translations for the german songs) don't hesitate to ask.
Playlist with the songs:
th-cam.com/play/PL6PO6ji_HC5sS4mS9mfRtnmkEjyT1hpt5.html
Haha Tank, Jay-Z and Linkin Park is going kinda old school, which is really odd because I never really pictured me being old school in that sense. Numb/Encore is really great, that album was good too, and really Linkin Park has always had that sorta sound/influence because of Mike Shinoda being more on the rap side of things, another reason why I believe that mash-up worked so well. Chester being as great of a vocalist as he was really added a lot to it as well, especially for a breakthrough into liking harsher vocals.
@54:00 you could lump Seven Spires in this part of the conversation too 😂🤘🏻
I am confused. Is that the same voice at the beginning of the video that did the intros and outros for Nightwish's Making of a new album? Otherwise great interview. Love you both.
No. Hahaha
Unfortunately not, though I am available… Allegedly 😃
@@semmyconcious Weird. The voices sound so damn similar :)
Maybe yall could do some cover collabs together since you play bass
This is good content, more of this and the guest gituar thing sounded amazing. The technical issues just adds more weight to #prostreamer ;)
@TankTheTech I 1000% agree on the old man tiktok thing. I give ohrion reacts shit all the time for tiktok and he agrees but he says the same thing that so many new subs came from his tiktok short vids!
about the guitar tech roadie stuff, will u also be recording parts of that cause that would really be cool to see.
Thumbs up for your statement that one should also look beyond the musical horizon, and thus fitting to your statement that as a metal fan one should not only listen to or do metal: There is a rap group from Germany (Beginner) who once coined the phrase in their Song "Fäule": "Whoever does hip-hop but only listens to hip-hop is engaging in incest." (in the original, of course, it was in German: "Wer Hip-Hop macht aber nur Hip-Hop hört, betreibt Inzest."- th-cam.com/video/E4O1R-FUQv0/w-d-xo.html). This applies analogously to all styles of music. Because that's the only way to actually develop and discover new things.
Love your chanel so much. Your reactions and interviews are so relaxed and real. I found some new bands for my playlist, I wouldn't listen to.
So I wonder if you would like to react to the new Muse song (Won't stand down). Please.
I did. I'll have it up on Tuesday, but it'll most likely get blocked, so if you wanna see it, Tuesday is the day. Haha
33:50 "people don't watch 2 hour interviews" Bruh, gimme more :)
speaking of other genres, gotta check out Scarlxrd. Trap Metal.
When is the next podcast =D It would be awesome if you got Rikard from Eleine on a podcast it would be hillarious
That might be awesome.
I'm commenting mid-watch, but would love to hear how playing other bands' music live on Twitch works, do you need whitelisting or permissions beforehand or do you just not save the VOD? It would get muted for the most part, right? And you'd always be risking a strike there as well. They've been working for a bit on taking down live streams cause due to playing copyrighted stuff.
I think the dumbasses who got banned for a few hours/days recently for watching tv shows on Twitch without permission got reported and not automatically taken down though. They were big enough to have been watched by Twitch staff though too, so that might've been it and not even had to have been reported for it.
With music, most of the time it will mute the audio in the vods to protect the streamers. Whenever I'm doing music, I also turn clipping off just to play it safe. Beyond that? Still not sure exactly how Twitch upholds strikes and copyright claims.
Id see Nik in a choire as the BAAAAASEEEE
Soooo we’re finally gonna get some Brand of Sacrifice videos?! 🤣🤣
If we get something new, yeah. I've listened to their new album like 30 times now. Haha
Tank, please write a book. Nik, please narrate it.
Speaking of fuck ups in videos lol..
I'd listen to a weekly/monthly podcast with the two of you though
Well, Nik has a face for radio. ;-)
I really like your tech talk but i understand nearly nothing from it because i'm musical like a brick. But besides your tech talks your share of experiences as roadie makes your content so special. Most people likes to here 'war stories' from other persons there respect and had makes other experience then there self. But the most interesting for me are your "interview's" - they give a good in sighed i into world i don't no. Like all parts of the music industry.
So keep doing the stuff you like but be sure you do not overwork yourself.
I wonder if reaction channels aren't more like modern-day specialty magazines, rather than the radio?
What do you think about artists like Matt from Trivium and how he uses Twitch to keep his audience engaged? Do you think more artists will do the same?
I think what he and some other artists are doing on Twitch is the evolution of being a musical artist. Hans from Feuerschwanz told me in our interview that back in the day, all you had to worry about was being in a band and playing music. But nowadays with technology and how on demand everything is, you have to be a musician, a streamer, a photo editor, a video editor, and everything in between, and I totally see that. People have more contact with bands now more than any time in history, and I think what Matt is doing is a necessity for a lot of artists.
@@TankTheTech Great answer.
Matt is a good example, since he is a "gamer" by heart and therefor had an interest beforehand. Other bands like Eskimo just naturally fall into bands that have both a state of mind, personality and humor that makes them succeed on the internet. I do feel bad for those bands that are trying to create a name for themselves without those tools. It will require a lot more raw talent, practice and patience to be able to reach the same hights as those more tech-savy bands. Or you need to get the right kind of fans, that spread the word or are popular in their own right. Someone in Corridor Crew recently had an Amarathe t-shirt in one of their VFX artists react. That might help Amaranthe spread their music even more.
Thanks for your insight!
Just checking... did you imply that you may be on tour WHILE doing videos? Will this turn into roadie tour v-logs? Please say yes.
Yes. 😂
@@TankTheTech Hell. Yes.
You got a point on how metal scene deliberately decided to stay underground, as opposed to grasp again the mainstream. I don’t know, maybe we made up our world as a way to stay aside of trends, we are protecting our heritage, because it was a countersocial movement in the 70s, then brought under the glam lights, so our soul was taken. I personally feel safe in my metal bubble, and I don’t expect Beyonce sharing scenario with Sabaton.
Hahahahaha. I do know exactly what you mean, but I wouldn't be opposed to opening the metal community up a bit for more people to access it.
@@TankTheTech Well, maybe I didn't manage to explain better, but bottomline is the Metal scene in Europe was hit hard and entered defensive mode in the early 90s, protecting the scene, and becoming a subculture. We recovered, but the not-mainstream mantra remains. I (out)lived the metal thing in the 80s 90s, and the mainstream made no favors to the heavy metal. I'm glad that slowly steady the genre is blending into other styles, even pop and synth music, but I understand why we are still reluctant to see mainstream sucess...
Reactions are for fans by the fans so it's win for the labels no money wasted from them ....... Wow they back azzwards
Why don't you try and get Alex Hefner on your "Podcast", would be fun I think.
Was honestly thinking about it.
F… I really wanted to like this but it’s on 666! 🤘🏻
You're like the third person that's refused to like it because it was at 666. Fuck yeah. 😂
Based on tanks comments, he must have a forest going on down there! O my!
Hahahahahahahaha
22:50 nik has decided to stop working for exposure
Edit: question for tank and nik. Are you worried at all about the state of DMCA on twitch? Big streamers flirting with the line and people have been striked and banned for watching youtube vids on twitch.
I've heard a lot about people that have had issues with Twitch as far as reacting to music and videos and stuff. Personally, I haven't had an issue yet, so I don't really have an opinion on it.
You need a counter for how many times you say "like".
Subliminal messaging to get people to click like.
Take a back seat boys. No1 is copying your shit because no1 knows who you are.